HTC MONDRIAN (wp7 device) pics / discussion - Windows Phone 7 General

new image from pocketnow:
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Picture in WP7 Mondrian rom (showing blackstone with wp7 buttons)
a bit suspicious is that the accompanying specs that the tipster sent pocketnow differ from what we have seen references to.
Specifically:
Size: 116.7 x 58.7 x 11.9 mm
Display: 3.7" WVGA AMOLED capacitive touch screen
Camera: 8MP with auto focus with camera flash with High definition 720p video capture Internal memory: 16 GB flash, 512 MB RAM
Chipset: Qualcomm QSD8672, 1.5GHz
we're seeing references to a 4.3" display and a Qualcomm QSD8650A/B 1.3GHz CPU in the reg files of the rom.
Brandon Miniman (pocketnow.com)
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here are some of my own (fake) artworks:

The second is just the old Touch HD with the buttons changed.
(you can actually remove that pic)
The first is the real deal.

My belief is that these are fake.
Reasons are two-fold:
1. The black spacing is too big. HTC would not release a design with this flaw.
2. Whilst the user is able to, OEMs are forbidden to remove or even move the four main tiles.
The four Microsoft tiles (Phone, Contacts, SMS and Email) must not be moved from the top of the list in their pre-defined locations.
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From the WP7 customization document given to OEMs - here. I therefore doubt that HTC would release a mock-up design like this.
Casey

Ive herd that W7 will support multi-operating systems on one phone. any one else here that?

I have a feeling the keyboardless WP7 phones are all going to look boringly similar.

I have a feeling the OEMavatar is just an avatar of what you would see when you connected the phone to the computer, and synced to Zune. Something like that. Maybe its just used as an image throughout the system with no significance. However, the picture in question looks interesting. We all know that HTC has been advertising and shouting their name on the phones a little more [i.e. bigger logos on the back]. Now, as far as i know, i dont think theyve ever included the phones name on the back. notice, HTC "Mandrian", but then again, one cant help but wonder if HTC is going somewhere new with their phones. The dual flash looks a little suspicious as well. And the curvature of the chin is un-HTC like. Until we know more about the person who submitted the photo, its all speculation..
just my 2 cents.. :]
whatever it is HTC has in store, i'm quite confident it wont disappoint. Has anyone been disappointed with the specs/design of HTC's phones lately? i know i havent.

josh_prayyforplagues said:
one cant help but wonder if HTC is going somewhere new with their phones.
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Well, the phone on the picture is anything but new, it's the good old HTC Touch HD.

A Qualcomm QSD8672 chipset? That would be crazy so I doubt it. On the other hand, devices featuring the QSD8672 chipset are expected to be launched in the second half of this year, so the time frame is right.
For those not familiar with the Qualcomm QSD8672 chipset, let's just say that it is a beast of a chipset. It features a dual core 1.5 GHz Scorpion CPU, a pretty decent GPU and 1080p encoding and decoding. The GPU is comparable, if not better, than what OMAP4, Tegra 2 and Samsung's Hummingbird have. The CPU is faster than anything else on the market and the chip has other benefits in comparison to the other SoC on the market. All in all, a very good chipset to have as your baseline specification of your platform.
But as I said, I doubt that the first WP7 phones will all have a Qualcomm QSD8672 chipset. One can always dream though :.

Quite frankly I think both pictures are fake. The first released picture like everyone else is saying is just a Blackstone. The second one is fake, because HTC doesn't actually have the OEM Name on the actual device. My Tilt2/TouchPro2 doesn't say 'Rhodium' on the back of the device. I don't think you would see 'Mondrian' on the back of this device when it comes out either.
Just think it's too early to speculate.

So many people with no clue here^^

So it's basically the HD3?
Not like we didn't see this coming. What I would like to see is a US launch of the device before the end of the year (as opposed to the HD2, which wasn't launched in the US until March).

