ok soo i dropped my Tilt 2 from a standing point (which is about 5 and a half feet since im 5'9) with the phones keyboard open and screens tilted, whats funny is that no battery fell out or anything, it just shuts off, i had to turn it back on.
when i shaked the phone i heard a slight rattle and i reckon its from the Flex Cable from the LCD screen, the rattle stops when i have my Tilt 2s keyboard open, but when i tilt the screen i can hear it slightly...is that normal?
also what is going to aggravate me for the rest of the time im going to own this phone is that when im using the phone's software keyboard on portrait at say like a 15 degree angle i can hear taps which is quite annoying but if i hold it at a 45 degree angle it stops, i turned the phone to the side i notice a gap, not a big one and not really noticeable but id say its roughly .5mm thick, i push the screen down and the gap gets smaller, is normal as well?
plz let me know thnx a lot
short answer.... no.... not normal. You knocked something loose inside hence the rattle, WHICH you probably already knew The gap, also not normal. Well wait.. I should correct myself. This is all probably totally normal for people who have dropped their phone. You're lucky you didn't crack your screen or do more damage and the phone's still usable!
Aaron McCarthy said:
short answer.... no.... not normal. You knocked something loose inside hence the rattle, WHICH you probably already knew The gap, also not normal. Well wait.. I should correct myself. This is all probably totally normal for people who have dropped their phone. You're lucky you didn't crack your screen or do more damage and the phone's still usable!
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hmm, well i talked to one Tilt 2 owner and he said he has that rattle and he hasnt dropped it? but like i mentioned, the rattle must be coming from that Flex cable that goes between the motherboard and the LCD screen....
No rattle and no gap on mine, but I've only had it 5 days. Give me time.
I have rattle too, but i think its the G-Sensor !
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I have rattle too, but i think its the G-Sensor !
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i did a couple of searches on PPC and some say its a normal thing especially in the tilted position? http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=87452 at least im not the only one! i just have OCD xD
heres a video of the screen problem im having
but its not as worse as his but you guys get the point
I just dropped my phone yesterday with keyboard out and tilted and I got a similar problem to this. My screen only has a gap when I pull it up, which I wasn't able to do before, but the screen slide is now about 1 or 2 cm's to the left causing it not to line up with the keyboard slide. Somewhat aggravating, but totally unnoticable unless your holding the phone. I don't get any rattle though...
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I just dropped my phone yesterday with keyboard out and tilted and I got a similar problem to this. My screen only has a gap when I pull it up, which I wasn't able to do before, but the screen slide is now about 1 or 2 cm's to the left causing it not to line up with the keyboard slide. Somewhat aggravating, but totally unnoticable unless your holding the phone. I don't get any rattle though...
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hmm
well if i were to dismantle the phone and repair the little bridge that goes across the back of the LCD screen would that solve the issue? because it seems when i push on it it seems to fill a gap but idk if thats what causing the whole screen and kb issue but im going to do it when i have the chance
I have a tilt and mines exacly like the one in the video with the vary small gap and the screen wobble, I always assumed it was normal, mine dosent rattle though
that little gap and the screen wobble.
it just because is got movable parts, look at the screen hinges if i can call them that.
its the reason i didnt want to get mine, ive always chose candy bar phones so i dont worry about that.
but i did get me a tilt 2 and have dropped it too, i also think my wobbly screen started after i dropped it, but ive had it a year, since it first came out. the only thing i hate reall bad about this phone it the lack of a headphone jack I HATE THAT WITH A PASSION.
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Ok, now when I tilt the screen of my touch pro2 up, it has a slight wobble (in the direction the screen tilts, not sideways). Is it normal for a tilt screen device to have this "freeplay" from new?
Hi All
I have the same problem. My screen wobbles too. min 5-7mm "freeplay".
See my post yesterday
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524432
Just had blokey on from the company saying it was normal for the TP2. I must have had a good 4-5mm of play when it was tilted which seemed odd as my Kaiser was (and still is) totally solid with no play at tilt.
It would be really useful if people could post to say whether they have any 'freeplay' or not when tilted.
Thanks
John
yes freeplay here about 10m i would say its very loose
combat goofwing said:
yes freeplay here about 10m i would say its very loose
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even 10mm is super loose
i think becoz it use different mechanism.
Have logged a call with HTC supprt to get the definitive answer, to wobble or not to wobble. Will update this post when I get a reply
Sent my unit back today and hope to get a replacement soon.
