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Which is best?

Now that we have the dvp, hd7 and omnia 7 which 1 would you say is best and why but your reason can not include the screen give different reasons why.

richard1978 said:
Now that we have the dvp, hd7 and omnia 7 which 1 would you say is best and why but your reason can not include the screen give different reasons why.
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I would say Omnia 7. I wouldn't use the DVP keyboard very much and it's HUGE. HD7 has horrible battery life. I'm personaly choosing between trophy and Omnia 7 :]
Omnia has better battery life than HD7, better screen. HD7 is too big for me and it's screen is only lcd... Shame...

Niiceg said:
I would say Omnia 7. I wouldn't use the DVP keyboard very much and it's HUGE. HD7 has horrible battery life. I'm personaly choosing between trophy and Omnia 7 :]
Omnia has better battery life than HD7, better screen. HD7 is too big for me and it's screen is only lcd... Shame...
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Throw away your considerations of the Trophy and consider the Mozart If you think that the extra .1 inches in the Trophy's screen give it the advantage, you'll be sacrificing all of the following that the Mozart rules for:
-Build quality
-Camera
-Flash
-Overall sexiness

The Dell Venue Pro is kind of heavy, and the HD7 apparently has a weak battery. Being from the US, I haven't played around with the Omnia 7 and I don't like the Focus because of the cheap plastic employed. I actually want the LG Optimus 7 to come to the US. I like the look of it.

canadariot2312 said:
The Dell Venue Pro is kind of heavy, and the HD7 apparently has a weak battery. Being from the US, I haven't played around with the Omnia 7 and I don't like the Focus because of the cheap plastic employed. I actually want the LG Optimus 7 to come to the US. I like the look of it.
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I got it and recommend it. Well built, nice design, good battery. Need to fiddle a bit to get a good picture in difficult light but generally I was really surprised how well it performs. Contrary to all LG fears and some negative reports the device is really good.

For me personally, the Omnia 7 is the clear winner. Not only due to the screen (which, let's face it, is a pretty big deal) but also because of the better camera, longer battery life and actual value add apps included compared with HTC's HD7.
The DVP was never really of much interest to me anyway as I don't need the physical keyboard (and if I did, it would be in landscape mode rather than portrait) but after finding out it only has 256MB of RAM I truly believe Dell has made a mistake with this handset. Perhaps not now, but once WP7 does multitasking I fear the amount of memory will play a large part.
Just to throw it out there, the LG Optimus is also a really good device though. Great value add apps and they throw in a bunch of free apps from the marketplace every so often. Camera is, I would say, better than the HTC's (any model) and it doesn't (just like the Samsung) utilize SD cards for storage - something which is proven to be faster.

emigrating said:
For me personally, the Omnia 7 is the clear winner. Not only due to the screen (which, let's face it, is a pretty big deal) but also because of the better camera, longer battery life and actual value add apps included compared with HTC's HD7.
The DVP was never really of much interest to me anyway as I don't need the physical keyboard (and if I did, it would be in landscape mode rather than portrait) but after finding out it only has 256MB of RAM I truly believe Dell has made a mistake with this handset. Perhaps not now, but once WP7 does multitasking I fear the amount of memory will play a large part.
Just to throw it out there, the LG Optimus is also a really good device though. Great value add apps and they throw in a bunch of free apps from the marketplace every so often. Camera is, I would say, better than the HTC's (any model) and it doesn't (just like the Samsung) utilize SD cards for storage - something which is proven to be faster.
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Yes those LG apps are great too.

emigrating said:
For me personally, the Omnia 7 is the clear winner. Not only due to the screen (which, let's face it, is a pretty big deal) but also because of the better camera, longer battery life and actual value add apps included compared with HTC's HD7.
The DVP was never really of much interest to me anyway as I don't need the physical keyboard (and if I did, it would be in landscape mode rather than portrait) but after finding out it only has 256MB of RAM I truly believe Dell has made a mistake with this handset. Perhaps not now, but once WP7 does multitasking I fear the amount of memory will play a large part.
Just to throw it out there, the LG Optimus is also a really good device though. Great value add apps and they throw in a bunch of free apps from the marketplace every so often. Camera is, I would say, better than the HTC's (any model) and it doesn't (just like the Samsung) utilize SD cards for storage - something which is proven to be faster.
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you are the first person I've heard praise the samsung wp7 apps? what are they?
I know the hd7 has a flashlight app that actually uses the flash, the htc hub which gives you weather, stocks, (basically all the htc sense stuff), an audio equalizer app (didn't samsung just issue an ota update to change the diagnosis number so people will leave the sound level alone), the best youtube app out there (allows higher quality video over data connection), as well the attentive phone, notes...
Not flaming, just curious because I hadn't heard of any stellar samsung oem apps.

doministry said:
Yes those LG apps are great too.
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I want that video out app that the lg phones have...

but the omnia 7 has only got 8gb now is that enough

Which country are you in?
We in germany got a bit lucky. Aside from the trophy each WP7 is available with 16GB. 8GB can be very little if you're a multimedia person.
The LG apps are very good especially the voice to text app. It's amazingly accurate in german and english.

im in the uk and we only get the 8gb version

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but the omnia 7 has only got 8gb now is that enough
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maybe, maybe not depends on your needs. I have the 16gb hd7, and a 8gb phone would require some changes on my part (less podcasts synced, less videos on the phone at one time).
I don't think I would even consider a dvp until they can fix the wifi issue. Too many freezeups (the one big advantage wp7 has over winmo).

