[Q] Built in Wifi Hotspot vs. Wireless Tether For Root Users - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Running CM6 on my Evo and noticed that I only get 1.7mbs down from the built in WiFi Hotspot feature, and 2.5mbs down from the Wireless Tether for Root Users app from the marketplace. Anyone have similar findings, or know why this might be?

Those are some pretty decent speeds for 3G.

im0rtalz said:
Those are some pretty decent speeds for 3G.
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That's what I was thinking LOL

The only reasonable explanation would be that Sprint is managing throughput of the WiFi hotspot, or that it was designed to be intentionally slower. There is NO Reason why it should be faster or slower than the Root WiFi tether app. They're connecting to the same network, the only difference being the apps themselves.. I wouldn't pay Sprint $30 extra for that app anyway. It's a waste with Root WiFi tether.

heygrl said:
The only reasonable explanation would be that Sprint is managing throughput of the WiFi hotspot, or that it was designed to be intentionally slower. There is NO Reason why it should be faster or slower than the Root WiFi tether app. They're connecting to the same network, the only difference being the apps themselves.. I wouldn't pay Sprint $30 extra for that app anyway. It's a waste with Root WiFi tether.
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CM6's mobile tether is built into the AOSP, Sprint removes this and add's their own app, which is why Wireless Tether for root is necessary on Sense ROMs.
I have no idea why this would occur, maybe the Wifi Tether has a higher process priority than the built in?

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[Q] Does sprint mobile hotpot work on CM6?

Does Sprint mobile hotspot work on CM6?
yes i know that you can make you own hotspot without using the native sprint app, but seeing as how i use my phone for my work and daily browsing i dont think i can stay under the radar.
i dont mind spending the $30 a month BECAUSE i used to be paying WAY more for satellite internet which was rubbish. i am interesting in rooting my evo, but i dont want to compromise losing my sprint hotspot.
LostPuma said:
Does Sprint mobile hotspot work on CM6?
yes i know that you can make you own hotspot without using the native sprint app, but seeing as how i use my phone for my work and daily browsing i dont think i can stay under the radar.
i dont mind spending the $30 a month BECAUSE i used to be paying WAY more for satellite internet which was rubbish. i am interesting in rooting my evo, but i dont want to compromise losing my sprint hotspot.
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I don't know if you can do this, but I also don't know why you would want to.
CM includes built-in hotspot functionality.
As for staying under the radar, I have people on my corporate plan that pull 4-5GB per month on phones that I know do not have hotspots -- like a Palm Pixie -- (and I still can't figure out what the F they are doing with all that data), so I am sure you will be fine.
i am pulling like 1 GB a day and so if i drop the hotspot add-on but keep my data up it will be rather obvious.
i dont think you can with CM6 however you can with the sense based roms (Fresh, Evio, Myn's warm twopointtwo etc).
Cm6 has hotspot built in.
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CM6 has Froyo hotspot built-in, in addition to Froyo tethering. No need for Sprint/HTC bloatware.
If you are paying the $30/mo for the sprint hotspot... i can't see why sprint would have a problem with you using *any other* substitute hotspot... so long as they get their $30/mo
The Froyo hotspot is really REALLY nice in the fact that it really just acts like a wireless router (infrastructure mode, WPA etc etc etc).

wireless tether speeds vs easy tether

Just installed wireless tether and easy tether. Obviously wireless tether is nice as their is no need to plug your phone in, but I ran speed test on my lap top using both and with 4g on I got 7.23Mb/s with easy tether and only 2.49 with wireless. Just curious if other people seeing similar speeds and if there is a way to increase speed with the wireless.
Same here Fredrik, I got an 80% drop in speed using Wifi Tether. Easy tether only gave me only a 30% drop. Speedtest on my EVO was getting a constant 10Mb/s.
ok, figured out it is not my laptop wireless card because I just re ran a test on my on my lap top using wifi and got 19, so something must ave been using all of our bandwidth last night when I tested it.
nolonyc said:
Same here Fredrik, I got an 80% drop in speed using Wifi Tether. Easy tether only gave me only a 30% drop. Speedtest on my EVO was getting a constant 10Mb/s.
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OK, anyone figured out a way to speed up the wireless tethering?
which version of wireless tether? the newest is pre14
NewZJ said:
which version of wireless tether? the newest is pre14
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I am using pre 13, when I tried 14 my computer would connect but with no internet access.
also has anyone tried the sprint hot spot app and if so what speeds have they gotten using it?
I could not get internet access on pre14 either. I had to revert to a previous edition.
fredrik949 said:
I am using pre 13, when I tried 14 my computer would connect but with no internet access.
also has anyone tried the sprint hot spot app and if so what speeds have they gotten using it?
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I had the sprint hotspot feature for a month. It was awhile ago so I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was very fast especially with 4g, much faster than the wireless tether app.
l8agin said:
I had the sprint hotspot feature for a month. It was awhile ago so I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was very fast especially with 4g, much faster than the wireless tether app.
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OK then we know it's not hardware, it must be something with the wireless tether app. Hopefully they can improve on it.
I have a similar problem posted a few days ago about it. There is an issue open with the dev team about it. Issue 510 I believe.
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Is the speed better with RC1? I was seeing the same slowdown with earlier versions, but haven't had a chance to test RC1.

