[Q] Holding off buying Note 8, see Asus Vivotab Note 8 - Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti

Was all set to buy a Note 8 but the Asus Vivotab 8 has caught my eye, looks pretty good. And I love Win 8.1. Really!
Big thing for me is the pen of course, and being able to circle from one document and paste into another (eg multi windows side by side). Not certain how OneNote or the Vivotab will be with that, but of course the Galaxy handles that brilliantly. Big plus for Samsung... should do what it says on the tin.
What puts me off is the thought that there might be something new from Samsung about to come along... an improved Note 8? Tempted to hold off!
If anyone has compared the 2 side by side and can offer an opinion I'd be really grateful!
Thx

badfelafel said:
Was all set to buy a Note 8 but the Asus Vivotab 8 has caught my eye, looks pretty good. And I love Win 8.1. Really!
Big thing for me is the pen of course, and being able to circle from one document and paste into another (eg multi windows side by side). Not certain how OneNote or the Vivotab will be with that, but of course the Galaxy handles that brilliantly. Big plus for Samsung... should do what it says on the tin.
What puts me off is the thought that there might be something new from Samsung about to come along... an improved Note 8? Tempted to hold off!
If anyone has compared the 2 side by side and can offer an opinion I'd be really grateful!
Thx
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Well I chose the Note 8.0 because I could get em new at low cost. Thought about the Venu Pro 8.0 but tired of MS. I don't think I'll ever go beyond my Windows 7 X64, until Ubuntu gets better. Maybe I am harsh on Linux but I could never get it to run right with the hardware I got. Geezo it is about 10 years old, and I can't believe Windows is the only stable OS that runs decent. Well put that as a plus for your 8.1 purchase.

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WP7 Tablets?

There are Android tablets and the iPads, are there tablets on the market running WP7?
No, microsoft products go on things called 'slates', which have existed long before tablets and the iPad, but are always better. Even the older slates are better than modern tablet...
But they cost a pretty penny. You won't find one for less than $1,000
They run full blown Windows 7.
Soon they'll run Windows 8
There will never be a WP7 tablet.
you mean something like Samsung series 7?
what you are looking at is windows 8, those will be the tablets with the metro interface(aka wp interface)
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No, microsoft products go on things called 'slates', which have existed long before tablets and the iPad, but are always better. Even the older slates are better than modern tablet...
But they cost a pretty penny. You won't find one for less than $1,000
They run full blown Windows 7.
Soon they'll run Windows 8
There will never be a WP7 tablet.
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I completely disagree.
I tried one out a few weeks ago. Couldn't even get the fershlugginer keyboard to stay up. I'd click on a type area... it would freeze first of all.. then the keyboard would pop up. As soon as I went to touch it, it would disappear.
After about 4 minutes of this, I slowly put it down, walked away, and will never touch another Windows 'slate'.
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I completely disagree.
I tried one out a few weeks ago. Couldn't even get the fershlugginer keyboard to stay up. I'd click on a type area... it would freeze first of all.. then the keyboard would pop up. As soon as I went to touch it, it would disappear.
After about 4 minutes of this, I slowly put it down, walked away, and will never touch another Windows 'slate'.
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so you had one bad experience with a particular slate, and you will never touch another Windows slate? Blaming everything on the OS?
I'm using a Windows 8 in my laptop (without touch screen), and I think, it is very fast.
But if we put WP7 on tablet... uhh, bizarre
Supposedly Nokia and some Chinese companies are racing to make $200.00 tablets that run Windows 8 by mid or late this year.
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No, microsoft products go on things called 'slates', which have existed long before tablets and the iPad, but are always better. Even the older slates are better than modern tablet...
But they cost a pretty penny. You won't find one for less than $1,000
They run full blown Windows 7.
Soon they'll run Windows 8
There will never be a WP7 tablet.
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I've read so many claims that windows 7 on tablets is superior to ipad/android its deafening. The problem is, I've never seen one being used as a tablet, or being used period, other than in stores. Never met one person that has liked w7 on a tablet, but the internet is full of gushing reviews. Weird.
i for one don't care for 800x480 stretched over a 7" screen.
I've got a leno multitouch netbook running the developer edition (pre beta here guys) of windows 8 and it runs awesome. Even snappier then windows 7 on it. The netbook by no means has stellar specs either. Its similar to but definitely not identical to the wp7 interface. When I bring it out in public though I get a lot of interested people asking questions as they see me swiping the metro interface back and forth to open applications.
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I've got a Samsung Series 7 Slate and I'm loving it so far. Its fairly powerful, and the form factor is fantastic. I set up a separate partition and loaded up Windows 8 on it. Windows 8 works very well on a tablet. Its very responsive and intuitive. It does crash occasionally but what do you expect for a beta build.
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There are Android tablets and the iPads, are there tablets on the market running WP7?
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Hm...very interesting and very funny idea.
I'll try it gladly, but my laptop's scrreen resolution is only xX768 :crying:
But I am happy with Windows 8 :good:

Considering RT Tablet (Vivo TF600T vs Surface)

Hey,
I'm planning to get a RT tablet and I have looked at relative comparisons of both of them.
Unfortunately there weren't many comparisons that I could find online so I decided to post here.
I also understand that the T100TA may be the better option.
So two questions (If you've owned both a reply would be greatly appreciated):
1. TF600T or Surface RT? TF600T seems to have a lot more features in my opinion and a much sturdier keyboard and build.
2. Is it even worth getting a RT? Or should I be looking straight ahead to 8.1 tablets now?
I'll be using this tablet mainly for school, but if I can run windows apps and what not that would be awesome too.
What are your thoughts?
Thanks!
Edit: I forgot to mention i'll most likely be buying locally but BNIB. I'm looking at ~260 for dock+tablet for vivo and ~320 for surface and keyboard.
It really depends what you want from the tablet/TF.
Windows RT isn't flourishing with apps right now so an actual full Windows Tab, Android or an iPad may be a better option.