There was something seriously wrong with my unit.
See Pictures uploaded
http://www.noelsolutions.com/IMG_7673.JPG
http://www.noelsolutions.com/IMG_7675.JPG
tiinking of sending mine back to be replaced not only does it wobble in tilt but with the keyboard closed if i holed the phone flat of my hand and put slight pressure on the top left corner the screen slide about up just on one side is this normel so the screen can look off set
mine is loose but that is normal as you can't have the screen too rigid in tilt position. also its on hinges and that will have a part to play with the wobble. remember the screen is attached to the body by a ribbon which needs the screen to have that bit of play to take tension off the ribbon. when in tilt position look at the back of screen you will see the black ribbon. wobble the screen and you will see the kink in the ribbon when wobbling. now imagine having a really taut screen and the pressure that would be exerted on that ribbon. wobble is acceptable as it plays an important role! thats my opinion. i have a kaiser/tytn 2 and the screen is very wobbly and loose.
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mine is loose but that is normal as you can't have the screen too rigid in tilt position. also its on hinges and that will have a part to play with the wobble. remember the screen is attached to the body by a ribbon which needs the screen to have that bit of play to take tension off the ribbon. when in tilt position look at the back of screen you will see the black ribbon. wobble the screen and you will see the kink in the ribbon when wobbling. now imagine having a really taut screen and the pressure that would be exerted on that ribbon. wobble is acceptable as it plays an important role! thats my opinion. i have a kaiser/tytn 2 and the screen is very wobbly and loose.
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I second that Shingers,
My Kaiser became very loose after about one year.
The Rhodium looks to have a much more robust design though and yes there should be some amount of free play.
Time will tell how good the redisgn of the tilt mechanism is though.
Cheers,
Beasty
shingers5 said:
mine is loose but that is normal as you can't have the screen too rigid in tilt position. also its on hinges and that will have a part to play with the wobble. remember the screen is attached to the body by a ribbon which needs the screen to have that bit of play to take tension off the ribbon. when in tilt position look at the back of screen you will see the black ribbon. wobble the screen and you will see the kink in the ribbon when wobbling. now imagine having a really taut screen and the pressure that would be exerted on that ribbon. wobble is acceptable as it plays an important role! thats my opinion. i have a kaiser/tytn 2 and the screen is very wobbly and loose.
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Yeah my partners one has same things as you mention but it does not look uneven like mine.
Here is my partners
http://www.noelsolutions.com/diamondpro2.JPG
Mine
http://www.noelsolutions.com/IMG_7678.JPG
My Hermes has the same wobble since the first time I got it. 2,5 years later, it's still working great. Don't think it's a lot to worry about. or the people who don't have the wobble, it probably will be there in time.
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Yeah my partners one has same things as you mention but it does not look uneven like mine.
Here is my partners
http://www.noelsolutions.com/diamondpro2.JPG
Mine
http://www.noelsolutions.com/IMG_7678.JPG
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yeah yours defo looks like one of the hinges are loose. that needs to go back defo. might just need tightening but i'd request a replacement if i were you! good luck with that
thanks for the input guys,
John, let us know what's the official position on this. Apart from the wobble device is working fine so I decided to keep it, it's not a deal breaker for me - i operate it while flat anyway and it stays tilted when put on the desk.
The looseness is like, when you tilt it and shake back and forward slowly, it eventually goes down in 3 shakes. Using the touchscreen when tilted is impossible unless you have a finger behind it.
I don't know, all the reviews are praising the stiff tilting mechanism of TP2 and online videos show people applying a bit of pressure on the device to tilt the screen, mine is not like that, that's why I started the thread.
It did say it's the first batch here in UK on the MFDirect website, so could be an early flawed version.
Will do, still waiting to hear. Just think its a bit disapointing if this is a part of the design as (and I really don't want to take anything away from the brilliance of everything else about the phone & how much people, including me seem to love it) it makes it feel, well cheap.....which as you say was the opposite of the reviews the phone has got from everywhere else.
Maybe mine was a lot looser than others have experienced? maybe I'm just a fussy ba***rd, don't know?
MPD won't replace it as they say it is normal, I'm waiting for it to come back then I'll send another email with a couple of snaps/video to HTC to get the definitive view. Will keep you up to date.
