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Vodafone 2.2 update advice

Hi all
I have rooted my phone to put a custom rom on using the 1 click method.
I have just put the stock vodafone 1.19 rom back in in prep for hopefully getting the 2.2 update. However i am thinking vodafone will take there usual slow assed time in getting it to us so i would want to put the WWE version on my unbranded Vodafone handset.
Now what i am wondering is how can i install a WWE version when the last time i tried i got a "this is not the correct update for your phone" or similar msg in the install.
is it something to do with this goldcard thing i have seen about here?
thanks all

Also tryed your method and got the same error. Can't seem to find anything on it so for the moment ill stick to 2.1 then update when a modded rom comes out.
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Your phone could need unlocking. However first try a goldcard to flash from vodaphone Rom to stock.
Bring on 2.2
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lennshow66 is right, You need a "gold card" to flash a stock rom, Rooted or not!
Edit: Good guide HERE if you don't know how!

this is interesting...

rob81h said:
lennshow66 is right, You need a "gold card" to flash a stock rom, Rooted or not!
Edit: Good guide HERE if you don't know how!
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actually unrevoked method roots without the need of a goldcard.

Yes but to flash a HTC RUU rom you need a goldcard in your phone because the ruu rom uses it's own bootloader/recovery, If you don't have a goldcard in your phone an official rom will always throw up a ID Error!
Edit: On branded phones!

thanks all thats exactly what i needed to know

Thanks all guys its worked well, goldcard created via the excellent guide and then i installed the stock WWE install. so hopefully as my phone is a vodafone that was auto unlocked and now i have a goldcard i might get the update this weekend

No problems on Froyo OTA with debranded Orange France

Hi all,
Since the last OTA created plenty of problems to debranded Orange owners, I just wanted to let everybody know that I did install the OTA and did not find any problem so far.... everything went smoothly in updating OTA from the latest RUU update. No need for gold cards or complicated procedures
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Can I ask which method did you use to originally debrand your phone? Which rome did you flash to?

The 405 RUU that had been posted around may on these forums... see here for a full list:
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
Very easy, all you need is to make a gold card. Things get slightly more messy if you are not a Windows user.
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JaykaySLO said:
Can I ask which method did you use to originally debrand your phone? Which rome did you flash to?
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for my own device :
It was Orange France 1.22 ROM;
I rooted my device with UnrEVOked;
Then I use the downgrade method that uses fake ROM version reporting to RUU;
Installed full Europe_1.15 HTC ROM;
And install all OTA updates, as when asked.
Note : I alway have my gold card in it, and I never got any trouble.

Thanks. I dont want to root my phone just debrand it to receive OTA`s directly from HTc and not wait for carrier specific.
Question: is it safer to flash it to 1.15 and then do OTA to 1.21 and Froyo or flash directly with 1.21?

Directly 1.21, if I did not screw up version numbers it was the jump from 1.15 to 1.21 that created the problem when done in OTA (WiFi module could not be loaded correctly)
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ql. did you have to have your goldcard in while doing the FROYO update?

Yes
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[Q] Send back branded Desire which was bought as unbranded or get 40 Euro compensatio

Hi everyone,
as can be seen in the title I got a branded Desire although i bought it as unbranded.
Long story short: I am now undecided what to do and it depends on the following:
So after hours of reading I am still not sure if it is possible and safe to completely remove the branding and have a permanently unbranded desire with official european rom and radio with which I can receive further updates from google/htc OTA at no risk AS IF I HAD BOUGHT AN UNBRANDED ONE. (I am not interested in custom roms etc since I have that with an earlier htc winmo device and ended up with backupping, restoring, flashing every second day and it costs me a lot of time)
The warranty is not so much an issue. But as far as I know I can completely revert the debranding process through nandroid... (?)
I would really appreciate any answers to wether it is possible to turn my desire into a "official/original" unbranded one.
Thx
touchhdizzel

Yes. Root & apply a stock (rooted) ROM. Problem solved. But if you accept any OTA update, you lose root.

