Related
I am a little new to XDA...but I cant really find a straight answer to a question I have.
I just purchased the tilt2...love it. Unfortunately, I watched videos on the new hd2, and while I don't want the phone....gotta have my keyboard....I think a couple of the touchflo tabs make MUCH more sense.
So basically, I am wondering if cooks on here feel that at some point they will be able to offer some of those features in .cab files?
I dont want a whole new rom, I tried that on my original tilt...and it just never worked perfect, gps problems, some menus didnt look right. I really just want the phone to work perfectly like at&t intended...but with the new contacts tab, email tab, and maybe the new home screen that allows weather backgrounds and I believe allows a couple contacts straight on it.
Anyway...based on how people have been able to pull apart software for these phones...does this sound possible? or is touchflo simply too complicated to only pull parts of it out? I wouldnt want to simply entirely replace my at&t tilt 2 touchflo version with the hd2 version because I have heard that you would lose landscape mode for touchflo?
Anyway...just wondering if I can hope for this...or if I simply need to accept what I have until the touch pro 3 comes out?
p.s. I am assuming I would need that new version for what I wanted..unless hacks are possible? Basically I love the new email tab that allows you to read your emails right from there instead of showing them in an envelope.
I like the new contacts tab much better....more functional than that rotating carousel thing.
New today screen is nice with the weather background...and I like the idea of contacts on that screen.
No, you aren't going be able to change your TF3D with a simple .cab file.
It would require the flashing of a new ROM.
the HD2 'Sense' interface is Manila 2.5 and is in many ROMs over at the development section. Since Manila 2.5 is only designed for the HD2, when using the interface there is no landscape support for when the keyboard is slid out.
No one in xda-deveolopers has shown the ability to be able to take some features from Manila 2.1 and mix them with 2.5. If they could, I'm sure HTC would hire them in a heartbeat. HTC has an entire team of paid workers that create the Manilas. It takes time and skill and LOTS of work.
I would recommend just flashing a good Manila 2.1 ROM. Get rid of your AT&T bloatware. NGRZ's Photon ROM (in my signature) is a good place to start. It is very fast, stable, and comes preloaded with a ton of useful apps.
You will have less problems with his ROM than AT&T's stock ROM.
skyler17 said:
No, you aren't going be able to change your TF3D with a simple .cab file.
It would require the flashing of a new ROM.
the HD2 'Sense' interface is Manila 2.5 and is in many ROMs over at the development section. Since Manila 2.5 is only designed for the HD2, when using the interface there is no landscape support for when the keyboard is slid out.
No one in xda-deveolopers has shown the ability to be able to take some features from Manila 2.1 and mix them with 2.5. If they could, I'm sure HTC would hire them in a heartbeat. HTC has an entire team of paid workers that create the Manilas. It takes time and skill and LOTS of work.
I would recommend just flashing a good Manila 2.1 ROM. Get rid of your AT&T bloatware. NGRZ's Photon ROM (in my signature) is a good place to start. It is very fast, stable, and comes preloaded with a ton of useful apps.
You will have less problems with his ROM than AT&T's stock ROM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you for the response...I figured that was the case.
So let me ask you...I am very nervous about flashing the ROM on my brand new expensive phone. My main concerns:
1. Is their an easy way to go back to the stock setup?
2. When i flashed my first tilt, I had radio problems that never really got fixed
3. What advantage does that ROM have over the stock...other than space? I find the stock ROM has pretty decent speed honestly
4. My main concern: I don't like losing any of the functionality of the stock ROM...I actually like the default ATT opera page, etc.
5. If I could find a ROM that would simply remove things like the ATT mall, but otherwise leave everything else stock..and work just as good as stock...gps, opera, keyboard mapping, etc. I would do it. Oh...I wouldnt mind having custom wallpaper on all tabs.
acolona said:
Thank you for the response...I figured that was the case.
So let me ask you...I am very nervous about flashing the ROM on my brand new expensive phone. My main concerns:
1. Is their an easy way to go back to the stock setup?
2. When i flashed my first tilt, I had radio problems that never really got fixed
3. What advantage does that ROM have over the stock...other than space? I find the stock ROM has pretty decent speed honestly
4. My main concern: I don't like losing any of the functionality of the stock ROM...I actually like the default ATT opera page, etc.
5. If I could find a ROM that would simply remove things like the ATT mall, but otherwise leave everything else stock..and work just as good as stock...gps, opera, keyboard mapping, etc. I would do it. Oh...I wouldnt mind having custom wallpaper on all tabs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's some feedback:
1. Right now, no -- since the Tilt2 has just been released, many folks are waiting for someone to successfully dump the stock ROM in case we need to go back.
