Hi -
I'm wanting to install a generic stock froyo rom on my phone to replace my Orange branded rom (mainly to rid it of bloatware). I'm wondering if it matters what radio version I use? I found the following two:
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.1_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121684.exe
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe
Which one would I install? Also - would I lose root access if I restore a stock rom?
Thanks.
I would use RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe since it seems to be the newer of the two.
If you're going to just bebrand your phone don't use either of them as they're OLD...use either 2.10.405.2 or 2.29.405.2. Those 2 RUUs you posted up are the ORIGINAL 2.1 RUUs
And yes you will lose root as flashing an RUU restores the phone to stock. Make sure you have your gold card in the phone as flashing anything other than an Orange RUU without it will fail
Why would I need a goldcard if I'm flashing a stock rom? Do I need a goldcard to flash custom roms? This rom doesn't come with radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
Why do I have t install radio separately? Can I not just keep the existing radios on there.
This is quite confusing.
It all depends on what ROM your phone originally came with. If you have always been unbranded (as in always been on an x.xx.405.x ROM version) then you don't need a gold card to flash a ROM of the same version. A gold card is needed if you have a branded phone and want to flash a different ROM version, e.g. you are on T-Mobile and want to flash a stock WWE ROM
Custom ROMs don't need a gold card as it's all done via the custom recovery that is flashed when you root using unrEVOked. Custom ROMs tend not to have a radio included so you flash them yourself. Stock RUUs are an 'all-in-one' package and flash everything
In your case, you are on Orange so if you wanna flash any RUU you will need a gold card as there isn't an Orange RUU available. If you want a stock unbranded ROM then download the one in my signature (click it as it's a link to the RUU)
stats101 said:
Hi -
I'm wanting to install a generic stock froyo rom on my phone to replace my Orange branded rom (mainly to rid it of bloatware). I'm wondering if it matters what radio version I use? I found the following two:
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.1_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121684.exe
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe
Which one would I install? Also - would I lose root access if I restore a stock rom?
Thanks.
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Yup..Very, very old.. Will surely brick your phone if SLCD!
EddyOS said:
It all depends on what ROM your phone originally came with. If you have always been unbranded (as in always been on an x.xx.405.x ROM version) then you don't need a gold card to flash a ROM of the same version. A gold card is needed if you have a branded phone and want to flash a different ROM version, e.g. you are on T-Mobile and want to flash a stock WWE ROM
Custom ROMs don't need a gold card as it's all done via the custom recovery that is flashed when you root using unrEVOked. Custom ROMs tend not to have a radio included so you flash them yourself. Stock RUUs are an 'all-in-one' package and flash everything
In your case, you are on Orange so if you wanna flash any RUU you will need a gold card as there isn't an Orange RUU available. If you want a stock unbranded ROM then download the one in my signature (click it as it's a link to the RUU)
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I rooted using unrevoked - so already have the custom recovery installed. Surely I can just use that to flash the stock rom? I know there is a process where you 'debrand' the phone, which requires a gold card, but didn't realise it needed a gold card when flashing through root.
stats101 said:
I rooted using unrevoked - so already have the custom recovery installed. Surely I can just use that to flash the stock rom? I know there is a process where you 'debrand' the phone, which requires a gold card, but didn't realise it needed a gold card when flashing through root.
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If you want to flash a rooted Stock-based (but not actually stock) ROM, sure, you can use recovery.. But if what you want is to take it for warranty, you would need to remove the custom recovery flashed during the rooting process. So you need an RUU, or a PB*.zip file based on the RUU (latter can be flashed without a pc). A goldcard is needed for any change of RUUs-branded->unbranded and viceversa..
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If you want to flash a rooted Stock-based (but not actually stock) ROM, sure, you can use recovery.. But if what you want is to take it for warranty, you would need to remove the custom recovery flashed during the rooting process. So you need an RUU, or a PB*.zip file based on the RUU (latter can be flashed without a pc). A goldcard is needed for any change of RUUs-branded->unbranded and viceversa..
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So based on what you're saying, if I installed something like this (rooted stock):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
I wouldn't need a gold card? basically I don't want to install a custom rom - I just want to install a clean froyo rom without the orange bloatware. It doesn't matter to me whether it is rooted ot not rooted (which if it is the case, I prob will root again anyway).
So the quickest way from what I can gather for me to achieve that is to flash a rooted froyo rom? do i need to update the radio aswell, or can i keep my current radio version?
That should do, what radio are you on at the mo?
EddyOS said:
That should do, what radio are you on at the mo?
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I think it's 5.10.05.30
stats101 said:
So based on what you're saying, if I installed something like this (rooted stock):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
I wouldn't need a gold card? basically I don't want to install a custom rom - I just want to install a clean froyo rom without the orange bloatware. It doesn't matter to me whether it is rooted ot not rooted (which if it is the case, I prob will root again anyway).
So the quickest way from what I can gather for me to achieve that is to flash a rooted froyo rom? do i need to update the radio aswell, or can i keep my current radio version?
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Hmm..What you want is to get rid of the Orange bloatware.. You don't actually care about having root access..
You can:
[A] Flash a new generic (WWE-Worldwide English) RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility), a program designed by HTC to upgrade ROMs. Generic RUU gives you everything that HTC designed to be on the phone with no crap from Orange. This does not give you root access. You basically get an unbranded phone like the ones released by HTC elsewhere in the world. This does need goldcard right now, since you're debranding the phone.