You don't have to root but then you'll not be able to go back unless you can find the ROM that's on your device. Just make a goldcard and flash with a WWE or Europe ROM.

Thx for the answers.
A few more questions came up for both methods though.
in general:
where can i find a pure stock rom? in the wiki there is only a link to a 1.15 one.
for johnstevedoe's method:
loosing root is no problem since i dont need it. as i said i want to use it like a stock one and be able to recieve updates without having to wipe the phone.
i cant remember where but i read that ppl who had branded desires (i think orange) and used the ota update got further problems with their wifi etc. so it seems that there is still provider specific software (or hardware??) in the phone and it is therefore not behaving like a unbranded one. i guess if i dont encounter problems with the 2.2 update i might get some with future updates.
for steve228uk method:
do ihave to leave the gold card in the phone?
do i have to put it in for the ota updates?
and lastly, is there any resource for the original shipped branded roms? the xda wiki only links to one unbranded stock rom.
Thx for ur help
Dizzel

There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.

steve228uk said:
There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
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so that means that it is not possible to fully debrand with this method in some cases?
do you know anything about the method using unrevoked? is this capable of turning the desire into a unbranded one since it replaces the whole rom and parts of the boot etc. how can there still occur problems with ota when all branded software was replaced?
cheers

Flashing Stock Froyo Rom

Hi -
I'm wanting to install a generic stock froyo rom on my phone to replace my Orange branded rom (mainly to rid it of bloatware). I'm wondering if it matters what radio version I use? I found the following two:
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.1_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121684.exe
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe
Which one would I install? Also - would I lose root access if I restore a stock rom?
Thanks.

I would use RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe since it seems to be the newer of the two.

If you're going to just bebrand your phone don't use either of them as they're OLD...use either 2.10.405.2 or 2.29.405.2. Those 2 RUUs you posted up are the ORIGINAL 2.1 RUUs
And yes you will lose root as flashing an RUU restores the phone to stock. Make sure you have your gold card in the phone as flashing anything other than an Orange RUU without it will fail

Why would I need a goldcard if I'm flashing a stock rom? Do I need a goldcard to flash custom roms? This rom doesn't come with radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
Why do I have t install radio separately? Can I not just keep the existing radios on there.
This is quite confusing.

It all depends on what ROM your phone originally came with. If you have always been unbranded (as in always been on an x.xx.405.x ROM version) then you don't need a gold card to flash a ROM of the same version. A gold card is needed if you have a branded phone and want to flash a different ROM version, e.g. you are on T-Mobile and want to flash a stock WWE ROM
Custom ROMs don't need a gold card as it's all done via the custom recovery that is flashed when you root using unrEVOked. Custom ROMs tend not to have a radio included so you flash them yourself. Stock RUUs are an 'all-in-one' package and flash everything
In your case, you are on Orange so if you wanna flash any RUU you will need a gold card as there isn't an Orange RUU available. If you want a stock unbranded ROM then download the one in my signature (click it as it's a link to the RUU)

stats101 said:
Hi -
I'm wanting to install a generic stock froyo rom on my phone to replace my Orange branded rom (mainly to rid it of bloatware). I'm wondering if it matters what radio version I use? I found the following two:
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.1_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121684.exe
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe
Which one would I install? Also - would I lose root access if I restore a stock rom?
Thanks.
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Yup..Very, very old.. Will surely brick your phone if SLCD!