2. Many of the custom ROMs do not include a new radio -- you'll just have to read up and decide which ones you like.
3. Every custom ROM has a different advantage. In some cases its visual, in other cases speed, stability, and some are just highly experimental with features taken from other phones.
4/5. Again since the Tilt2 is so new, give it a little time. Usually there are some chefs who feel the same way you do and will use a stock ROM and just make minor tweaks like taking out some unnecessary bloat and adding some useful programs.
I would recommend if the stock ROM is working ok for you, to stick with it for the time being until some more ATT specific ROMs start getting developed and you find one that will suit your individual needs.
pinoymutt said:
Here's some feedback:
1. Right now, no -- since the Tilt2 has just been released, many folks are waiting for someone to successfully dump the stock ROM in case we need to go back.
2. Many of the custom ROMs do not include a new radio -- you'll just have to read up and decide which ones you like.
3. Every custom ROM has a different advantage. In some cases its visual, in other cases speed, stability, and some are just highly experimental with features taken from other phones.
4/5. Again since the Tilt2 is so new, give it a little time. Usually there are some chefs who feel the same way you do and will use a stock ROM and just make minor tweaks like taking out some unnecessary bloat and adding some useful programs.
I would recommend if the stock ROM is working ok for you, to stick with it for the time being until some more ATT specific ROMs start getting developed and you find one that will suit your individual needs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
4/5. Perfect, thats a great answer for me. I think that's what I really want is a stock ROM with some tweaks for speed and bloat.
A. Does a stock tweaked ROM usually mean I dont need to worry about fiddling with radios? and the GPS and stuff works just like stock?
B. Any specific ROM chefs that you know of that I should follow that typically do these types of ROMs?
oh..this is unrelated, but does anyone know why I am having issues running software that seems to work fine on other touch pro 2's...I keep getting errors about .net versions being wrong. I tried installing the .net compact package from Microsoft..but it just says it fails during install. This is kind of a pain because I can't get some really common apps to install.
I just got a brand new HTC Touch Pro 2 less than a week ago and I find it rather slow at times.
How can I increase the overall-speed of my phone?
Thank you.
You'll find LOTS of tweaks here. Start searching and reading...
For me the most noticable speed improvements came from:
Turn off ClearType.
Disable PushInternet.
Don't use sense (I use SPB mobile Shell).
There are many others that will have more subtle effects. Like I said, start reading...
turn off sense, use titanium, or some other light weight replacement
i used iPhoneToday and use it to replace Sense, it freed up 20mb program memory on my TP2 and everything is just a lot smoother.
Non of the custom roms are fast enough for me with Sense on.
JackSomfin said:
I just got a brand new HTC Touch Pro 2 less than a week ago and I find it rather slow at times.
How can I increase the overall-speed of my phone?
Thank you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Jack, go ahead and run the two cabs I have attached here, they'll do a lot to improve the memory management on your TP2. That will help the phone free up resources when an app or program is done with them. The first one is one of the 3 things that IMissPalmOS mentioned above ("no push internet").
JackSomfin said:
I just got a brand new HTC Touch Pro 2 less than a week ago and I find it rather slow at times.
How can I increase the overall-speed of my phone?
Thank you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Welcome to forums
if you don´t mind to loose Sense and you want to really increase speed and performance go and flash a WM6.1 cooked ROM
That way your Rhodium will fly!!
sirphunkee said:
Jack, go ahead and run the two cabs I have attached here, they'll do a lot to improve the memory management on your TP2. That will help the phone free up resources when an app or program is done with them. The first one is one of the 3 things that IMissPalmOS mentioned above ("no push internet").
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for those. I remember seeing those cabs before but wasn't sure what they did. I'm still not really sure what they do but tried them anyway and they did free up some ram.
tecjunkie said:
Thanks for those. I remember seeing those cabs before but wasn't sure what they did. I'm still not really sure what they do but tried them anyway and they did free up some ram.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The "no push internet" cab turns off the real-time cacheing of web data, and the "dynamic resource proxy" makes a simple registry change that lets the phone free up memory better when apps and processes are done using it.
HTC released a signed rom with sense 2.5 that is the fastest overall rom I have ever used. It just flies man. I use the European version but my buddy told me they released an American version recently. Either one will work just the same. This rom can be found in the rom developement section or on HTC's site. You wont be dissapointed. The only thing I added was duttys task manager because they didnt include it with the rom. Im talking about the task manager in the upper right hand corner. Here is the cab for that if you decide to flash that rom. I highly reccomend it cause of the speed and stability. Its the best. PM me if you have any questions.
thanks
hey guys thanks for the advise i was having the same issues with enery rom its so full of stuff that it bogs down now and then these tweeks helped alot
hey i tried installing these cabs but it didn't really speed up my phone? did i do something wrong?
how do i turn off cleartype?
