Hi, I have the Sprint Touch Pro 2 and have a couple basic questions. Is this considered the Rhodium 400 or how do I determine? And I see that there are six main threads here regarding the "HTC Rhodium: Touch Pro2, Tilt 2" but only the last one mentions CDMA. So does that mean since mine is CDMA that all of the other five threads of fixes, cabs, themes and so on do not apply to me? Or if some of them do, how will I know if what is being discussed will apply to CDMA as well as GSM?
Thanks
Most of the Cabs will work just fine depending on what they are supposed to do. The one think you have to be very careful of is the difference in ROMs. They are not interchangable but it is unlikely that you will be playing with them for a while at least.
The CDMA catagory is more for CDMA specific stuff. The other catagories will have stuff that will work for both GSM and CDMA with the usual caveat of depending what they are for.
The RHOD400 is indeed the Sprint Touch Pro2, though you can always find this yourself by looking under the battery of your device, and searching for the string of text that says RHODXXX, where XXX is a number. The various subforums (with the exception of the ROM Development and CDMA Rhodium subforums) are pretty much model independent.
The biggest thing to watch out for is flashing GSM radios and OS ROMs on your CDMA device, as flashing those can and often will brick your device. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people with completely bricked Rhodiums because they flashed an incompatible radio ROM. If you want to flash a new OS ROM or radio ROM, absolutely make sure it's CDMA, as the GSM ones found here often won't say they're GSM. Since XDA-Developers is primarily GSM, a good place to look for CDMA Rhodium ROMs is PPCGeeks, here.
Ok guys thanks for the help. Thr ROM I am really hoping to try is Juicy's LEO WM 6.5 Sense 2.5 that looks pretty much eaxctly like the stock HD2 UI, including the animated weather on the home screen background. Is that available here set up to work on the Sprint Touch Pro 2, without a lot of fixing issues after the flash? I know there seems to be a MMS issue according to the thread I saw over at PPCGeeks. But I am hoping to find one here that loads and has the phone and data working without a lot of grief. And a cab available to fix the MMS that simply is proven to work for everyone. Any help would be much appreciated. I have already unlocked the phone and am very familiar with flashing ROMS. I did it extensivly on my previous Touch Vouge and Touch Pro Raphael. But only used the NFSFAN ROMs as they were always the shi_.
juicy r10 is going to be kinda slow compared to some other roms, mainly because of sense 2.5. If you are stuck on using sense 2.5 juicy or energy leo roms are probably the best, but still are much less responsive than any sense 2.1 rom.
Honestly if you want a stable rom (no daily soft reset) I would suggest MightyRom or Energy Pheonix. Some people also like the Mr.X 2.1 ROM. Basically our processor is just slightly not good enough to keep up with 2.5 IMO.
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juicy r10 is going to be kinda slow compared to some other roms, mainly because of sense 2.5. If you are stuck on using sense 2.5 juicy or energy leo roms are probably the best, but still are much less responsive than any sense 2.1 rom.
Honestly if you want a stable rom (no daily soft reset) I would suggest MightyRom or Energy Pheonix. Some people also like the Mr.X 2.1 ROM. Basically our processor is just slightly not good enough to keep up with 2.5 IMO.
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Ok thanks for the comments. Are either of the ones suggested available in a Sprint CDMA version that has the provisioning working right out of the gate. And do they have the Twitter tab in the sense UI?
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Sense 2.1 (for GSM at least, maybe also for CDMA) has animated weather, but only for the default background. The attached cab allows for animated weather on any background. Should work on CDMA since it's not a Rom, but I can't assure anything.
All credits to the programer, I found this cab in a few weeks ago from a file sharing service, I thought I bookmarked the address but I didn't.
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Ok thanks for the comments. Are either of the ones suggested available in a Sprint CDMA version that has the provisioning working right out of the gate. And do they have the Twitter tab in the sense UI?
Thanks,
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Mightyrom does not have sprint provisioning out of the gate, you will have to do a quick/easy programming. Install the rom, do 1-2 hard resets (I do one from bootloader, one from the clear memory screen), on restart open your start menu, go to system and click carrier provisioning. Load sprint, it will soft reset and then you can program your phone.
I'm not sure about the energy rom, I think it does something very similar on the first boot.
Mightyrom comes with the weather animations, it doesn't have the quick launch icons on the today screen though. No twitter tab either.
