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Ok, I recently bought a used iPad from a developer, he is upgrading to iPad2.
Anyway, I have been playing with the iPad for the last couple days, and didn't touch my Windows Phone 7 until just now.
I don't know why fanbois are bragging about iOS. I just couldn't believe how smooth the aesthetic of Windows Phone 7 is. I was actually bored with it, and think I'll sell the iPad on craigslist. I wish Microsoft would do Windows Phone 7 slate...it would so awesome!
there is a lot of strong rumours going on about Windows 8 (that's right, continuation of Windows 7, not Windows Phone 7) being very tablet focused as well. And amoung those rumours are that they might take a few aspects of Windows Phone 7, but not sure at this stage. And there is also a rumour that they'll show off Windows 8's UI at the All things D confrence in June.
Its just my though on the whole thing but I believe the LG e900 is not been credited for what it really is. I've been through 2 Samsung wp7 phones Omnia 7 and Focus, also used the htc surround and the LG stacks up good if not better.
The sleekness the LG apps are simple the best. I was comparing the screen from the focus to the optimus 7 and the difference is really minimal. Its such a shame the internet reviews don't say how good this phone really is.
Next WP I'll be looking out for Nokia and LG
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jamreal said:
Its just my though on the whole thing but I believe the LG e900 is not been credited for what it really is. I've been through 2 Samsung wp7 phones Omnia 7 and Focus, also used the htc surround and the LG stacks up good if not better.
The sleekness the LG apps are simple the best. I was comparing the screen from the focus to the optimus 7 and the difference is really minimal. Its such a shame the internet reviews don't say how good this phone really is.
Next WP I'll be looking out for Nokia and LG
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Do you tether with this phone? I'm currently waiting on a BB Torch, but if I feel it's a little to under-powered for what I am looking for, I'll likely be trading it in for either an Optimus 7 or a Nexus S.
With that said, I hate the Android UI compared to the WP7 (which I consider extremely good).
No, I thing the only way to tether is if you jailbreak.
Personally if your getting a phone for tethering purposes you should get the nexus. Blackberry ar kinda lame ATM.
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Are you saying that LG Optimus 7 is actually better than Samsung Omnia 7?
Purple11 said:
Are you saying that LG Optimus 7 is actually better than Samsung Omnia 7?
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It depends. The Omnia 7 has a Super AMOLED screen, the Optimus 7 doesn't have update problems.
jamreal said:
I was comparing the screen from the focus to the optimus 7 and the difference is really minimal. Its such a shame the internet reviews don't say how good this phone really is.
Next WP I'll be looking out for Nokia and LG
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While I do agree it's a great phone, and probably one of the best current WP7 devices on the market, I'm not sure how you can say the screen difference is minimal... the plain old LCD on the Optimus really looks washed out compared the AMOLED if you ask me.
Also most of the reviews for the LG that I've read have been very positive. It's just not a very "exciting" phone.
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While I do agree it's a great phone, and probably one of the best current WP7 devices on the market, I'm not sure how you can say the screen difference is minimal... the plain old LCD on the Optimus really looks washed out compared the AMOLED if you ask me.
Also most of the reviews for the LG that I've read have been very positive. It's just not a very "exciting" phone.
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implying the Surround was "exciting" (which has better cred than the e900).
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Are you saying that LG Optimus 7 is actually better than Samsung Omnia 7?
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I own both devices, and I can say I prefer the Optimus 7.
Of course the Omnia 7 is beautiful, has a great S-AMOLED screen... but:
- The LG is more reliable (no update problems, no other bugs that I found on the Omnia 7).
- LG has 16GB storage, when my Omnia has only a pathetic outdated 8GB
- LG has DLNA
- LG has great specific apps: Scan Search, Metro Scan, Speech to Text, Panorama photos... Whereas Samsung apps are lame.
- LG has real physical buttons (this is great)
- LG has the best battery life.
So yes, I love this phone.
I bought my Samsung Omnia 7 whole two months ago and since day one till today it has never once crashed on me yet. I want to see it crash so that I can look, how it looks.
The Screen and with combination of Gorilla glass technology makes it look really premium phone and I have 16GB Memory phone, only 513USD from Expansys-USA.
No Updates Problem or anything for me, everything went smooth and in pace ..
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I bought my Samsung Omnia 7 whole two months ago and since day one till today it has never once crashed on me yet. I want to see it crash so that I can look, how it looks.
The Screen and with combination of Gorilla glass technology makes it look really premium phone and I have 16GB Memory phone, only 513USD from Expansys-USA.