Rom Version 1.20.531.4 WM6.1
Thank you to everyone!
I download the two cab files and they helped speed up my T-Mobile TP2.
I was wondering? I have rom version 1.20.534.4 and would like to keep WM6.1. Am I able to upgrade my rom while keeping WM6.1 and is it worth while?
Thank you in advance for any useful information!
Giovanni
how do i turn off cleartype?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Goto the Settings Tab
/Personalize
/Font
/ClearType
unhook it...
Done...
Need help with slow downloading speed!
I have a t-mobile touch pro 2 running Windows 6.5 and already tweaked it with regedit and did the overclock cab and doing fine at 768. Yes the phone is much faster responding but downloading is still too slow. Did a hard reset days before the tweaks and was downloading fast then just slowed down again so I tried the tweaks to help but no success, can anyone help
gotta say I was about to give up on my Tp2 after years of loyal service, just felt so pokey next to my wifes HTC Incredible.
Then I decided what the hell, since I was gonna bail on it anyway I tried (for the first time) HardSPL and a custom rom, in this case MightyROM.
Anyway, its faster, a *lot* faster than any stock VZW rom I ever had (and due to my faithfulness to the TP2 platform Ive tried em all over the years) and it seems very optimized for speed. The only caveat is that it uses the WM6.5 start menu instead of the usual HTC one but that was no big deal for me, and Im sure helps reduce overhead. The phone boots up with 45%-50% memory used, compared to the usual 65% on the VZW roms.
So looks like I'll keep this a while longer, thanks MightyMike! Wish Id tried flashing a long time ago!
PS: I tried WinMoSpeed before flashing and noticed little diff, even @768.
MightyRom is definitely noticeably faster in comparison.
The TP2 is old...It's life is over...get a new phone and move on...
I still have one and my screen is cracked but, there is nothing in Windows Mobile that Verizon has that is any good right now, so Asurion cant help right now
hi all, if im right then my warrenty on my TP2 finishes in september.
So what im looking to do is stick a new cooked rom on there.
im pi55ed off with my phone because its sooo slow and it keeps failing on me but i dont want to get rid of it really because 99% of my friends either have crackberrys or ipoones and i want to be different.
i am a complete n00b with all the techy stuff like tweeking the phone.
I have a few questions for people with cooked roms
1 - what sort of memory does your rom run at?
2 - how long does your battery last and on what type of usage?
3 - do you need to keep doing soft re-sets?
4 - is your new rom quick and reliable?
5 - are all the features quick and realiable such as bluetooth?
i think thats it for now, i will start looking into the roms more from now on so i can hopefully just do it once and do it right the first time.
however if there are any chefs in london who are willing to build me a complete custom rom then PM me and we will discuss it further about the rom and pricing for your time ect...
THANKS in advance!!
1. The memory of some chef's ROMs can run as low as 40% on startup, moving up to about 50-60%. It depends. Look for the "lite" or "clean" ROMs for better memory.
2. The battery lasts me all day, heavy use through texting, phone calls, and internet. Using GPS, I'd imagine your battery would die fast, and phone calls don't seem to last longer than 3 hours before needing to be recharged.
3. Sadly, soft resets are needed for almost every WinMo device. That's the downside of all WinMo devices, though on the plus side, you get infinite customizability.
4. One of the most reliable ROMs with the most features is Valkyrie's ROM by Agent_47. I'm honestly no fanboy, but I have tried everyone else's ROMs, normal version, not lite or clean, and they all lack, or are crippled.
5. I don't use bluetooth, but wifi, phone signal, and GPS signal depend really on what radio you use. The different radios can be found in the ROM section. I use the most current one, .77, and I get good strength on all of the above.
thanks for the info, heres a bit more about my phone and its uage atm...
on the stock rom im using with using cleanram my phone runs around 60% - 70% but startup is just over 40%
Also i found my battery lasted 2 days when i had a 2gb card and now just over a day if im lucky with the 8gb card, so i may change it for a 4gb card which should be enough space for me.
Well, some clean and lite ROMs have as much as 80 MB free at start up (meaning, I believe that you would only have 20% on startup; any members can correct me if I'm wrong). I have only had 40% at most at startup, because I use feature packed ROMs.
I don't know anything about the SD card using more phone power, but you can give the 4 GB card a try. I get over 2 days on minimum usage with an 8 GB SD card. With max usage, as I said, I get about a full days use, with around 40-50% of battery life left.
also if anyone is local to me and wouldnt mind letting me have a quick play with there tp2 with a cooked rom to see how different it is to stock then please PM me
i went into a vodafone store today to double check about my warrenty, but after the 12 months manufacturer warrenty is over then vodafone have their own warrenty to cover the phone untill my contract is over.
now i know this im unsure if i should flash my rom now incase i do have anymore problems with the phone ??
what do you all suggest?