Best windows 7 mobile phone

Hi I am a big android fan but fancy a change sick of slow updates took me 6 month to get 2.2 fancy a Samsung omnia 7 but not sure what the best windows 7 mob is in the UK
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your picks i believe are (and their advantages)...
omnia 7 = 4.0" SAMOLED screen
mozart = 8mp camera
trophy = nothing special, just an all rounder
HD7 = 4.3" (largest screen)
LG Optimus 7 = a lot of good LG apps (such as Google Goggles) and LG continually offers paid apps for free
LG Optimus 7Q = same as Optimus 7, but with a keyboard
note: don't take anything i say as gospel as i'm from australia, but this is what i get as general view from it all. as you can see i have a trophy, and i personally haven't been disappointed all that much even though i know it's the weakest windows phone about. of course there will be some disappointment in certain places, but overall i'm happy with a phone that is reasonably stable, smooth, and does all my day to day stuff and a bit more. things like bluetooth file transfer, though not in the phone, i rarely ever used anyways, so i don't mind it not being there, but others do.

LG Optimus 7 E900 is a great surprise to me.
Great device. And has gorilla glass on the screen

There is no such "Best" phone
What is best for me may not be for you
Said that my personal best would be the TP7 GSM

As the guy above said... but for me it's the Omnia 7.
It's got a good, solid build quality, a 4" SAMOLED screen that isn't too big or too small... not to mention amazingly clear and colourful, the camera is very good for 5Mpx and the camera button is a two-phase one (focus>capture).
My favourite little touch is the sliding cover for the USB port to keep dust out - little things like that do it for me

For Europe I would say the Omnia 7, because I think it's sexy and love SAMOLED. Iactually wish it was available in the U.S. instead of the Focus.
You may have a different opinion on the looks and screen tech though.

Again, it's personal opinion, but I love the Trophy. Perfect balance of features, great form factor and I think the screen looks miles better than SAMOLED. But again, it's up to you. Go to a store and have a play around

Personally, i went for the omnia 7 - the screen is just amazing!

I own Omnia 7, the screen is superb. Also, i think overall design is best among other wp7 phones.
But, i do hate search button, i wish it would be more hardware like.

Samsung Omnia 7!

Think after advice and research the omnia it is then thanks guys
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Omnia 7 here too and I love it.
I cannot comment on the other models as this is the only WP7 handset I have used.
The Omnia's screen is fantastic, great colours. Build quality seems very good, I really like the metal casing. One advantage not listed is getting HD voice calls when in a 3G area. The difference in call quality was staggering when speaking to my sister on her Omnia 7.

FromOuterSpace said:
I own Omnia 7, the screen is superb. Also, i think overall design is best among other wp7 phones.
But, i do hate search button, i wish it would be more hardware like.
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The search button will become more useful as app makers start realizing it's there and overloading the functionality to be a searches in their respective applications.

I chose HTC 7 Mozart over Omnia 7.
Screen on Omnia is awesome, but it was too big for me being new to modern smartphones. And I quite do not like the edges/corners on Omnia, they arent smooth enough for my taste, so the phone looks even bigger

HD 7 is hands down my favorite. The huge screen makes all the difference if you ask me; The battery isn't as bad as people say either.
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Wow I wont contribute to much to this thread, But IMO I think the DVP is the best device all around but ive only had experience with this phone. I played with the HD7 before I bought a WP7 and loved it. But i really wanted to try out the AMOLED screen in which the DVP offers. Screen has been awesome. Not sure what your looking in a phone. A lot of people have complained about the DVP camera I dont take many pics so thats not a deal breaker for me. But if you were looking at a DVP Dell has really sucked as far as customer service. Seems like nobody knows much about anything. But at least at pre launch. Nobody knew when it would be available and so much other stuff. You can do a search and find out what you MIGHT have to deal with when purchasing the DVP through Dell.
But overall the DVP is a very solid phone and build quality is A+. I told myself I wouldnt purchase another HTC device because of all of the issues ive had and what others have had, but that me until they clean up their act and give us a device which is groundbreaking overall. They seem to give us very minimum when new devices come out. LG has never been a fan of mines so it was never a choose for me. I would try a Samsung device but the only drawback was their build quality, nothing ive played with have felt solid, only drawback. I would have got the Asus device but it wasnt ready for launch but will give it a look when released. But thats my opinion, now you take everyones info and make a choice.
Last note: the Omnia 7 is a nice device but not available in the US, its cousin the Focus I didnt really like because of ATT. I wont go back to them so thats my drawback from them and its curved edges. Omnia 7 just looks better