help if possible please...ty 4G issue.Tethering

i have 7MB speeds off of 4G, but when i tether with wireless tether app, or the stock app thats been unlocked, or pda net or anything else i have tryed, i get under 1mb download speeds...i have all the newest updated radios that came with 3.70...hope sumone has a solution or idea...have tryed the changes several ppl on here have posted but nothing changes...
no tether = 7MB down
tether = < 1MB down
You can't tether 4g yet
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swaze said:
You can't tether 4g yet
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You can on CM, at least it looks like it when I'm on 4g and turn on hotspot, unless it's actually using 3g and doesn't show it in the status bar.
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Tethering works nicely wired or wireless.
Wireless tether works well for 4g, as does wired tether. Both should be available in the market place.
For 3g tethering wireless, I use the stock hotspot app. For 3g wired, the last option in the charge menu works well - on roms where this has been enabled.
Not sure what the posts above are referring to stating that 4g tethering does not work....
gpz1100 said:
Tethering works nicely wired or wireless.
Wireless tether works well for 4g, as does wired tether. Both should be available in the market place.
For 3g tethering wireless, I use the stock hotspot app. For 3g wired, the last option in the charge menu works well - on roms where this has been enabled.
Not sure what the posts above are referring to stating that 4g tethering does not work....
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well i have been using various roms but mostly myns5 and just flashed koni elite tontite...no 4G speeds coming across tether, wired or wireless...any clues or suggestions ?
I'm not familiar with either of those. I've only played with 2 roms thus far, fresh and evio (see sig). Tethering on fresh required removing some files from the lib folder, but evio supported 3g/4g without doing anything else.
Make a backup and give it a try. I do know that unless you're paying for the hotspot feature, the sprint hotspot app will not support 4g tethering.
Btw, if replying to a directly post above, what is the point of quoting?
well i will have to try one of them then...my 3G speeds on tether are faster than when hooked up to 4G...habit on the quote...thanks for your help
My best results have been wired 4g. I'm not sure if it's the crappy wireless NIC on the pc or just the combination of multiple radios going on the evo. Best wireless speeds I see are 3-5 MB/s. Wired i've seen speeds upward of 9-12 MB/s (megabytes).
3G is usually crappy, 500-700 kbps down, under 300-400 kbps up
I am running ava and use the wireless tether. I can get 8mb down using speedtest.net on my phone but only 1.5 tethered on my lap top. There is a dramatic drop but if I didn't have 4g on that number drops dramatically. Without 4g I couldn't stream anything so I know it works but it does lose a lot of speed.
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gpz1100 said:
My best results have been wired 4g. I'm not sure if it's the crappy wireless NIC on the pc or just the combination of multiple radios going on the evo. Best wireless speeds I see are 3-5 MB/s. Wired i've seen speeds upward of 9-12 MB/s (megabytes).
3G is usually crappy, 500-700 kbps down, under 300-400 kbps up
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I agree I get similar speeds on both wireless and wired as this poster. I try to stick with wired for many reasons but mostly because if I am going to be tethered pulling 10Mbps+ (common for me at my work) then I would burn through my battery before the day was out anyway so why not plug it in.. get good speeds AND get juice!
ive noticed similar things 1-1.5 or so except that with wired pdanet seems im around 2.5-4 the one time i used it. I get 6-8 with the speedtest app on my phone. I wonder if the same would occur with the paid tether. perhaps they have some sort of throttling going on.
I was just out in woodland hills, ca and getting consistant 13 on 4g but with wifi tether sharing to a iphone it was only getting like .6 .7 megabits using the wifi tether app and the built in sprint app only works for 3g it shuts 4g off this is on mikfroyo rom.
gpz1100 said:
I'm not familiar with either of those. I've only played with 2 roms thus far, fresh and evio (see sig). Tethering on fresh required removing some files from the lib folder, but evio supported 3g/4g without doing anything else.
Make a backup and give it a try. I do know that unless you're paying for the hotspot feature, the sprint hotspot app will not support 4g tethering.
Btw, if replying to a directly post above, what is the point of quoting?
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which lib files do i remove to get the 4g speeds to actually tether.

[Q] Free wifi tether gone with new cap?