The 2nd picture isn't a 'fake' but it could be a dummy image for the purposes of testing.
However....not sure if it has any bearing on reality or if they've ripped the info from other sources but the Mondrian is now listed on GSM Arena with it's specs etc and the same 'blackstone style' image.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_mondrian-3338.php
With regards to seeing 'branding' etc on the device, personally I feel that a prototype device might have branding for use within the design department of HTC perhaps.

a bit suspicious is that the accompanying specs that the tipster sent pocketnow differ from what we have seen references to.
Specifically:
Size: 116.7 x 58.7 x 11.9 mm
Display: 3.7" WVGA AMOLED capacitive touch screen
Camera: 8MP with auto focus with camera flash with High definition 720p video capture Internal memory: 16 GB flash, 512 MB RAM
Chipset: Qualcomm QSD8672, 1.5GHz
we're seeing references to a 4.3" display and a Qualcomm QSD8650A/B 1.3GHz CPU in the reg files of the rom.
Brandon Miniman (pocketnow.com)
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The 1.5Ghz Specs are 100% fake. Why am I the only one questioning them?
"HTC HD3 by NAK ... My concept about the HTC HD3 ..."
http://nak-design.over-blog.fr/
http://nak-design.over-blog.fr/pages/HTC_HD3_by_NAK_-2727167.html

Mondrian Spec?
hxxp://product.pcpop.com/pk/276905_266752.html
Scroll down, it shows 1GB RAM and 1280x800 resolution??

philliphs said:
hxxp://product.pcpop.com/pk/276905_266752.html
Scroll down, it shows 1GB RAM and 1280x800 resolution??
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..err...it also shows the Aria (the android phone) as having MS Office Mobile....don't think so somehow! I would say that this is made up from various sources and they havn't checked them very well.

1.3 Ghz processor whoa thats gonna be fast!!

micro USB???
No card slot??
i dont need to read anything more just to know this is sooooo fake!!!

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micro USB???
No card slot??
i dont need to read anything more just to know this is sooooo fake!!!
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MS have stated that WP7 devices will not have SD card slots and will come in various capacities instead...like the iphone (6gb, 16gb, 32gb etc) and there will be no file system access so they might have done away with micro usb and have a new connector type seeing as the WP7 phones need to be sync'd via the Zune software (also similar to the iphone + itunes)

welki1979 said:
MS have stated that WP7 devices will not have SD card slots and will come in various capacities instead...like the iphone (6gb, 16gb, 32gb etc) and there will be no file system access so they might have done away with micro usb and have a new connector type seeing as the WP7 phones need to be sync'd via the Zune software (also similar to the iphone + itunes)
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so microsoft's next phone is a lot like the iphone

there are a lot of similarities yes....but there are also a lot of differences between the iPhone and WP7.
The truth is that until the release (Dec 2010) we won't know the full details as a lot of functions will also be device specific. People seem to forget that MS set a MINIMUM specification but not a maximum one (obviously) but there are a number of RULEs that they are also enforcing such as the 'no removable SD card' rule and no custom UIs.

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HTC Polaris - new HTC Artemis!!!