No Updates Problem or anything for me, everything went smooth and in pace ..
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The Optimus 7 has Gorilla Glass, too.
And no update problems? Microsoft halted all updates for the Omnia 7 for quite a while, because Samsung messed up the firmware. A friend received the February and NoDo update last week.
The best feature of the Optimus 7 is the built in registry editor. This makes it the ONLY Windows Phone that can be unlocked at every time without the need of a computer. It also makes unlocking future proof
The Samsung screens are better I must say.
I don't know what screen tech the optimus 7 uses but it way better than the HTC. Seriously its nowhere washed out. Moving on from the screen thou the build quality is soooo much better on the LG, the buttons are great the ohone is mostly metal unlike the plastic feel on focus. And as someone mention above, the LG apps are something to Wow about compare samgsung. I yes I do own both phones they're next to me right now.
( Get Samsung if your all abt the screen tech
( Get LG if you want a overall phone sleekness,apps no bugs etc.
P.s my focus refuses to connect to my pc just show up has unknown USB which is what lead me to the LG.
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tether on LG phones is possibly the easiest of all current wp7 devices. you just need to bring out the MFG app and use it to change the port setting. doesn't involve jailbreaking or any zune hacking. you can also edit registry using that app.
i can't believe nobody mentioned this MFG app yet. greatest thing on wp7 ever.
one of the reasons the optimus 7 has sold badly because many of the initial units had defective bluetooth chipsets ... i actually just bought one a few weeks ago and it has the dodgy bluetooth as well (dead chipset)
waiting for lg to fix it (in the uk they initially tell customers its an ms bug !)
i looked at a hd7 optimus and omnia side by side the hd7s screen was dull in comparison to the others and seemed slower ... the samsung just a bit better and bigger
the samsung camera was way better
i got the lg as they were hugely discounting it (as opposed to samsung which would have been my choice)
I can only speak from one side of the fence here as I have owned my Omnia 7 since November last year. I haven't managed to have a play with an Optimus 7 either...
However given the choice I am not sure I would choose the Omnia 7 with the benefit of hindsight. I am still yet to receive the 7392 update and MS have given no indication of when Orange Omnia 7 customers are likely to get it either.
It is a real pain every time an update is released you have the worry about whether it is actually going to install or cause problems with your phone. (I was updated to a faulty bootloader).
Yes the hardware is fantastic, wonderful screen and nice sturdy metal chassis but that can only account for so much. Honestly given the choice of any handset at the moment the Optimus 7 would probably be the one I would seriously look at getting.
That has not been my experience. I originally had a lg optimus 7 that was sent for RMA twice and they didn't fix anything, eventually sold it. I got the samsung focus and love it so much more than the lg.
basically the quality of optimus 7 is generally poor compared to the samsungs
I hate LG phones from the bottom of my soul (LOL)
Build quality sucks as hell and it has too many touch bugs (my experience with others LG phones, not Optimus 7).
I have a Samsung Omnia 7 and before, I had a Samsung Wave S8500 (Bada).
I just LOVE the metal body of Samsung's phones and the Super AMOLED screens.
I have ZERO problems with updates and my Omnia 7 has 16gb internal memory too !!
I dont know how much LG price is, but if it costs same around 500USD for a piece like Samsung Omnia here in US, I would definitely buy Omnia than LG. I can wait if my Nodo is two weeks late.. as long as it is coming after two weeks.
When people compare these phones they forget to compare the price.
Put samsung on one side, put 500 dollars cash in middle, and than LG oval shaped phone..
Now look and see which one is better for same 500 dollars in middle.. press the power on button to get switch on the home screen if you are in doubt.. you will know the better choice.
$500? Well people in the UK must be in luck becus I paid £160 brand new compare to my focus that I paid £300 for. Not to mention my focus will no longer connect to my pc. My Lg plays music so much louder.
Can I say the Samsung screens really only look good at very bright settings put it on low n it looks crap ( In my eyes ) lol.
End of the day 2 good phones but focus not wort a full £140 extra in my case.
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There are Android tablets and the iPads, are there tablets on the market running WP7?
No, microsoft products go on things called 'slates', which have existed long before tablets and the iPad, but are always better. Even the older slates are better than modern tablet...
But they cost a pretty penny. You won't find one for less than $1,000
They run full blown Windows 7.