Just do the flash and get it over with You only have ONE first flash and then after that everything wont be as stressfull..
Also.. if you want to see what custom roms look like running on the phone just search for some custom roms on youtube. I'm sure you'll see some there. You'd get a more thurough view of what they do then if you were just bumbling around with it for 5 minutes on your own.
fair enough, i need to get my compuuter working then i guess to flash it!!
when tmo had a rom flash from wm 6.1 to 6.5, all i had to do was download the file...why are these roms on here implemented differently...???
da9th_one said:
when tmo had a rom flash from wm 6.1 to 6.5, all i had to do was download the file...why are these roms on here implemented differently...???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because custom ROM's don't have the critical "signature" that can only come from the manufacturer or carriers themselves. The stock SPL won't allow ROM's that don't have that signature, so that's why you have to replace SPL with a custom one when you want to flash ROM's issued by anybody than the carriers or HTC.
Sorry for the threadjack... but i was wondering the same things as the topic starter...
May i just add a few more questions?
*Roms like Energy, do they support BT and GPS?
*Is the problem with the sms lag (phone not waking on receiving) solved by a cooked rom?
*What are the major drawbacks when switching for standard to cooked? Ok the waranty is cancelled but anymore?
*I have a WWE version with WM6.5 ==> can i only install rom for 6.5 or can i install roms based on 6.1?
*I've looked at radios and the compatiblitylist... does this mean i have to install the wwe radio to get my device working?
feel free to ask questions here about roms ans im interested in the answers too
also the other week i saw a thread that had 2 cabs that make the TP2 run quicker and i had to get off of the laptop and now i cant find it. does anyone know what i mean if so can you help me locate the cabs.
Thanks
SMF_12 said:
also the other week i saw a thread that had 2 cabs that make the TP2 run quicker and i had to get off of the laptop and now i cant find it. does anyone know what i mean if so can you help me locate the cabs.
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know about two cabs to make it run faster, but there's two that will help with the memory management and help keep more of it free for you, is that what you're thinking about? They're called the SSK Dynamic Resource Proxy cab and the no push internet cab.
I recently flashed deepshining x7 rom and I can't believe I waited so long. My TP2 feels faster and I love all the options available such as Cookie's home tabe editor and the such. If you haven't already done so, I suggest you flash. You can always flash back to the original if you don't like it.
sirphunkee said:
I don't know about two cabs to make it run faster, but there's two that will help with the memory management and help keep more of it free for you, is that what you're thinking about? They're called the SSK Dynamic Resource Proxy cab and the no push internet cab.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think those are the ones and i will search for them when i am on next time, thanks!!!
SMF_12 said:
I think those are the ones and i will search for them when i am on next time, thanks!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here they are, just wanted to make sure we were thinking of the same things
thank you very much!! I wish this forum had a reputation thing like other forums
SMF_12 said:
thank you very much!! I wish this forum had a reputation thing like other forums
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You bet! And yeah, these are the first two cabs I recommend all new Rhodium owners run...I don't know if they'll clear up all your issues, but you should at least see a significant change in available RAM.
Ive just put them onto my phone and doing a soft reset!
Ive also changed to the windows today menu last night and its running a bit better with that!!
I have a Tilt 2, and although I love the phone, had it for two months now, it can be a clunker if I don't power it down frequently. Looking for a good, stable cooked ROM that will speed things up, get rid of the AT$T cotton candy and be able to use all the functions of the phone.
Anyone have a favorite. My current system is stock , (2.1.19183217.0)(is not sense version). Can I use Sense 2.1 or 2.5 on my phone?
pduncan said:
I have a Tilt 2, and although I love the phone, had it for two months now, it can be a clunker if I don't power it down frequently. Looking for a good, stable cooked ROM that will speed things up, get rid of the AT$T cotton candy and be able to use all the functions of the phone.
Anyone have a favorite. My current system is stock , (2.1.19183217.0)(is not sense version). Can I use Sense 2.1 or 2.5 on my phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The e2 ROM and the WCX ROM are both cooked specifically for the Tilt2. Your hardware keyboard should work with either one with no modifications or additional mapping.
It seems to me that the e2 ROM keeps a few more of the AT&T specific software, but in my opinion both ROM's are pretty much the same with personal preference being the deciding factor.
If you flash just about any other ROM, you will also have to install a cab to remap the keyboard to the AT&T setup, and may even have to do some modifications in the picture messaging.
e2 has a version without HTC Messaging which many people believe presents a lag problem in just about any ROM. He has a version with the older ArcSoft which is probably what you are used to.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644537
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681667
People always ask "what is the best ROM", but what is best depends on what you want in the ROM: aesthetics, features vs. lean & fast, what apps are cooked in, etc.