[B] Root the phone and install a custom stock ROM like the one you posted the link too. You can install whichever ROM you like, and since rooting process gives you a recovery ROM, you can change ROMs any time you want just by adding a file to your sdcard and rebooting the phone and choosing an option. This option too removes bloatware. For rooting process, you dont need a goldcard.
Later
But, if you later want to take the phone back for warranty purpose at any time (after using method B), at that point you might (most likely) or might not (depending on the method used) need the goldcard to flash an RUU since Orange RUUs are not available right now (though there is a method posted on XDA which helps unroot Orange phones). If Orange RUUs become available at a later date, then you may not need a goldcard.
Believe me, creating a goldcard is the least of your worries. It's nearly effortless (not at all something major like rooting or unrooting) and gives you freedom from worry, since it means you can in 98% cases, recover from a softbrick if something goes wrong. Even if you dont create a goldcard, download this goldcard tool, connect your phone and choose the first button (Get CID) after connecting your goldcard. Once the CID is read, you should store it in a text file. You can then complete the rest of the steps later. But this is not recommended since goldcard creation does not work for all memory card types and makes.
droidzone said:
Hmm..What you want is to get rid of the Orange bloatware.. You don't actually care about having root access..
You can:
[A] Flash a new generic (WWE-Worldwide English) RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility), a program designed by HTC to upgrade ROMs. Generic RUU gives you everything that HTC designed to be on the phone with no crap from Orange. This does not give you root access. You basically get an unbranded phone like the ones released by HTC elsewhere in the world. This does need goldcard right now, since you're debranding the phone.
[B] Root the phone and install a custom stock ROM like the one you posted the link too. You can install whichever ROM you like, and since rooting process gives you a recovery ROM, you can change ROMs any time you want just by adding a file to your sdcard and rebooting the phone and choosing an option. This option too removes bloatware. For rooting process, you dont need a goldcard.
Later
But, if you later want to take the phone back for warranty purpose at any time (after using method B), at that point you might (most likely) or might not (depending on the method used) need the goldcard to flash an RUU since Orange RUUs are not available right now (though there is a method posted on XDA which helps unroot Orange phones). If Orange RUUs become available at a later date, then you may not need a goldcard.
Believe me, creating a goldcard is the least of your worries. It's nearly effortless (not at all something major like rooting or unrooting) and gives you freedom from worry, since it means you can in 98% cases, recover from a softbrick if something goes wrong. Even if you dont create a goldcard, download this goldcard tool, connect your phone and choose the first button (Get CID) after connecting your goldcard. Once the CID is read, you should store it in a text file. You can then complete the rest of the steps later. But this is not recommended since goldcard creation does not work for all memory card types and makes.
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Many thanks for clearing that up. All makes sense now. Think I already have a Gold Card from a previous unenergetic debranding attempt. Will hunt that out and keep in a safe place.
Best thing is to make your day to day card your gold card as you can just leave it in the phone and forget about it. Updates will also install correctly as you'd need the gold card to do an OTA update
Sorry to butt in
droidzone said:
Hmm..What you want is to get rid of the Orange bloatware.. You don't actually care about having root access..
You can:
[A] Flash a new generic (WWE-Worldwide English) RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility), a program designed by HTC to upgrade ROMs. Generic RUU gives you everything that HTC designed to be on the phone with no crap from Orange. This does not give you root access. You basically get an unbranded phone like the ones released by HTC elsewhere in the world. This does need goldcard right now, since you're debranding the phone.
I am very new to android but am in exactlty the same position. I just want to get rid of all the orange crap.
I understand option A is probably my best option but have read elsewhere that this will sim lock my phone and I will then need to unlock it is this true.
Thanks for your help.
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Hello All
I am a newbie to Android. I have an Orange UK HTC Desire. I rooted it and installed ClockworkMod recovery, plus LollyRom (0.2 version) for Froyo and App2SD.
Now I want to revert it back to original ROM in light of upcoming update for European Desires. Please tell me:
1) Is there a way to unroot my phone back to a GENERIC ROM rather than the Orange version?
2) What is the easiest method for that? And do I need a goldcard (I rooted using Unrevoked so did not need one). Please note that my phone was not locked as such, just displayed Orange splash screen and some (horrible) Orange apps
3) If I unroot it and install a generic ROM, will it be detected as a generic Euro unrooted Desire (so that it can be updated)?
Urgent help would be appreciated
talhamid said:
Hello All
I am a newbie to Android. I have an Orange UK HTC Desire. I rooted it and installed ClockworkMod recovery, plus LollyRom (0.2 version) for Froyo and App2SD.
Now I want to revert it back to original ROM in light of upcoming update for European Desires. Please tell me:
1) Is there a way to unroot my phone back to a GENERIC ROM rather than the Orange version?
2) What is the easiest method for that? And do I need a goldcard (I rooted using Unrevoked so did not need one). Please note that my phone was not locked as such, just displayed Orange splash screen and some (horrible) Orange apps
3) If I unroot it and install a generic ROM, will it be detected as a generic Euro unrooted Desire (so that it can be updated)?
Urgent help would be appreciated
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I believe if the rumors and gossip is true that Euro will get updated by this weekend then you need to unroot to HTC_europe version in the official ROM that is available in the sticky post.
I am also pretty sure when HTC rolled the update, it will also be made available everywhere too as long as it is official ROM version. So yes, you will get the update.
Thanks very much.