That being said, I like my surface.
It's a really nice tablet that works well.
Office 2013 beats any other office app on any other device.
260 whats? US Dollars, british pounds, euros, human rights violations?
Honestly, I would just look towards the T100. Full windows 8.1 at that price cant be argued with.
Owned Both and...
Returned the ASUS T100. Good concept by ASUS but poor execution and very poor quality build. I exchanged it for a Surface 2 with touch keyboard.
There really are light years difference in the MS build quality over the ASUS and from personal experience with other ASUS devices their tech service/support sucks.
The screen on the Surface is 1080P versus 720P for ASUS and I was very concerned with the ASUS charging port - it's very flimsy and I was worried that over time it would break (I saw from a internal picture that it's just soldered to the motherboard like many other cheap tablets)- compare that to the very sturdy magnetic connector on the Surface.
Surface 2 with Office 2013 is most of what I need. Certainly there will be apps missing but if you really analyze what you need vs. what is "nice to have" RT isn't so crippled at all.
And by its very nature its mostly malware and virus free.
Also, I think that some of the experts in this forum will ultimately develop a way to sideload third-party apps just like they did for RT 8.0 - just a matter of time.
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260 whats? US Dollars, british pounds, euros, human rights violations?
Honestly, I would just look towards the T100. Full windows 8.1 at that price cant be argued with.
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Canadian Dollars, apologies for not mentioning that.
Personally I wouldn't have minded getting the surface if I didn't miss out on that $199 deal back in December. Big loss on my part lol.
I've opened up a TF300T before to replace my LCD and while not impossible, was quite difficult because I did not have a heat gun. I also remember the charging port being soldered onto the motherboard so I understand what you mean.
I might take my chances with the Vivo, there's someone whose willing to sell me one brand new with a new keyboard for $200 (CDN). Do you think at that price point I should get the vivo or should I still purchase for the surface? If I do get the surface, it will ultimately be Surface RT not 2...because it's nowhere to be found and I need one asap. The surface will likely be about $100 more not including the keyboard.
Like you i'm always concerned about build quality, I don't want it to break and have it feel like I wasted a big chunk of money on soon-to-be garbage. So, if you tell me that the Vivo Tab to you felt this way, I probably won't get it! I'll trust an XDA member's opinion over a youtube video any day haha.
Thanks again!
I'd always prefer the Vivo Tab TF600T, it has a much better and brighter screen, has a real keyboard like a notebook and in generell feels really great. It's the perfect device on the go. Also i don't like the stand of the Surface so much. While it's great on a table, it's not so great in the train, on your lap etc. In terms of performance both devices aren't the fastes but for my expectations they are fast enough.
In terms of apps it really depends, but my experience with RT is much better than with Windows 8. All Windows RT devices get firmware updates (a.k.a. drivers) with windows update. With Windows 8 tablets, you have manually download & install them. Also some apps (like Uno Friends) don't work on certain Windows 8 devices like (Samsung Ativ Tab 5 / Thinkpad Tablet 2) but work great on the Vivo Tab RT / Surface. On the top of it you don't have to worry about viruses.

NO new Note 8 +

Well it looks for sure that we will not get a new Note 8 model.
For those of us who love it, it is a big disappointment but I've read many places it didn't sell that well.
Somehow I don't believe that as 8 inch is the sweet spot in tablets and the stylus beats all the competition.
Has anyone gone to the Note 10 2014 or the Note 12.2?
What great advantage do they have?
They certainly don't have the portability and handiness of the Note 8.
I'd hate to see this line die, especially when Samsung is pumping out models like lab rats.
Shofar1 said:
Well it looks for sure that we will not get a new Note 8 model.
For those of us who love it, it is a big disappointment but I've read many places it didn't sell that well.
Somehow I don't believe that as 8 inch is the sweet spot in tablets and the stylus beats all the competition.
Has anyone gone to the Note 10 2014 or the Note 12.2?
What great advantage do they have?
They certainly don't have the portability and handiness of the Note 8.
I'd hate to see this line die, especially when Samsung is pumping out models like lab rats.
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The 10.1 I used to have and went back to the note 8. Mostly for portability. I am TEMPTED to try the 8.4 pro with this stylys Apex Fine Point
It works REALLY well with the Nexus 7. Only draw back is no holder on the 8.4
lp894 said:
The 10.1 I used to have and went back to the note 8. Mostly for portability. I am TEMPTED to try the 8.4 pro with this stylys Apex Fine Point
It works REALLY well with the Nexus 7. Only draw back is no holder on the 8.4
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But does it do OCR?
With the Note 8, all the programs - sorry apps, that I use the Note converts my writing to text and does a pretty good job at it.
That's really important to me.
I don't think the Note 10 has enough going for it for me to give up the portability.
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But does it do OCR?
With the Note 8, all the programs - sorry apps, that I use the Note converts my writing to text and does a pretty good job at it.
That's really important to me.
I don't think the Note 10 has enough going for it for me to give up the portability.
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The 10.1 does have OCR and the handwriting recognition is much better. The S-Pen also feels much better with writing with it. It there was a note 8(or 8.4) with the same breed of Android that is on the 10.1 I would throw the note 8 in the trash lol
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The 10.1 does have OCR and the handwriting recognition is much better. The S-Pen also feels much better with writing with it. It there was a note 8(or 8.4) with the same breed of Android that is on the 10.1 I would throw the note 8 in the trash lol
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I would certainly go for a Note 8.4 but I would never through my faithful Note 8 in the trash.
It would be a great gift for someone.
Maybe I am missing the point... the 10.1 2013 edition is lacking power. As for the 2014 edition it is quite the tablet, but if I were to get anything larger than 9 inches, I would go for a 12" tablet that ran a full OS, not Android. No, I am not an Android hater, just when you play with phablets, you get android, mostly because of the lack of storage space. With a true tablet, storage space should not be an issue for a full fledged OS.