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Sense 2.1 (for GSM at least, maybe also for CDMA) has animated weather, but only for the default background. The attached cab allows for animated weather on any background. Should work on CDMA since it's not a Rom, but I can't assure anything.
All credits to the programer, I found this cab in a few weeks ago from a file sharing service, I thought I bookmarked the address but I didn't.
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Thanks josemald for the cab.
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Mightyrom does not have sprint provisioning out of the gate, you will have to do a quick/easy programming. Install the rom, do 1-2 hard resets (I do one from bootloader, one from the clear memory screen), on restart open your start menu, go to system and click carrier provisioning. Load sprint, it will soft reset and then you can program your phone.
I'm not sure about the energy rom, I think it does something very similar on the first boot.
Mightyrom comes with the weather animations, it doesn't have the quick launch icons on the today screen though. No twitter tab either.
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Well I definately want the quick launch option on the home screen, that is one of the things I like best about the new sense. It kind of reminds me of the original touch flo home screen on the original Touch Vouge for Sprint. I guess I will give the energy rom a shot. Thanks
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Well I definately want the quick launch option on the home screen, that is one of the things I like best about the new sense. It kind of reminds me of the original touch flo home screen on the original Touch Vouge for Sprint. I guess I will give the energy rom a shot. Thanks
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since you are CDMA, check out these forums to ensure you get the right ROM:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98&daysprune=30&order=desc&sort=replycount
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Alright everyone. Finally upgraded my phone from a hermes to a diamond. I knew basically everything about the hermes, and now I'm back to square one (almost) with the Diamond.
I've had a read through the Wiki and the forms, but I'd like to know which ROM's/radio versions out there are best for the Diamond.
Extinguishers at the ready! a popular question indeed. I use Dutty's it rocks.
I use Bepe's ROM, 1st because they are really stable, 2nd because I can manage my own language
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Alright everyone. Finally upgraded my phone from a hermes to a diamond. I knew basically everything about the hermes, and now I'm back to square one (almost) with the Diamond.
I've had a read through the Wiki and the forms, but I'd like to know which ROM's/radio versions out there are best for the Diamond.
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Anything based on the 1.93 roms are good. I used one of the stock roms on mine.
Generally it is considered that the .05 radio is the best, but I found the .11 gave me slightly better 3G coverage. I think there might be a .16 on the way but I dont know when that will be released.
I'm just using the latest official ROM (1.93). For once I find the official Diaond ROMS quite stable and usable. I've flashed a few ROMS such as Diamond project and Elite and find more annoyances on these ROMs than the original: things like modded splash screens I don't like and web links opening with I.E. instead of Opera.
I recommend just using the latest generic HTC ROM for now, unless you have particular cause to change, though to be fair you could just try all of them and see which you like best!
It's all good fun.
OK thread cleaned up. Stay on topic please people.
@ Reb0rn - lose the attitude, if you dont like the thread, dont post in it ....simple.
I use the TLR 3 ROM, it runs on 1.93.xxx.2 and i like it coz it keeps most of the stock features/look but with upgrades and tweaks to make it faster + its very stable - It is also one of the very few (if only) ROM's that includes the AppToDate application which allows you to update the phone over the air and hence means you don't have to flash the phone too often to get the latest stuff.
The .05 radio is the best and also makes the phone quad band... (you may also want to check out the Gsensor apps page on the 'diamond' part of the forum some cool stuff their.)
I am a little new to XDA...but I cant really find a straight answer to a question I have.
I just purchased the tilt2...love it. Unfortunately, I watched videos on the new hd2, and while I don't want the phone....gotta have my keyboard....I think a couple of the touchflo tabs make MUCH more sense.
So basically, I am wondering if cooks on here feel that at some point they will be able to offer some of those features in .cab files?
I dont want a whole new rom, I tried that on my original tilt...and it just never worked perfect, gps problems, some menus didnt look right. I really just want the phone to work perfectly like at&t intended...but with the new contacts tab, email tab, and maybe the new home screen that allows weather backgrounds and I believe allows a couple contacts straight on it.
Anyway...based on how people have been able to pull apart software for these phones...does this sound possible? or is touchflo simply too complicated to only pull parts of it out? I wouldnt want to simply entirely replace my at&t tilt 2 touchflo version with the hd2 version because I have heard that you would lose landscape mode for touchflo?
