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htc hd2 touchflo on at&t tilt2

I am a little new to XDA...but I cant really find a straight answer to a question I have.
I just purchased the tilt2...love it. Unfortunately, I watched videos on the new hd2, and while I don't want the phone....gotta have my keyboard....I think a couple of the touchflo tabs make MUCH more sense.
So basically, I am wondering if cooks on here feel that at some point they will be able to offer some of those features in .cab files?
I dont want a whole new rom, I tried that on my original tilt...and it just never worked perfect, gps problems, some menus didnt look right. I really just want the phone to work perfectly like at&t intended...but with the new contacts tab, email tab, and maybe the new home screen that allows weather backgrounds and I believe allows a couple contacts straight on it.
Anyway...based on how people have been able to pull apart software for these phones...does this sound possible? or is touchflo simply too complicated to only pull parts of it out? I wouldnt want to simply entirely replace my at&t tilt 2 touchflo version with the hd2 version because I have heard that you would lose landscape mode for touchflo?
Anyway...just wondering if I can hope for this...or if I simply need to accept what I have until the touch pro 3 comes out?
p.s. I am assuming I would need that new version for what I wanted..unless hacks are possible? Basically I love the new email tab that allows you to read your emails right from there instead of showing them in an envelope.
I like the new contacts tab much better....more functional than that rotating carousel thing.
New today screen is nice with the weather background...and I like the idea of contacts on that screen.

No, you aren't going be able to change your TF3D with a simple .cab file.
It would require the flashing of a new ROM.
the HD2 'Sense' interface is Manila 2.5 and is in many ROMs over at the development section. Since Manila 2.5 is only designed for the HD2, when using the interface there is no landscape support for when the keyboard is slid out.
No one in xda-deveolopers has shown the ability to be able to take some features from Manila 2.1 and mix them with 2.5. If they could, I'm sure HTC would hire them in a heartbeat. HTC has an entire team of paid workers that create the Manilas. It takes time and skill and LOTS of work.
I would recommend just flashing a good Manila 2.1 ROM. Get rid of your AT&T bloatware. NGRZ's Photon ROM (in my signature) is a good place to start. It is very fast, stable, and comes preloaded with a ton of useful apps.
You will have less problems with his ROM than AT&T's stock ROM.

skyler17 said:
No, you aren't going be able to change your TF3D with a simple .cab file.
It would require the flashing of a new ROM.
the HD2 'Sense' interface is Manila 2.5 and is in many ROMs over at the development section. Since Manila 2.5 is only designed for the HD2, when using the interface there is no landscape support for when the keyboard is slid out.
No one in xda-deveolopers has shown the ability to be able to take some features from Manila 2.1 and mix them with 2.5. If they could, I'm sure HTC would hire them in a heartbeat. HTC has an entire team of paid workers that create the Manilas. It takes time and skill and LOTS of work.
I would recommend just flashing a good Manila 2.1 ROM. Get rid of your AT&T bloatware. NGRZ's Photon ROM (in my signature) is a good place to start. It is very fast, stable, and comes preloaded with a ton of useful apps.
You will have less problems with his ROM than AT&T's stock ROM.
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Thank you for the response...I figured that was the case.
So let me ask you...I am very nervous about flashing the ROM on my brand new expensive phone. My main concerns:
1. Is their an easy way to go back to the stock setup?
2. When i flashed my first tilt, I had radio problems that never really got fixed
3. What advantage does that ROM have over the stock...other than space? I find the stock ROM has pretty decent speed honestly
4. My main concern: I don't like losing any of the functionality of the stock ROM...I actually like the default ATT opera page, etc.
5. If I could find a ROM that would simply remove things like the ATT mall, but otherwise leave everything else stock..and work just as good as stock...gps, opera, keyboard mapping, etc. I would do it. Oh...I wouldnt mind having custom wallpaper on all tabs.

acolona said:
Thank you for the response...I figured that was the case.
So let me ask you...I am very nervous about flashing the ROM on my brand new expensive phone. My main concerns:
1. Is their an easy way to go back to the stock setup?
2. When i flashed my first tilt, I had radio problems that never really got fixed
3. What advantage does that ROM have over the stock...other than space? I find the stock ROM has pretty decent speed honestly
4. My main concern: I don't like losing any of the functionality of the stock ROM...I actually like the default ATT opera page, etc.
5. If I could find a ROM that would simply remove things like the ATT mall, but otherwise leave everything else stock..and work just as good as stock...gps, opera, keyboard mapping, etc. I would do it. Oh...I wouldnt mind having custom wallpaper on all tabs.
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Here's some feedback:
1. Right now, no -- since the Tilt2 has just been released, many folks are waiting for someone to successfully dump the stock ROM in case we need to go back.
2. Many of the custom ROMs do not include a new radio -- you'll just have to read up and decide which ones you like.
3. Every custom ROM has a different advantage. In some cases its visual, in other cases speed, stability, and some are just highly experimental with features taken from other phones.
4/5. Again since the Tilt2 is so new, give it a little time. Usually there are some chefs who feel the same way you do and will use a stock ROM and just make minor tweaks like taking out some unnecessary bloat and adding some useful programs.
I would recommend if the stock ROM is working ok for you, to stick with it for the time being until some more ATT specific ROMs start getting developed and you find one that will suit your individual needs.