I personally prefer the DVP just for the gorilla glass (I actually stabbed it with a ball point sad, kind of scared when I did it, but it held up) and curved screen (makes typing stuff a whole lot easier). I prefer AMOLED over Super AMOLED just because of over saturation on Super AMOLED. But...
The LG Optimus 7 is a beautifully designed phone and I wouldn't mind getting that phone for a variety of reasons.
I would go to a store and try out the phones yourself. You get more choices being in the UK so plus for you.

LG Optimus looks great, photos show nothing, it also has a great back.
And hardware buttons are great. Camera is good too.

The Best Windows Phone 7 is the one that you don't know about that is comming out the month after you get one...

I just tested both HD7 and Omnia 7. There is a big difference in screen and building material, while software is the same totally. I would prefer that HTC used the same materials as in HD2.
Omnia 7 is the winer.

WP7 which phone should I buy today?

I'm thinking of HTC Mozart for its best (?) camera. But in "also like the LG Optimus 7th
Any suggestions?
Note: I live in Sweden and we only Have 4 devices to choose from, Htc Mozart, Trophy, LG Optimus 7 & the Samsung Omnia 7.
Thanks!

Im in the US and have had an HTC surround (similar to the other HTC devices) and am currently using a Samsung Focus (just like the Omnia 7 in a different shell), and I would say to go with the Omnia 7 just for the screen. Its amazing and the colors of the tiles really pop. I especially love how the black makes it blend into the bezel so you can see where the screen ends and the bezel begins

Peer2peer said:
I'm thinking of HTC Mozart for its best (?) camera. But in "also like the LG Optimus 7th
Any suggestions?
Note: I live in Sweden and we only Have 4 devices to choose from, Htc Mozart, Trophy, LG Optimus 7 & the Samsung Omnia 7.
Thanks!
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As someone who owns all the U.S. released devices I sincerely advise against HTC WP7 devices. They're typically slower than the others and have the worst battery life. That said it depends on what you're more concerned with. The Optimus 7 has amazing battery life and the Omnia 7 has a great screen. Whichever of those two is more important to you jump on that device.

Due to the onboard storage, the Omnia 7 is pretty much the fastest WP7 device out there at loading and resuming applications.
Very responsive touch screen as well.
The downsides? It's not upgradable, so you're stuck with the 8Gb storage space. Also, you get colour banding on fine gradients when you look at web pages and photos.
Personally, I love the device and wouldn't swap it for anything else. I can live with the smaller storage space.

TheAperture said:
Due to the onboard storage, the Omnia 7 is pretty much the fastest WP7 device out there at loading and resuming applications.
Very responsive touch screen as well.
The downsides? It's not upgradable, so you're stuck with the 8Gb storage space. Also, you get colour banding on fine gradients when you look at web pages and photos.
Personally, I love the device and wouldn't swap it for anything else. I can live with the smaller storage space.
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I have to agree. The Omnia 7 is by far the best device in Europe with WP7. I had the HD7, the Mozart and LG E900. At least i got stuck with the Omnia 7 with 16 GB of Memory. Its well produced and looks way better than the ugly LG device. In terms of speed LG and Omnia 7 are equal. In case of OEM Apps LG outperforms HTC and Samsung by far.
Best way is to test the Devices yourself in store.

Thanks everyone, i liked the Htc Mozart but as you guys say, the battery life sucks and i've heard the display aint that good either.
LG Optimus 7 is kinda nice but i dont know.
The Omnia 7 is just so freaking ugly!! Don't you guys agree?
Don't know what to choose, great display or great battery?

Peer2peer said:
Thanks everyone, i liked the Htc Mozart but as you guys say, the battery life sucks and i've heard the display aint that good either.
LG Optimus 7 is kinda nice but i dont know.
The Omnia 7 is just so freaking ugly!! Don't you guys agree?
Don't know what to choose, great display or great battery?
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The back of the Omnia7 is ugly but the front looks really good compared to the LG. And thats what you look at all the time

Peer2peer said:
Thanks everyone, i liked the Htc Mozart but as you guys say, the battery life sucks and i've heard the display aint that good either.
LG Optimus 7 is kinda nice but i dont know.
The Omnia 7 is just so freaking ugly!! Don't you guys agree?
Don't know what to choose, great display or great battery?
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The omnia 7 isn't that attractive but it holds together well. You dont have to worry about a 2 foot drop shattering your phones existence as you do with the mozart. The display on it is amazing especially in dark themes since the SAMOLED screens dont light up the black pixels at all and the battery life is nothing to complain about, just not as good as the optimus 7

I would go with the Omnia 7.