And waht about this,it was a little hard for me to explain it corrctly,so i'v take a picture
is it normale ?
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4057/tp2a.jpg
yes i think it is. Its the part that slide's out and also can be tilted. That means that it isn't attached to the bottom of the device and i guess that is wat causes the problem. I also have that problem a bit.
When i slide the device out and NOT tilt it it looks perfectly straight, but when i tilt the screen it wobble's a bit but i guess thats normal to..
same problem ..... same wobble .... still i love it
Thanks guys so i will love more my tp2
The definitive view part 1
Hi all
HTC have replied to my first query. Posted below. Basically there should be no looseness/wobble. I'll speak to them and MPDirect and see what happens next.
'Thank you so much for contacting HTC Technical Support Team.
Regarding your request, kindly note that the symptom you stated (the screen when tilted was loose on its hinges and wobbled back and forth by a few milimetres ) is not a normal symptom. the Screen should be firmly in place.
For further assistance please don't hesitate to contact us on our hotline < 0845 890 0079 > or visit our website at www.htc.com .
Respects & Regards,
HTC Technical Support Team.
First off, I just got my tilt2 from stores yesterday, and I must say, I love it so much! Just got a few concerns...
For those of you who have the tilt2, when the screen is tilted all the way up, is there a "looseness" of about 2-3 degrees? Meaning, theres just a small portion of the tilt2 at its most "tilted moment," so to speak, that it just wiggles back and forth for about2-3 degrees? It's not too big of a deal really as the current tilting of the tilt2 seems MUCH more sturdy (and it will probably last much longer holding its tilt feature), but I want to know if its a physical defect on my current tilt2, or that's just how its made for whatever reason.
Also, I am quite worried about how much looser the top screen portion of the tilt2 is from the bottom keyboard when closed all the way as compared to my original tilt. If I were to slightly use my hands to grab each separate part and pull them apart gently, it is easy to see that it easily lifts, and if I pulled any harder, I can almost break those halves apart, whereas my first tilt BARELY budged even after 2 years of use. Basically, everything about the tilt2 is better, but it seems like it won't be able to take much of a beating as compared to the tilt1.
Just concerned about inevitable wear-n-tear, and its effects itll have in the long run, or couple of months even. Thanks in advance for future input!
Regards,
K
The 2-3 degrees of wobble is normal from what I've read. Mine has it too. It's slightly unfortunate, but doesn't really cause any practical problems.
I have read at least one report of a screen that can be separated from the body by a lot when closed. He said he could fit 15 (I think) playing cards in there, which mine most certainly could not fit. I never had a tilting phone before to compare to, but I am satisfied with my closed gap, which only goes up to about 1mm with light separating pressure. If your gap is much larger than that, it may be one of the less well attached screens.
I have the same problem with my tilt 2. Its abit annoying when you press in the screen on the left side of the device in portrait mode with the keyboard closed and the screen pushes in because of the gap but I don't beleive its a defect. I have seen some sturdier as my buddy's tilt 2 have zero play but his keyboard is hitting the bottom of the device and has scratched some keys so I would take mine any day. Plus I don't wanna chance it and take it back for an exchange as what you get may be worse.. IE - Dead pixel, screen QTY, keyboard lights, an even more loose slider, etc, etc.
enisoc said:
The 2-3 degrees of wobble is normal from what I've read. Mine has it too. It's slightly unfortunate, but doesn't really cause any practical problems.
I have read at least one report of a screen that can be separated from the body by a lot when closed. He said he could fit 15 (I think) playing cards in there, which mine most certainly could not fit. I never had a tilting phone before to compare to, but I am satisfied with my closed gap, which only goes up to about 1mm with light separating pressure. If your gap is much larger than that, it may be one of the less well attached screens.
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Thanks for your reply, makes me feel at ease. Also, I think you've misunderstood, my gap is as small as you say, and from your words, it must be normal. It's when I intentionally put pressure on the screen and keyboard (not that I would do that on a normal basis, just for initial inspection purposes) that makes the gap wider. Though, I guess with a tilting screen like this, theres less tightness between the screen and keyboard. But nonetheless, all is normal. I was only concerned with those when I purposely applied my own force. I was not use to how much more delicate this machine, the tilt2, is as compared to my brick of a tilt1.