pinoymutt said:
Here's some feedback:
1. Right now, no -- since the Tilt2 has just been released, many folks are waiting for someone to successfully dump the stock ROM in case we need to go back.
2. Many of the custom ROMs do not include a new radio -- you'll just have to read up and decide which ones you like.
3. Every custom ROM has a different advantage. In some cases its visual, in other cases speed, stability, and some are just highly experimental with features taken from other phones.
4/5. Again since the Tilt2 is so new, give it a little time. Usually there are some chefs who feel the same way you do and will use a stock ROM and just make minor tweaks like taking out some unnecessary bloat and adding some useful programs.
I would recommend if the stock ROM is working ok for you, to stick with it for the time being until some more ATT specific ROMs start getting developed and you find one that will suit your individual needs.
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4/5. Perfect, thats a great answer for me. I think that's what I really want is a stock ROM with some tweaks for speed and bloat.
A. Does a stock tweaked ROM usually mean I dont need to worry about fiddling with radios? and the GPS and stuff works just like stock?
B. Any specific ROM chefs that you know of that I should follow that typically do these types of ROMs?
oh..this is unrelated, but does anyone know why I am having issues running software that seems to work fine on other touch pro 2's...I keep getting errors about .net versions being wrong. I tried installing the .net compact package from Microsoft..but it just says it fails during install. This is kind of a pain because I can't get some really common apps to install.

Post what YOU did to make your Touch Pro 2 GREAT

I'm about to give up on this phone. It constantly lags/glitches/resets in messaging, has all kinds of issues with multitasking, and is extremely slow and unreliable.
ANYONE out there that has a fully functioning messaging/internet/calling machine out there - please post what you did from start to finish to create a great phone.
Thank you.
This is my last attempt - been terrible since "upgrading" from AT&T Tilt

I see from your sig that you're using a ROM with Sense 2.5 which may be the source of your problems.
If you want to read my story, keep going. Otherwise, my tip is to "downgrade" to official WinMo 6.1 ROM.
Here's my story:
When I bought the device, I was pleasantly happy with the stock ROM which has WinMo 6.1 and the version of TouchFlo3D that doesn't have the weather in the Home tab.
The 1st ROM I flashed was the official HTC released WinMo 6.5 ROM. Huge mistake. Everything worked but just seemed slower. I've since tried multiple cooked ROMs over the months. They were all faster than the official WinMo 6.5 ROM but there was always a glitch here and there. Often, it was minor enough to be suitable for daily use.
But then I decided recently to switch back to my stock WinMo 6.1 ROM just for the heck of it. It's so much faster and smoother. And everything just works.
Positives of the original WinMo 6.1 ROM over others:
1. Multitasking - Under normal usage, I've never had an application autokill because RAM was running out. This is the case even with Push-Internet enabled. With other ROMs, I can almost never run Opera, Streaming Media, and MSN Messenger at the same time. One of them will certainly autokill.
2. TouchFlo3D smoothness - There's no stuttering and drops in framerates when moving the slider. With other ROMs, (especially Sense2.5) it's never as smooth.
Drawbacks of the original WinMo6.1 ROM over others:
1. Lockscreen - The stock lockscreen of WinMo 6.5 is much more elegant and useful than that of WinMo 6.1
2. TouchFlo3D - It has since been replaced by newer versions with more functionality and eyecandy. But to be honest, the only thing I miss is the weather forecast on the Home tab.
3. Overall finger friendliness in the OS - Dropdown menus and checkboxes are all better in WinMo 6.5.

Its up to you if you want to move back to 6.1....but i hated 6.1... i had more problems with it
With windows 6.1... i had problems with my bluetooth... when i have the bluetooth on my ear for 10 minutes without a call... i lose connection,, i get "lost connection"
With windows 6.5.... the problem was solved... didnt have no bluetooth problems anymore

I want to love my TP2 but ever since I upgraded my OS to 6.5 and other cooked ROM's, I've had issues. WM 6.5 seems to cause my TP 2 either go into standby of death (cant come out of standby) or if and when it eventually decides to come out of it, the screen is frozen.
With cooked ROMS, I have to constantly flash different ROM's in hopes of finding one that is stable and runs smoothly. I have until the 5th of March to either get a replacement TP2 with 6.1 WM running on it or find a cooked ROM that features stability and smoothness.