Personally, I've been using the Energy ROM on my Tilt2, and I love it. Great combination of eye candy, speed and stability. After you flash the ROM, just run the Carrier Provisioning in Tools, and it will map the keyboard to the ATT layout. Everything else works perfectly on ATT's network without any tweaking for me, NRG has already figured out the carrier specific settings to make it amazingly easy.
IMHO if you pick a ROM that is designed *specifically* for the Tilt2, then you are restricting your choice greatly. Most/all of the other ROMs should work fine on a Tilt2, just with a cab needed to map the keyboard (which is trivial).
I would ignore the Tilt2 bit, and just pick a ROM that looks good to you, and give it a try.
Yes, you can use either Sense 2.1 or Sense 2.5 on your phone, also there are other front-ends too, like Cookie, MaxSense, Titanium, etc, etc.
steviewevie said:
IMHO if you pick a ROM that is designed *specifically* for the Tilt2, then you are restricting your choice greatly. Most/all of the other ROMs should work fine on a Tilt2, just with a cab needed to map the keyboard (which is trivial).
I would ignore the Tilt2 bit, and just pick a ROM that looks good to you, and give it a try.
Yes, you can use either Sense 2.1 or Sense 2.5 on your phone, also there are other front-ends too, like Cookie, MaxSense, Titanium, etc, etc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you have a cab which will map the ENTIRE AT&T Tilt2 keyboard, I'd like for you to post it. I agree that it is trivial, BUT, I've never yet found a keyboard cab which will map ALL keys, including the OK key, to work properly. I have tried many different ROMs on my wife's Tilt2, and yes, many of them look great. However, IF it is important to you to have the AT&T mapping exactly right on all keys, like it is to my wife, I have not found any of the others which will do that with an "add-on" keyboard mapping cab. As I said in the beginning, if you have one which will do this, please, please, please, send it my way. It would open many doors, and many other ROMs for me to try.
Personally, I never even open the hardware keyboard on my Verizon Touch Pro2, so keyboard mapping is not a big deal to me, but the first thing she does when she pulls the Tilt2 out of her purse is pop open the keyboard, so that has been a big issue in our search for a good ROM for her use.
redpoint73 said:
People always ask "what is the best ROM", but what is best depends on what you want in the ROM: aesthetics, features vs. lean & fast, what apps are cooked in, etc.
Personally, I've been using the Energy ROM on my Tilt2, and I love it. Great combination of eye candy, speed and stability. After you flash the ROM, just run the Carrier Provisioning in Tools, and it will map the keyboard to the ATT layout. Everything else works perfectly on ATT's network without any tweaking for me, NRG has already figured out the carrier specific settings to make it amazingly easy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The problem I've had with Engery rom and every other rom that insists upon using transparent sliders and clocks is the "bleeding" through on the contacts page. In my opinion, that bleeding through looks very unprofessional and unfinished. See picture below:
Xebec said:
The problem I've had with Engery rom and every other rom that insists upon using transparent sliders and clocks is the "bleeding" through on the contacts page. In my opinion, that bleeding through looks very unprofessional and unfinished. See picture below:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So you would prefer to have the last row bottom completely covered?
stevedebi said:
So you would prefer to have the last row bottom completely covered?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, it is not really the last row, it scrolls up for even more rows. Once you scroll up past the slider bar, it would visible.
I like the energy roms but the e2 and wcx are the only ones with AT&Ts agps settings it seems. I've tried the .cab of AT&T nokia and google settings but it's still difficult getting a lock on other "generic" roms instead of the AT&T specific roms.
keyboard map
GaryMcQ said:
If you have a cab which will map the ENTIRE AT&T Tilt2 keyboard, I'd like for you to post it. I agree that it is trivial, BUT, I've never yet found a keyboard cab which will map ALL keys, including the OK key, to work properly. I have tried many different ROMs on my wife's Tilt2, and yes, many of them look great. However, IF it is important to you to have the AT&T mapping exactly right on all keys, like it is to my wife, I have not found any of the others which will do that with an "add-on" keyboard mapping cab. As I said in the beginning, if you have one which will do this, please, please, please, send it my way. It would open many doors, and many other ROMs for me to try.
Personally, I never even open the hardware keyboard on my Verizon Touch Pro2, so keyboard mapping is not a big deal to me, but the first thing she does when she pulls the Tilt2 out of her purse is pop open the keyboard, so that has been a big issue in our search for a good ROM for her use.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
try this. i use it on my tilt2 and havnt found any mapping issues. except for the OK key LOL but the OK key pops up bottom right, right next to you're thumb anyway.