Anyway...just wondering if I can hope for this...or if I simply need to accept what I have until the touch pro 3 comes out?
p.s. I am assuming I would need that new version for what I wanted..unless hacks are possible? Basically I love the new email tab that allows you to read your emails right from there instead of showing them in an envelope.
I like the new contacts tab much better....more functional than that rotating carousel thing.
New today screen is nice with the weather background...and I like the idea of contacts on that screen.
No, you aren't going be able to change your TF3D with a simple .cab file.
It would require the flashing of a new ROM.
the HD2 'Sense' interface is Manila 2.5 and is in many ROMs over at the development section. Since Manila 2.5 is only designed for the HD2, when using the interface there is no landscape support for when the keyboard is slid out.
No one in xda-deveolopers has shown the ability to be able to take some features from Manila 2.1 and mix them with 2.5. If they could, I'm sure HTC would hire them in a heartbeat. HTC has an entire team of paid workers that create the Manilas. It takes time and skill and LOTS of work.
I would recommend just flashing a good Manila 2.1 ROM. Get rid of your AT&T bloatware. NGRZ's Photon ROM (in my signature) is a good place to start. It is very fast, stable, and comes preloaded with a ton of useful apps.
You will have less problems with his ROM than AT&T's stock ROM.
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No, you aren't going be able to change your TF3D with a simple .cab file.
It would require the flashing of a new ROM.
the HD2 'Sense' interface is Manila 2.5 and is in many ROMs over at the development section. Since Manila 2.5 is only designed for the HD2, when using the interface there is no landscape support for when the keyboard is slid out.
No one in xda-deveolopers has shown the ability to be able to take some features from Manila 2.1 and mix them with 2.5. If they could, I'm sure HTC would hire them in a heartbeat. HTC has an entire team of paid workers that create the Manilas. It takes time and skill and LOTS of work.
I would recommend just flashing a good Manila 2.1 ROM. Get rid of your AT&T bloatware. NGRZ's Photon ROM (in my signature) is a good place to start. It is very fast, stable, and comes preloaded with a ton of useful apps.
You will have less problems with his ROM than AT&T's stock ROM.
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Thank you for the response...I figured that was the case.
So let me ask you...I am very nervous about flashing the ROM on my brand new expensive phone. My main concerns:
1. Is their an easy way to go back to the stock setup?
2. When i flashed my first tilt, I had radio problems that never really got fixed
3. What advantage does that ROM have over the stock...other than space? I find the stock ROM has pretty decent speed honestly
4. My main concern: I don't like losing any of the functionality of the stock ROM...I actually like the default ATT opera page, etc.
5. If I could find a ROM that would simply remove things like the ATT mall, but otherwise leave everything else stock..and work just as good as stock...gps, opera, keyboard mapping, etc. I would do it. Oh...I wouldnt mind having custom wallpaper on all tabs.
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Thank you for the response...I figured that was the case.
So let me ask you...I am very nervous about flashing the ROM on my brand new expensive phone. My main concerns:
1. Is their an easy way to go back to the stock setup?
2. When i flashed my first tilt, I had radio problems that never really got fixed
3. What advantage does that ROM have over the stock...other than space? I find the stock ROM has pretty decent speed honestly
4. My main concern: I don't like losing any of the functionality of the stock ROM...I actually like the default ATT opera page, etc.
5. If I could find a ROM that would simply remove things like the ATT mall, but otherwise leave everything else stock..and work just as good as stock...gps, opera, keyboard mapping, etc. I would do it. Oh...I wouldnt mind having custom wallpaper on all tabs.
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Here's some feedback:
1. Right now, no -- since the Tilt2 has just been released, many folks are waiting for someone to successfully dump the stock ROM in case we need to go back.
2. Many of the custom ROMs do not include a new radio -- you'll just have to read up and decide which ones you like.
3. Every custom ROM has a different advantage. In some cases its visual, in other cases speed, stability, and some are just highly experimental with features taken from other phones.
4/5. Again since the Tilt2 is so new, give it a little time. Usually there are some chefs who feel the same way you do and will use a stock ROM and just make minor tweaks like taking out some unnecessary bloat and adding some useful programs.
I would recommend if the stock ROM is working ok for you, to stick with it for the time being until some more ATT specific ROMs start getting developed and you find one that will suit your individual needs.