Excepting that I want more Memory - highly recommend my Omnia 7 - in balance the memory trade off is worth it (if you can find a 16 GB version I'd pay the extra if buying again).
Sent from my Omnia with only 8GB using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

Omnia7:
it's the most beautiful WP7 device available, has the best screen and the best camera (Mozart may have more MP but the photos aren't good).

I use a program that's called Spotify, streaming music for 7$/month, it's coming to WP7 soon so i won't really need 16 GB storage.
I guess ill have to think about the Omnia 7 then.. haha
Thanks everyone!

z33dev33l said:
As someone who owns all the U.S. released devices I sincerely advise against HTC WP7 devices. They're typically slower than the others and have the worst battery life. That said it depends on what you're more concerned with. The Optimus 7 has amazing battery life and the Omnia 7 has a great screen. Whichever of those two is more important to you jump on that device.
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just your opinion...check the WP Benchmark thread. My HD7 outperforms pretty much every other phone on there I the CPU section and even beat your beloved DVP in CPU and Memory ;-) NoDo has really given the slower MicroSD phones a shot in the arm it seems...

omnia 7
wp7 is better designed for samoled (lots of black in the U.I) on othe lcd screens it does,nt looks tht good btw i own a samsung focus n my cousin hav a lg quantum n my phone looks far more better then my cousin,s lg ... (sorry for my bad english)

Omnia 7 for sure. If I were you I'd purchase it from Germany though as you can currently pick it up for around 2500,- rather than the 4000,- or even 5000,- they cost in Sweden. Not to mention you get 16GB instead of the standard 8GB.

Holy **** guys!
Omnia 7 looks like a piece of wood with a screen!
Take my advice.. Trophy 7 have the perfect screen size, it's beautiful and have a nice grip. Try it (;

emigrating said:
Omnia 7 for sure. If I were you I'd purchase it from Germany though as you can currently pick it up for around 2500,- rather than the 4000,- or even 5000,- they cost in Sweden. Not to mention you get 16GB instead of the standard 8GB.
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Hmm, how does it works with insurance if i buy a phone from an other country?
And also, from where do i buy it?!
Thanks.
EDIT: sorry i mean warrenty - Not insurance

mikeeam said:
Holy **** guys!
Omnia 7 looks like a piece of wood with a screen!
Take my advice.. Trophy 7 have the perfect screen size, it's beautiful and have a nice grip. Try it (;
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I agree, the samsung omnia/ focus/ galaxy s line have all looked kinda cheap to me. Nice screen, but other than that, looks quite tacky.
From what I heard on the podcasts, the trophy has the bast camera of the wp7 line, so if that is what is important to you, get it.

nrfitchett4 said:
I agree, the samsung omnia/ focus/ galaxy s line have all looked kinda cheap to me. Nice screen, but other than that, looks quite tacky.
From what I heard on the podcasts, the trophy has the bast camera of the wp7 line, so if that is what is important to you, get it.
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What? i've heard that the trophy got the worst

Peer2peer said:
Hmm, how does it works with insurance if i buy a phone from an other country?
And also, from where do i buy it?!
Thanks.
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Do a search on preis.de. I know some people have purchased from ES-Mobilefunk, but can't vouch for them myself. I've used mp3player.de which price matched the cheapest alternative on the list.
If you by insurance mean warranty I'm not sure - I do believe Samsung Sweden will honor a European wide warranty though, but check to make sure. If indeed you mean insurance, just insure it like you would any other handset.
nrfitchett4 said:
I agree, the samsung omnia/ focus/ galaxy s line have all looked kinda cheap to me. Nice screen, but other than that, looks quite tacky.
From what I heard on the podcasts, the trophy has the bast camera of the wp7 line, so if that is what is important to you, get it.
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You seriously cannot put the Omnia7 and the Focus in the same category. One is all plasticy and feels cheap while the other is all metal and feels real sturdy.
As for the Trophy having the better camera, well, it may be the best HTC has to offer, but that really doesn't say much considering how bad the HD7 is or how the Mozart doesn't really give better pictures with it's 8MP camera.

Don't know what you've got, til it's gone.

Okay, so it's not gone but the half hour I was forced to spend with android was miserable. Today, despite my better suggestions, my cousin bought a GN. He's not much of a techie, so he asked me to flash android revolution onto his device. Okay, rom-flashing, I used to be an addict. I took his phone, tinkered around, and physically cringed at the sight of the lag. I struggled past my initial disgust, I mean I had to attempt to improve the mess he got himself into. So, I get on the comp, download the files, and realize just how tedious all of this is. I do everything, get it flashed, hand it back to him. I don't care to see it, I feel violated enough having done that. I had to preserve the sanctity of my smartphone integrity. He takes it back and is in awe, so, he shows me how much faster it is. I suppose that I'm spoiled by quality, but it seemed slow even then. Hardly any smoother. I mean, I honestly think the first Gen trophy would have been better, he said the rep told them they haven't carried a windows phone in 3 years. Verizon really needs some better options, I hastily rushed back to the warm confines of my functional OS with suggestions to just utilize buyers remorse and pick up a focus S, a noteworthy upgrade. After using my WP7 before he was sold, but ATT sucks in his region.