I found the EnergyROM series to be quite stable and fast for me. Only drawback is you should get the Titanium version instead of the Sense/Manila version. Much much faster.
I have a Tilt2, and the stock 6.5 ROM was slower than molasses. Dunno if you can downgrade the Tilt2 to 6.1.

Your issue is exactly why I do not switch to the cooked ROMs until they are very mature for my particular device. The unintended consequences and insurmountable little glitches drive you crazy. There are great ROMs out there, but look at each ROMs thread and you will see that they all have their issues.
I have the Tilt 2 with stock 6.5. I feel pretty certain my setup and speed can smoke any other U.S smartphone that you would trade in for. First I removed all of the bloat with CrudScraper and manual methods. Next I turned off all TouchFlo. This is the single biggest improvement to my device's performance. TF takes up big time resources and in my opinion is one of the worst interfaces available for WM. I also turn off all Today screen plugins. I use Mobile Shell which is the one big trade off...it is awesome, but it too is a huge resource hog. Install Manila NoPushInternet, get rid of Opera 9. Install SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy. Then become very adept at using the Rhodium Keyboard controller. Install something like Memmaid and schedule daily cleans of the cache files and temp folders. Install something like SKSchema that allows you to schedule soft resets overnight while you sleep. I recommend loading Pnonex 2.2 or Inesoft Phone to add incredible functionality to your phone with contacts/favorites/profiles. Stay in Edge as much as possible. Only switch to 3G when you need to surf or download. Except for the extremely long reset time, my device smokes my brother's Moto Android and my other bros iPhone. I have no issues with freezes, connecting to internet, not getting notifications and many of the other issues I hear about. These issues are almost always related to a cooked ROM or an unstable 3rd party app. Don't get me wrong, the stock ROM could have been soooo much better. But I will match my functionality and stability against any cooked ROM here. Bottom line is, to each his own.

Slow down, notice the subtle nuances then decide
I went from my Wizard to first a Cliq then a Behold 2 before realizing that I am a WinMo girl and going with my first instinct and getting my TP2 (all within my buyers remorse time). I had a stock 6.1 and then "upgraded" to first a stock 6.5, then to cooked variations.
I went back to my stock 6.1
I removed most bloat, added a few updated programs, used Advanced Config to tweak things. My rom doesn't have the pretty Home page with the weather (which frankly is the ONLY thing I miss), but I can go roughly 36 hours with very heavy usage and up to almost 3 days with normal to light usage. It is stable and fast. I have no internet issues, no BT issues, no wifi issues. I do not use email on my phone so I don't know if there is any issue or not, but I do rely heavily on GPS and have had no problems.
I did add some cab files that made little tweaks, like the one that gives me a snooze option on my stock alarm. I did upgrade my Opera to 10 from the stock 9. I use TCPMP as my media player, and removed most of the tab options--keeping only Home, Calendar, Weather, Programs, Settings. I changed my splash screen to a custom one I made, and switched my wallpaper...but other than those minor things, it is a stock rom and I am happy with it.
There will always be a debate over 6.1 vs 6.5 versions...I prefer stability and speed to eye candy, so for me 6.1 wins. I felt 6.5 was like going to Vista. Sure it was prettier, but the "improvements" just didn't feel like an improvement to me.
The best thing to do while you are still in the buyers remorse period is to go stock, add some tweaks and feel it out. From that you can decide if you are a 6.1 person or a 6.5 person. You will also get a basic feel for the device and what it is capable of. Many cooked roms here are great, but as with anything cooked, it is a matter of taste. Perhaps you haven't found your right flavor yet. But if you keep blowing through roms, you aren't getting the full TP2 experience.
Here's an analogy--I was just in Vegas, but this was the first time I really SAW Vegas. There is an old Vegas (6.1 rom) and a new Vegas (6.5 variations). I enjoyed the buffets and shows at old Vegas, but loved the lights and sparkle of new Vegas. You won't know what works for you if you don't check it out individually and linger for a bit. Much like my stay in Vegas, if I blew through it (as you seem to be going through roms), all the subtle nuances would be missed.
THERE ARE WAYS TO TWEAK THE DEVICE. Maybe you just aren't feeling WinMo and need to move to a Droid...some people are like that (I'm not one of those people). As far as a WinMo device goes though, this one is rock solid.

akashastrega said it best
I agree with akashastrega above. Each user has his/her own needs.
I am a power business user of my phone. I use it all day every day for email, calendar, etc. I do not use it as a music player.
I am on Ark's 6.5 ROM (a couple builds ago). It is stable and I have it tweaked to my liking.
I would definitely suggest looking around at the ROMs to find one you like. Some are more sparkly than others and some are more stable than others. Once you find a ROM, decide what tweaks you want/need. And if you are having any issues, serach for solutions.