I just need to know: will I need a goldcard or something to unroot? I did not require it at the time of rooting.
Secondly there seem to be two versions of the generic Euro ROM - which to choose?
Seeing as you're on orange, unless your phone is unlocked, you'll need the 1.15. The 1.21 one updates the radio as well and causes a sim lock on orange phones.
Yes you will need a gold card to flash a generic rom. Imo, the generic rom is much better than the orange one with all the demo games and stuff. If you struggle making a goldcard, google goldcardtool - makes the job easy. Just a few mouse clicks and its done. Simple
kuailan said:
I believe if the rumors and gossip is true that Euro will get updated by this weekend then you need to unroot to HTC_europe version in the official ROM that is available in the sticky post.
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I'm on mac os x, can someone link me to/ extract the rom.zip for
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe
??
ps. what is the difference between
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.1_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121684.exe
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe
iinga: Many thanks for the reply. Please bear with me the repetitive questions though:
1) You say I am on Orange. I WAS when I bought the phone, but I am using a different SIM now (in another country) and its working perfectly without unlocking etc. After rooting and installing LollyRom all traces of Orange have vanished from my phone. Does it still mean I have to be picky with generic ROMs?
2) I did not need a gold card to root it and install another Froyo ROM. Is it confirmed that I will need a gold card to unroot it back?
1) What network are you now on? I know that orange are very picky with radio updates. Despite rooting/debranding, updating the radio would mean that they simlock their phone. However, as you mentioned you are on another network, I believe that you may have an unlocked phone?
Also, as the froyo update requires a new radio, it may well be worth your while to unlock regardless...I originally unlocked mine (despite being on orange network) to update to froyo roms with the necessary radio update.
2) Yes, you will still need a goldcard to install a generic rom.
I had Orange UK ROM. I've unlocked it with a code. Then I made a goldcard and installed
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe
Everything works fine but one thing. Red color is rather orange than red and is too saturated ie. faces of my friends are very reddish. I hope Froyo resolve this.
Just a quick point the Rom coming out this weekend is for unbranded and unlocked phones only not Orange or vodaphone or t mobile just unbranded and unlocked HTC desire.
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I think that after unlocking and actualizing to official ROM my HTC is the same as brand new unlocked Desire. I don't suppose that OTA checks IMEI numbers and knows which phone was unlocked phone from begining.
Iinga: actually I am in a third world country having imported orange branded desire. I did update the radio before updating to a Froyo Rom . The phone is working perfectly with a local 2.5 g sim from day one and continued to work perfectly after rooting and updating . So far as I am concerned my phone IS unlocked despite initial orange branding. So I think transition to a generic HTC euro Rom will be possible . Am I correct ?
Secondly I didn't need a gold card for rooting and installing a custom Rom and it worked so it shows my phone is not network locked. So why do i need it to revert to a generic Rom ? Sorry for repetition again and thanks for the help
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Ok, i guess you are unlocked.
From my understanding, if your phone was originally flashed with an orange rom, you will need a goldcard. You only don't need a goldcard if your phone was originally unbranded.
Rooting is a different process
Ok I guess now everything is clear . Just to confirm: using the goldcard I will be able to turn my currently rooted phone into a generic euro phone right ? Now the only question is which ruu to use of the given two.
since your phone is unlocked, use 1.21, it's the last official update for unbranded phones:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe
So this will revert me to generic euro? What about those ruus labeled euro or something like that ?
RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
Use that one as you're unlocked. And yes it will revert you to official stock rom.
So what if your IMEI isn't in the 'database'?
Yes, an OTA has sim-locked the phone. Yes, I am on Orange. Yes, I went to htccode.com.
No, my IMEI is NOT in the database (it's three months old!). Will be chasing for a refund from htccode so let's see what happens.
What next? I could flash the earlier ROM again, but I want the Froyo upgrade to work. I did try to go to Orange for the unlock code but, despite being an Orange-branded phone, I bought it through Phones4U. Apparently I have to go to them for the code. Sounds suss to me, but will be popping to the shop today to ask.
SavCom
I've just been to htcunlock.com. Paid my dues, got my phone back and we're now running Froyo properly as of an hour ago.
Off to htccode.com to get my money back
I have a Desire that had the Orange rom on it, I debranded it with a goldcard to the generic 1.15 rom, then i did the OTA update to 1.21.405 which also updated the Hboot to 0.8 and the updated radio and simlocked the phone so I bought an unlock code and all was good.
Next I rooted the phone using the modaco r6 rooted 1.15 rom, used a few rooted roms then decided I would unroot to get the official froyo update. To do this I used the 1.21.405 zip from shipped roms, put it on the sd card (gold card) named as PB99IMG, booted to recovery and selected fastboot, this is the only way to get back if you have the 0.8 hboot. That took me back to generic unrooted so yesterday I was prompted to install the 2.2 update. I didn't install it as the new hboot sounds like a nightmare. Instead I rooted again using unrevoked 3 and installed a rooted version of the official 2.2 rom, I didn't use a goldcard for this.
Hope this helps.
bakedecake said:
I have a Desire that had the Orange rom on it, I debranded it with a goldcard to the generic 1.15 rom, then i did the OTA update to 1.21.405 which also updated the Hboot to 0.8 and the updated radio and simlocked the phone so I bought an unlock code and all was good.