Regards,
K
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I have the same problem with my tilt 2. Its abit annoying when you press in the screen on the left side of the device in portrait mode with the keyboard closed and the screen pushes in because of the gap but I don't beleive its a defect. I have seen some sturdier as my buddy's tilt 2 have zero play but his keyboard is hitting the bottom of the device and has scratched some keys so I would take mine any day. Plus I don't wanna chance it and take it back for an exchange as what you get may be worse.. IE - Dead pixel, screen QTY, keyboard lights, an even more loose slider, etc, etc.
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Yes, that was one of my que's from the start.
It was when the whole device was closed and I was playing with the touch screen, you could feel the screen go down a bit as I applied pressure to it. It was almost like if i pressed any harder, the bottom of the screen would just keep hitting the keyboard. But hey, glad to see that this seems to be a normal thing.
Regards,
K
PS. Oh and yes, I noticed it when I tapped on the left side of the screen as well.
I have a screen problem.
All over the screen it seems that there is a very thin strip of rubber or something.
On the right hand side, just below half way it seems that this has been pushed towards the greyish thing on the outside.
And it has been pushed up a little.
So i have put my phone sideways and there is a little dink which is where it has been pushed up.
Now you can see the dust is getting in the rubber thing.
And if you just roll your finger over the edge of the screen you can feel it.
Is there anything I can do about this?
you could perhaps describe it a little better, maybe take some photos..
I can not take a photo at the moment.
http://www.navigadget.com/wp-content/postimages/2010/02/htc-desire.jpg
The image shows three phones, but the one on the right, of it showing sideways.
Imagine a bump on the black thing, where the screen is.
So instead of being flat and smooth it is not!
sounds like a manufacturing issue, little hard to suggest things you could try. Might have to be a returns mission..
Sounds like you have dropped it or more likely it was damaged in transit from China.
Get it replaced.
I know that I have not dropped it.
I have been so careful that I put it back in the box when I am charging it lol.
It is always on a clean surface.
When I get a new device I am always careful. lol
It is like a baby! I suspect a lot of you are careful too!
I have only taken it out my house once or twice and that was when I went to work!
To replace it who would I have to ring.
Sorry i am a complete noob ... I am only 18!
Just to let you guys know,
I just rang up T-Mobile and got this very helpful person who will replace my phone!
She was very helpful and it was no nonsense!
She mainly did it because of my battery life and partly due to the screen!
I have had my VZW TP2 for a while now, and while I try to keep it scratch free it has had a bumpo and bruise before.
Yesterday is fell while I was stepping out of my car. I picked it up, brushed it off, and got angry when I saw a small knick, maybe 2mm long, in the screen. Angrily I turned the screen off and put it back in my pocket.
About an hour later I went to use the phone, and to my suprise, no touchscreen! LCD is fine, no distortion or damage what-so-ever.
Is it possible for such a small knick to completely trash the touchscreen?
I have tried multiple resets and cannot get it to recognize anything.
Short of replacing the screen and/or digitizer, anything I can do?
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I have had my VZW TP2 for a while now, and while I try to keep it scratch free it has had a bumpo and bruise before.
Yesterday is fell while I was stepping out of my car. I picked it up, brushed it off, and got angry when I saw a small knick, maybe 2mm long, in the screen. Angrily I turned the screen off and put it back in my pocket.
About an hour later I went to use the phone, and to my suprise, no touchscreen! LCD is fine, no distortion or damage what-so-ever.
Is it possible for such a small knick to completely trash the touchscreen?
I have tried multiple resets and cannot get it to recognize anything.
Short of replacing the screen and/or digitizer, anything I can do?
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Not sure if I would calling dropping the phone a few feet from up in the air onto what I can only assume was concrete and not pillows a small "kick"
It sounds like your digitizer is pooched. If your phones under warranty just sent it away to get fixed. It shouldnt shake loose like that I dont think. I know things happen and theres nothing you can do about it when it does. With my touch pro I had a silicone case for it I dropped it so much.. And by dropped it I mean like it would fly 5 feet or more and then the back plate would shoot off and the battery would fly out... not good to do once let alone multiple times! I was sick of my silicone case (which I got after dropping the phone probably a good 10 or more times) so I took it off, a week later I was out on my back patio and had my phone in my shirt pocket. I was on my knees and bent over to pick up something and it slid out. Fell maybe a foot and I picked it up and there was a crack across the screen.. Son of a B$%^&H!