Just got my Tilt2 and so far have disabled TF3D and added some cabs. Seems to work great. Havent had problems with freezes or anything. Disabling TF3D really made a huge difference and I reallllly like this phone compared to the Fuze I used to have.

Disable TF3D.
Add PocketBreeze, PhoneAlarm and PocketWeather.
Happy camper.

Flash DeepShining Rom and enjoy. Fast, stable and AWESOME.

After noticing that HTC had posted the Tilt2 shipped ROM here:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/
http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/HTC_Tilt2_ATT/HTCTilt2ATTOriginalShipROM.exe
I decided to check if they had done the same for the T-Mobile TP2, and of course it was not there. Checked on their forums and posted on this thread to try and request it so that it would be available to anyone who preferred the 6.1 ROM over the 6.5 upgrade.
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/windows-phone/f/34/t/215.aspx
Maybe they would be more willing to post this as well if there was enough demand for it.

Zylograth said:
After noticing that HTC had posted the Tilt2 shipped ROM here:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/
http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/HTC_Tilt2_ATT/HTCTilt2ATTOriginalShipROM.exe
I decided to check if they had done the same for the T-Mobile TP2, and of course it was not there. Checked on their forums and posted on this thread to try and request it so that it would be available to anyone who preferred the 6.1 ROM over the 6.5 upgrade.
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/windows-phone/f/34/t/215.aspx
Maybe they would be more willing to post this as well if there was enough demand for it.
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cdguider managed to extract the stock 6.1 TMO US ROM, minus the radio anyway (which is still available separately), you can find it and the info in THIS thread

ChasDun said:
Your issue is exactly why I do not switch to the cooked ROMs until they are very mature for my particular device. The unintended consequences and insurmountable little glitches drive you crazy. There are great ROMs out there, but look at each ROMs thread and you will see that they all have their issues.
I have the Tilt 2 with stock 6.5. I feel pretty certain my setup and speed can smoke any other U.S smartphone that you would trade in for. First I removed all of the bloat with CrudScraper and manual methods. Next I turned off all TouchFlo. This is the single biggest improvement to my device's performance. TF takes up big time resources and in my opinion is one of the worst interfaces available for WM. I also turn off all Today screen plugins. I use Mobile Shell which is the one big trade off...it is awesome, but it too is a huge resource hog. Install Manila NoPushInternet, get rid of Opera 9. Install SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy. Then become very adept at using the Rhodium Keyboard controller. Install something like Memmaid and schedule daily cleans of the cache files and temp folders. Install something like SKSchema that allows you to schedule soft resets overnight while you sleep. I recommend loading Pnonex 2.2 or Inesoft Phone to add incredible functionality to your phone with contacts/favorites/profiles. Stay in Edge as much as possible. Only switch to 3G when you need to surf or download. Except for the extremely long reset time, my device smokes my brother's Moto Android and my other bros iPhone. I have no issues with freezes, connecting to internet, not getting notifications and many of the other issues I hear about. These issues are almost always related to a cooked ROM or an unstable 3rd party app. Don't get me wrong, the stock ROM could have been soooo much better. But I will match my functionality and stability against any cooked ROM here. Bottom line is, to each his own.
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In short, you must walk on egg shells or winmo will crash and burn. As far as "smoking" the motodroid, that statement i believe is exaggerated. Yes it may (even then it's a maybe) run a little faster but i wouldn't use the word "smokes". Even if it does run faster, i'm willing to bet your brother hasn't had to do anything anywhere close to what you stated in the book you just wrote about what you did to your phone to make it stable. I don't care what ROM or what apps you install on your winmo phone, the core code is still crap and completely unstable and slow. You can't fix that with a cooked ROM or a 3rd party app.
To answer the original question: My suggestion is to wait for the android port to be completed and install android on your tp2. I've owned several winmo phones dating back to winmo 5 and I am now on the tilt2 with winmo 6.5 and i gotta say 6.5 is the worst of them all. The sms freezing/lagging and the sluggishness will never go away. The current android build isn't fully functional yet but you can make and receive calls, text, and get data on it so I use it about 50% of the time on my tilt2. Blows winmo out of the water as far as stability goes and the port isn't even complete. Looks to me like that's what you're looking for, stability. The only reason I don't use it exclusively is because power management isn't working properly yet so it drains the battery pretty quickly. But progess is being made as we speak.
Good luck.

