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[Q] Built in Wifi Hotspot vs. Wireless Tether For Root Users

Running CM6 on my Evo and noticed that I only get 1.7mbs down from the built in WiFi Hotspot feature, and 2.5mbs down from the Wireless Tether for Root Users app from the marketplace. Anyone have similar findings, or know why this might be?

Those are some pretty decent speeds for 3G.

im0rtalz said:
Those are some pretty decent speeds for 3G.
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That's what I was thinking LOL

The only reasonable explanation would be that Sprint is managing throughput of the WiFi hotspot, or that it was designed to be intentionally slower. There is NO Reason why it should be faster or slower than the Root WiFi tether app. They're connecting to the same network, the only difference being the apps themselves.. I wouldn't pay Sprint $30 extra for that app anyway. It's a waste with Root WiFi tether.

heygrl said:
The only reasonable explanation would be that Sprint is managing throughput of the WiFi hotspot, or that it was designed to be intentionally slower. There is NO Reason why it should be faster or slower than the Root WiFi tether app. They're connecting to the same network, the only difference being the apps themselves.. I wouldn't pay Sprint $30 extra for that app anyway. It's a waste with Root WiFi tether.
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CM6's mobile tether is built into the AOSP, Sprint removes this and add's their own app, which is why Wireless Tether for root is necessary on Sense ROMs.
I have no idea why this would occur, maybe the Wifi Tether has a higher process priority than the built in?

Wimax vs. wifi hotspot?

Does Wimax relate to only 4G? And what about wifi hotspot? 3G or 4G?

Wimax is the technical term for 4G (well, one of them)
LTE is also a popular 4G technology.
The hotspot option works in 3G and 4G areas as long as your paying Sprint the $29.99 fee or if you are rooted and have wireless tether

Hmm. Ok so no 4G here, but with wireless tether app I can't connect my PC but with wifi hotspot I can connect my PC.

dwntwnall4u said:
Hmm. Ok so no 4G here, but with wireless tether app I can't connect my PC but with wifi hotspot I can connect my PC.
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with both you can connect the pc to the phone's 4g or 3g through wifi

dwntwnall4u said:
Hmm. Ok so no 4G here, but with wireless tether app I can't connect my PC but with wifi hotspot I can connect my PC.
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The Wireless Tether app will only work if you've rooted your phone. Have you done that?

Correction:
WiMax is 802.16e. WiMax and LTE (Verizon, AT&T's, and possibly T-Mobile's "4G") are not actually 4G, as they do not have the speed or latency requirements to be called such. Calling these technologies "4G" would be like calling GSM EDGE "3G" just because it's one-step better than regular GSM.
Real 4G has a >100mbps connection and fully backwards-compatible (see this page for detailed information). Current LTE and WiMax technologies do not fit either of these requirements (nor the other requirements for 4G, such as a fully IPv6 and VoIP network). However, their successors do fit these requirements: LTE-Advanced, and 802.16m (also called WiMax, but a noticably different version. To give an example, 802.11b and 802.11n are both called WiFi, but calling them the same thing would be far from appropriate).
So why do these companies call their "new" networks "4G"? It's a marketting term. That's all. Just like the stuff the GSM-based carriers (AT&T, mostly) pulled back when EDGE came out: Calling it more than it is, to try and look better than everyone else.
Just clarifying for everyone.

drmacinyasha said:
Correction:
WiMax is 802.16e. WiMax and LTE (Verizon, AT&T's, and possibly T-Mobile's "4G") are not actually 4G, as they do not have the speed or latency requirements to be called such. Calling these technologies "4G" would be like calling GSM EDGE "3G" just because it's one-step better than regular GSM.
Real 4G has a >100mbps connection and fully backwards-compatible (see this page for detailed information). Current LTE and WiMax technologies do not fit either of these requirements (nor the other requirements for 4G, such as a fully IPv6 and VoIP network). However, their successors do fit these requirements: LTE-Advanced, and 802.16m (also called WiMax, but a noticably different version. To give an example, 802.11b and 802.11n are both called WiFi, but calling them the same thing would be far from appropriate).
So why do these companies call their "new" networks "4G"? It's a marketting term. That's all. Just like the stuff the GSM-based carriers (AT&T, mostly) pulled back when EDGE came out: Calling it more than it is, to try and look better than everyone else.
Just clarifying for everyone.
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i mean thats all fine and dandy, but the average person doesnt really think about that stuff, 3g in theory is specs alot faster than it actually does in practice