Soon they'll run Windows 8
There will never be a WP7 tablet.
you mean something like Samsung series 7?
what you are looking at is windows 8, those will be the tablets with the metro interface(aka wp interface)
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No, microsoft products go on things called 'slates', which have existed long before tablets and the iPad, but are always better. Even the older slates are better than modern tablet...
But they cost a pretty penny. You won't find one for less than $1,000
They run full blown Windows 7.
Soon they'll run Windows 8
There will never be a WP7 tablet.
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I completely disagree.
I tried one out a few weeks ago. Couldn't even get the fershlugginer keyboard to stay up. I'd click on a type area... it would freeze first of all.. then the keyboard would pop up. As soon as I went to touch it, it would disappear.
After about 4 minutes of this, I slowly put it down, walked away, and will never touch another Windows 'slate'.
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I completely disagree.
I tried one out a few weeks ago. Couldn't even get the fershlugginer keyboard to stay up. I'd click on a type area... it would freeze first of all.. then the keyboard would pop up. As soon as I went to touch it, it would disappear.
After about 4 minutes of this, I slowly put it down, walked away, and will never touch another Windows 'slate'.
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so you had one bad experience with a particular slate, and you will never touch another Windows slate? Blaming everything on the OS?
I'm using a Windows 8 in my laptop (without touch screen), and I think, it is very fast.
But if we put WP7 on tablet... uhh, bizarre
Supposedly Nokia and some Chinese companies are racing to make $200.00 tablets that run Windows 8 by mid or late this year.
link68759 said:
No, microsoft products go on things called 'slates', which have existed long before tablets and the iPad, but are always better. Even the older slates are better than modern tablet...
But they cost a pretty penny. You won't find one for less than $1,000
They run full blown Windows 7.
Soon they'll run Windows 8
There will never be a WP7 tablet.
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I've read so many claims that windows 7 on tablets is superior to ipad/android its deafening. The problem is, I've never seen one being used as a tablet, or being used period, other than in stores. Never met one person that has liked w7 on a tablet, but the internet is full of gushing reviews. Weird.
i for one don't care for 800x480 stretched over a 7" screen.
I've got a leno multitouch netbook running the developer edition (pre beta here guys) of windows 8 and it runs awesome. Even snappier then windows 7 on it. The netbook by no means has stellar specs either. Its similar to but definitely not identical to the wp7 interface. When I bring it out in public though I get a lot of interested people asking questions as they see me swiping the metro interface back and forth to open applications.
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I've got a Samsung Series 7 Slate and I'm loving it so far. Its fairly powerful, and the form factor is fantastic. I set up a separate partition and loaded up Windows 8 on it. Windows 8 works very well on a tablet. Its very responsive and intuitive. It does crash occasionally but what do you expect for a beta build.
FinancialWar said:
There are Android tablets and the iPads, are there tablets on the market running WP7?
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Hm...very interesting and very funny idea.
I'll try it gladly, but my laptop's scrreen resolution is only xX768 :crying:
But I am happy with Windows 8 :good:
Was all set to buy a Note 8 but the Asus Vivotab 8 has caught my eye, looks pretty good. And I love Win 8.1. Really!
Big thing for me is the pen of course, and being able to circle from one document and paste into another (eg multi windows side by side). Not certain how OneNote or the Vivotab will be with that, but of course the Galaxy handles that brilliantly. Big plus for Samsung... should do what it says on the tin.
What puts me off is the thought that there might be something new from Samsung about to come along... an improved Note 8? Tempted to hold off!
If anyone has compared the 2 side by side and can offer an opinion I'd be really grateful!
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badfelafel said:
Was all set to buy a Note 8 but the Asus Vivotab 8 has caught my eye, looks pretty good. And I love Win 8.1. Really!
Big thing for me is the pen of course, and being able to circle from one document and paste into another (eg multi windows side by side). Not certain how OneNote or the Vivotab will be with that, but of course the Galaxy handles that brilliantly. Big plus for Samsung... should do what it says on the tin.
What puts me off is the thought that there might be something new from Samsung about to come along... an improved Note 8? Tempted to hold off!
If anyone has compared the 2 side by side and can offer an opinion I'd be really grateful!
Thx
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Well I chose the Note 8.0 because I could get em new at low cost. Thought about the Venu Pro 8.0 but tired of MS. I don't think I'll ever go beyond my Windows 7 X64, until Ubuntu gets better. Maybe I am harsh on Linux but I could never get it to run right with the hardware I got. Geezo it is about 10 years old, and I can't believe Windows is the only stable OS that runs decent. Well put that as a plus for your 8.1 purchase.
i was considering buying this tablet and was wondering if there is a list somewhere i can see that has no touchscreen or speaker problems
All Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) are faulty. There is no "perfect" batch.