This device has no bugs at all.
Use stock rom, or NRG rom, with sense 2.1, and WM build 21XXX, and u will see.
Its by far the stablest and smoothest WM device i had, even with the 528 qualcomm proccessor.
The only annoying thing on this device, is the modified bluetooth stack that sometimes causes the device to freeze on activesync via bluetooth.

To add something to this thread.
For the fun of it i tested my Tp2.
Normaly i dont lets apps stay open.
But just to let you all know i openend up
9 applications i started with round 70% free memory.
With all apps open it whent down to 35 % free memory.
Now this is nice to know.......no freeze no glitch and my tf3d slider works perfect.
After closing the apps i have 69% free memory back.
I use this phone alot for the hardware keyboard.( i have Hd2 to)
And i run official rom 2.1 sense.
Hope it helps a litlle.
Greetz.

I have the tilt 2 & I'm running JoshKoss 1.8 sence2.5 full build. It's running fast & stable no freezes or resets. I primary use this phone for e-mails, internet, & phone calls. I'm not into watching movies or listening to music on it.

I play with alot of cooked ROMs and I never really had any problems. I would say that you have to know the device and what you want. Typically after flashing, I will go deep in and turn off whatever that I don't need. So gone with all the auto-updates, gsensor, push internets etc. I even use MemMaid and disable all the startup items, services and notifications that I do not need.
My device runs alot faster and stable as a result.

actually MIGHTY ROM seems to be the bet rom around.. its stable and FAST!!

I'm using my TP2 with the Stock 6.5 & have never faced any problems whatsoever

General Rhodium Question

Hi, I have the Sprint Touch Pro 2 and have a couple basic questions. Is this considered the Rhodium 400 or how do I determine? And I see that there are six main threads here regarding the "HTC Rhodium: Touch Pro2, Tilt 2" but only the last one mentions CDMA. So does that mean since mine is CDMA that all of the other five threads of fixes, cabs, themes and so on do not apply to me? Or if some of them do, how will I know if what is being discussed will apply to CDMA as well as GSM?
Thanks

Most of the Cabs will work just fine depending on what they are supposed to do. The one think you have to be very careful of is the difference in ROMs. They are not interchangable but it is unlikely that you will be playing with them for a while at least.
The CDMA catagory is more for CDMA specific stuff. The other catagories will have stuff that will work for both GSM and CDMA with the usual caveat of depending what they are for.

The RHOD400 is indeed the Sprint Touch Pro2, though you can always find this yourself by looking under the battery of your device, and searching for the string of text that says RHODXXX, where XXX is a number. The various subforums (with the exception of the ROM Development and CDMA Rhodium subforums) are pretty much model independent.
The biggest thing to watch out for is flashing GSM radios and OS ROMs on your CDMA device, as flashing those can and often will brick your device. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people with completely bricked Rhodiums because they flashed an incompatible radio ROM. If you want to flash a new OS ROM or radio ROM, absolutely make sure it's CDMA, as the GSM ones found here often won't say they're GSM. Since XDA-Developers is primarily GSM, a good place to look for CDMA Rhodium ROMs is PPCGeeks, here.

Ok guys thanks for the help. Thr ROM I am really hoping to try is Juicy's LEO WM 6.5 Sense 2.5 that looks pretty much eaxctly like the stock HD2 UI, including the animated weather on the home screen background. Is that available here set up to work on the Sprint Touch Pro 2, without a lot of fixing issues after the flash? I know there seems to be a MMS issue according to the thread I saw over at PPCGeeks. But I am hoping to find one here that loads and has the phone and data working without a lot of grief. And a cab available to fix the MMS that simply is proven to work for everyone. Any help would be much appreciated. I have already unlocked the phone and am very familiar with flashing ROMS. I did it extensivly on my previous Touch Vouge and Touch Pro Raphael. But only used the NFSFAN ROMs as they were always the shi_.

juicy r10 is going to be kinda slow compared to some other roms, mainly because of sense 2.5. If you are stuck on using sense 2.5 juicy or energy leo roms are probably the best, but still are much less responsive than any sense 2.1 rom.
Honestly if you want a stable rom (no daily soft reset) I would suggest MightyRom or Energy Pheonix. Some people also like the Mr.X 2.1 ROM. Basically our processor is just slightly not good enough to keep up with 2.5 IMO.