Next I rooted the phone using the modaco r6 rooted 1.15 rom, used a few rooted roms then decided I would unroot to get the official froyo update. To do this I used the 1.21.405 zip from shipped roms, put it on the sd card (gold card) named as PB99IMG, booted to recovery and selected fastboot, this is the only way to get back if you have the 0.8 hboot. That took me back to generic unrooted so yesterday I was prompted to install the 2.2 update. I didn't install it as the new hboot sounds like a nightmare. Instead I rooted again using unrevoked 3 and installed a rooted version of the official 2.2 rom, I didn't use a goldcard for this.
Hope this helps.
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I have a debranded orange phone, used a goldcard to debrand to a generic 1.21 ROM, since then I have upgraded to the new froyo 2.2 official and ever since my phone is on a continuous loop of restarting all the time every 2mins, no SD card, No WIFI and no GSM calls etc.
I've tred various RUU's and updates and nothing has worked. Im thinking maybe I need an Orange RUU file, but just can't find one anywhere...
I tried using 1.21.405 zip, renamed to PB99IMG then went through recovery mode and fastboot, but when fast boot was selected nothing happened just another menu with - reset, bootloader, clear data etc nothing to say install anything?
Right, first of all, I've tried searching and have found LOADS of really helpful information. But nothing seems to clearly answer my query which should hopefully be a quick one for someone to answer.
I previously had a G1 and have rooted/flashed a custom rom onto that, so I am familiar with the whole process. My only concern is that things seem a bit different with the Desire.
To set the scene, I have a T-Mobile branded Desire with default 2.1 ROM (Build 1.15.110.11). There is no specific T-Mobile software other than the boot animation. But I've read that this build of the OS is specific to T-Mobile, so I assume it is branded...
I currently have no need to unlock the phone to allow for other networks as I'm in my contract for the long haul! My questions are:
Do I need to have my phone unlocked in order to root?
Secondly, to root and install a custom rom, do I need to use a gold card if I am going to use unrevoked? Or is the unrevoked method an alternative to the gold card method?
And lastly, is there a specific radio image that I need to use for T-Mobile?
Any additional tips specific to T-Mobile handsets are appreciated!
Thanks in advance for any help, and let me know if I've missed off anything important.
Apologies for the length of the post, I just wanted to make you sure I got all the details down.
Hi Mate
1: No you dont
2: No gold card for root but I think yes for custom rom or you get the endless reboot prob.
3: I don't think so but wouldn't like to say for sure.
i have a UK TMobile phone and I always use the recommended radio that goes with the customer ROM.
I am currently running LeeDroid 1.8 with radio 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20
Thanks for your reply. I've managed to root it with unrevoked, even easier than I expected. But your comment on the gold card is well timed as I was going to put a rom on in the next couple of hours, without a gold card!
I'll hang fire and see if anyone else can confirm whether I need one or not...
Cheers
to be honest mate for how easy they are to create you may as well have one even just as a safe guard for the future
MajorTomUK said:
Right, first of all, I've tried searching and have found LOADS of really helpful information. But nothing seems to clearly answer my query which should hopefully be a quick one for someone to answer.
I previously had a G1 and have rooted/flashed a custom rom onto that, so I am familiar with the whole process. My only concern is that things seem a bit different with the Desire.
To set the scene, I have a T-Mobile branded Desire with default 2.1 ROM (Build 1.15.110.11). There is no specific T-Mobile software other than the boot animation. But I've read that this build of the OS is specific to T-Mobile, so I assume it is branded...
I currently have no need to unlock the phone to allow for other networks as I'm in my contract for the long haul! My questions are:
Do I need to have my phone unlocked in order to root?
Secondly, to root and install a custom rom, do I need to use a gold card if I am going to use unrevoked? Or is the unrevoked method an alternative to the gold card method?
And lastly, is there a specific radio image that I need to use for T-Mobile?
Any additional tips specific to T-Mobile handsets are appreciated!
Thanks in advance for any help, and let me know if I've missed off anything important.
Apologies for the length of the post, I just wanted to make you sure I got all the details down.
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i was in exactly the same boat as you. i unlocked my phone cos is was visiting germany for a while. you dont need to unlock but you do need to debrand i.e flash a non branded ROM to the phone to root.
follow this guide:
http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Other-Off-Topic/Debranding-Unlocking-an-HTC-Desire/td-p/23317
once debranded you can run unrevoked to root the desire. after this point you have a decision to make: which ROM to flash through clockwork recover(what unrevoked installs so you can flash ROMs).. if i were you i would make sure you flash a ROM that doesnt upgrade the hboot to 0.92( you can downgrade but its a pain in the ass!).
so to answer you questions:no, yes and no. no specific radio image needed for t mobile as in order to root you need to debrand anyway so any operator specific radio is redundant. i used the sd card that cam with my phone to make the goldcard( copy the contents of the card to your PC, format the card, make goldcard, once you have made the goldcard you can put all the stuff back on the sd card, the card will remain a goldcard until its formatted again).
its all pretty simple really, i was hesitant but half an hour late was wondering what i was so worried about.!
good luck
bob dylan said:
you dont need to unlock but you do need to debrand i.e flash a non branded ROM to the phone to root.
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I rooted my Virgin Media branded phone with unrevoked without flashing a debranded rom
I used the goldcard method to root my T-Mo UK Desire that had 2.1 on, but now you can just use Unrevoked to install a recovery image and then use recovery to flash the ROM of your choice, easy as pie
Thanks for all the replies guys. I'll do a gold card in a bit.
Unrevoked ran ok and ClockworkMod is installed ok, so I assume I didn't need to de-brand in any way?