Some early batches used to have dirt behind the glass ( I had 2x of them in my hands before I finally got one without dirt ).
Other batches had some faulty pixels. The Touchscreen bug is common for all batches too ( while some devices react more severe than others ). Some people complain about "light bleeding" too...but let´s be honest, this is not a error at all. I will rather accept a device with "light bleeding" instead of a device with dirt or broken pixels
The sound issue is common to all devices because of Asus having saved too much $$$ on each device. I fixed my issues though.
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All Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) are faulty. There is no "perfect" batch.
Some early batches used to have dirt behind the glass ( I had 2x of them in my hands before I finally got one without dirt ).
Other batches had some faulty pixels. The Touchscreen bug is common for all batches too ( while some devices react more severe than others ). Some people complain about "light bleeding" too...but let´s be honest, this is not a error at all. I will rather accept a device with "light bleeding" instead of a device with dirt or broken pixels
The sound issue is common to all devices because of Asus having saved too much $$$ on each device. I fixed my issues though.
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was considering this over the galaxy tab pro/s 8.4 because i like the look of n7 more and its less expensive but i cant make up my mind about the problems it has. the first gen also had problems with the display but that was present in early batches
The Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) is still a nice device though. If you want fast updates and love to thinker around, you might still like it. Samsung offers a better build quality though but the software updates are a mess. I don´t think that I will ever touch a Samsung device again
If you don´t care about the latest Android updates, you might also consider other brands
I haven't had any problems with mine.
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All Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) are faulty. There is no "perfect" batch.
Some early batches used to have dirt behind the glass ( I had 2x of them in my hands before I finally got one without dirt ).
Other batches had some faulty pixels. The Touchscreen bug is common for all batches too ( while some devices react more severe than others ). Some people complain about "light bleeding" too...but let´s be honest, this is not a error at all. I will rather accept a device with "light bleeding" instead of a device with dirt or broken pixels
The sound issue is common to all devices because of Asus having saved too much $$$ on each device. I fixed my issues though.
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Not all are faulty, mine is absolutely flawless. No dead pixels, no wonky touchscreen, no reboots, nothing. Of course I had to exchange it 4 times to get a flawless one but that's beside the point.
i really dont care about the fast updates, i care much about the design. samsung tablets all look the same and the 8.4 tab s which i wanted to buy looks like a big damn phone. i like the minimalistic design with no logo or buttons on the front. i also considered the g tab 8.3 but dont really want an lg tablet. i might even consider the nexus 9 but even that has problems and is a bit expensive. google should pay more attention to their flagship products. my first generation nexus 7 worked flawlesly for 2 years and was in perfect condition but simply died one day all of a sudden and i swore i wouldnt buy another asus tablet again but there is simply no other good looking budget tablet out there.
Have you ever considered the Nvidia Shield tablet?
I currently have the Nexus 7 LTE for a little over a year. I still love the tablet, but the touchscreen issues have become unbearable. The Shield looks like a promising alternative.
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auleu said:
i really dont care about the fast updates, i care much about the design. samsung tablets all look the same and the 8.4 tab s which i wanted to buy looks like a big damn phone. i like the minimalistic design with no logo or buttons on the front. i also considered the g tab 8.3 but dont really want an lg tablet. i might even consider the nexus 9 but even that has problems and is a bit expensive. google should pay more attention to their flagship products. my first generation nexus 7 worked flawlesly for 2 years and was in perfect condition but simply died one day all of a sudden and i swore i wouldnt buy another asus tablet again but there is simply no other good looking budget tablet out there.
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Nvidia Shield tablet or Dell Venue 8 7000. Both amazing tablets, but they serve different purposes. If it's gaming you're into then get the Shield. If you just want an awesome tablet for browsing etc., then go for the Dell.
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Nvidia Shield tablet or Dell Venue 8 7000. Both amazing tablets, but they serve different purposes. If it's gaming you're into then get the Shield. If you just want an awesome tablet for browsing etc., then go for the Dell.
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shield tablet is expensive here, and even that has some serious problems. i think i will go with the g pad 8.3 in black version. in every review i saw it was performing better than the nexus 7, has a larger display like i wanted and comes with no touchscreen or speaker problems, then ill flash an aosp rom on it . the n7 and g pad have the same price and i think its a good replacement till i get the refresh n9.