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Here's some feedback:
1. Right now, no -- since the Tilt2 has just been released, many folks are waiting for someone to successfully dump the stock ROM in case we need to go back.
2. Many of the custom ROMs do not include a new radio -- you'll just have to read up and decide which ones you like.
3. Every custom ROM has a different advantage. In some cases its visual, in other cases speed, stability, and some are just highly experimental with features taken from other phones.
4/5. Again since the Tilt2 is so new, give it a little time. Usually there are some chefs who feel the same way you do and will use a stock ROM and just make minor tweaks like taking out some unnecessary bloat and adding some useful programs.
I would recommend if the stock ROM is working ok for you, to stick with it for the time being until some more ATT specific ROMs start getting developed and you find one that will suit your individual needs.
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4/5. Perfect, thats a great answer for me. I think that's what I really want is a stock ROM with some tweaks for speed and bloat.
A. Does a stock tweaked ROM usually mean I dont need to worry about fiddling with radios? and the GPS and stuff works just like stock?
B. Any specific ROM chefs that you know of that I should follow that typically do these types of ROMs?
oh..this is unrelated, but does anyone know why I am having issues running software that seems to work fine on other touch pro 2's...I keep getting errors about .net versions being wrong. I tried installing the .net compact package from Microsoft..but it just says it fails during install. This is kind of a pain because I can't get some really common apps to install.
I have a Tilt 2, and although I love the phone, had it for two months now, it can be a clunker if I don't power it down frequently. Looking for a good, stable cooked ROM that will speed things up, get rid of the AT$T cotton candy and be able to use all the functions of the phone.
Anyone have a favorite. My current system is stock , (2.1.19183217.0)(is not sense version). Can I use Sense 2.1 or 2.5 on my phone?
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I have a Tilt 2, and although I love the phone, had it for two months now, it can be a clunker if I don't power it down frequently. Looking for a good, stable cooked ROM that will speed things up, get rid of the AT$T cotton candy and be able to use all the functions of the phone.
Anyone have a favorite. My current system is stock , (2.1.19183217.0)(is not sense version). Can I use Sense 2.1 or 2.5 on my phone?
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The e2 ROM and the WCX ROM are both cooked specifically for the Tilt2. Your hardware keyboard should work with either one with no modifications or additional mapping.
It seems to me that the e2 ROM keeps a few more of the AT&T specific software, but in my opinion both ROM's are pretty much the same with personal preference being the deciding factor.
If you flash just about any other ROM, you will also have to install a cab to remap the keyboard to the AT&T setup, and may even have to do some modifications in the picture messaging.
e2 has a version without HTC Messaging which many people believe presents a lag problem in just about any ROM. He has a version with the older ArcSoft which is probably what you are used to.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644537
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681667
People always ask "what is the best ROM", but what is best depends on what you want in the ROM: aesthetics, features vs. lean & fast, what apps are cooked in, etc.
Personally, I've been using the Energy ROM on my Tilt2, and I love it. Great combination of eye candy, speed and stability. After you flash the ROM, just run the Carrier Provisioning in Tools, and it will map the keyboard to the ATT layout. Everything else works perfectly on ATT's network without any tweaking for me, NRG has already figured out the carrier specific settings to make it amazingly easy.
IMHO if you pick a ROM that is designed *specifically* for the Tilt2, then you are restricting your choice greatly. Most/all of the other ROMs should work fine on a Tilt2, just with a cab needed to map the keyboard (which is trivial).
I would ignore the Tilt2 bit, and just pick a ROM that looks good to you, and give it a try.
Yes, you can use either Sense 2.1 or Sense 2.5 on your phone, also there are other front-ends too, like Cookie, MaxSense, Titanium, etc, etc.
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IMHO if you pick a ROM that is designed *specifically* for the Tilt2, then you are restricting your choice greatly. Most/all of the other ROMs should work fine on a Tilt2, just with a cab needed to map the keyboard (which is trivial).
I would ignore the Tilt2 bit, and just pick a ROM that looks good to you, and give it a try.
Yes, you can use either Sense 2.1 or Sense 2.5 on your phone, also there are other front-ends too, like Cookie, MaxSense, Titanium, etc, etc.