I think I might go with LeeDroid, but I'll let you know how I get on.
Cheers!
jamesmcuk said:
I rooted my Virgin Media branded phone with unrevoked without flashing a debranded rom
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if you rooted with unrevoked you debranded! unrevoked flashes a custom recovery( ie a non branded recovery.
bob dylan said:
if you rooted with unrevoked you debranded! unrevoked flashes a custom recovery( ie a non branded recovery.
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I am quite sure thats not correct. Debranding removes the operator logos and software - rooting modifies the bootloader to install the custom recovery
I used unrevoked and still had all branding in place. I have now debranded and no Virgin Media stuff remains
Hi there,
I installed the LeeDroid rom earlier today.
This was installed on a debranded orange phone. I rooted first with Unrevoked then used the clockwork recovery to install the associated zip files for the rom.
In post one of the thread LeoDroid makes the comment "everyone needs an ext3 partition on there SD" so I made sure I had this in place before starting.
During the process of making the EXT3 partition I formatted my SDcard then used this card to install the rom. So during the installation I didn't use a gold card.
Everything is working great.
Hope this helps.
Matt
jamesmcuk said:
I am quite sure thats not correct. Debranding removes the operator logos and software - rooting modifies the bootloader to install the custom recovery
I used unrevoked and still had all branding in place. I have now debranded and no Virgin Media stuff remains
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really? weired, i used unrevoked and it removed my operator logos and software.
odd.
maybe its different depending on who branded the phone there seems to be much variation in the software which is one aspect in which the iphone does win out. The only one mind you lol
Right, gold card done just in case. Just copying everything back onto the SD card. I definitely still have a T-Mobile boot screen which shows after the HTC logo after I've used unrevoked, although maybe this will disappear when I flash a custom rom?
Regarding an ext3 partition, I thought this was only necessary if I wanted the old style A2SD? I don't run a massive amount of apps as I've managed fine up to now, so the Froyo implementation should be fine for me. I'm dual booting to Ubuntu, so may be worth setting up a 1gb ext3 partition just in case as it won't take long to do...
Again, thanks for all your help!
Mine is T-Mobile UK too. I'm moving between 3 ROMs to test something temporarily but I'm running the stock HTC 2.2 with root. You don't need a goldcard to use these stock ROMs. Just root and then flash.
Flash the correct radio image before the ROM to avoid many potential problems (install zip from SD card through recovery).
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Mine is T-Mobile UK too. I'm moving between 3 ROMs to test something temporarily but I'm running the stock HTC 2.2 with root. You don't need a goldcard to use these stock ROMs. Just root and then flash.
Flash the correct radio image before the ROM to avoid many potential problems (install zip from SD card through recovery).
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Cheers mate, literally just about to do this. Latest radio is now on and working ok with stock 2.1. Now to flash rom! Also decided to use HTC 2.2 with root, and take it from there I reckon.
As you said in your opening post T Mobile has for a change not put a whole load of rubbish on the phone and the main thing appears to be the splash screen.
I debranded my phone after unlocking & rooting as it is a quick and simple thing to do and just in case there was something lurking that I was not aware of
wgg said:
As you said in your opening post T Mobile has for a change not put a whole load of rubbish on the phone and the main thing appears to be the splash screen.
I debranded my phone after unlocking & rooting as it is a quick and simple thing to do and just in case there was something lurking that I was not aware of
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Yeah, after I flashed a custom rom, even the T-Mobile logo has disappeared from the boot/splash screen. So no branding anywhere now!
All that's left is the pink circle when I first power the phone on, which looks T-Mobile'ish! That'll be contained in the HBOOT won't it?
I have absolutely no T Mobile branding, would go straight to HTC when using a stock rom.
I been going round here and the web wondering how to do this. I have
hboot 0.83.0001
I made a gold card which seems to have worked out fine so far but no idea where to go from here about updating my phone from 2.1 3 network branded to a non branded firmware. I am not interested in any custom firmware or anything I don't care about extra apps I just want stable 2.2.
I was in exactly the same position as yourself, had a 3 branded desire with same bootloader.
I made a goldcard also but found I didn't need it, I used unrevoked3 to root the phone and install clockwork mod from which I installed a update.zip patch and then a rooted untouched 2.2 Rom and now the phone is still rooted, unbranded and running 2.2 like a charm. Sorry if this explanation is a bit vague.
The Rom I used was 2.09.405.8-update-bravo-stock-rooted-busybox-withradio-signed.zip
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Boot your phone is rooted something I am not interested in really as I want Offical 2.2 unbranded. If I have to root temp to get there I don't mind going hrough the process providing its safe enough. I just don't see the point of rooting as the cons outweight the goals as some apps are starting to detect rooted phones now and refusing to boot.
Go here:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bravo/
username:shipped
password:shipped
and download this file to your PC:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
Once downloaded, connect your Desire to your PC and make sure HTC Sync says it's connected. Then run the RUU file you've just downloaded.
If your Gold card is correct it will allow you to flash the stock 2.2 ROM - you'll also need the gold card for future updates (either OTA or RUU)
Vhero said:
I just don't see the point of rooting as the cons outweight the goals as some apps are starting to detect rooted phones now and refusing to boot.
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Which apps? I've not heard of this issue.
BTW - you should edit your thread title, because your use of the word "Vanilla" implies that you want to try a non-Sense ROM which would require you to root.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Which apps? I've not heard of this issue.