I got my N7 2013 off Groupon this month and I wasn't sure what I'd wind up with.. Zero problems, no dead/stuck pixels, no problem with touch, haven't noticed any sound issues, etc.
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shield tablet is expensive here, and even that has some serious problems. i think i will go with the g pad 8.3 in black version. in every review i saw it was performing better than the nexus 7, has a larger display like i wanted and comes with no touchscreen or speaker problems, then ill flash an aosp rom on it . the n7 and g pad have the same price and i think its a good replacement till i get the refresh n9.
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I have a thing against all LG products, I would personally much rather have the Dell Venue 8 7000. How much is the Dell compared to the Gpad where you live? Have you looked into the Dell yet? It's probably the coolest tablet I have ever seen.
I still insist that all Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) are faulty and the Touchscreen is buggy. You might not notice the error because most the time you won´t use 3 fingers or more on it. But trust me on this, once you check the screen with test tools and try to use > 3 fingers....it will go apesh*t.
Still the Touchscreen can be usable but some guys will notice "stuck letters" or "ghost touches" from time to time. These errors can be fixed though, up to a point where the touchscreen will be reliable with 5 fingers on it.
The grounding issue and audio bug is also present on some devices, due to a faulty PCB. Maybe Asus might have fixed these errors but I cannot check this out since my batch is one of the first ever released. I fixed the errors myself and never ever had any trouble again. But still this is a reason for me to avoid another Asus device.
You don´t buy a new car and need to repair it first, in order to drive it..
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I still insist that all Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) are faulty and the Touchscreen is buggy. You might not notice the error because most the time you won´t use 3 fingers or more on it. But trust me on this, once you check the screen with test tools and try to use > 3 fingers....it will go apesh*t.
Still the Touchscreen can be usable but some guys will notice "stuck letters" or "ghost touches" from time to time. These errors can be fixed though, up to a point where the touchscreen will be reliable with 5 fingers on it.
The grounding issue and audio bug is also present on some devices, due to a faulty PCB. Maybe Asus might have fixed these errors but I cannot check this out since my batch is one of the first ever released. I fixed the errors myself and never ever had any trouble again. But still this is a reason for me to avoid another Asus device.
You don´t buy a new car and need to repair it first, in order to drive it..
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Insist all you want but I assure you mine is fine. I have had Multitiouch visualizer and one other test app installed since the day I got it and have tried numerous times to replicate the issues that people are having and have been unable to. I've tested with 2 all the way to 10 fingers- tracking is fine, all touches register, no ghost touches... perfect. My touchscreen works the way every touchscreen should. I promise you, my tablet is flawless.
Just had 8 fingers on my touchscreen with no issues what so ever. Had no problems with dead pixels or the speakers either. :highfive:
On the subject of the G pad, I had one for 24 hours which turned out to be faulty, (USB port.) In those 24 hours, I was very pleased with the speed, build quality and screen. I didnt like the bloat and some stupid decisions like the lack of a recents button. I've now got rid of my Nexus 5 for the LG G2. It has all bloat issues of the G pad but you can deal with them.
To sum up, I'd go with the G pad 8.3 if the price was the same.
If you can find GPE edition, that would be like nexus but on 8".[emoji3]
Masteryates said:
Just had 8 fingers on my touchscreen with no issues what so ever. Had no problems with dead pixels or the speakers either. :highfive:
On the subject of the G pad, I had one for 24 hours which turned out to be faulty, (USB port.) In those 24 hours, I was very pleased with the speed, build quality and screen. I didnt like the bloat and some stupid decisions like the lack of a recents button. I've now got rid of my Nexus 5 for the LG G2. It has all bloat issues of the G pad but you can deal with them.
To sum up, I'd go with the G pad 8.3 if the price was the same.
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Is a lg g2 still worth it, looking into buying a new phone haha, i know this is not the right forum but I couldn't resist asking.
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If you cannot find a Nexus 5, it might be worth it
noahvt said:
Is a lg g2 still worth it, looking into buying a new phone haha, i know this is not the right forum but I couldn't resist asking.
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If you can sell the Nexus 5 and then use that Money for the g2 outright, it's Deffo an upgrade. You will need to root though to get it how you want it. Battery life is out of this world.
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Is a lg g2 still worth it, looking into buying a new phone haha, i know this is not the right forum but I couldn't resist asking.
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Get a Moto X, it blows the G2 out of the water and it's about to go on sale. Or if you can wait a month and can afford it then get that Saygus V2. That thing is like a wet dream. I cant stand anything LG, the N5 is the sole exception.