Because I see the Note 8.0 tablet as an in between of sorts, my expectations are minimal. Given that the stock firmware works pretty darn good, having an S-pen, hand writing capabilities, and Samsung search functions that are lightning fast over Google's. The only issue I see is Androids inability to automatically sync time from the internet. Though there are apps for that. If there are any complaints about the Note 8.0 not meeting expectations, then the end user should have found what he or she wanted in the first place.
I waited a year for something like the Note 8.0, and knew once I had it something else would have something that the Note 8.0 did not have. I purchased mine knowing its limitations, as they did not matter.
Since Samsung has released the Tab pro 8.0 does it make me want one... No. Nor will any other tablet that has an 8 inch screen, well until this tablet becomes faulty, then there will be time for replacing.
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I would certainly go for a Note 8.4 but I would never through my faithful Note 8 in the trash.
It would be a great gift for someone.
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I agree. I've been using the N5100 as my phone and tablet, and even though I think I'm going to purchase a new phone, I've gotta keep this as a tablet. Using S-Note for taking notes in meetings has totally spoiled me.
Shame that sammy hasn't re-upped with a 2014 version, but I'll be keeping my Note 8 for reading epubs and taking notes.
I'm as much a "new tech whore" as anyone on XDA (11 tabs over the past 12-14 months) and have come to the conclusion that there never will be a "OneSize Fits All" tab. Having had tabs from 7 to 10.1 inches, for overall usefulness, the GNote8 works best for me. Sure, it ain't perfect. Nothing is. And yes, I was tempted to score the GNote 8 Pro but the lack of SPen/digitizer was a deal breaker. For me at least. The GNote8 does all I require when I require. If I need a Windows tab the Dell 8 Pro serves me well.
We may well be seeing the winding down of significant upgrades in the tablet form factor. Minor tweaks and cosmetic adjustments might be what's in store. Do I need the "latest and greatest"? Nah. Find what works for you and just enjoy!
Shofar1 said:
But does it do OCR?
With the Note 8, all the programs - sorry apps, that I use the Note converts my writing to text and does a pretty good job at it.
That's really important to me.
I don't think the Note 10 has enough going for it for me to give up the portability.
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Just out of curiousity, what app do you think works best for OCR?
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Just out of curiousity, what app do you think works best for OCR?
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I use K9 mail, gmail, google Look and Docs to Go
They all work fine.
Samsung's Amazon entry for the Note 8 now has a '2013 Model' in the name. This makes me wonder if there will be a 2014 version later this year or early next year.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...sim_cps_8?ie=UTF8&refRID=0A9XB5X4X7AAAWHHVTRA
Shofar1 said:
Well it looks for sure that we will not get a new Note 8 model.
For those of us who love it, it is a big disappointment but I've read many places it didn't sell that well.
Somehow I don't believe that as 8 inch is the sweet spot in tablets and the stylus beats all the competition.
Has anyone gone to the Note 10 2014 or the Note 12.2?
What great advantage do they have?
They certainly don't have the portability and handiness of the Note 8.
I'd hate to see this line die, especially when Samsung is pumping out models like lab rats.
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The fact that it didn't sell well is obvious. It was released as a niche device for people who have use for a stylus, and cost $400 initially. It was never intended to sell well, nor was it intended to compete with other tabs on the market. If anybody bought it without a realistic need for a stylus, they did not do their homework and bought the wrong device.
Advantages of the newer tabs include CPU, screen, and battery. But you sacrifice portability. I have no use for a 10" tab personally, as it would not fit into my white coat.
But most importantly, what makes you say that there isn't going to be a new version? Just because it's not out yet doesn't mean much, unless Samsung actually says that it's being cancelled.

[Q] Should i buy note 2014?

Hello everyone
I am searching for a new tablet to buy and am really intrested in note series (sPen!). I have few questions for galaxy note 2014 owners:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
gintariukeas said:
Hello everyone
I am searching for a new tablet to buy and am really intrested in note series (sPen!). I have few questions for galaxy note 2014 owners:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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I also came from an iPad mini (the original one), so I'm right on the same page. The resolution on that device wasn't so hot.
1) I think it's perfect for reading. It really depends where you're reading, though. If you're worried about the size, just get a textbook or something of similar size, and judge it for yourself. For me, it works great for reading.
2) I haven't timed the battery myself. For the size, I feel like it has pretty decent battery life. I use it to take notes during classes, and in a 3 hour class, with the screen on the entire time, I see about a 100 to 70 percent drop. I'm happy with that.
3) The sPen is a LIFE SAVER! I use it all the time for taking notes. I use the Stylus Beta keyboard (on the Playstore) and it works exceptionally. With stylus beta and evernote, it's the perfect setup for me. Much faster than messing around with the onscreen keyboard.
4) It depends how much it is now. I haven't really looked recently. It has been out for awhile now, so I wouldn't pay full price now like I did when I bought it. Shop around, for sure. I've been really happy with my tablet though. It's a HUGE upgrade from the iPad mini in every way, shape, and form.
I've had them all ipad mini, air, note 8, note pro 12.2 and note 2014 10.1. The note 10.1 is perfect and I tell you why..
Ipad mini to restricted by Apple and I hate iTunes.
Ipad air, same reasons as mini.
Note 8, perfect portability, but s pen sucked because you had to write 45 degree angle or higher, plus s pen not good on small screen.
Note pro, loved it but portability sucked, to heavy, and not with $650.
10.1 perfect size and functions.
If you're smart buy a used one off ebay or Craig'slist. You can find them for $350
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gintariukeas said:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
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1. Very comfortable for me, I mainly use it for reading.
2. Without energy saving, I only charge it once every 3 days with my usage, but you can google for non-stop results. I think it's 11 hours for browsing and 4-5 hours for movies. Not sure.
3. I don't use it for anything.
4. If you buy on Amazon or Ebay, it's worth the money, but don't go to local shops if you live in EU, they have too high prices.
gintariukeas said:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
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It's thin and light enough, with a screen that's big enough. you were on an iPad, so you understand tablet reading -it is what it is... Never quite the same as the real thing, but an acceptable compromise.