Energy Rom gets my vote....awesome...a lot faster and more responsive than stock plus it looks better to me as well.
Guys, I have no need for ATT bloatware, HTC messaging, MS stuff like Marketplace, MyPhone, etc. Even stock music player is crap. Prefer to install separate programs. Free MB is of great interest. ROM working with GPS is a must. Functionality, speed, free space is much preferable to looks.
Could you give me some leads if you encountered any "lite" ROMs for ATT Tilt 2 out there?
Thanks.
pduncan said:
I have a Tilt 2, and although I love the phone, had it for two months now, it can be a clunker if I don't power it down frequently. Looking for a good, stable cooked ROM that will speed things up, get rid of the AT$T cotton candy and be able to use all the functions of the phone.
Anyone have a favorite. My current system is stock , (2.1.19183217.0)(is not sense version). Can I use Sense 2.1 or 2.5 on my phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Becareful!... this is how it starts, one innocent post and then bam! your a ROM junkie... On here day and night, chasing the dragon, looking for next best ROM.
Green Eyed Misfit said:
Becareful!... this is how it starts, one innocent post and then bam! your a ROM junkie... On here day and night, chasing the dragon, looking for next best ROM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Truer words were never spoken. I have no idea how, or when, even why it started. But man I'd like to have a quarter for every minute I've patrolled these forums searching for that ever elusive perfect ROM.
My name is Gary . . .and I'm a ROM junkie . . .
I have had my tilt2 for 3 weeks and I searched and searched for specific tilt2 stuff. Even though I was really nervous to flash it I flashed the "Energy Standard sense" ROM and it was great. I used the TILT2 keyboard cab and it worked perfectly. I use my Tilt2 on T-mobile so it had provisioning for that cooked in as well. I wanted a little more "polish" and adjustment to it and so I now have the "Energy Dinik Glass" (June.7) ROM and it is amazing! No issues so far.
Just an fyi...for some reason all the energy roms I have flashed have really slow touch sensitivity but within a few minutes and a soft reset everything is speedy as normal.
GaryMcQ said:
Truer words were never spoken. I have no idea how, or when, even why it started. But man I'd like to have a quarter for every minute I've patrolled these forums searching for that ever elusive perfect ROM.
My name is Gary . . .and I'm a ROM junkie . . .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652857
steviewevie said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652857
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks... i felt so alone!
Chasing the ROM dragon *LOL*
Guys, I must confess that I'm guilty of the same thing as well. However, I think that part of it is encoded into our DNA. The other part (if you're married to a penny pincher like I am) comes from our spouses. Let's be honest about this...guys love gadgets. That's why we have Spike TV & G4 (Thank God for G4!!) My point is this...since my wife won't let me go and buy the next latest, greatest phone each time a better one comes out, my only alternative is to change what I already have - hence the constant changing of ROMs.
Recently, it became a necessity because I had been a FUZE user and was devoted to TAEL's ROMs for quite some time. But then when I got the new car and the Tilt 2 was the only thing that would work on it (bluetooth car audio functions), I knew where I had to go to make the boring 'stock' Tilt 2 into something that I could use and be efficient and effective in my job. That's where NRG comes in. With no disrespect to the other ROM makers in the Tilt 2 forum, NRG has come through for me time and again. There are very nice things from the other guys, but NRG seems to know exactly what I NEED and he puts it out there. Mind you, I'm not even talking about the bleeding edge 23xxx stuff. I'm merely talking about the tried and true stable 21xxx ROMs that get delivered. Sure there's an occasional bug sometimes (who hasn't seen one?), but he's quick to fix them and the next release to us. (Which reminds me, I need to make a donation to him today because he has pulled my ass from the fire more times than I care to count.)
I'm sorry if I got on a soapbox, but this whole forum makes me very emotional. Before I knew how to flash ROMs and knew what was out there, a phone was merely a phone. But then all you guys came info my life and you shared your knowledge with me without condescension or bellittling.)
That's my two cents for what it's worth.
GulMiguel said:
...
That's my two cents for what it's worth.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I appreciate your post!
I see you are using ROM : EnergyROM 21903/Sense 2.5/Cookie Home Tab/May 16
It looks like I cannot get that anymore, therefore I need to go to:
Energy.RHODIUM.21905.Sense2.5.Cookie.Jun.11.7z
?
Thanks!
So there's really no way to completely remap the keys on a Touch Pro2 ROM to match the AT&T keyboard? I only got my TP2 a few weeks ago, but I've been travelling and haven't had the internet to test out many new ROMs (just threw on Energy ROM before I left). Been using an unmapped keyboard for a few weeks now...
Just curious if there's a better way.