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juicy r10 is going to be kinda slow compared to some other roms, mainly because of sense 2.5. If you are stuck on using sense 2.5 juicy or energy leo roms are probably the best, but still are much less responsive than any sense 2.1 rom.
Honestly if you want a stable rom (no daily soft reset) I would suggest MightyRom or Energy Pheonix. Some people also like the Mr.X 2.1 ROM. Basically our processor is just slightly not good enough to keep up with 2.5 IMO.
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Ok thanks for the comments. Are either of the ones suggested available in a Sprint CDMA version that has the provisioning working right out of the gate. And do they have the Twitter tab in the sense UI?
Thanks,

Sense 2.1 (for GSM at least, maybe also for CDMA) has animated weather, but only for the default background. The attached cab allows for animated weather on any background. Should work on CDMA since it's not a Rom, but I can't assure anything.
All credits to the programer, I found this cab in a few weeks ago from a file sharing service, I thought I bookmarked the address but I didn't.

wherestheanykey said:
Ok thanks for the comments. Are either of the ones suggested available in a Sprint CDMA version that has the provisioning working right out of the gate. And do they have the Twitter tab in the sense UI?
Thanks,
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Mightyrom does not have sprint provisioning out of the gate, you will have to do a quick/easy programming. Install the rom, do 1-2 hard resets (I do one from bootloader, one from the clear memory screen), on restart open your start menu, go to system and click carrier provisioning. Load sprint, it will soft reset and then you can program your phone.
I'm not sure about the energy rom, I think it does something very similar on the first boot.
Mightyrom comes with the weather animations, it doesn't have the quick launch icons on the today screen though. No twitter tab either.

josemald said:
Sense 2.1 (for GSM at least, maybe also for CDMA) has animated weather, but only for the default background. The attached cab allows for animated weather on any background. Should work on CDMA since it's not a Rom, but I can't assure anything.
All credits to the programer, I found this cab in a few weeks ago from a file sharing service, I thought I bookmarked the address but I didn't.
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Thanks josemald for the cab.

burtonsnow8 said:
Mightyrom does not have sprint provisioning out of the gate, you will have to do a quick/easy programming. Install the rom, do 1-2 hard resets (I do one from bootloader, one from the clear memory screen), on restart open your start menu, go to system and click carrier provisioning. Load sprint, it will soft reset and then you can program your phone.
I'm not sure about the energy rom, I think it does something very similar on the first boot.
Mightyrom comes with the weather animations, it doesn't have the quick launch icons on the today screen though. No twitter tab either.
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Well I definately want the quick launch option on the home screen, that is one of the things I like best about the new sense. It kind of reminds me of the original touch flo home screen on the original Touch Vouge for Sprint. I guess I will give the energy rom a shot. Thanks

wherestheanykey said:
Well I definately want the quick launch option on the home screen, that is one of the things I like best about the new sense. It kind of reminds me of the original touch flo home screen on the original Touch Vouge for Sprint. I guess I will give the energy rom a shot. Thanks
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since you are CDMA, check out these forums to ensure you get the right ROM:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98&daysprune=30&order=desc&sort=replycount

Suggestions for a ROM for me. Please! Anything is appreciated!

Hey guys, school just finished so I have finally had time to play with my phone and mess with apps/ROMs. I used to run the Energy ROM, i flashed up to the new energy ROM but there wasn't anything i liked about it. Except I loved the Start button in the bottom row along with the soft keys. I have also tried the Valkyrie ROM (didn't like it at all) and the Leo Evo ROM, which was pretty nice except it runs slow and it seems kind of glitchy. In about 30 of straight use, I had to run a couple of soft restarts. Other than that I wouldn't mind the LEO Evo ROM.
I liked the older Energy ROM i was on, however I really want the Start button in the bottom left hand corner. I was trying to look for a cab for this, but was unsuccessful.
I wouldn't be opposed to trying a different ROM Im open to anything. I typically like to run the Windows Titanium screen because it runs faster than Sense for me, im a big texter, and I don't have data plan, so I need easy WiFi setup and workability (although this is no problem with the Keyboard Controller, I have it set to the back mute key, finally found a use for it, eh? haha). So lets hear what you guys got for me!
EDIT: Also, Is there a way to access the task manager with the Start button in the bottom left corner, besides going to start, then tools then task manger or whatever
I was also looking into the Titanizer, anyone know anything about how well it works? Thanks

I went through a few roms before installing Leo Cell Evo 9.1 (23XXX Build). While I was happy with roms I went through first, I was impressed with the Leo Cell Evo rom. There are so many things that you can customize to make it truly yours. You can also stick with how it installs and be more than satisfied with it. In the rom, the "Tweak Tools" are available under the programs tab and all the options are there. 3 thumbs up from me.

I have had good luck with the Energy roms with Titanium only. In order to get the start menu button in the bottom curtain you just need to flash a rom with a build in the 23xxx series. The 21xxx series roms are with the start menu on the top curtain. I find the 21xxx roms to be more stable and I like having the task manager at my disposal and to be able to take a quick glance at my memory usage as well with the 21xxx rom.