BTW - you should edit your thread title, because your use of the word "Vanilla" implies that you want to try a non-Sense ROM which would require you to root.
Regards,
Dave
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blizzard authenticator can detect if your phone is rooted and will not boot Blizzard say its for security reasons but I read on net it's not just this app that refuses to boot if it detects a root.
Go here:
username:shipped
password:shipped
and download this file to your PC:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.0 0.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
Once downloaded, connect your Desire to your PC and make sure HTC Sync says it's connected. Then run the RUU file you've just downloaded.
If your Gold card is correct it will allow you to flash the stock 2.2 ROM - you'll also need the gold card for future updates (either OTA or RUU)
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Thanks for this will probably try later I don't understand why I will need the gold card for future updates though??
You'll need your gold card because your phone is a branded phone - the CID code won't pass checks without the gold card, even though you've 'debranded' the handset
Thank you all for this most informative thread, and apologies for the minor hijack.
I have a tmobile branded desire and would also like to be running the stock 2.2 with sense.
Will the above process work for me ?
I was hoping to get the OTA updates OTA however, is there a way of doing this ?
Also, are there any benefits to removing the carrier sim lock even though I have no intention of using an alternative carrier sim ?
Thanks for your time.
edit: I have read a bit more, and, now knowing the warranty issues, I will not be attempting to modify the CID
EddyOS said:
You'll need your gold card because your phone is a branded phone - the CID code won't pass checks without the gold card, even though you've 'debranded' the handset
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Your link didnt work anyway once you click download theres an error as the sites been taken over.
Hey all,
I have a quick question or two about goldcards and what they do and when they are needed. I created one as per the instructions on this page
"broadbandgenie.co.uk/blog/20100822-how-debrand-htc-desire-update-froyo" and it allowed me to load stock Froyo 2.2 onto my Virgin Mobile branded Desire.
Strangely I now seem to be able to use other SIM's too, but thats not really relevant.
My questions are as follows...
1) What exactly did this goldcard do that allowed me to load an unbranded Froyo ROM
2) I've since rooted my phone with unrEVOked 3.21, do I still need the goldcard to load OTA updates or a new custom ROM in the future?
3) What ever the answer to question 2, can an explanation be givenas to why?
And slightly OT, but I've read some horror stories about wrong radios or SPL's(?) killing phones permanently. So on that subject..
1) Do I need to make sure I have the right radio each time I load a custom ROM?
2) If so, where do I get the radio files and how do I know which is right?
3) Would an OTA update take care of the above for me automatically?
4) Are HBOOT and SPL the same thing?
Again, apologies for asking things that have undoubtedly been answered before but I'd like to be fully armed with the knowledge I need before I go any further with my Desire.
Many thanks,
Nathan.
First batch:
1. The gold card in affect masks the CID of the phone and makes the phone appear to be a generic handset so it can accept any official ROM
2. If you've only rooted the stock ROM you were on and are going to continue to use it then yes you'll need the gold card for ALL future OTA updates. This is for the same reason as point 1. If you're going to use a custom ROM then you don't need a gold card at all as rooting via unrEVOked can be done without a gold card.
3. See points 1 and 2
Second set:
1. Yes, all custom ROMs threads have a recommended radio stated in the first post
2. There's a thread for radios in the Dev section, see point 1 for other info
3. Yes it will, but see point 2 of first batch answers
4. SPL is WinMo phones, HBOOT is the Android equivalent
Fantastic! Thanks for that.
So for my own clarification, the goldcard bypasses some security in the official ROM's, be they branded or not? But the custom ROM's have no such security restrictions meaning I do not need the gold card?
And from where I am now, stock Froyo rooted with unrEVOked, I am in a decent position to simlpy load on LeeDroid ROM for example just by the method he describes in his official post?
Would I at any point need to upgrade my HBOOT from 0.93 manually?
Many thanks! I think I am finally getting my head round the various areas of Android/ROM's etc.
Nathan
Yes. Say you had a T-Mobile branded Desire and tried to flash a generic RUU file to it it would fail the CID check. A gold card effectively masks this so the RUU file thinks you have a CID unlocked Desire and allows you to flash it. Just remember to leave the gold card in the phone as you'll need it for OTA updates as they come along (and they'll remove root access in the process).
With rooting you will have a custom recovery which doesn't run the check an official RUU does so you can just flash the ZIP file without any issues
If you're on rooted FroYo now then you'll already be on HBOOT 0.93 so you can't forget about that. The HBOOT is only changed on official updates
Thanks again Eddy
I'm slowly but surely getting more knowledge and in return becoming more intrigued about I can do with the phone. Maybe one day I'll be the one handing out advice
Cheers,
Nathan.
Hey guys, first time poster here and a bit of a newb to rooting, Android and smart-phones in general.
I've been hanging on these forums the past 3 months researching the rooting process for a Desire and all the relevant stuff that goes along with it. So please go easy on me. I've also read all the 'similar threads' suggested to me at post-time.
I'm almost ready to begin the process but there's a few bits of information that's got me pretty scared before I go ahead. I wasn't able to find much of a concrete answer/s to these questions, from Googling around.
Well without further ado.
What is the difference between GSM & CDMA and do I need to know which my phone is before proceeding?
If I DO need to know, how do I find this out?
My phone is branded (Orange splash-screen at boot) and locked to Orange network (Newly recieved contract phone).
I've heard that I may need a goldcard to proceed with the Unrevoked process due to the branding. Is this correct?