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2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
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This really depends on what you've got running. If you let it idle, it will survive until day four. If you play some games watch some movies, browse some sites, it's possible to drain the battery in 5 hours. Generally speaking, on moderate to heavy use, you can get by on a charge per day.
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3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
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Somewhere between a gimmick and a handy tool. There are some apps that will let you take some advantage of the S-Pen's functionality, and Samsung has a few, especially if you're thinking of it as an alternate interface/input method (in which case it's superb). But if you're thinking this will replace your paper and pen; meh, I wouldn't throw away my notebooks and pencils just yet. The truth is the current technology (Wacom, N-Trig, etc.) will always lag behind your hand writing, and there will always be a glitch here and there (no matter how beastly the hardware you're using is). There will be people who swear by it. They are lying; most likely to themselves. This can be a tolerable compromise, but it will never match a [hardware] keyboard or a pen and paper -and it's not exactly the perfect amalgamation either. In a pinch it will certainly do, and for annotating PDFs and whatnot, it's tough to beat -but a real book and a real pen is just orders of magnitude superior. Where this compromise takes lead is in the fact that one book weighs several of these, while one of these can be multitudes of books, the internet, a gaming console, and so much more (which by now you understand -based on your iPad Mini experience).
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4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
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Honestly? I really want to say yes, but the answer is no. Two reasons: 1 It's a Samsung. Samsung is shoddy workmanship backed by worse customer support. 2 At this price you're starting to encroach on surface pro price range, and the Fujitsu Stylistic Q584. Yes, these machines do cost a little more -but they also do everything you expect from a computer. And if you're thinking of the pen -OneNote is king among all. A [non-Windows] tablet is a consumption device with some communication and minimal productivity capabilities. At the price Samsung is asking, it's not worth it.
gintariukeas said:
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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So for question five [Do you recommend/would you do again]
I have a love-hate relation with android (especially Samsung). It promises so much, and the kicker is that it often does deliver... just not quite the way you'd expect. It's a little like "Bedazzled " where the devil grants your wish, but in a way that nearly renders it moot. I dislike iOS because of its limited functionality, general interface (lack of buttons and setting menus on apps themselves) -and quite frankly the active digitizer is a great tool. But iOS is consistent, robust and reliable. So, I will be forfeiting my Note 10.1 2014 in to an iPad Air [but I'll be forfeiting my iPhone 5s for a note 3 (or 4)].
If ever I do get another Android tablet -it will never cost this much again, because they're not worth it. I regret getting my note 10.1. You got to take that with a grain of salt, given my personal experience which is unlikely [yet possible] to be yours.
How do I reconcile paying nearly as much for a note phone? they're nearly everything the tablet ought to be in a much more wield-able form factor with an actual [good] usable camera. Who is going to tote around their tablet all day every day? Who is going to pull that behemoth out to snap a quick shot? Not I. But the Phablet? For me, it's just the right size to take everywhere every time; and it's smaller than most real cameras (or close enough).
How would I reconcile paying nearly as much for an iPad. Apple's customer service is a little more robust than Samsung. And limited though these devices are -they do what they are designed to do -far more reliably and consistently than most of the android devices I have owned. And like it or not, an Apple product is an Apple product. You take that out, and people around you know what's the deal. But when you unleash your Samsung Note 10.1 2014 people look at it, and know it's a tablet that wishes it could bear the prestige of an Apple product. True nerds will think "wow cool!" Everyone else will think "cheap knock-off wanna-be iPad". Who cares? You shouldn't. But I now realize, I do (a little), because for that price I prefer the prestigious ice-breaker, than trying to justify the awesomeness of my [now defunct, probably still working had it been an iPad] device. Last but not least, I was an early adopter of the Windows 8 tablets and I have a Sony Vaio 11 [regrettably -now that Q584 and Surface Pro 3 are viable options]; and thus it's going to have to be a while before I get another Windows tablet. (I'm inclined to wait until at least Windows 9+).
Maybe this is a little (or a lot) more than you asked for. But I wish someone would have warned me.
Lastly, on the note 8. Unless it's less than 1/3 the cost of the note 10.1 2014 -it's a bad move. Note 8 has all the shortcomings of the 10.1 plus the fact that it's inferior hardware (not least of which is the screen quality), thus amplifying all the pangs. Not to mention you just got done complaining about the iPad mini for being too small.
TLDR;
No. Don't get it. I'm sure there are tons of people who will tell you that it's a good get. I'm sure they have favorable experiences -and there is a lot to love there. But in the end it's not worth the price because it's Samsung and it's Android. At that price point you might as well spend a few bucks more and get Windows (but not RT!) especially if you're serious about it as a study tool: OneNote crushes everything that does and does not exists in the multi-universe. Otherwise pay less and get something else.
gintariukeas said:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
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i think it's a great size and light to hold, fine for reading texts, pdfs, books (Kobo), websites. i was surprised to find it was smaller than my TF700 (piece of crap!) -- Sammy did a great job with the side bezels.
gintariukeas said:
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
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depends on how much you use it. it's not my only tool for work/leisure, but i would charge between every one and two days. (also, for me it takes about 5hrs charge to go from 20% to 100%.)
gintariukeas said:
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
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very useful for me (print designer): making notes at meetings (sNote out of the box), marking up text and layouts and pdfs and images. doing revisions this way is much more efficient that printing out (or waiting for) a colour proof, marking that up, and then couriering it to a client — especially if i'm working remotely or in transit somewhere. i can't go entirely paperless of course, but for everything up to final colour proofs, it's works great.
scrapbook is also really handy when tripping through websites or videos. the one thing i've no use for is the windows function though. that said, the sPen really changed my perspective on what a tablet can/should do: i won't buy another tablet with out sPen or similar capability.