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Hey guys, school just finished so I have finally had time to play with my phone and mess with apps/ROMs. I used to run the Energy ROM, i flashed up to the new energy ROM but there wasn't anything i liked about it. Except I loved the Start button in the bottom row along with the soft keys
I was also looking into the Titanizer, anyone know anything about how well it works? Thanks
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Wow, I like almost everything about the NRG ROMs. I would suggest that you pick your ROM and then stay with it for a week or so to get to know how it works. NRG ROMS in particular need to be tuned to make battery life longer, and the battery gauge is not so accurate for the first few days. I like the tools that he cooks into the ROM.

Yeah well with the 23xxx series, I was really satisfied withe the NRG with the bottom start menu but there were a lot of things that glitched here and there. Like for some reason, it took me forever to try to get rid of the keyboard once it came up in total commander or something like that.
This is what I have stuck to the longest so far. I have little things that bother me a lot, thats why I have been flashing a lot. Along with using the Titanium theme I use an app from the Marketplace called "Home Screen Customizer" which lets you remove and reorganize your ascreen and add an "Apps" page. I also threw in a Facebook and MS Office tab from the second link. But I think my final decision is cooking this ROM in the link with some apps and games from other ROMs. I'm not looking forward to all the work though. haha.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625614&highlight=rim+rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511052

If you want the start menu in the left corner (windows 6.5.3 or 6.5.5) And the taskmanager linked with the start button, you should really check out the valkyre roms again.
Espescially this version valkyrie.ftp v6.5.23115tr2.5 25th april wm6.5.5 without extra tabbs. This is one of the fastest and most stable roms you are going to find here for the rhodium.
You said you didn't like that rom, what didn't you like about it? If don't like the layout, you always change it yourself. But if you want a really stable and fast rom, you should check it out again.

Ark's Rhodium roms are my absolute favorite.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1730&page=1
i have used EnergyROM since February (Thats when i got my Rhodium) but Ark's roms are the fastest, cleanest, and overall best for battery life I have found. I love it. I highly highly highly recommend it if you like the stock look but a custom feel with a super fast shot of adrenaline in there!
If you get the HTC Messaging Client one then I suggest you install the newer version of it via CAB (if i find it, i'll post it here) because the new 2014 revisions of the HTC Messaging Client are faster-- i mean, if you text

Lennyz1988 said:
If you want the start menu in the left corner (windows 6.5.3 or 6.5.5) And the taskmanager linked with the start button, you should really check out the valkyre roms again.
Espescially this version valkyrie.ftp v6.5.23115tr2.5 25th april wm6.5.5 without extra tabbs. This is one of the fastest and most stable roms you are going to find here for the rhodium.
You said you didn't like that rom, what didn't you like about it? If don't like the layout, you always change it yourself. But if you want a really stable and fast rom, you should check it out again.
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its not so much the layout as the little things that bug me. I tried that built you suggested and it was nice but for some reason it always sent me a confirmation text saying that my last text I sent out was sent. I tried disabling it when I went into Message Options- then uncheck the box for delivery confirmation. I posted on the Valkyrie thread about it maybe there is a fix for it. I tried different styles but I like the standard threaded SMS (similar to the 6.1 style).
and shishir95, I tried to look at that ROM you suggested and I had to make a htcpedia account and I did not get a confirmation of my account yet.. I did look at some of the ROMs and apps and im awaiting my confirmation now

Slow performance after WM6.5 upgrade

Hi, I have a Verzion TP2 and finally took the plunge to do the VZW WM6.5 upgrade.
Bad decision! I'm experiencing really slow performance and reduced battery life.
I like some of the new features, but the slow performance is not acceptable.
Anyone have any good advice for speeding things up? I know disabling sense UI will help, but then it would just be another crappy WM UI phone.
I did some searching here and wasn't able to find much. (Admittedly I didn't spent tons of time looking.)
Help is greatly appreciated! TIA!

Just put a custom rom on your phone and most of your problems are solved. And believe me, you never want to go back to stock.

THanks for the info. Not certain that I want to go away from stock because my carrier (Verizon) may get quite cranky & not want to support me or service my phone if something goes wrong.