With the new hotspot cap of 5 gigs, I'm wondering if that will affect the wifi tether that us root users enjoy. I wouldn't think it would kick in since it's not already intergrated into that. So my question is, will root users using the free mobile hotspot be affected by Sprints 5gig cap?
Paloki1 said:
With the new hotspot cap of 5 gigs, I'm wondering if that will affect the wifi tether that us root users enjoy. I wouldn't think it would kick in since it's not already intergrated into that. So my question is, will root users using the free mobile hotspot be affected by Sprints 5gig cap?
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In my opinion, no.
I believe that software like easytether and wireless tether use a different way to force the phone to tether instead of the mobile hot spot resources, but someone who's really in the loop and understands the mechanics in the background of theses apps please keep me honest.
But I do know is that regardless over time if you use theses methods a lot they may catch up to you and they may send you a nasty letter or even suspend your account if they realize you've been tethering without paying. I do not recall if this has happened but I think I red something like that happening to a few people down in the androidforums.com Sprint section.
So proceed with caution if you do use this on the regular.
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megabiteg said:
In my opinion, no.
I believe that software like easytether and wireless tether use a different way to force the phone to tether instead of the mobile hot spot resources, but someone who's really in the loop and understands the mechanics in the background of theses apps please keep me honest.
But I do know is that regardless over time if you use theses methods a lot they may catch up to you and they may send you a nasty letter or even suspend your account if they realize you've been tethering without paying. I do not recall if this has happened but I think I red something like that happening to a few people down in the androidforums.com Sprint section.
So proceed with caution if you do use this on the regular.
Sent from an Epic with 4G
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I believe that they only put the cap on to cut down the excessive abuse of the tethering. How can they speed up the data service if everyone used the tether feature as their primary internet, and used tons and tons of data and slowed down the service (the slow 3G and 4G services that we always complain about). We want unlimited everything, but yet complain and wonder why data service is so slow. Who is and who is not using the wireless tether app is not their primary concern right now.
Well, I don't use massive amounts of data, I just use it if I really HAVE to. I have comcast and they give me crazy speeds so I am fine with that. I would use it on the go but at the same time, they shouldn't limit customers that use data on the phone, its unlimited, and if and when they "try" to say you have been using too much data. WELL ITS UNLIMITED so booya! I don't think its there concern how we use it as long as its through the phone and not the mobile hotspot they provide. I'm sure overtime users will abuse it and ruin it but we'll see.

[Q] Question about TMobiles new Unlimited 4G plan (Tethering)

Unlimited 4G data on T-Mobile network for accessing the web, streaming music and HD video, and downloading cool apps—as much as you want. No limits and no overages - 89.99$ a month.
Which for me is only about 5$ more. So it says its not compatible with "Smartphone Mobile Hotspot" Now I assume thats the built in stock option they lock down.. So question is, how does this effect our rooted ways of tethering and wifi hotspot making. Has anyone tried yet? Or have info about this? Thanks.
with that plan you will not be able to tether as for as i know,can they stop you?that i don't know.can they tell? not really sure,but in the past talking to tmobile they can basically tell how much you use is by there a difference in using your phone and tethering...when you tether,there more data usage....but i have the 10 gb data plan which include free tether,also if you get the 5gb plan,that also comes with free tethering...
Well I have the 2GB one atm for the cost (which is still unlimited, just slows down) but yea, orig.. they never had an app for tethering. Seems the S3 has a T-Mobile made app for tethering (Stock rom app) So Id assume using our normal root wifi tether apps.. we should be ok. Like you said, they might know the diff in the bandwidth, then again might not.. Netflix and MobiTV alone can take up alot. Not to mention Youtube in HD. I may have to try this and see what happens. Unless someone has the new plan already. I mean unlimited 4G.. True unlimited.. thats not bad at all.
I know I'm loving T-Mobile right now I'm streaming radio for a whole shift at work downloading roms and all kinds of WiFi stuff.and get this I was already was paying for the 5g data plan so when I called for them to switch me over to the unlimited 4g plan I actually saved $5 off my bill and cause I was throttled by the 5th of September it brought me right out of edge. And yes the t mobile hotspot app redirects any device connected to some T-Mobile web page. But we are good with hotspot app from the play store
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Rooted tethering still works.
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joshnichols189 said:
Rooted tethering still works.
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Thanks,
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Thanks! Great to know. I think paying 10$ more a month for the "ability" (even if not used) for TRUE unlimited is worth it. Lock in and grandfather before they change their mind. Mobile Netflix + Hdmi = Win for one example of travel use.
Do have one stupid question. Anyone know on the Official hotspot app use. If all ports are enabled? Or is it still 80 and 8080 only? Thats the only thing I could see a different on. TMO hotspot might give you more ports access. However I am unsure.
I highly doubt the T-Mobile hotspot is any better than something you can find in the market And if it's just hotspot through the settings, it's the exact same thing.
Tho if I am not mistaken... Wasnt most of the rooted wifi tether apps an "Ad-Hoc" connection vs "Infrastructure" mode? Granted computers and ios seem to handle that fine. However items like PSP, DS, and other consoles didnt like ad-hoc internet connections. Or is that different now? (I ask cause my tablet seems to host in infrastructure mode, while my G1 on its tether app did like an adhoc form)

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