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4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
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if you need sPen, want a 2K screen, and you like Android, this is THE ONLY tablet to get. i waited until KK came out and a bunch of the earlier bugs (software and hardware build) were addressed though. with Sammy, i find it's good to wait for a few months after launch for them to get things right. also, now being able to get Samsung's Remote PC functionality is great.
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Hello everyone
I am searching for a new tablet to buy and am really intrested in note series (sPen!). I have few questions for galaxy note 2014 owners:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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Biggest issue. It's a Samsung! Plastic piece of ****. Build quality from hell. Have to return mine for creaky body and the bezel start to come loose from the glas. 750€ tablet with quality worse than a 129€ tablet.
The screen is nice, very bright and res is nice for reading, s pen is good for drawing and if u like to take notes but the apps that support stylus is quite few and samsungs s note and action memo is quite crappy. Besides the screen and the stylus which is nice if u need it. But its mostly a gimmick, i just cant recommend this POS. Did i mention that it lags like hell on stock firmware. Had to root and run custom to get decent performance and it still runs worse than my s4 with cm. I regret every day that I wasted over 700€ on this crap. Check around and you will see i ain't the only one who is dissatisfied with it. Buy something else than Samsung. Dont lesrn that lesson the hard way
If pen is not your critical.
Standby and wait for new Tab S series it will come with AMOLED display !!! .
I had an iPad Mini1, it was cute but that's it. The screen is not great and the battery wasn't as good as people say it is.
I also had an iPad3 and the screen was nice but it was uncomfortable to hold and I think the aluminium casing is slippery without a case.
iOS just sucks even though there are really good quality apps.
I've had a ton of android 10" tablets from Xoom, Tosh Thrive, Asus Transformers TF101, TF201, TF300, TF700 and Padfone Infinity.
I still have the TF700 and the Padfone Inifnity. The TF700 runs like a POS, slow and stutters and freezes up. I have a feeling the 1gb RAM is crippling it. I don't understand it when the prime and Tf300 was no where as bad, but I like the form factor very much and use it like a laptop and for remote desktops access it is great.
The padfone infinity is pretty awesome and it runs very fast, quadrant score is about 3 times that of the TF700 and feels like it. If it had an active stylus and a keyboad dock, I'd be happy with that as my only device since it is also a phone. My only problem with it is no SD slot so I got the 64gb version. I'm keen on the Padfone Infinity 2 but haven't tried it yet.
I also have a Surface RT and it is great for MS Office and File Explorer with a desktop. As well as that, I have an Asus Vivotab smart ME400C which is atom based Windows8 tab and runs full windows desktop apps.
Before I got my Note10 (P605) I had a Note 8 5100 (wifi+3G) and it is a GREAT tablet. It is snappy and light and runs soooo good. The only thing is the screen is not even as good as an ipad mini but it ****s on every other tablet I have owned for usability. IT IS THAT GOOD! if Samsung made a Note Pro 8.4 like their tab pro 8.4, I'd be there in a snap.
This brings me to my Note 10.1 2014 (P605 with 4G). The screen is awesome, the size is awesome, the speed is great (not as snappy as Note 8 in a lot of ways believe it or not!). I'm still on 4.3 but then my Note 8 is on 4.2. The pen is better on the Note10 than the Note8 and if you only got the Note10 to run Sketchbook ONLY, it would be worth every cent on that sweet screen. I do a lot of reading on it and the screen is just awesome. I photo edit and preview on it and its great. I also use it to annotate PDFs and draw stupid things for fun.
I'm still grabbing the Note8 most of the time when I head out of the house, simply because I can jam it into my coat pocket and cargo pants pockets. but at home, I'm on the Note10 all the time.
I love the Note10 and if I had to live with just 1 tablet and my Note 3 phone, I would pick the Note10 without hesitation.
PS. With regards to the negative comments, don't try to find the perfect tablet, it doesn't exist! Everything has a compromise but this Note10 hits a VERY NICE sweetspot and I would recommend it for student use if running windows apps is not a neccessity. Even then, I would try and get away with that by remote desktop because the Note 10 does everything else soooo much better.
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manhattan212;53168349: ...OneNote crushes everything that does and does not exists in the multi-universe. Otherwise pay less and get something else.[/QUOTE said:
Papyrus pen UI beats One Note windows for actual Notetaking. However One Note has better management, so the solution is to use Papyrus to take notes and then move it to One Note for storage and management thru Android OneNote.
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I love the Note10 and if I had to live with just 1 tablet and my Note 3 phone, I would pick the Note10 without hesitation.
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I'm sure Samsung must be proud to have such staunch supporters. But the key point isn't just how great the machine is. The keypoints are this, this, and this. And for every one of us that actually posts -imagine the countless others that don't go online to post questions in forums. The countless others who just take the loss in stride, because they have little or no recourse.
In short, the Note 10.1 2014 has great promise, but buying Samsung is like playing Russian roulette. The hardware has great probability of failing, and Samsung has no problem screwing customers over. So I for one feel it's wrong to not warn people against the Note 10.1 2014. Because chances are, the tablet isn't going to fail you in those first 30 days, when you can take it back to the store you bought it and get yoru money back -no questions asked. It's going to fail you 32 days in. And then you're relying on Samsung's warranty -which isn't just going to let you walk into a local Samsung shop and shove your defective tablet into one of their [non-geniuses] mouths and let you walk out of the shop with a new replacement in hand. Other companies do that, Samsung just gives you the runaround, and cheats you out of your money.
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PS. With regards to the negative comments, don't try to find the perfect tablet, it doesn't exist! Everything has a compromise but this Note10 hits a VERY NICE sweetspot and I would recommend it for student use if running windows apps is not a neccessity. Even then, I would try and get away with that by remote desktop because the Note 10 does everything else soooo much better.
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When it comes to buying the Note 10.1 (2014)...
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I know what you're thinking. 'Did the SM-P605 fire six shots or only five'? Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, i kind of lost track myself. But being that this is a Samsung, the most powerful tablet in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do ya, punk?