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If you have a cab which will map the ENTIRE AT&T Tilt2 keyboard, I'd like for you to post it. I agree that it is trivial, BUT, I've never yet found a keyboard cab which will map ALL keys, including the OK key, to work properly. I have tried many different ROMs on my wife's Tilt2, and yes, many of them look great. However, IF it is important to you to have the AT&T mapping exactly right on all keys, like it is to my wife, I have not found any of the others which will do that with an "add-on" keyboard mapping cab. As I said in the beginning, if you have one which will do this, please, please, please, send it my way. It would open many doors, and many other ROMs for me to try.
Personally, I never even open the hardware keyboard on my Verizon Touch Pro2, so keyboard mapping is not a big deal to me, but the first thing she does when she pulls the Tilt2 out of her purse is pop open the keyboard, so that has been a big issue in our search for a good ROM for her use.
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People always ask "what is the best ROM", but what is best depends on what you want in the ROM: aesthetics, features vs. lean & fast, what apps are cooked in, etc.
Personally, I've been using the Energy ROM on my Tilt2, and I love it. Great combination of eye candy, speed and stability. After you flash the ROM, just run the Carrier Provisioning in Tools, and it will map the keyboard to the ATT layout. Everything else works perfectly on ATT's network without any tweaking for me, NRG has already figured out the carrier specific settings to make it amazingly easy.
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The problem I've had with Engery rom and every other rom that insists upon using transparent sliders and clocks is the "bleeding" through on the contacts page. In my opinion, that bleeding through looks very unprofessional and unfinished. See picture below:
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The problem I've had with Engery rom and every other rom that insists upon using transparent sliders and clocks is the "bleeding" through on the contacts page. In my opinion, that bleeding through looks very unprofessional and unfinished. See picture below:
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So you would prefer to have the last row bottom completely covered?
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So you would prefer to have the last row bottom completely covered?
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Well, it is not really the last row, it scrolls up for even more rows. Once you scroll up past the slider bar, it would visible.
I like the energy roms but the e2 and wcx are the only ones with AT&Ts agps settings it seems. I've tried the .cab of AT&T nokia and google settings but it's still difficult getting a lock on other "generic" roms instead of the AT&T specific roms.
keyboard map
GaryMcQ said:
If you have a cab which will map the ENTIRE AT&T Tilt2 keyboard, I'd like for you to post it. I agree that it is trivial, BUT, I've never yet found a keyboard cab which will map ALL keys, including the OK key, to work properly. I have tried many different ROMs on my wife's Tilt2, and yes, many of them look great. However, IF it is important to you to have the AT&T mapping exactly right on all keys, like it is to my wife, I have not found any of the others which will do that with an "add-on" keyboard mapping cab. As I said in the beginning, if you have one which will do this, please, please, please, send it my way. It would open many doors, and many other ROMs for me to try.
Personally, I never even open the hardware keyboard on my Verizon Touch Pro2, so keyboard mapping is not a big deal to me, but the first thing she does when she pulls the Tilt2 out of her purse is pop open the keyboard, so that has been a big issue in our search for a good ROM for her use.
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try this. i use it on my tilt2 and havnt found any mapping issues. except for the OK key LOL but the OK key pops up bottom right, right next to you're thumb anyway.
Energy Rom gets my vote....awesome...a lot faster and more responsive than stock plus it looks better to me as well.
Guys, I have no need for ATT bloatware, HTC messaging, MS stuff like Marketplace, MyPhone, etc. Even stock music player is crap. Prefer to install separate programs. Free MB is of great interest. ROM working with GPS is a must. Functionality, speed, free space is much preferable to looks.
Could you give me some leads if you encountered any "lite" ROMs for ATT Tilt 2 out there?
Thanks.
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I have a Tilt 2, and although I love the phone, had it for two months now, it can be a clunker if I don't power it down frequently. Looking for a good, stable cooked ROM that will speed things up, get rid of the AT$T cotton candy and be able to use all the functions of the phone.
Anyone have a favorite. My current system is stock , (2.1.19183217.0)(is not sense version). Can I use Sense 2.1 or 2.5 on my phone?
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Becareful!... this is how it starts, one innocent post and then bam! your a ROM junkie... On here day and night, chasing the dragon, looking for next best ROM.
Green Eyed Misfit said:
Becareful!... this is how it starts, one innocent post and then bam! your a ROM junkie... On here day and night, chasing the dragon, looking for next best ROM.
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Truer words were never spoken. I have no idea how, or when, even why it started. But man I'd like to have a quarter for every minute I've patrolled these forums searching for that ever elusive perfect ROM.