I am new to flashing new ROM, but my phone is not. I have a friend who has flashed the ROM a few times on my phone. The phone operates but there is functionality that I would like to see that maybe a new ROM would be better for me. Right now I don't know that I could tell you what ROM I have. I would also like to know if my phone has HardSPL. I guess to start, I would like to know how to figure out what ROM I have so that I can ask more questions and get some better help.
Take off the battery cover. Holding the volume-down button, use the stylus to push (the release) the soft reset button. Keep holding the volume down until the 3-color screen shows up. This is called the bootloader. If your phone is already HardSPL'ed, the second line of text on the 3-color screen should have the word "Olinex" at the end of it.
If your phone has had custom ROMs flashed before, it will still be HardSPL'ed, unless your friend purposely re-locked the SPL. In other words, the SPL remains unlocked unless you specifically lock it again.
To get out of the bootloader, just hit the soft reset button again.
Ok, so it does have HardSPL. Where do I find what ROM I am running. The rest of the lines read:
RHOD300 32M SS-BC
SPL-0.85.OliNex
MicroP(LED) 0x0A
MicroP(KEY) 0x04
TURBO HW/Turbo SW
TP MFG DATA
509,521 796,836
803,215 210,213
215,840 Calibrated
haus en heimer said:
Where do I find what ROM I am running.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When you actually powerup the phone, there should be 4 rows of red letters/number at the bottom left corner of the screen. Sometimes, the chef will put the name (or part of the name) of the ROM in the last row, but not always.
Also, you can look at the ROM version under Start>Settings>System>Device Information>Software Information. Again, I'm not sure if the name of custom ROMs is always displayed here.
What kind of functions are you looking for in a ROM?
ROM version - WWE 28.Aug.2010
Basically this ROM is what I am looking for but there are too many issues with it. I use my phone primarily for business so I usually do not need a lot of the frill features. I want to be able to have full functionality of the following items (no glitches): email, text messaging, call recording, contacts, internet sharing, and wifi router (for tethering to my laptop).
Right now I have the following issues: I will send a text, but the recipients do not get it (it is not the carrier). This does not happen all the time. sometimes my phone tells me that the message did not send, and I can try again. Sometimes it just never gets sent. When I get off a phone call there is a screen that pops up that says would you like to save this contact. when I click either "create new contact" or "add to existing", nothings happens. There are times also that the phone is just very slow...usually doing something simple like trying to open a browser page or text message. I usually have to reboot my phone every other day to fix this. When this is happening there is no programs running in my task manager. My final complaint is that the internet browser is VERY slow. My girlfriend has an iphone 3G with the same service that I have sitting right next to me and her internet is easily 5x faster than mine. Mine is almost unbearable.
I do not think I have any issues with email. My phone recorder works just fine.
What country, carrier?
I've never had that issue adding a caller as a contact, so I'm not familiar with that. And the only time I've had a problem with a text going through is when the reception is poor.
A custom ROM can possibly get you much better speed and stability over the stock ROM. But its not clear to me whether you are on stock or a custom ROM.
What browser are you using?
USA, ATT
I am running some version of energy rom, not stock. I just do not know which version.
I use opera browser.
Is there a splash screen that says Energy when you power up the phone? Every recent Energy ROM has had this (for as long as I've been using them, since May 2010).
Also, for Energy ROM, it usually says Energy in the bottom line of red letter/numbers in the lower left corner of the screen when you startup the phone.
It does, but it goes pretty quickly it is hard to get all the numbers. Energy is on that splash screen.
Windows Mobile is laggy by nature; and there is also a known, frequent memory leak problem with WM which slows down the phone until you power off/on the phone. WM is an old platform, and its no wonder that Microsoft is completely re-vamping the OS from the ground up, for Windows Phone 7. Periodically restarting the phone, or using CleanRAM (just use the XDA search function to find it) can help alleviate the memory leak issue somewhat. Its tough to say from your description whether the lag you are experiencing is typical WM behavior, or something else is going on.
I use Opera 9.7 as well for my browser. The actual download speed seems comparable to my wife's iPhone 3GS in unscientific testing. But the rendering speed when you scroll or zoom is much worse in Opera than on the iPhone. If that is what you are experiencing, there is not much that can be done. You can try Opera 10, which some people like better than 9.7. But it doesn't have a scalable zoom (only 2 zoom levels).
I used various builds of Energy for a long time, but I never had the issue with the caller contact, or texts. Overall, many users been pleased with the speed/stability of the Energy ROM. NRG does a good job on his ROMs, considering its Windows Mobile. You can try to flash other ROMs, which are a little more "lightweight" or better at managing the memory. But the improvements might not be quite what you are looking for. Its possible you have a bad flash, and re-flashing may fix your bugs. But I don't think you are going to see a huge improvement otherwise.