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I've heard a lot about the good and bad points about the note 10.1 (2014) here but there is only one thing that puts me off getting one: the constant talk is lag and sluggish performance. I currently have a nexus 10 and I am wondering how the real world performance on this compares to the note 10.1? If anyone has any experience of both I would be really interested to hear their thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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I've heard a lot about the good and bad points about the note 10.1 (2014) here but there is only one thing that puts me off getting one: the constant talk is lag and sluggish performance. I currently have a nexus 10 and I am wondering how the real world performance on this compares to the note 10.1? If anyone has any experience of both I would be really interested to hear their thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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There's no or very little lag on 4.4. I use my N10.1-14 probably heavier than most here because I'm a productivity user. I was just thinking to myself today what an amazing device it is (after owning it since October). I was working on a complicated Word document. I like to get the meat of a document done in Hancom locally and then finish it via RDP on my Windows desktop PC to guarantee the formatting's correct. Here's what I had open at the same time - Hancom (viewer and editor), Jump Desktop keeping a connection alive to my home PC with Word running, and two instances of Samsung's My Files in multi view to drag-and-drop files I needed between my device, home FTP server and Dropbox. On top of that I was watching Amazon Instant Video in a Pop-up-play window using PlayOn, connected to a BT keyboard and mouse, and listening to the audio via an AptX BT pendent. Also, so I didn't need to pull my phone out for calls or messages, I was using SideSync to display it on my N10.1-14 minimized. I have a 3G device so all this was being done over AT&T's HSPA+ network because the coffee house I was in had too many people on Wi-Fi. And that was all with little or no lag. Try that on another 10.1" tablet.
But as amazing as all that is to me, if you're purely a consumption user, you won't appreciate all the N10.1-14's features, the resources they take up, and Samsung's added UI clutter to get them all to work together. For consumption, stick to your N10, get an iPad, or consider the Teg4 Asus TF701 which is down to $299 new and has the same screen resolution as both the N10 and N10.1-14. The people *****ing about the N10.1-14 probably shouldn't have bought it in the first place based on what they use a tablet for.
Happy shopping.
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But as amazing as all that is to me, if you're purely a consumption user, you won't appreciate all the N10.1-14's features, the resources they take up, and Samsung's added UI clutter to get them all to work together. For consumption, stick to your N10, get an iPad, or consider the Teg4 Asus TF701 which is down to $299 new and has the same screen resolution as both the N10 and N10.1-14. The people *****ing about the N10.1-14 probably shouldn't have bought it in the first place based on what they use a tablet for.
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Thanks for your reply. I have a note 3 and love s-note for taking notes at work. The problem is that the screen is too small to use it on a regular basis - I find myself frequently going back to pen and paper. So i'm thinking of ditching the note 3 and getting a 10.1. Good excuse for a new phone too
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if any one looking for a good new open samsung note 10.1 2014 i got one for you for $449 if you would like two take a look in two it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111380065860?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
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I've heard a lot about the good and bad points about the note 10.1 (2014) here but there is only one thing that puts me off getting one: the constant talk is lag and sluggish performance. I currently have a nexus 10 and I am wondering how the real world performance on this compares to the note 10.1? If anyone has any experience of both I would be really interested to hear their thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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I have over a dozen Android devices and there is always some lag, somewhere in each of them.
As long as its not significant, you shouldn't get hung up about the lag.
The thing you want out of android is functionality and there isn't a better 10" weapon right now than the Note 10 2014.
In terms of raw potential, the Nexus 10 Mali 604 GPU will top out at 72gflops.
Note 10.1 2014 Exynos: 102gflops
Note 10.1 2014 Qualcomm SD800:130gflops
Ipad Air A7: 115gflops
Asus TF701 (Tegra4): 97gflops
You have 4 million pixels to push around. Gflops matter.
I'm not sure what your main use is, but if you are a student and you are in a major that requires a lot of math, BUY THIS TABLET. If you will not be using the stylus often, there may be better options. There is a noticeable amount of lag on the stock rom and stock firmware, which confused me because the specs seem great. After rooting the device and switching roms it is much smoother.
I literally bought this tablet to run LectureNotes for my math classes. I have had a big issue with lag specifically in that app (only that app - others had zero lag), but I finally got it down to probably <30ms response time in LectureNotes while writing. I had to find the OEM 4.4.2 firmware/rom and flash it prior to flashing a modded 4.4.2 rom. A bunch of tweaking was also necessary in the app's settings, but I actually found that the high resolution was my issue. I then lowered the resolution of my notebooks, turned fast rendering and page rendering OFF, used SetCPU to max out the CPU when the screen was on and LectureNotes was in the foreground. This significantly decreased my lag in LectureNotes. All of this only applies to that specific app. Nothing else had any lag once I was rooted and on a custom rom.
Would I recommend this tablet? It depends. If you are strictly going to use it out of the box, and keep it stock, my answer is no. I would get something with a lighter ROM out of the box. Possibly something AOSP. If you are a student and/or you plan on using the stylus often, it is worth every damn penny. My tablet replaced my math notebooks. Using LectureNotes to do math is SO much faster than pencil and paper, because of the custom tools that you are able to use. Constructing certain figures and graphs are so much quicker on the tablet than having to draw everything out.
warboat said:
I have over a dozen Android devices and there is always some lag, somewhere in each of them.
As long as its not significant, you shouldn't get hung up about the lag.
The thing you want out of android is functionality and there isn't a better 10" weapon right now than the Note 10 2014.
In terms of raw potential, the Nexus 10 Mali 604 GPU will top out at 72gflops.
Note 10.1 2014 Exynos: 102gflops
Note 10.1 2014 Qualcomm SD800:130gflops
Ipad Air A7: 115gflops
Asus TF701 (Tegra4): 97gflops
You have 4 million pixels to push around. Gflops matter.
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Have you had a Nexus 10 and is it's overall performance comparable to the Note 10.1? I get a little paranoid about these benchmarks - I had a TF700T before my Nexus 10, which I recall benchmarked well. Even after unlocking, rooting and flashing custom firmware it was a completely unusable POS because of the lag.