I have the same experience from a slightly different angle. I am a big wp7 fan and currently tote an HTC titan which I love. I also had an ipad, my sister had a Motorola XOOM, she is a big fan of apple stuff so suggested we swap tablets, I agreed and am now the proud(?) Owner of a XOOM, and the thing drives me nuts, it lags, the browsing experience is laggy and horrible, the keyboard lags in the browser the interface is messy, I loathe the bloody thing but my sister will not swap back. People keep telling me I should flash the latest nightly eos ics version on my XOOM, but I run my own 24/7 business and don't have enough hours in the day to spend mucking about with something that should not deliver this sort of experience out of the box. On the upside, it supports flash so it is good for the bbc player, for everything else, I use my titan.

I find the OP a bit too convenient, I've used a GN and it was a great experience. I have no idea why you would want to flash that phone!
Now if this was the Verizon GN then it's no secret that this is Verizon's doing, you can read about it on any tech website. So in that case the mistake would be investing in anything other than the unlock GN, nothing to do with the actual "real" device or ICS.
Sent from my Samsung Omnia 7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

@adesonic I suggest you swap back the tablets in her sleep. WP is great but as far as tablets go, there's the iPad and the rest. I'm not even sure ICS on the Xoom would make it that much better.
Sent from my Samsung Omnia 7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

Honestly, i know exactly how refreshing it is to use a WP7 device coming from months of nerd raging, flashing and all sort of sufferings. Now i'm a 24/7 WP7 user and i feel fine with this, BUT: don't you ever phisically cringe whenever you have to plug your phone to a pc just in order to sideload an app? Ok, you shouldn't need that often, but what about multitasking? Don't you ever phisically cringe when you, for example, are using both the XDA App (painful to use on WP7 to say the least) and the browser, and when switching between the two you have to stare for a few seconds at a black loading screen before the XDA App reloads, generally wiping the text you just typed? What about having to pay in order to have a decent YouTube app on your phone? What about having to pay in order to have a decent gps navigation experience (unless you're on a Nokia device)? Both worlds are painful at some extent. Right now for my kind of usage it's way less painful to use a WP7 device, but you cannot expect that every single user will feel the same: we all have different needs.
On a side note, guess what kind of users are generally browsing XDA right now? I'll better take cover before another troll war starts rocking the topic...

Android's for customizing and hacking... out of the box, it's colorful bull****. If I would have to use TouchWiz or that LG-UI everyday, it would drive me insane!
I have a Samsung Omnia 7 (Stock ofc, but with some hacks e.g. tethering) , Samsung Galaxy SII (MIUI) and an Asus Eee Pad Transformer (revolver ROM). The device I use regularly is, as you might be able to guess, the Omnia 7.
The Transformer is only used as an E-Reader and for Movies (but it does that quite good!), the Galaxy SII is for flashing around and customizing. Not even music or anything on it, call me crazy
And my Windows Phone, well thats to actually get the work done.

Again the GN is pure android out of the box (unless it's from Verizon) and it works great. Since that's the phone mentioned in the OP I have to defend it. I would still rather buy a Lumia 900 or Focus S if they were sold in Europe but I can recognise ICS as a great OS.
Sent from my Samsung Omnia 7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

z33dev33l said:
Okay, so it's not gone but the half hour I was forced to spend with android was miserable. Today, despite my better suggestions, my cousin bought a GN. He's not much of a techie, so he asked me to flash android revolution onto his device. Okay, rom-flashing, I used to be an addict. I took his phone, tinkered around, and physically cringed at the sight of the lag. I struggled past my initial disgust, I mean I had to attempt to improve the mess he got himself into. So, I get on the comp, download the files, and realize just how tedious all of this is. I do everything, get it flashed, hand it back to him. I don't care to see it, I feel violated enough having done that. I had to preserve the sanctity of my smartphone integrity. He takes it back and is in awe, so, he shows me how much faster it is. I suppose that I'm spoiled by quality, but it seemed slow even then. Hardly any smoother. I mean, I honestly think the first Gen trophy would have been better, he said the rep told them they haven't carried a windows phone in 3 years. Verizon really needs some better options, I hastily rushed back to the warm confines of my functional OS with suggestions to just utilize buyers remorse and pick up a focus S, a noteworthy upgrade. After using my WP7 before he was sold, but ATT sucks in his region.
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What is a "GN" ? Did he also sign a contract for a piece of hardware, or can he use whatever he finds on craigslist with his carrier ?
Apparently there are wp devices being sold, I see one or two a week on my local craigslist.