Still, if you're going to call LTE and 802.16e "4G", let's just extend that and call EDGE "3G" and 56kbps dial-up can be "broadband." It's sorta like the whole "I run CM6 because I believe in OSS" deal.

wireless tether speeds vs easy tether

Just installed wireless tether and easy tether. Obviously wireless tether is nice as their is no need to plug your phone in, but I ran speed test on my lap top using both and with 4g on I got 7.23Mb/s with easy tether and only 2.49 with wireless. Just curious if other people seeing similar speeds and if there is a way to increase speed with the wireless.

Same here Fredrik, I got an 80% drop in speed using Wifi Tether. Easy tether only gave me only a 30% drop. Speedtest on my EVO was getting a constant 10Mb/s.

ok, figured out it is not my laptop wireless card because I just re ran a test on my on my lap top using wifi and got 19, so something must ave been using all of our bandwidth last night when I tested it.

nolonyc said:
Same here Fredrik, I got an 80% drop in speed using Wifi Tether. Easy tether only gave me only a 30% drop. Speedtest on my EVO was getting a constant 10Mb/s.
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OK, anyone figured out a way to speed up the wireless tethering?

which version of wireless tether? the newest is pre14

NewZJ said:
which version of wireless tether? the newest is pre14
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I am using pre 13, when I tried 14 my computer would connect but with no internet access.
also has anyone tried the sprint hot spot app and if so what speeds have they gotten using it?

I could not get internet access on pre14 either. I had to revert to a previous edition.

fredrik949 said:
I am using pre 13, when I tried 14 my computer would connect but with no internet access.
also has anyone tried the sprint hot spot app and if so what speeds have they gotten using it?
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I had the sprint hotspot feature for a month. It was awhile ago so I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was very fast especially with 4g, much faster than the wireless tether app.

l8agin said:
I had the sprint hotspot feature for a month. It was awhile ago so I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was very fast especially with 4g, much faster than the wireless tether app.
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OK then we know it's not hardware, it must be something with the wireless tether app. Hopefully they can improve on it.

I have a similar problem posted a few days ago about it. There is an issue open with the dev team about it. Issue 510 I believe.
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Is the speed better with RC1? I was seeing the same slowdown with earlier versions, but haven't had a chance to test RC1.

help if possible please...ty 4G issue.Tethering

i have 7MB speeds off of 4G, but when i tether with wireless tether app, or the stock app thats been unlocked, or pda net or anything else i have tryed, i get under 1mb download speeds...i have all the newest updated radios that came with 3.70...hope sumone has a solution or idea...have tryed the changes several ppl on here have posted but nothing changes...
no tether = 7MB down
tether = < 1MB down

You can't tether 4g yet
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swaze said:
You can't tether 4g yet
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You can on CM, at least it looks like it when I'm on 4g and turn on hotspot, unless it's actually using 3g and doesn't show it in the status bar.
swyped from my gingerbread'd Evo 4G

Tethering works nicely wired or wireless.
Wireless tether works well for 4g, as does wired tether. Both should be available in the market place.
For 3g tethering wireless, I use the stock hotspot app. For 3g wired, the last option in the charge menu works well - on roms where this has been enabled.
Not sure what the posts above are referring to stating that 4g tethering does not work....

gpz1100 said:
Tethering works nicely wired or wireless.
Wireless tether works well for 4g, as does wired tether. Both should be available in the market place.
For 3g tethering wireless, I use the stock hotspot app. For 3g wired, the last option in the charge menu works well - on roms where this has been enabled.
Not sure what the posts above are referring to stating that 4g tethering does not work....
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well i have been using various roms but mostly myns5 and just flashed koni elite tontite...no 4G speeds coming across tether, wired or wireless...any clues or suggestions ?