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Would I recommend this tablet? It depends. If you are strictly going to use it out of the box, and keep it stock, my answer is no. I would get something with a lighter ROM out of the box. Possibly something AOSP. If you are a student and/or you plan on using the stylus often, it is worth every damn penny. My tablet replaced my math notebooks. Using LectureNotes to do math is SO much faster than pencil and paper, because of the custom tools that you are able to use. Constructing certain figures and graphs are so much quicker on the tablet than having to draw everything out.
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I agree, my Note 3 flies now I have ditched stock. However, the only thing that worries me about this is the knox 0x1 issue. Has anyone reported getting warranty service with this flag on their Note 10.1 ? It is not an issue with my Note 3 because T-mobile couldn't care less...
Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=321428263654&alt=web
Price is a big issue but you can get it factory refurbished for $299. For that price this device looks a lot better imo
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Even after unlocking, rooting and flashing custom firmware it was a completely unusable POS because of the lag.
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That wasn't the SoC or even s/w. Asus is notorious for putting slow-as-crap bargain basement NAND in their devices.
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Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=321428263654&alt=web
Price is a big issue but you can get it factory refurbished for $299. For that price this device looks a lot better imo
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I was about to tell OP for this link. haha.
I bought one for 299-39 bucks ebay cash so total came out to be 260 which is fantastic deal. Still waiting for it to be shipped.
I am original Note 10.1 owner so I can't comment on this 2014 ones but with my original 10.1 being my main notebook in college, I can't recommend enough. Everybody experience may varies depending on the usage and expectation. I took all of my notes using the tablet with the LectureNote app. Fantastic tool.
I expect nothing less from 2014 10.1 and can't wait to get it.

[Q] Should I keep my Note 10.1 2014 or move on?

I have been a Samsung fan for a long time. I had the original Note 10.1 and loved it. I have had my 2014 model since it came out, so about 15 months now. I use it for business all day long and keep all of my client notes on it. I use it to consume media and the occasional game. I do not think I am rough on it but like I said I use it about 12 hours a day.
My issue is that it seems to be riddled with problems all of the sudden. Almost like it was not built to last. I did not think at the time to buy an extended warranty because I have never had an issue with Samsung quality. Now that I am 2 months out of warranty I have the dreaded black screen of death issue, which I have fixed several times by opening the device and disconnecting the cables. Now when it happens I do not have to open it up , I just press on the back a few times and it fixes it. The S-pen detached message is now a problem due to the s pen not making contact with the sensor which causes the screen to kick on making my battery drain because I do not see the screen on while in the case.
So my question is
1. Since I use it so heavily should I expect to replace it more often? Should I buy a new one and pony up for the square trade (or better) extended warranty?
2. Should I upgrade to the 12.2? Does it fix some of the problems that seem to be inherent to the 2014?
3. Do I bail all together and go with w Surface Pro 3? ( Really don't want to do this because I have the Note 3 phone and sync my notes between it and the note 2014. The note 3 phone may be the best phone I have ever had.
Thoughts?
It does sound like you've used your note pretty heavily and the problems sound like physical wear & tear. You definitely need a device that stands up to your use patterns. Spen will always be a point of wear with prolonged use, so other notes will prob see similar life spans in that regard. I have had note ii over 2 yrs and haven't used the spen the amount you say you have (I only used the spen for a prolonged, 6 month period- every day for class notes) on the note tablets, so I haven't ever experienced these problems. Other questions you have I cant answer.
Edit: so I guess all I can answer is; you will now probably have to expect getting a new device more often since you use them heavily. Although, I really would have thought these tab/phablets to last longer
Im in a similar situation as you. My screen is not working anymore. It has like a 10% chance of turning on. Im going to send it in and see if they repair it. If I have to pay I will open it up and have a look myself.
I have had 4 samsung tablets. The note 10.1 is the first tablet that has broken on me like that.
I also own a 12.2. I think it has a better build quality. It doesnt have the bubbles under the screen. I think they fixed some engineering errors that the 10.1 has.
I would consider selling the 10.1 and getting the 12.2 in your place. Im considering getting a second 12.2 as well.
Personally I dont see a benefit in a microsoft surface opposed to the note 12.2. Windows is not a touchscreen OS and its not fun to use. I only use my tablet for taking handwritten notes and the Samsung note series is the best at that specific task.
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Personally I dont see a benefit in a microsoft surface opposed to the note 12.2. Windows is not a touchscreen OS and its not fun to use. I only use my tablet for taking handwritten notes and the Samsung note series is the best at that specific task.
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I recently sold my Note 10.1 2014 for a Surface Pro 3 and will never look back. Nothing beats having a full desktop OS in this form factor. I am a student and use to use my Note for handwritten notes extensively. I always found the experience super frustrating. Firstly, a TON of websites that my school required me to use wouldn't work on a mobile browser. I tried everything. Different browsers, sideload flash, etc. Yes, the note was more of a productivity tablet than any other android tablet, but a lot of the productivity features felt extremely half baked.
Onenote. Full stop. /thread.
Once you have used Onenote on the SP3 there is nothing that compares on the android side of things. I used LectureNotes all the time for in class note, and it is AWESOME software with an AWESOME dev, but it just isn't capable of the same things that you can do with OneNote.
I have to disagree with you about windows not being a touch friendly OS. No, it isn't made specifically for touch, but it works to be sure. Until you use Windows for a couple of days on a touch device, can't really say it's terrible.
Anyway... I don't want to sit here and laud the Surface Pro 3 all day and detract from the overall topic sounding like a major fan boy, but in the week that I've owned it, I feel it has EASILY replaced my Note and even exceeded my expectations. This too is coming from a super huge android fan that thought android could do what any other OS could do by a long shot. I was super resistent to joining another ecosystem as I've used android exclusively since 2009, but I'm glad I did. OP, the ultimate decision is yours. Try a SP3 for 14 days and return if you dislike. I will say for me, it was time to move on from Samsung's Note line. With their locked down software and terrible update history...