On the other hand, you have little to lose in flashing a new ROM (and it actually pretty fun, once you learn the basic steps). NRG is constantly tweaking his ROMs to squeeze a little more performance out of WM. Or you can try other more lightweight ROMs. People seem to like Jacko's and Valkyrie for cleaner ROMs. I'm trying out Simplicity right now, myself.
Overclocking the phone's CPU is another option for squeezing a bit more performance out of it. Look on the Themes and Apps subforum for the overclocking tools.
I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that the last time you flashed the ROM was around the end of August or beginning of September, right? More than likely, you're using an August 28th version of the Energy ROM. Don't worry, I'm not psychic. There was a bug in that version only that prevented saving to contacts after a call. It has never surfaced again since then.
You could simply flash a newer version of the ROM from the thread or try a different ROM altogether as redpoint suggests. Head over to the Energy ROM thread and pick a new one. Since you've already got the Hard SPL done, grab the task29 tool and stock ROM, and you're in business.
Install the stock ROM, then run task29, then flash the new ROM. All done. Make sure to back up your files before doing anything as this will erase all of your data.
How do I re-flash or install a new ROM, now knowing what you know about my phone? I am a noob, if you did not know that already!
haus en heimer said:
How do I re-flash or install a new ROM, now knowing what you know about my phone? I am a noob, if you did not know that already!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Look one post up. I just told you. You need to first install the stock ROM. It's a simple exe file that runs from your PC.
After that, run the task29 program. It's two files. Leave the .nbh file alone. All you have to do is run the CustomRUU.exe file and follow the prompts. This will erase every bit of data on the device. When the progress bar gets to 100%, hold the volume down button to return to the bootloader screen.
You then need to run the Rhodium_SoftwareUpgrade.exe that is included with the ROM you want to flash. The download is normally two files just like the task29. Leave the .nbh file alone again.
If you have any questions about these programs direct them to the appropriate thread for that topic. It's time to jump in. You have a lot of reading to do. No more holding your hand here, so to speak.
redpoint73 said:
Windows Mobile is laggy by nature; and there is also a known, frequent memory leak problem with WM which slows down the phone until you power off/on the phone. WM is an old platform, and its no wonder that Microsoft is completely re-vamping the OS from the ground up, for Windows Phone 7. Periodically restarting the phone, or using CleanRAM (just use the XDA search function to find it) can help alleviate the memory leak issue somewhat. Its tough to say from your description whether the lag you are experiencing is typical WM behavior, or something else is going on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Definitely not true.
Jackos said:
Definitely not true.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If that is not true, what causes my problem? Which ROM do you prefer, that does not act like that?
Jackos said:
Definitely not true.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You know more than I, so I differ to you, of course.
But care to elaborate? My understanding is that WM has a big memory leak issue out of the box. I know its something you've addressed on your ROMs. But the issue is there to start.
haus en heimer said:
If that is not true, what causes my problem? Which ROM do you prefer, that does not act like that?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, Jacko is going to recommend to you his own ROMs, of course!
redpoint73 said:
Well, Jacko is going to recommend to you his own ROMs, of course!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks like you don't know me at all. I recommend simplicity (used to recommend LBFAR too, but it's discontinued).
Yeah, you understand that WM has a memory leakage out of the box. That's what the famous chef said. Nothing more wrong then that. Did you ever tried a clean WM rom? Without any additional soft by other developers. It doesn't leak memory at all! I used to work on my old ASUS A639 for weeks without softreset.
The problem is that a lot of "skilled" chefs have no idea how to care about memory leaks and they claim it to be a issue they cannot fix. Bull****. I'll never agree with this.
A issue that I addressed in my roms? Nope, it's something I'm preventing from happening.
Jackos said:
Looks like you don't know me at all. I recommend simplicity (used to recommend LBFAR too, but it's discontinued).
Yeah, you understand that WM has a memory leakage out of the box. That's what the famous chef said. Nothing more wrong then that. Did you ever tried a clean WM rom? Without any additional soft by other developers. It doesn't leak memory at all! I used to work on my old ASUS A639 for weeks without softreset.
The problem is that a lot of "skilled" chefs have no idea how to care about memory leaks and they claim it to be a issue they cannot fix. Bull****. I'll never agree with this.
A issue that I addressed in my roms? Nope, it's something I'm preventing from happening.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have to agree with Jackos here. I've been playing with my own personal ROM for months now and I've never ever had memory leak issues. It's related to some of the "tweaks" that other chef put into their ROMs. Jackos ROM, in my opinion, is one of a few that don't "leak" memory all over the place. I normally use Energy ROM because it is flashy, however it does use more memory than any other one right out of the box.
Memory leaks are a product of the chef, not the build.