EddyOS said:
It all depends on what ROM your phone originally came with. If you have always been unbranded (as in always been on an x.xx.405.x ROM version) then you don't need a gold card to flash a ROM of the same version. A gold card is needed if you have a branded phone and want to flash a different ROM version, e.g. you are on T-Mobile and want to flash a stock WWE ROM
Custom ROMs don't need a gold card as it's all done via the custom recovery that is flashed when you root using unrEVOked. Custom ROMs tend not to have a radio included so you flash them yourself. Stock RUUs are an 'all-in-one' package and flash everything
In your case, you are on Orange so if you wanna flash any RUU you will need a gold card as there isn't an Orange RUU available. If you want a stock unbranded ROM then download the one in my signature (click it as it's a link to the RUU)
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I rooted using unrevoked - so already have the custom recovery installed. Surely I can just use that to flash the stock rom? I know there is a process where you 'debrand' the phone, which requires a gold card, but didn't realise it needed a gold card when flashing through root.

stats101 said:
I rooted using unrevoked - so already have the custom recovery installed. Surely I can just use that to flash the stock rom? I know there is a process where you 'debrand' the phone, which requires a gold card, but didn't realise it needed a gold card when flashing through root.
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If you want to flash a rooted Stock-based (but not actually stock) ROM, sure, you can use recovery.. But if what you want is to take it for warranty, you would need to remove the custom recovery flashed during the rooting process. So you need an RUU, or a PB*.zip file based on the RUU (latter can be flashed without a pc). A goldcard is needed for any change of RUUs-branded->unbranded and viceversa..

droidzone said:
If you want to flash a rooted Stock-based (but not actually stock) ROM, sure, you can use recovery.. But if what you want is to take it for warranty, you would need to remove the custom recovery flashed during the rooting process. So you need an RUU, or a PB*.zip file based on the RUU (latter can be flashed without a pc). A goldcard is needed for any change of RUUs-branded->unbranded and viceversa..
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So based on what you're saying, if I installed something like this (rooted stock):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
I wouldn't need a gold card? basically I don't want to install a custom rom - I just want to install a clean froyo rom without the orange bloatware. It doesn't matter to me whether it is rooted ot not rooted (which if it is the case, I prob will root again anyway).
So the quickest way from what I can gather for me to achieve that is to flash a rooted froyo rom? do i need to update the radio aswell, or can i keep my current radio version?

That should do, what radio are you on at the mo?

EddyOS said:
That should do, what radio are you on at the mo?
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I think it's 5.10.05.30

stats101 said:
So based on what you're saying, if I installed something like this (rooted stock):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
I wouldn't need a gold card? basically I don't want to install a custom rom - I just want to install a clean froyo rom without the orange bloatware. It doesn't matter to me whether it is rooted ot not rooted (which if it is the case, I prob will root again anyway).
So the quickest way from what I can gather for me to achieve that is to flash a rooted froyo rom? do i need to update the radio aswell, or can i keep my current radio version?
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Hmm..What you want is to get rid of the Orange bloatware.. You don't actually care about having root access..
You can:
[A] Flash a new generic (WWE-Worldwide English) RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility), a program designed by HTC to upgrade ROMs. Generic RUU gives you everything that HTC designed to be on the phone with no crap from Orange. This does not give you root access. You basically get an unbranded phone like the ones released by HTC elsewhere in the world. This does need goldcard right now, since you're debranding the phone.
[B] Root the phone and install a custom stock ROM like the one you posted the link too. You can install whichever ROM you like, and since rooting process gives you a recovery ROM, you can change ROMs any time you want just by adding a file to your sdcard and rebooting the phone and choosing an option. This option too removes bloatware. For rooting process, you dont need a goldcard.
Later
But, if you later want to take the phone back for warranty purpose at any time (after using method B), at that point you might (most likely) or might not (depending on the method used) need the goldcard to flash an RUU since Orange RUUs are not available right now (though there is a method posted on XDA which helps unroot Orange phones). If Orange RUUs become available at a later date, then you may not need a goldcard.
Believe me, creating a goldcard is the least of your worries. It's nearly effortless (not at all something major like rooting or unrooting) and gives you freedom from worry, since it means you can in 98% cases, recover from a softbrick if something goes wrong. Even if you dont create a goldcard, download this goldcard tool, connect your phone and choose the first button (Get CID) after connecting your goldcard. Once the CID is read, you should store it in a text file. You can then complete the rest of the steps later. But this is not recommended since goldcard creation does not work for all memory card types and makes.