How convenient, Zee can't answer his lies in the Q&A forum, so he comes here for confirmations.
Smh, i tested my Nexus S against a Focus S, and my Nexus S running stock ICS not modded in anyway was smoother at everything. Shocking! ICS is really astonishing.
Also the 720p display on the GN is forcing the GPU to work 2.4x harder.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

I've seen a lot of reviews of gn and haven't seen any lag. Are you sure it was the Samsung galaxy nexus ?
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karan1203 said:
I've seen a lot of reviews of gn and haven't seen any lag. Are you sure it was the Samsung galaxy nexus ?
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http://www.bgr.com/2012/01/16/galaxy-nexus-users-plagued-by-random-reboots/
This was posted 6 minutes before your post.

A lot of people don't mention the GN's lag because they're comparing it to other android phones. 3 or 4 years in and google still can't create a gpu accelerated UI? Tragic.

vetvito said:
How convenient, Zee can't answer his lies in the Q&A forum, so he comes here for confirmations.
Smh, i tested my Nexus S against a Focus S, and my Nexus S running stock ICS not modded in anyway was smoother at everything. Shocking! ICS is really astonishing.
Also the 720p display on the GN is forcing the GPU to work 2.4x harder.
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Focus S against Nexus S? kidding me?
Do a Nexus S vs Titan.

drupad2drupad said:
Focus S against Nexus S? kidding me?
Do a Nexus S vs Titan.
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He also mentioned android's new hardware accelerated UI in the other thread -_-... At the rate they're going, that'll be coming around when they're running through the alphabet for names a second time.

The Galaxy Nexus is amazing. Its smooth and the UI is incredible. I absolutely love the face that it has soft.buttons, and they made multitasking amazing in it.
But I cannot use a phone that big, ever. Its truly huge. Also the camera leaves something to be desired.
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drupad2drupad said:
Focus S against Nexus S? kidding me?
Do a Nexus S vs Titan.
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Does that really matter? I don't think that the additional 100 MHz packed by the Titan would matter that much. Anyway, be it smooth or not in the UI, it's quite sure the Nexus S won't be as consistent as a WP7 device (regardless the hardware) in terms of smoothness throughout all the OS and especially when using third party apps.

Answer Android UI is hardware accelerates. Why does Z need to tell Android shards to validate his choice of Windows Phone?
Polly gonna go in carrier stores play more tomorrow abduction thwarting Windows probes are thwarting only ones I'm sure I won't touch because if you have a first gen device there's almost no reason ti buy a new one anyways.
Played with all the AT&T new Windows phones. They didn't incite or when interest me.
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The OP is talking about lags and having to root to make it better, your post is about the size and camera....troll much?
EDIT: he changed his post right quick!

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Answer Android UI is hardware accelerates. Why does Z need to tell Android shards to validate his choice of Windows Phone?
Polly gonna go in carrier stores play more tomorrow abduction thwarting Windows probes are thwarting only ones I'm sure I won't touch because if you have a first gen device there's almost no reason ti buy a new one anyways.
Played with all the AT&T new Windows phones. They didn't incite or when interest me.
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Even most android fanboys aren't lying about the addition of hardware acceleration.
While I'm happy with my Lumia 800 and focus flash (titan broke, damn HTC and their crappy build quality) perhaps you should wait for the lumia 900. I wish I could've gotten some hands on time with that marvel of cellular technology at CES.

It is hardware accellerated. Stop living in 2010.
The UI latency you keep bringing up is invisible to most consumers and really, I didn't notice it when I spent over an hour in every carrier store Saturday morning/afternoon and played with the Galaxy Nexus. The UI is amazing, and it's smooth as hell. It also has 32GB internal storage and treats it the same as WP7 and iOS (everything on the same storage, no more small App partitions). It's an amazing device. I just think it's too damn big. Updates come way faster to the Galaxy Nexus than to any Windows Phone. With Android having a good UI now, I'm actually considering getting that device (I had sort of sworn off of it after the Vibrant, which is why I got the HD7). Android 4.0 has Native MTP support as well, which negates the need for USB MS as the device can sync natively to Windows Media Player (Music, Podcasts, Pictures, Video) - something not even WP7 can do (needs a redundant app for that). That has always been a negative for Android, but it's gone now...
The Lumia 900 will have the same crappy hardware as basically every other Mango device, it will just be huge, use a now "getting kind of old/overused" design, and have LTE - which isn't even available to most people here (so waste battery life for a capability that isn't possible to use, thanks but no thanks). It will even still have a WVGA resolution in a qHD and (becoming) 720p world, which looked terrible as all hell on the Titan screen when I played with it (made the Focus Flash screen look like a Retina Display by comparison).
The main issue is the OS, the device builds are not top notch but that's a different beast. The OS has grown boring to me, and I will be forced to carry 3 devices if I continue to use WP7. That's become unacceptable to me. I'm going to another platform so I can either use one device (if iPhone, I can ditch my iTouch and Android phone) or two (if Android, then I can carry my Android device and my tiny iPod Touch) instead of the situation I'm in now. I'm leaning towards iPhone, because of iMessage, FaceTime, and the fact that 80% of the people I know use iPhones now.
And yes, HTC is notorious for their crappy build quality. The only value they bought to Android was Sense, back when the Android UI was TRULY terrible. Other than that, their devices aren't anything to write home about.
The only area of pause with the Galaxy Nexus is the Camera and lack of a Camera Shutter button.
T-Mobile 3G here is giving me edge speeds with a full 3G signal, so I need to switch carriers next month when I switch phones, as well. I'm tired of their terrible network. Went home for a week last week and couldn't even make a call 90% of the time, or send a text. Had almost no reception. They should have let AT&T buy them.