My name is Gary . . .and I'm a ROM junkie . . .
I have had my tilt2 for 3 weeks and I searched and searched for specific tilt2 stuff. Even though I was really nervous to flash it I flashed the "Energy Standard sense" ROM and it was great. I used the TILT2 keyboard cab and it worked perfectly. I use my Tilt2 on T-mobile so it had provisioning for that cooked in as well. I wanted a little more "polish" and adjustment to it and so I now have the "Energy Dinik Glass" (June.7) ROM and it is amazing! No issues so far.
Just an fyi...for some reason all the energy roms I have flashed have really slow touch sensitivity but within a few minutes and a soft reset everything is speedy as normal.
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Truer words were never spoken. I have no idea how, or when, even why it started. But man I'd like to have a quarter for every minute I've patrolled these forums searching for that ever elusive perfect ROM.
My name is Gary . . .and I'm a ROM junkie . . .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652857
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thanks... i felt so alone!
Chasing the ROM dragon *LOL*
Guys, I must confess that I'm guilty of the same thing as well. However, I think that part of it is encoded into our DNA. The other part (if you're married to a penny pincher like I am) comes from our spouses. Let's be honest about this...guys love gadgets. That's why we have Spike TV & G4 (Thank God for G4!!) My point is this...since my wife won't let me go and buy the next latest, greatest phone each time a better one comes out, my only alternative is to change what I already have - hence the constant changing of ROMs.
Recently, it became a necessity because I had been a FUZE user and was devoted to TAEL's ROMs for quite some time. But then when I got the new car and the Tilt 2 was the only thing that would work on it (bluetooth car audio functions), I knew where I had to go to make the boring 'stock' Tilt 2 into something that I could use and be efficient and effective in my job. That's where NRG comes in. With no disrespect to the other ROM makers in the Tilt 2 forum, NRG has come through for me time and again. There are very nice things from the other guys, but NRG seems to know exactly what I NEED and he puts it out there. Mind you, I'm not even talking about the bleeding edge 23xxx stuff. I'm merely talking about the tried and true stable 21xxx ROMs that get delivered. Sure there's an occasional bug sometimes (who hasn't seen one?), but he's quick to fix them and the next release to us. (Which reminds me, I need to make a donation to him today because he has pulled my ass from the fire more times than I care to count.)
I'm sorry if I got on a soapbox, but this whole forum makes me very emotional. Before I knew how to flash ROMs and knew what was out there, a phone was merely a phone. But then all you guys came info my life and you shared your knowledge with me without condescension or bellittling.)
That's my two cents for what it's worth.
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That's my two cents for what it's worth.
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I appreciate your post!
I see you are using ROM : EnergyROM 21903/Sense 2.5/Cookie Home Tab/May 16
It looks like I cannot get that anymore, therefore I need to go to:
Energy.RHODIUM.21905.Sense2.5.Cookie.Jun.11.7z
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Thanks!
So there's really no way to completely remap the keys on a Touch Pro2 ROM to match the AT&T keyboard? I only got my TP2 a few weeks ago, but I've been travelling and haven't had the internet to test out many new ROMs (just threw on Energy ROM before I left). Been using an unmapped keyboard for a few weeks now...
Just curious if there's a better way.
Hi, I have a Verzion TP2 and finally took the plunge to do the VZW WM6.5 upgrade.
Bad decision! I'm experiencing really slow performance and reduced battery life.
I like some of the new features, but the slow performance is not acceptable.
Anyone have any good advice for speeding things up? I know disabling sense UI will help, but then it would just be another crappy WM UI phone.
I did some searching here and wasn't able to find much. (Admittedly I didn't spent tons of time looking.)
Help is greatly appreciated! TIA!
Just put a custom rom on your phone and most of your problems are solved. And believe me, you never want to go back to stock.
THanks for the info. Not certain that I want to go away from stock because my carrier (Verizon) may get quite cranky & not want to support me or service my phone if something goes wrong.
I have an unbranded European version of the phone on the UK Vodafone network, so I'm not sure how much help I can be. But I thought I would offer some advice based on my own experiences.
Firstly I assume the version of WM6.5 you upgraded to is the Sense 2.1 version and not Sense 2.5? I remember when I first upgraded I immediately noticed a big slowdown in comparison to the WM6.1 version which flew. If it's any help, you'll soon learn to live with the slowdown and eventually it will become "normal" and it's only when you downgrade you'll realise the difference.