HTC Polaris: a GPS-communicator with VGA
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The HTC roadmap published at CTIA Miami site contains the description of HTC Polaris. It is designed for GSM and WCDMA networks. Its design resembles that of HTC Artemis (P3300), however it has more powerful features: a VGA-display, large memory size, a 3-megapixel camera and so on.
The specs of HTC Polaris:
* Networks - GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, WCDMA/HSDPA 2100 MHz
* Operating system - Windows Mobile 6 Professional
* Chipset - Qualcomm MSM7200 (CPU 400 MHz)
* Display – 3.5” touchscreen VGA
* 128 MB RAM, 256 MB ROM
* MicroSD-slot
* Bluetooth, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g
* 3-megapixel camera with auto focus
* miniUSB, USB 1.1
* Digital compass
* GPS/AGPS
* FM-radio
This is the only device from the roadmap with the approximate release date (set for October 2007).
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/2007/June/22_eng.shtml#14509
WOW!
A faster CPU, VGA screen, and 3MP camera would be great!
Seems to be the perfect device.
Expect 3 things:
to big (3,5" Display)
No SDHC, and only MicroSD (should be SD compared to size)
No USB-Host
Display – 3.5” touchscreen VGA
if this also is true...... eat **** iphone
I think i've found my next phone come upgrade time.
please tell me it has a 3.5mm headphone socket and I will kiss you.
HTC get a deal to have opera installed and market this one well and it could piss all over iphone sales.
Imagine the adverts now;
iPhone.......Oh is that all it does
I already see the iPhone as inferior. First of all...who cares about Apple - thier main marketing tactic is not "look how you can use me" - it's " look how you look with me".
I think its a joke that their iPhone didn't come with built in GPS (look at the tear downs, there is spare room in that phone) (www.ifixit.com) nor is it a 3g phone. I think its rather insulting...only slightly less insulting than the idiots trying to sell them here in Europe when no known way to SIM unlock them exists.
Our phones are light years ahead in basic functionality.
*EDIT*
I stand corrected,
The iPhone can be unlocked....but it is still more hype than the price tag can justify...
http://nanocr.eu/2007/07/03/iphone-without-att/
The only thing I miss about my DXA 2i (HTC Alpine) is the big screen. The Orbit's features with the form factor of the Alpine gets my vote.
I think thats slightly unfair.
Iphone was marketted as being years ahead of it's competitors. Now that's just rubbish in terms of tech and functionality. However I think it's wrong not to give Apple it's dues in terms of interface, all it's pinching and finger sweeping is impressive, and it's no coincidence that we aim to emulate some of this from applications like Slide2Unlock and utilising Wisbar etc to emulate its GUI, to newer advances like HTC's Touchflo
Not only that but I do believe aesthetics are important. The iPhone does actually look good, now taste is a personal thing, but the iPod still manages to outsell much better MP3 players partly based on it's looks, partly it's simple interface, but mainly because iPod bother to market the thing. To me the release of the iPhone is important, not because it's a marvel of technology that deserves to be queued up for in the cold, but because it should give a kick up the arses to HTC et al about how this market should have been theirs by now, but they will watch the PDA/Phone market slip through their fingers unless they do something about it.
The Polaris looks a good step in the right direction, although it's still a bit ugly, but is anyone gonna queue up for it's release? It's the better phone compared to the iPod, but which will we see on the shelves of Phones 4 U and CPW.
This is going to become my next upgrade
Artemis has got a 2.8" Screen, will Polaris really have a 3,5" one???
Since it looks exactly like the artemis i cant believe this. If the display is larger the whole thing would be scaled up by 25%... I hope this is a typing mistake or something.
just made a image to compare sizes:
left is artemis (2.8'' screen), right is polaris (3.5'' screen)
What the iPhone is ahead is the multi-touch screen
If those stats are true, that phone is a beast.
pocketnow.com has a newer concept picture (obviously CG) that is intriguing. In this concept it is using a flush screen like the touch. With the ability to get closer to the edges of the phone it might be less bulky than the scaled picture above.
If that is the case it is going to be a hard choice between the Kaiser and the Polaris. Time will tell I guess.
http://pocketnow.com/html/portal/news/0000004318/NewsImage/POLARIS.jpg
wish list
if only the SIM/mSd slots were accesible from outside!
looking to Janetpanic provided pic from pocketnow, looking to the side of the device, it COULD have slots there
is it just wishfull thinking?
sirgawain123 said:
if only the SIM/mSd slots were accesible from outside!
looking to Janetpanic provided pic from pocketnow, looking to the side of the device, it COULD have slots there
is it just wishfull thinking?
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I don't think it is just wishful thinking, most of HTC's large devices have full sized SD card slots.
This device is definately an Iphone-killer - whoo-ha.
If the people at HTC would get touchflo better implemented...
(there are still "breaks" in the handling of the device where you have to take out the stylus and click on small buttons or use the d-pad...)
For instance you touch to the photos:
Once you open a photo you can´t scroll through all your pictures without using the d-pad - why?
But HTC seems to be on the way... hopefully Tochflo 2.0 solves this and some other issues...
Mic
I did like the look of the iphone at first, it did seem very well done, smooth. Like it all worked together. And with the OS at 700mb I should think so too.
However it has some major MAJOR flaws.
First, no 3G. Which for a phone ahead of its time its not even keeping up with the now.Then there is the lack of MMS. Yup, this future, super advanced phone cant do MMS.
Then the lack of 3rd Party apps. The killer of all. They tie you into a 2 year contract and you cant install your own apps. What about expense tracking? What about en eWallet and WHAT ABOUT GPS!
So apple are saying, their phone which is 5 years ahead of everything else cant do GPS and the other stuff my artemis can? Weird.
Yes the screen is nice and the multi touch too. But that doenst make it ahead of the rest.
If I could have tomtom on it I may be tempted to switch. But its a closed system. Its the reason MACs arnt mainstream and the Commodore Amiga died. Closed architecture is a death sentence to every thing. Closed architecture suits the old folk who just want something to do what it was designed to. I personally love the tweaking and making it do what I want it to.
Bring on the Polaris. Just needs WM7 and its sorted.
Looks like it'll be a super-beefed up artemis rather than a large version which is what I hoped for.
evaluator said:
Looks like it'll be a super-beefed up artemis rather than a large version which is what I hoped for.
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little (BIG) mistake, should be like this:
Is that a nicely done photoshop?