I have an unbranded European version of the phone on the UK Vodafone network, so I'm not sure how much help I can be. But I thought I would offer some advice based on my own experiences.
Firstly I assume the version of WM6.5 you upgraded to is the Sense 2.1 version and not Sense 2.5? I remember when I first upgraded I immediately noticed a big slowdown in comparison to the WM6.1 version which flew. If it's any help, you'll soon learn to live with the slowdown and eventually it will become "normal" and it's only when you downgrade you'll realise the difference.
In terms of speeding up the device there is not much you can do, apart from reduce the ram usage. There are a couple of cabs which significantly lower the ram usage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532948
Secondly you might want to install an app called "memmaid" or "sktools" and disable certain processes and apps from starting up. Admittedly I don't really know what most of these processes do, but I've generally found these ones are ok to disable:
certenroll
notificationmanager
htcsipsrvc
gpsprivacy
softwaredisable
htcservices
dtpt
sqmupload
btagsvc
ssw
ussd
htcap
The same goes for startup applications where I have found these are ok to disable. (ignore the apps that are not installed on your device)
poutlook
speedbmonitor
delwmptempfolder
htcstartup
pkg
spbmobileshell (I have a switcher between this and Sense interface so dont need it on startup)
memmaidtweaks
superstarter.exe
Also, I remember seeing certain apps u can download from here that strip certain branded roms of all the bloatware. As my Touch Pro 2 is not branded, I've never used one and don't have any knowledge on them. But I'm sure someone on here will gladly point you in the right direction for a Verizon one. (If it indeed exists)
You might also want to install "advancedconfig" where you can tweak certain things in your phone to speed it up a bit.
I realise you don't want to go down the custom rom route, but unfortunately it may the only way to achieve what you want. I've now customised my official WM6.5 Sense 2.1 rom to how I want it (whilst waiting for my upgrade so I can switch to something like the HTC Desire on Android) and therefore don't use a custom rom, but I've tested the vast majority of the custom roms and I'm sure you'll find something you like. In your case, I'd suggest a hybrid of WM6.1 with the Sense 2.5 interface. If you can get your head around the lack of smooth scrolling in certain apps and what-not, you'll find a nice balance of speed and a very pretty sense 2.5 interface. (I personally couldn't get my head around it haha!)
I'd very much like to use a custom rom as I quite like Sense 2.5, but there was always a problem with the text message app. Be it the very slow "HTC Messaging" or the problem with the unread count after disabling it. I haven't tried a custom rom in a few months now so I'm not sure if this has been resolved. If so, can someone please let me know as I can't keep hard resetting my phone to test.
Anywayz good luck, and I hope this helped a bit. I don't come on this site too often but I will bookmark this page and try and remember to check it so if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Thanks fade to black for your well laid out response.
I am also waiting to upgrade to the Desire next month but I am not sure I want to get rid of my Touch pro 2. I am so used to the hardware keyboard plus even though I would have had the phone for 1 year by 30 July, it looks brand new. Carrying 2 smartphones about is not an option for me. I have also just had the screen replaced under warranty after it developed newton rings. HTC returned the phone with the latest WM6.5 i.e. with Sense 2.5 and it seems very smooth. No crashes or nothing since I have had it back about a week now.

You're very lucky then as I still have a year left on my contract :-( Lol..
Yeah losing the hardware keyboard is a bit worrying, but i've not had the HTC Wizard, then the Kaiser, and then the Touch Pro 2. So to be honest I'm quite looking forward to a "thin" device for once. Hopefully will be able to get used to the onscreen keyboard.
You could always try waiting a few more months until HTC release an android device with a keyboard? Tbh it's quite surprising how they haven't already.

@Fade2Black101 Thanks for the suggestions! I have begun looking at things and immediately went for disabling the push internet because my memory is a bit tight. Well, instead of installing the CAB file I went in to manually edit the registry and found that it was not enabled in my ROM. :-(
I'm going to try some of the other stuf you suggested, but have not had time as of yet.
I probably shouldn't be, but I am shocked that Verizon released an update that brings the phone to it's knees in terms of performance.

was there a noticable difference in ram usage after editing the push setting? I remember when I tried doing it manually and it didnt have the same effect as installing the cab. So unless you noticed a big change, i'd suggest using the cab.

I don't have Verizon, but, if the rom's out there for Verizon are like the GSM ones, you can probably download the "stock" Verizon Rom, in case you need warranty service. Just flash back to the stock version before returning it.
Of course, if you phone is unbootable, then, you're pretty much screwed
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THanks for the info. Not certain that I want to go away from stock because my carrier (Verizon) may get quite cranky & not want to support me or service my phone if something goes wrong.
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was there a noticable difference in ram usage after editing the push setting? I remember when I tried doing it manually and it didnt have the same effect as installing the cab. So unless you noticed a big change, i'd suggest using the cab.
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I checked the registry and the settings weren't even there except for one and it was set to disabled. Also when I check the task manager under processes, opera isn't there. So I'm pretty sure that push internet is not running on my phone.