droidzone said:
Hmm..What you want is to get rid of the Orange bloatware.. You don't actually care about having root access..
You can:
[A] Flash a new generic (WWE-Worldwide English) RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility), a program designed by HTC to upgrade ROMs. Generic RUU gives you everything that HTC designed to be on the phone with no crap from Orange. This does not give you root access. You basically get an unbranded phone like the ones released by HTC elsewhere in the world. This does need goldcard right now, since you're debranding the phone.
[B] Root the phone and install a custom stock ROM like the one you posted the link too. You can install whichever ROM you like, and since rooting process gives you a recovery ROM, you can change ROMs any time you want just by adding a file to your sdcard and rebooting the phone and choosing an option. This option too removes bloatware. For rooting process, you dont need a goldcard.
Later
But, if you later want to take the phone back for warranty purpose at any time (after using method B), at that point you might (most likely) or might not (depending on the method used) need the goldcard to flash an RUU since Orange RUUs are not available right now (though there is a method posted on XDA which helps unroot Orange phones). If Orange RUUs become available at a later date, then you may not need a goldcard.
Believe me, creating a goldcard is the least of your worries. It's nearly effortless (not at all something major like rooting or unrooting) and gives you freedom from worry, since it means you can in 98% cases, recover from a softbrick if something goes wrong. Even if you dont create a goldcard, download this goldcard tool, connect your phone and choose the first button (Get CID) after connecting your goldcard. Once the CID is read, you should store it in a text file. You can then complete the rest of the steps later. But this is not recommended since goldcard creation does not work for all memory card types and makes.
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Many thanks for clearing that up. All makes sense now. Think I already have a Gold Card from a previous unenergetic debranding attempt. Will hunt that out and keep in a safe place.

Best thing is to make your day to day card your gold card as you can just leave it in the phone and forget about it. Updates will also install correctly as you'd need the gold card to do an OTA update

Sorry to butt in
droidzone said:
Hmm..What you want is to get rid of the Orange bloatware.. You don't actually care about having root access..
You can:
[A] Flash a new generic (WWE-Worldwide English) RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility), a program designed by HTC to upgrade ROMs. Generic RUU gives you everything that HTC designed to be on the phone with no crap from Orange. This does not give you root access. You basically get an unbranded phone like the ones released by HTC elsewhere in the world. This does need goldcard right now, since you're debranding the phone.
I am very new to android but am in exactlty the same position. I just want to get rid of all the orange crap.
I understand option A is probably my best option but have read elsewhere that this will sim lock my phone and I will then need to unlock it is this true.
Thanks for your help.
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cannot find orange UK branded froyo rom?

the phone is unlocked but branded so i just wanted to unbrand it. i was looking for stock orange rom incase if anything goes wrong i can just restore it but sadly i couldnt find it anywhere.
Baseband
32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30
Build
2.17.61.2 CL245629 release keys.
software verison 2.17.61.2
also if i root and get a gold card etc will i be able to just install it using the unbranded .exe file? because in one of the sticky posts i read that it wont work if you have installed 2.2 update OTA and thats how i updated mine to 2.2??
many thanks

The Orange rom has never been leaked.
For you to debrand, you could just create a goldcard and use the latest WWE RUU.
unfortunately, there is no way to get back to Orange stock unrooted.
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mikep99 said:
The Orange rom has never been leaked.
For you to debrand, you could just create a goldcard and use the latest WWE RUU.
unfortunately, there is no way to get back to Orange stock unrooted.
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I agree. Unfortunately, Orange doesnt even include their recovery ROM when you buy their phone. It's the French, so no surprise....
Agree with the above poster, although I would root, and use custom.

oh ook, thats fine, i will follow the guide and install the custom rom
thanks alot

does the memory card have to be the one which came with desire, because my original one stopped working so i have a 1gb one...

Nope, just use your day to day card. Should be fine.
Make sure you make your goldcard before anything else, it'll make life easier if you encounter any problems down the line.
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