Windows Phone 7 - Hardware Requirements, Device Classes, and Chassis specifications

Rather than be designed to run on a wide range of screen resolutions, form factors, and platforms, WP7 is designed to focus on a "class" of devices. Each class is defined by a set of hardware specs for a chassis.
There is a baseline set of Hardware components required, on top of which the chassis specs are applied. The base set of HW components are:
ARMv7 based applications processor (compare this to ARMv4 for WinMo 6.x)
Hardware accelerated DirectX and Direct3D (compositing is a big feature in WP7 and without HW accel won't run at an acceptable framerate)
Capacative multi-touch screen
Camera
Bluetooth + Wi-Fi
FM Radio
A-GPS
Accelerometer, compass, light, proximity sensor
Microsoft provides a set of built-in drivers for these components (1 driver for each component), to simplify the development process for the OEM. The OEM is not required to use these exact components but doing so means they don't have to spend time developing drivers for them (MSFT provides source and PDD bits) - so these are likely to be the components we find in first-generation WP7 devices. There is currently one main development platform and that is the QSD8x50 (snapdragon).
These components are in what's termed the "Silicon Catalog", and they are:
Accelerometer - Bosch - BMA 150
Compass - Yamaha - YAS529
Ambient Light Sensor - Capella - CM3612
Proximity Sensor - Capella - CM3612
Wi-Fi - Atheros - 6002
FM Radio - SiLabs - 4705
Digital Camera - Aptina - MT9P012 (5MP)
Capacative Touch Controller - Cypress Semiconductor - 301x series
The first chassis to be targeted for initial release is the "Performance Chassis" - adding on top of these base requirements a WVGA screen.
Other chassis will follow after the initial release - I would expect there to be a higher class/chassis added later. Currently we run 192 DPI for WVGA and the current WP7 build has support for 262 DPI (incomplete as of this writing) so we can more than likely expect to see larger "tablet" styled devices later.
So, is there any requirement for some kind of hardware scaler? When I first heard about it, I instantly thought "rubbish, snapdragon has enough graphics hardware".
Bump for visibility
posibility working possible in hd2 ?
EVO
So the HTC EVO that is on Sprint meets all of these requirements correct? ANd it is an HTC so theoretically if Someone cracks the HTC Rom soon they could dump Windows Phone 7 on the EVO?
JDMountford said:
So the HTC EVO that is on Sprint meets all of these requirements correct? ANd it is an HTC so theoretically if Someone cracks the HTC Rom soon they could dump Windows Phone 7 on the EVO?
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Yes, the EVO meets the basic hardware requirements, but so does the HD2, and the HD2 runs Windows Mobile already, which I suspect makes it slightly easier.
I seriously doubt the EVO will see WP7.
How about porting it to the HTC Desire?
Lol. Love all these posts with people wanting it on their devices. Hey, I've an old brick phone from 1993 that has a b/w lcd display, couldn't you hack it to make it look like wp7....
(Sense the sarcasm)
I know people say that the HD2 meets requirements and that WP7 should run but was just wondering if anybody knows of any potential reasons why it wouldnt run WP7.
Im getting a HD2 in a couple of days so am just curious. tbh I dont really like the look of WP7, I think it looks annoying and ridiculous so far but would just like to flash and try it out for the fun of it.
@nexus one hope see it! wm7
Just for the buzz, little of topic : Some picture of WP7 device @ Microsoft France Paris : http://www.frogz.fr/WindowsPhone/post/2010/07/29/Fan-Day-Windows-Phone-7-Les-photos-!.aspx
l3v5y said:
Yes, the EVO meets the basic hardware requirements, but so does the HD2, and the HD2 runs Windows Mobile already, which I suspect makes it slightly easier.
I seriously doubt the EVO will see WP7.
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I thought that WP7 was rebuilt from the ground up so it would be entirely different from WM6.5 and below?
Windows Phone 7 Chasis 2
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soooo......3 buttons where????
The HTC HD have MSM7201A ARM9 CPU, can run WinMo7?
hugomenezes said:
The HTC HD have MSM7201A ARM9 CPU, can run WinMo7?
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fgghjjkll said:
I thought that WP7 was rebuilt from the ground up so it would be entirely different from WM6.5 and below?
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It is pretty much entirely different, but WM6.X BSPs do exist for the WM6 devices, which is a massive advantage.
TheATHEiST said:
I know people say that the HD2 meets requirements and that WP7 should run but was just wondering if anybody knows of any potential reasons why it wouldnt run WP7.
Im getting a HD2 in a couple of days so am just curious. tbh I dont really like the look of WP7, I think it looks annoying and ridiculous so far but would just like to flash and try it out for the fun of it.
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I've heard things from Not enough ram (T-mobile forums) to MS stating too many HW buttons "It has more than 3"
however I am not really buying into it as gsm arena shows multiple devices with less ram and rom storage with WP7 as the OS.
anthonyp37 said:
Lol. Love all these posts with people wanting it on their devices. Hey, I've an old brick phone from 1993 that has a b/w lcd display, couldn't you hack it to make it look like wp7....
(Sense the sarcasm)
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Are you talking about HTC sense
just kidding
anhyeuemmaimai said:
I've heard things from Not enough ram (T-mobile forums) to MS stating too many HW buttons "It has more than 3"
however I am not really buying into it as gsm arena shows multiple devices with less ram and rom storage with WP7 as the OS.
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Most comments during MSFT MiX event earlier this year were to the lack of a HW camera button, which is required to my understanding
Also the US HD2 not only has 1GB of ROM storage, but also 576 MB of RAM. there isn't a device I'm aware of on the market with more RAM
SN: HTC is releasing on Tmobile US the HTC HD7, unsurprisingly the phone has very similar internal specs. identical except 720p video capture. the device will employ different chassis design along with the MSFT specified buttons.
Signo371 said:
Lol. Love all these posts with people wanting it on their devices. Hey, I've an old brick phone from 1993 that has a b/w lcd display, couldn't you hack it to make it look like wp7....
(Sense the sarcasm)
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hahaha! dam now that was funny. caught me off guard reading that one