I'm not familiar with either of those. I've only played with 2 roms thus far, fresh and evio (see sig). Tethering on fresh required removing some files from the lib folder, but evio supported 3g/4g without doing anything else.
Make a backup and give it a try. I do know that unless you're paying for the hotspot feature, the sprint hotspot app will not support 4g tethering.
Btw, if replying to a directly post above, what is the point of quoting?

well i will have to try one of them then...my 3G speeds on tether are faster than when hooked up to 4G...habit on the quote...thanks for your help

My best results have been wired 4g. I'm not sure if it's the crappy wireless NIC on the pc or just the combination of multiple radios going on the evo. Best wireless speeds I see are 3-5 MB/s. Wired i've seen speeds upward of 9-12 MB/s (megabytes).
3G is usually crappy, 500-700 kbps down, under 300-400 kbps up

I am running ava and use the wireless tether. I can get 8mb down using speedtest.net on my phone but only 1.5 tethered on my lap top. There is a dramatic drop but if I didn't have 4g on that number drops dramatically. Without 4g I couldn't stream anything so I know it works but it does lose a lot of speed.
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gpz1100 said:
My best results have been wired 4g. I'm not sure if it's the crappy wireless NIC on the pc or just the combination of multiple radios going on the evo. Best wireless speeds I see are 3-5 MB/s. Wired i've seen speeds upward of 9-12 MB/s (megabytes).
3G is usually crappy, 500-700 kbps down, under 300-400 kbps up
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I agree I get similar speeds on both wireless and wired as this poster. I try to stick with wired for many reasons but mostly because if I am going to be tethered pulling 10Mbps+ (common for me at my work) then I would burn through my battery before the day was out anyway so why not plug it in.. get good speeds AND get juice!

ive noticed similar things 1-1.5 or so except that with wired pdanet seems im around 2.5-4 the one time i used it. I get 6-8 with the speedtest app on my phone. I wonder if the same would occur with the paid tether. perhaps they have some sort of throttling going on.

I was just out in woodland hills, ca and getting consistant 13 on 4g but with wifi tether sharing to a iphone it was only getting like .6 .7 megabits using the wifi tether app and the built in sprint app only works for 3g it shuts 4g off this is on mikfroyo rom.

gpz1100 said:
I'm not familiar with either of those. I've only played with 2 roms thus far, fresh and evio (see sig). Tethering on fresh required removing some files from the lib folder, but evio supported 3g/4g without doing anything else.
Make a backup and give it a try. I do know that unless you're paying for the hotspot feature, the sprint hotspot app will not support 4g tethering.
Btw, if replying to a directly post above, what is the point of quoting?
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which lib files do i remove to get the 4g speeds to actually tether.

[Q] Stupid question about wimax and cm7

So I finally got cm7, and it just so happens that I finally live in an area with 4g coverage. The built in wifi tether works, and wimax appears to work. What I do is turn on wimax, then the tether. How do I know if it is tethering 4g speeds? I haven't really noticed any difference.
*I have never used 4g before, because I haven't lived in an area that covered it.

kuthedude said:
So I finally got cm7, and it just so happens that I finally live in an area with 4g coverage. The built in wifi tether works, and wimax appears to work. What I do is turn on wimax, then the tether. How do I know if it is tethering 4g speeds? I haven't really noticed any difference.
*I have never used 4g before, because I haven't lived in an area that covered it.
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If I recall correctly you can't tether 4g with the built-in function on CM7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046764

mattykinsx said:
If I recall correctly you can't tether 4g with the built-in function on CM7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046764
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^^^^^^^ if you want to tether 4g.
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