In terms of speeding up the device there is not much you can do, apart from reduce the ram usage. There are a couple of cabs which significantly lower the ram usage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532948
Secondly you might want to install an app called "memmaid" or "sktools" and disable certain processes and apps from starting up. Admittedly I don't really know what most of these processes do, but I've generally found these ones are ok to disable:
certenroll
notificationmanager
htcsipsrvc
gpsprivacy
softwaredisable
htcservices
dtpt
sqmupload
btagsvc
ssw
ussd
htcap
The same goes for startup applications where I have found these are ok to disable. (ignore the apps that are not installed on your device)
poutlook
speedbmonitor
delwmptempfolder
htcstartup
pkg
spbmobileshell (I have a switcher between this and Sense interface so dont need it on startup)
memmaidtweaks
superstarter.exe
Also, I remember seeing certain apps u can download from here that strip certain branded roms of all the bloatware. As my Touch Pro 2 is not branded, I've never used one and don't have any knowledge on them. But I'm sure someone on here will gladly point you in the right direction for a Verizon one. (If it indeed exists)
You might also want to install "advancedconfig" where you can tweak certain things in your phone to speed it up a bit.
I realise you don't want to go down the custom rom route, but unfortunately it may the only way to achieve what you want. I've now customised my official WM6.5 Sense 2.1 rom to how I want it (whilst waiting for my upgrade so I can switch to something like the HTC Desire on Android) and therefore don't use a custom rom, but I've tested the vast majority of the custom roms and I'm sure you'll find something you like. In your case, I'd suggest a hybrid of WM6.1 with the Sense 2.5 interface. If you can get your head around the lack of smooth scrolling in certain apps and what-not, you'll find a nice balance of speed and a very pretty sense 2.5 interface. (I personally couldn't get my head around it haha!)
I'd very much like to use a custom rom as I quite like Sense 2.5, but there was always a problem with the text message app. Be it the very slow "HTC Messaging" or the problem with the unread count after disabling it. I haven't tried a custom rom in a few months now so I'm not sure if this has been resolved. If so, can someone please let me know as I can't keep hard resetting my phone to test.
Anywayz good luck, and I hope this helped a bit. I don't come on this site too often but I will bookmark this page and try and remember to check it so if you have any questions, feel free to ask.
Thanks fade to black for your well laid out response.
I am also waiting to upgrade to the Desire next month but I am not sure I want to get rid of my Touch pro 2. I am so used to the hardware keyboard plus even though I would have had the phone for 1 year by 30 July, it looks brand new. Carrying 2 smartphones about is not an option for me. I have also just had the screen replaced under warranty after it developed newton rings. HTC returned the phone with the latest WM6.5 i.e. with Sense 2.5 and it seems very smooth. No crashes or nothing since I have had it back about a week now.
You're very lucky then as I still have a year left on my contract :-( Lol..
Yeah losing the hardware keyboard is a bit worrying, but i've not had the HTC Wizard, then the Kaiser, and then the Touch Pro 2. So to be honest I'm quite looking forward to a "thin" device for once. Hopefully will be able to get used to the onscreen keyboard.
You could always try waiting a few more months until HTC release an android device with a keyboard? Tbh it's quite surprising how they haven't already.
@Fade2Black101 Thanks for the suggestions! I have begun looking at things and immediately went for disabling the push internet because my memory is a bit tight. Well, instead of installing the CAB file I went in to manually edit the registry and found that it was not enabled in my ROM. :-(
I'm going to try some of the other stuf you suggested, but have not had time as of yet.
I probably shouldn't be, but I am shocked that Verizon released an update that brings the phone to it's knees in terms of performance.
was there a noticable difference in ram usage after editing the push setting? I remember when I tried doing it manually and it didnt have the same effect as installing the cab. So unless you noticed a big change, i'd suggest using the cab.
I don't have Verizon, but, if the rom's out there for Verizon are like the GSM ones, you can probably download the "stock" Verizon Rom, in case you need warranty service. Just flash back to the stock version before returning it.
Of course, if you phone is unbootable, then, you're pretty much screwed
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THanks for the info. Not certain that I want to go away from stock because my carrier (Verizon) may get quite cranky & not want to support me or service my phone if something goes wrong.