Disappointed by the LG Nexus 5X specs and price ... is the LG G4 still worth buying?

As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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This decision is really up to what features you find value in. I love my G4 and you would have to decide if you want a phone that has removable battery and expandable storage to say have fingerprint scanner and the latest OS. These phones are different in a lot of ways.
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I picked up the G4 the day it came out,so I've had a good few months with it. Definitely no regrets. Coming from Samsung, it's a much less intrusive version of Android..... Than say... Touchwizz. It could benefit from extra features for battery saving mode like on the Sony or SAMSUNG, but it easily lasts me a day.
One of the best cameras, used it on my recent trip Italy, if you are into photography... You can have a lot of fun.
With every phone you will find +/-, but sure you can probably get a good deal on aG4, making it a real phone to consider.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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I can answer one of those questions: the overlay is acceptable, because 99.5% of the time I don't see it because I use the camera/browser/gallery/app of choice, instead of playing with the settings. That might be different in your case, but since you asked I thought I'd answer.

Hell! I'd recommend the G4 over their 6P! For that European price, I'd 100% recommend the G4 over it!!! No doubt about it! You can get the G4 for 420 euros! The 6P will be 650 and I still think the G4 will compare just as well Or even better in the camera department and battery life. Nexus' aren't known for battery life. Neither is the LG, but hey! ...

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs.
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what about the P variant ?
was a bit disappointed with the 5X specs too. with only 2gb, what reason is there to upgrade from the nexus 5 ?
Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Not for you, for a lot of non-purists, yes.
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
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exactly. will not mix with 'Hello Kitty'
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
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there is the sense mod if you are rooted. but this available for any android.
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no where as fast as you would get on nexus. they come in time though.

I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
I find LG interface to be much more bearable than Samsung which to me personally is unusable. This is helped by the fact of on-screen buttons. But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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eksasol said:
I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
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Then you are not a typical nexus user. You are interested in nexus only because updates are regular and this keeps the value of your device up.
You really prefer to have the extra 'features' every non nexus device offers.
So is this the same as the OP or not.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
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some would say they have exceeded apple in terms of build and quality with their offerings this year.
But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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if you don't need the camera...

Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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86 in photo and 79 in video for both but one has 84 points and G4 83 points, anyways DxoMark just sucks, a french reviewer... never in low light

I'm disappointed in the 5x because of the faux look of dual front speakers when in reality one is just an earpiece speaker, nothing more and lack of qi charging, and same outdated storage options. Really don't care about the lack of RAM, not like I can tell a difference going from the G4 to nexus 5, though all of it is hard to justify at $380 when you pay $20 more and get 3gb of ram, a 5.7 inch 2k screen, and an SD slot by choosing a moto x pure edition. 5x specs would be fine with nexus 4 pricing tiers
To answer your question if you're a purist like me, LG UX will drive you bonkers. So much stuff they changed just to be different that doesn't really have a purpose. I like it overall OK but have already decided I'm going back to a nexus or a moto next year. Also the memory leak is in full effect on it as LG has written 5.1.1 off as "too minor to even bother with" which means it won't get fixed until you get marshmallow which probably won't be until 2016
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Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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That was quick but the most interesting scores are the N6P is top for texture in stills beating the S6 & G4 and beating both again for Noise by 4 points.
I think the comparisons of N6P against S6/G4 are going to be interesting, hard as it might be to believe, expect the N6P shots to look slightly better in details than the S6/G4. How to counter that ? reduce to 12MP on both, now noise & details will look sharper and the difference will be hard to tell. Still, this is an achievement for the N6P. The 6S+ did not get there. The Z5 did.
In terms of video stabilisation its a good ten points behind the G4 so jerky video.
12MP and 1/2.3" rear camera.
The big catch is that there is no OIS in either N5X or N6P, pretty shocking considering N5 & N6 had it. Go to the trouble to make a good camera and then leave out OIS. Seriously WTH!!!! So like the Z5 except the Z5 will have more features ootb. You better have good handholds a la xperia or M9 to get clear low light shots with these nexii.
What will the camera interface be like, google camera has always been very limited. 3rd party cams will be essential. And then we will find out just how slow the shutter gets to.
They left out wireless charging on both ! ok, i get it that morotola is crap at wireless charging but LG already nailed it with the 5, two years ago.
Course for those who want sd & removable battery, software is not going to be able to fix