Another guide on the net (can provide link if necessary), mentions upgrading the radio on Orange phones can permanently break the wifi OR permanently simlock your phone.
Will I need to worry about this during the Unrevoked rooting process? And will this be avoidable after installing a custom rom. (If I get that far )
I read somewhere on these forums (I forgot where exactly), something about the newest Orange OTA update causing problems with the rooting process. Is this still the case or has Unrevoked been updated to avoid that now? Also, how can I check if I have that update?
I can provide all the information about my Hboot, radio and kernel versions etc, if you need it (I guess you will), but for some reason, I keep getting a spam warning as this is my first post. I can only assume the version numbers are being interpreted as IPs...
Well sorry for the wall of text, but I greatly appreciate any help I can get regarding these issues. I'm so scared of bricking my Desire and not being able to return it, if bricking does occur.
Yours a worried root newb!
1. We use GSM phones in the UK as we use SIM cards. CDMA phones don't use SIM cards and are locked/released to one network
2. You don't need a gold card to root, no. As there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty you will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU. Best to make one before starting
3. This was the case a while back but I'd wait for confirmation before changing it
4. No as the radio isn't flashed during a ROM (unless stated in the ROM thread that it does)
5. Shouldn't be an issue, just get the latest version of unrEVOked from their website before starting
Great, that's most of my questions/concerns answered. Although the below answer has brought a new question to the front
EddyOS said:
2. You don't need a gold card to root, no. As there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty you will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU. Best to make one before starting
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Unfortunately my knowledge of RUU is almost non-existant, other than that it stands for Rom Upgrade Utility and is used to upgrade the software on my phone? Right?
And forgive me if I'm being dumb here but, if
EddyOS said:
there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty
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and yet I
EddyOS said:
will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU
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then how can I do this? Or am I totally misunderstanding you?
Do I somehow use an application without root permission to perform a procedure similar to hdd ghosting?
Basically, if you wanted to return to stock for any reason you wouldn't be able to go back to the Orange ROM as the RUU doesn't exist so you'd have to go to a generic ROM. To flash any ROM other than the originally on the phone you need a gold card
It's the same for me, if (for some strange reason) I'd want to flash a branded ROM on my Desire I'd need a gold card. Thankfully, I have an unbranded handset so I can get the stock RUU and use it without a gold card
EddyOS said:
Basically, if you wanted to return to stock for any reason you wouldn't be able to go back to the Orange ROM as the RUU doesn't exist so you'd have to go to a generic ROM.
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So basically if I were to screw it up, which I hopefully won't, I'm buggered as far as getting my phone fixed cos they'll see the Orange rom is no longer installed? Not too fussed about that, as I'm super-careful with my phone.
I guess my next issue would be, after rooting using Unrevoked, I'd need to gain S-OFF right? Which I understand is done via AlphaRev. Only issue there would be related to this
"Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files." If I'm reverting to a stock rom, while gaining S-OFF presumably there's a high chance that'd upgrade my radio - a potentially very bad thing.
THEN I go about choosing a rom to flash. Then Nandroid backup. Then flash the rom, hopefully love it and voila?
Also, what would you suggest as a good rom for someone like me just starting out with a fully rooted phone? I was thinking one of the official builds to lose all the crap, but then the above issue of the radio creeps up again...
I have been flashing ROM's since I got my phone rooted last year and I have never bothered to S-OFF. It's not a requirement.
I have tried a number of ROM's (it becomes a bit addictive!) there is not normally a need to flash a new radio, just leave it be. If you are worried about it and the ROM requires a new radio don't flash it. There are plenty to choose from.
As for recommendations, everyone has their own tastes and likes. That's the beauty of modding. Just flash a few ROM's and see which you like. I have tried most of them, stuck with MIUI for ages, but am now on Cyanogenmod 7 Nightly's.
There is nothing to really worry about. There is a remote chance of bricking your phone for a start, like 0.0000000001% chance. Only way of doing it is disconnecting during say an S-Off.
As for the Orange issue. I had a locked, Orange Desire with 2.2 on it (the first update) and when I rooted and S-Off'd I had no problems. I also have updated my radio to 5.14.05.17 and have no issues at all. To be honest, I found issues to do with signals and Wi-Fi are to do with the ROM you install and the kernel as well which can be frustrating but fun as well.
As for choosing a ROM, choose one, flash it then see what it's like. It's purely down to what you like most about each ROM. I've been through so many ROMs in the past few months but now I am sort of staying with 1 ROM. I will say that when I installed a custom ROM, I had to pay to unlock my sim because it was being gay and Orange wanted £20 of my hard earned cash to unlock it and send it off. So be prepared.
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So basically if I were to screw it up, which I hopefully won't, I'm buggered as far as getting my phone fixed cos they'll see the Orange rom is no longer installed? Not too fussed about that, as I'm super-careful with my phone.
I guess my next issue would be, after rooting using Unrevoked, I'd need to gain S-OFF right? Which I understand is done via AlphaRev. Only issue there would be related to this
"Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files." If I'm reverting to a stock rom, while gaining S-OFF presumably there's a high chance that'd upgrade my radio - a potentially very bad thing.
THEN I go about choosing a rom to flash. Then Nandroid backup. Then flash the rom, hopefully love it and voila?
Also, what would you suggest as a good rom for someone like me just starting out with a fully rooted phone? I was thinking one of the official builds to lose all the crap, but then the above issue of the radio creeps up again...