Just happened to land on the corner perfect I guess... Regardless point of that story is I wouldnt call the phone fragile by any means. These things are beasts! But as we know... stuff happens.
Hope it works out for you.
Last night while using the phone I noticed this slight clicking sound from the bottom right corner of the screen (touch-sensitive panel). So I kept pressing it and I wasn't hallucinating, its there. Also figured the sound also comes when I press the bottom right or bottom center edge of the phone. The creaking sound isn't loud but its noticeable when I hold the phone in specific angles and while typing if haptic feedback is on, I think the vibration also makes it happen(weird)
So except for this my HOX is fine and am wondering if I should get it changed.
Are there any long term effects to this? I'm starting to just ignore the sound and trying not to make it happen purposely
Depends, does it make the sound when you're using it normally? If it does I would consider swapping it, although you said everything else was fine.
If on the other hand, it makes the sound if you hold it in a certain way and push unusually hard then I would say stop intentionally pushing it in a weird way and use it properly.
People have been complaining about "screen flex" along the side of the phone when they push on the edge and run their fingers along the side. Want to get rid of the screen flex when you push the edge of your phone and move your finger along it? STOP PUSHING THE EDGE OF YOUR PHONE!!!
Just remember that some phones have had screen flickering, yellow marks and even scratches under the screen, you may not be as lucky as your were the first time if you choose to swap it.
what you described is not flex even, most mobile devices have a creak some where
Flex should mean the screen is literally loose to warrant an exchange
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Depends, does it make the sound when you're using it normally? If it does I would consider swapping it, although you said everything else was fine.
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The only time I've noticed this sound while using the phone is during haptic feedback from typing on the keyboard. I switched haptic feedback off to save battery and for this 'problem'
If on the other hand, it makes the sound if you hold it in a certain way and push unusually hard then I would say stop intentionally pushing it in a weird way and use it properly.
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I did reduce pushing it intentionally since last night after figuring it might mess it up more.
People have been complaining about "screen flex" along the side of the phone when they push on the edge and run their fingers along the side. Want to get rid of the screen flex when you push the edge of your phone and move your finger along it? STOP PUSHING THE EDGE OF YOUR PHONE!!!
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Yea after I got mind-f***ed I did press the edge a lot to be sure.(we humans ...) But now am controlling myself to not press the edge and use it normally.
Just remember that some phones have had screen flickering, yellow marks and even scratches under the screen, you may not be as lucky as your were the first time if you choose to swap it.
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Exactly why am thinking hard if I should get mine replaced. Another reason being I'll be leaving UAE(got the phone here) for good in a week and if by chance I do get a defective unit I'll waste a lot of time.
I'm not gonna play around with the edge anymore haha.
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what you described is not flex even, most mobile devices have a creak some where
Flex should mean the screen is literally loose to warrant an exchange
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Yes you're right a lot of electronics and gadgets have creaking parts. Mostly the ones made outa plastic though. Does your HOX creak too?
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Yes you're right a lot of electronics and gadgets have creaking parts. Mostly the ones made outa plastic though. Does your HOX creak too?
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my first flexed bad (soft one pressure, loose) on the left side, although i loved it so much because it had the much more dense yellowish sharp screen
second hox had a bad coating and slight flex on the left side, also hot pixels
third HOX my current is perfect, the screen is rigid on all sides expecially left and right, but it creaks if its around 50degree hot on two out of the four corners, very very slight creaks and only happens if it test it intentionally, it has the acer white screen with visible pixel grid, so the first hox screen i miss so much
im saying don't replace for a little reason bro it will be a bumpy ride, if the screen is loose then ok, you can see it by testing for light bleed in a dark room or if its physically moving
I think my screen is perfect. I can't figure how you're suggesting I test it, but pressing along the edges with slight pressure doesn't cause any change in the screen. The pixels are all good and no flickering. I think its a yellowish screen and not the bluish one.
How do you find out what LCD brand is on your HOX?
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I think my screen is perfect. I can't figure how you're suggesting I test it, but pressing along the edges with slight pressure doesn't cause any change in the screen. The pixels are all good and no flickering. I think its a yellowish screen and not the bluish one.
How do you find out what LCD brand is on your HOX?
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there is a guide somewhere on how to check the LCD
anyway it sounds perfect dont get rid of it!
Hmm I don't think I'll get it changed, I love it too much . Just have to get used to the occasional/random creak/click sounds from the device.