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was there a noticable difference in ram usage after editing the push setting? I remember when I tried doing it manually and it didnt have the same effect as installing the cab. So unless you noticed a big change, i'd suggest using the cab.
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I checked the registry and the settings weren't even there except for one and it was set to disabled. Also when I check the task manager under processes, opera isn't there. So I'm pretty sure that push internet is not running on my phone.
so far i've tried mighty rom (fat and slow), energy rom(still fst and slow) and sharkie rom (reasonabhle but still not setup 100% and a bit slow).
all 3 have stability issues. requiring a reset at least once and often 2-3 times a week. itks very important that my phone does not lock up as i need the alarm and other things to work continuously.
any suggestions? so far i've only used windows 6.5.x roms as i like the start menu at the bottok. but would 6.5 or 6.1 be more stable?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144615
This ROM is available in two versions...wm6.5 and wm6.5.x....they're both as stable as all heck ...take your pick...I personally prefer 6.5 (21916)...but that's the case on anyones rom I'm using...I don't like the start key on the bottom...I like it on top, where it's supposed to be lol
The device will reboot itself after it starts up for the first time and it's suggested you restart twice afterwards....BUT...DON'T freak out after it restarts itself, it's a built in feature...also...you need to set your time in the windows settings not sense...and if you have any weather location issues, add your city, select it, and then remove it in the "remove locations" screen and you'll be good to go
Sergio76's Core Cell Evo
I recommend trying Sergio76's Core Cell Evo version 4.0 ROM. Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617142"
When you click on the download link, the file you want is "TP2 Core Cell Evo v4".
If you decide to install the ROM, click on the link in my signature and get the latest patch for this ROM. Follow the instructions provided on how to install the ROM and the patch and you will have the fastest ROM with the most stability and a lot of eye candy! Feel free to ask any questions you may have.
are there any differences between 6.5 and 6.5.x that affect speed or stability? or is it purely cosmetic?
what about 6.1?
6.5.x uses more ram
Lavell7298 said:
I recommend trying Sergio76's Core Cell Evo version 4.0 ROM. Here's the link
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I should of mentioned I have a Sprint TP2 which needs CDMA roms, neither of the above 2 are CDMA
Would it be best to make a new thread in the CDMA section?
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I should of mentioned I have a Sprint TP2 which needs CDMA roms, neither of the above 2 are CDMA
Would it be best to make a new thread in the CDMA section?
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Yes. You need to post this request in the CDMA section.
I suggest Energy.RHODIUM.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.DinikGlass.Jul.04. It has been extremely stable!! I have a custom made app for my job and it has always caused issues for me. With this version of NRG's rom I haven't had any issues!!
Love this ROM.
i'm trying the 21xxx build of titanium energy rom. It's a bit faster but still not snappy like my super oldschool nokia 2690. Anyway so far it has managed to freeze up once right after a phone call. If it freezes again i'll assume it's not the rom thats the issue. Though come to think of it it does seem to freeze up around the time someone calls
Could it perhaps have something to do with the phone part and not anything else? i'm running the latest sprint radio (2.32?) but before that was 1.96? and it still froze using that one. Also I do a task29 before each flash
I read a post somewhere suggesting that I force GSM and also the band as that may stop it freezing. But I can't seem to find a way to force 900mhz or 2100mhz?
Best asking in his thread for support on the ROM
Regards,
WC
GT247 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144615
This ROM is available in two versions...wm6.5 and wm6.5.x....they're both as stable as all heck ...take your pick...I personally prefer 6.5 (21916)...but that's the case on anyones rom I'm using...I don't like the start key on the bottom...I like it on top, where it's supposed to be lol
The device will reboot itself after it starts up for the first time and it's suggested you restart twice afterwards....BUT...DON'T freak out after it restarts itself, it's a built in feature...also...you need to set your time in the windows settings not sense...and if you have any weather location issues, add your city, select it, and then remove it in the "remove locations" screen and you'll be good to go
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That
Illuminati series is the best I tried so far
Hussam, you wont find a more stable CHT ROM than Illuminati...or faster...or with more available device storage...it really is an amazing rom
dude, that's what i run, im also a beta tester
Hussam...sorry, I never know anything about anything...lol
GT247 said:
Hussam...sorry, I never know anything about anything...lol
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lol, it's ok
husam666 said:
Illuminati series is the best I tried so far
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Is there a CDMA version?
qwerty-1234 said:
Is there a CDMA version?
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no
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