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Don't bother about S-OFF at the moment, you don't need it. Just get rooted and then look into custom ROMs for now
Ok I've taken a tiny step further forward. I'm at the point of making a goldcard but one thing concerns me... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6710085&postcount=3 According to that it won't work with the 2.2 OTA update from HTC.
I know, I have 2.2 installed but this was already on the phone when I received it, so I've no idea if this was an OTA or not... So I guess I need a different method to make a goldcard now?
Use this:
http://android.modaco.com/content/software/308798/pc-application-goldcardtool/
Probably need to register to get the file, though
Hmmm tried using that tool and no joy... Get my img file downloaded, but then the tool refuses to recognise my phone, despite doing the appropriate change over to 'disk drive'. I tried re-plugging the un-mounting and re-plugging the usb cable. Still no joy.
I'm beginning to lose hope here... That tool won't work and the tutorial here says it's incompatible with 2.2...
**edit**
Been Googling around a fair bit and I can't find any information at all on downgrading a branded 2.2. Only information on people with branded handsets wanting to update to 2.2.
After a bit more searching, I found someone else with the exact same issue as me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10370443&postcount=977
Only one difference though. He doesn't mention if he managed to flash a custom rom after his root. I'm guessing he probably wouldn't have been able to going by your post:
EddyOS said:
To flash any ROM other than the originally on the phone you need a gold card
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A gold card is only needed to flash a STOCK ROM different from your original - it's not needed to flash a custom ROM. The gold card isn't even needed to root. It's just handy to have in your case as you'd need it to go back to stock due to the lack of an Orange RUU
I'm out of ideas I'm afraid, never had to deal with a gold card as I'm unbranded
Use this:
http://android.modaco.com/content/so...-goldcardtool/
Probably need to register to get the file, though
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Does that work a lot better then?
I used the method posted by thetasigma3 and I can't get OTA 2.29.405.5 but I can get 2.29.405.2. To get round the problem I installed the 2.29.405.5 RUU and rooted
Anyone who's debranded will need to use the RUU as the OTA won't go through
GoogleJelly said:
I will say that when I installed a custom ROM, I had to pay to unlock my sim because it was being gay and Orange wanted £20 of my hard earned cash to unlock it and send it off. So be prepared.
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Call me crazy, but why the heck would flashing a custom rom require you to unlock and send off? Presumably the sending off thing would've been for Orange to perform the unlock procedure?
Anyway, back to my main issue, I know I've probably tread the same ground a few times now, but I really don't wanna end up bricking, cos I overlooked a tiny element, or something.
Could someone confirm I have these points all correct please?
Goldcard NOT needed for rooting.
Goldcard NOT needed if/when I flash a custom rom.
Goldcard needed if I wanted to go back to a STOCK rom.
Only reason to flash a STOCK rom is if I need to send back to Orange for repairs etc.
Oh and thanks for the clarification on your earlier post EddyOS. About goldcards not being needed for custom roms as opposed to stock etc.
Think I'm ready to go ahead with the process now, but if I go ahead and something goes wrong, what's my safety net, so to speak? Presumably my battery would die on me long before I get a response here
What you have there is correct (point 2-5)
The unlocking issue was down to some radios causing Orange handsets to become SIM locked. If you're using an Orange SIM this isn't an issue but others who got an Orange handset but use a different SIM card found they wouldn't work.
This was earlier in the Desire's life and I don't think it's applicable now
Try using "GoldCard Helper" app from Android Market, in case you want to try and make a goldcard (as the other methods did not work for you).
As mentioned as EddyOS, all your points from 2 - 5 are correct.
Ok finally got the guts together to go ahead and run unRevoked. (Already had done the driver steps etc).
I've checked with an app from the Android Market, called 'Root Check' to verify root access. That's saying I do have it and it also asked for Root permissions on start-up, which it never did before root. So I assume that's a good sign. I also checked for the 'Superuser Permissions' app in my apps menu. Found it was present and clicked it. Started without any problems. So I guess that's another good sign.
So I guess my next set of questions are reasonable simple.
Does this seem like my phone is now 100% rooted? I think it is, but I could be wrong.
Do I need to install Busybox? Root Checker seems to like seeing it there.
Does it matter if I use Titanium Backup Pro or free? I'm guessing it won't but I'd like to be certain.
If I backup my current Orange rom with Titanium Backup will I be able to go back to that without a goldcard? My guess is no. I didn't make or use one for the root process.
1. Yes
2. For Titanium Backup, yes
3. No
4. You don't backup the ROM with TB, you boot into Recovery and do it there
kvphani said:
Try using "GoldCard Helper" app from Android Market, in case you want to try and make a goldcard (as the other methods did not work for you).
As mentioned as EddyOS, all your points from 2 - 5 are correct.
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Hey man, I downloaded that app and found a fairly easy looking guide on the Unlockr http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/ . Just wanted to check, if I use that app plus this guide. I skip steps 1-6 right?
Ok gone ahead and done that now. Just having some trouble finding instructions on backing up my Orange rom.
Oh and now that the forum won't grumble at my phone info, here it is. Hopefully that'll shed some more light on my situation, if I need further help.
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.10.05.30
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
Android Version
2.2
Baseband Version
32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30
Kernel Version
2.6.32.15-g29e526b
[email protected] #1
Build Number
2.17.61.3 CL274424 release-keys
Softare Number
2.17.61.3
Browser Version
WebKit 3.1
Model Number
A8181