Done.... I swear.
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rap6388 said:
3. Do I bail all together and go with w Surface Pro 3? ( Really don't want to do this because I have the Note 3 phone and sync my notes between it and the note 2014. The note 3 phone may be the best phone I have ever had.
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Forgot to add, I think you can get Onenote for android now with support for handwritten notes. It would sync automatically with your SP3 if you purchase one.
Maybe moving for the NEXUS 9... What you guys think?
thnx
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What makes OneNote better than similar apps on an android tablet? I watched some video reviews on the Surface3 and most reviewers say that OneNote has lots of features but what are those features?
I for example have a laptop and 2 android tablets. I really miss some kind of instant sync feature of notes between the devices. Open documents as tabs and a way to split the screen like in adobe PDF pro would be cool too.
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@supremekizzle
What makes OneNote better than similar apps on an android tablet? I watched some video reviews on the Surface3 and most reviewers say that OneNote has lots of features but what are those features?
I for example have a laptop and 2 android tablets. I really miss some kind of instant sync feature of notes between the devices. Open documents as tabs and a way to split the screen like in adobe PDF pro would be cool too.
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There are tons of features in onenote. I have only scratched the surface in exploring. This feature sounds super sick https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Take-linked-notes-19a63ea7-0559-46c6-bf1f-b6455e3e66c1
Basically when your in a note taking session, any webpage that you open and anything that you research is automatically tied into the notes.
The recording also works better than Lecturenotes. One of the biggest frustrations that was alleviated for me when switching to onenote was the importing of pdfs. I get huge PDF powerpoints from my professors and it always took a good 5 minutes to be imported into lecturenotes. With onenote it's almost instant.
Just overall the whole experience of note taking and school work is just better on a full blown PC. I know there are a lot of work arounds for android to make certain things work, but with SP3 I just don't feel that limitation at all. It makes for a liberating experience. Like wearing a latex suit all of your life and then joining a nudist colony
It sounds like you have similar usage as me and knock on wood I haven't had any issues besides the battery not lasting as long as it use to. I personally love the S Pen and nobody else has that function so switching platforms wouldn't be ideal for me.
If my tablet were to break I would look at the 12.1 or pick up a refurbished 10.1. with an extended warranty.
If you can get it fixed, I would keep it. I'm in a somewhat similar situation, but my Note isn't broken. I've used this thing for over a year and loved it. A couple of weeks ago I bought a surface pro 3 and ever since then I haven't touched the Note.
If you can't keep it, I would suggest moving onto a Windows tablet/hybrid if you value productivity. Many people will probably disagree with this, but it depends on what you want to use it for. Yes the Surface is much more expensive than the Note, but there are alternative Windows hybrids that are cheaper. If productivity is your main use, then I believe that Windows is way more superior, and aside from the Android games, it has all the media capabilities and more.
I noticed that there was some mention of writing on PDFs. In my experience, I haven't found very many apps that are smooth and good for taking notes on the Note. Windows has a few apps that can do this much better (Xodo Docs which is free and Drawboard which is 9.99). They offer a much smoother experience imo.
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If you can get it fixed, I would keep it. I'm in a somewhat similar situation, but my Note isn't broken. I've used this thing for over a year and loved it. A couple of weeks ago I bought a surface pro 3 and ever since then I haven't touched the Note.
If you can't keep it, I would suggest moving onto a Windows tablet/hybrid if you value productivity. Many people will probably disagree with this, but it depends on what you want to use it for. Yes the Surface is much more expensive than the Note, but there are alternative Windows hybrids that are cheaper. If productivity is your main use, then I believe that Windows is way more superior, and aside from the Android games, it has all the media capabilities and more.
I noticed that there was some mention of writing on PDFs. In my experience, I haven't found very many apps that are smooth and good for taking notes on the Note. Windows has a few apps that can do this much better (Xodo Docs which is free and Drawboard which is 9.99). They offer a much smoother experience imo.
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Totally agree with this. As far as productivity is concerned SP3>Note. Once Console OS is released...this thing will be a wet dream come true for me.
on day 5
I made the switch to the surface pro 3. Too soon to tell (sending this on my 10.1). Out of the gate was an issue with defective keyboard connection so had to return. Went to Microsoft store (did not buy from them) and customer service was incredible. Replaced tablet without question and went much further to make things right. I will give full review in few days after i get more acclimated
I'm on a note pro 12.2 and the surface pro 3 has me thinking about switching. OneNote on Android is horrible, but on a PC it's about the best program on the planet. I had no interest in the SP3, until I did three hours on lecture notes on OneNote for Android and went to paste a picture I thought was in the clipboard and instead a 5 page Word document was pasted over all my notes. Stupid Android version has no undo function. :facepalm:
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The thing is all those other comparable tablets are alot less mobile. More weight, more size, less battery.
I think the note 10.1-2014 is still the best device in its category. I'd love something better but for my needs there isn't. Maybe the first win10 tablet from MS will be the thing. Because samsung is just getting worse and worse..
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I'm on a note pro 12.2 and the surface pro 3 has me thinking about switching. OneNote on Android is horrible, but on a PC it's about the best program on the planet. I had no interest in the SP3, until I did three hours on lecture notes on OneNote for Android and went to paste a picture I thought was in the clipboard and instead a 5 page Word document was pasted over all my notes. Stupid Android version has no undo function. :facepalm:
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One note is probably the only thing tempting me to a windows tablet
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One note is probably the only thing tempting me to a windows tablet
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It's the only thing they have left to tempt me as well. Here's hoping that they do something with the Android client.
new tablets are coming
FWIW, on your next tab (whatever that is) think about getting an extended warranty from SquareTrade. I used to be pretty skeptical about extended warranties because of bad experiences, until I tried SquareTrade. Very good service, and the prices are reasonable. Now I buy on most big electronics purchases and have never been disappointed with the investment.

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