I've just returned my LG G4 to get the Nexus 5x.
I loved the G4's camera but the bloatware, bluetooth issues, buggy smart unlock, constant notifications of "NFC may drain battery" when using my car dock, the big when you put it on charge, the bing when it finishes charging, the bing when you turn it on, the bing when you turn it off.... it stopped being an enjoyable device to use and it was all because of what LG had done to Android.
So I'm going back to stock android. Originally I was going to wait for a G4 AOSP or Cyanogen rom but with the announcement of the fantastic Nexus 5x camera I decided to make the move while I still could..
The feature list is cut down compared to the G4 but it is stuff I am not so concerned with. I've not used expandable storage since moving to use Google music, Photo, Docs, Keep and Drive. I've never used wireless charging, and I don't game on my phones so I am not worried about the 1gb less of ram, especially when my Nexus 4 uses nearly 1GB of ram less than the LG G4 when idling.

I got the G4 after trying almost all other phones out there. I had Z3, HTC One M9, S6, Nexus 6, Iphone 6, and now G4 and the G4 blows them all away.
It is quicker than the others, has no memory or multitasking issues contrary to some minor views in this thread, the bluetooth, 4g and wifi work perfectly, smart lock works fine too, the camera beats all of the other phones I owned, and the battery life is equal to if not better than all at 5 Hours SOT at 60% screen brightness.
The new google launcher is AWFUL so wanting that is just nonesense, and the LG launcher has replaced Nova for me, because it's just as customisable.
Nexus fans won't want it though because they want Stock = Boring, and prefer the boring look to a decent camera and features. Anyone expecting the new Nexus devices to actually have decent real world camera is praying to the wrong gods.

I have no memory leak issues with my Verizon model, and love 95% of this phone.
Coming from a Nexus/Moto X background, I find LG's ui decent and mostly easy to use. There are 2 or 3 little annoyances in how settings are accessed, but Nova Launcher fixes most design issues - an icon pack and new screen layout, plus gestures to shortcut to the settings I use most.
I world consider rooting to clean up the other small issues, but I'm a regular Android Pay user do I'm holding off until that all shakes out.
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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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Im a huge nexus fan ive owned all of them from the first HTC to the last motorola. I bought the g4 blindly to test the non nexus waters and this phone has blown me away especially after the updates and the camera is super amazing and no nexus can or will beat it. Dont get me wrong ill probably grab the new nexus 5 based on stock so i can have fun rooting and putting custom roms on it, but besides having cutting edge software it will be my secondary phone and ill stick with my g4 for everyday use. To be honest im a crack flasher and it feels good to not have that urge with my g4, i got root and thats all i needed to get rid of some things and add xposed to tweak it a bit. Very happy with my g4 and will likely get the g5 when it drops.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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Hello, I bought the G4 for about a month and it has no problem till now. Everything is OK. The body design is a little bend and quite comfortable playing with the phone. But the price is a little bit expensive for me. I was impulsive to buy it. Fortunately it performs well overall.

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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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no, because G4 and 5X share same hardware.

theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Yes. In terms of hardware, it's about even up. And the G4 also offers a miniSD slot, exchangeable battery, and nice back covers. Only possible drawback might be the battery live, probably mostly thanks to the G4's insane resolution.
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I don't like the LG icons, but that can be easily changed by using a different launcher like Nova. Also, the colors for toast messages and quick settings are a bit bright (cyan). And the mobile data protocol (LTE, G3, ...) is displayed as own icon instead of small text in the reception bar icon. Most of the rest can easily be ignored or even be disabled in the settings.
But a lot of this (and more) can be modified even without unlocking the bootloader. You can flash rooted ROMs via the cable firmware update screen, and then use FlashFire to flash other ZIP updates like Xposed or themed variants (warning: very slow...).
With the European H815 version, you can also unlock the bootloader, but you'll lose warranty, and it can't be unlocked. But it'll allow you to flash "more AOSP" ROMs. (Official CM12 is work in progress, but there's an inofficial port available.)
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Android M at least has been announced for the G4. I guess it's hard to tell even by LG's developers, as it depends on the changes made by Google.
But then, the changes made since Android 4.1 aren't that impressive anyway IMHO, and several recent updates had some teething troubles, so maybe it's not so bad to wait a bit longer...