defy's cpu - the final answer

Finally we have an official response from Motorola.
I'm quite surprised but it's true, defy is equipped with omap3610.
BUT also, it has been confirmed that defy has a PowerVR SGX 530 renderer inside.
http://community.developer.motorola...elopment-resources-available/td-p/7794/page/3
What's your opinion? Why an omap3610 + separate graphic renderer instead of omap3630 (which has the same renderer inside)?
Like i said i'm quite surprised, i was pretty sure the defy's core was 3630. But in my opinion what really matters is the graphic renderer, and it is present!
I can only assume it was cheaper to buy and/or productize the two separate chips as opposed to the 3630.
i can' believe that answer......
'omap3610 + separate graphic renderer' is cheaper than omap 3630 ??
is it possible?
Actually one can Believe that do to Yield when producing the product. Its the same thing with multi-core chips. Putting 2 dual core chips into a CPU is cheaper in the long run than putting 1 quad core because of flaws in the Production of the cores. don't believe me look it up. It could have been a deal brokered to Motorola because of excess yield of a chip made it cheaper to buy them in massive quantity. Shortages of the chip you mentioned but availability of the 2 chip combo could have been another cause.
Well.. this is shaping up to be interesting.
I've heard this thing benchmarks like a beast.. so it will be interesting to see what happens with froyo..
It does make sense instead of an SoC like hummingbird they could have two dedicated chips.. I would imagine with SoC's they run into a lot of potential problems.. if one part on the chip is bad whole chip is bad..
Although it would be funny if they manage to shove an old 8800 into there somehow..
I think MOTO didn't tell the truth!
you wont hear that but ....
the 3610 doesnt has an ISP (Image Signal Processor) !!!
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source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_OMAP#OMAP3
3630 has 3D and IVA 2+
Code:
IVA 2+ accelerator enables multistandard
(MPEG-4, H.264) encode/
decode and WMV9 encode at D1
(720 x 480 pixels), 30 fps
Up to 720p HD resolution
3620 has IVA AND 3D
3610 has IVA
Code:
IVA 2 accelerator enables
VGA to DVD video content playback
up to XGA/WXGA display resolutions
so defy cpu/gpu combo is more like 3620
source: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ml/swpt024b/swpt024b.pdf
That only affects camera picture quality. Phone cams are useless anyway.
I don't believe it.
Everything I have ever plugged the phone into/bench mark tools are telling me its a 3630, including RSD Lite. Nothing has ever told me its a 3610.
My personal opinion, is that Motorola don't want to advertise that it has this CPU as the phone is much cheaper than its "higher end" models and they don't want everyone going out and buying the defy over say the Droid X or Droid 2.
Whatever its got the bench mark results of this phone are awsome - and its on 2.1.
Higgsy said:
I don't believe it.
Everything I have ever plugged the phone into/bench mark tools are telling me its a 3630, including RSD Lite. Nothing has ever told me its a 3610.
My personal opinion, is that Motorola don't want to advertise that it has this CPU as the phone is much cheaper than its "higher end" models and they don't want everyone going out and buying the defy over say the Droid X or Droid 2.
Whatever its got the bench mark results of this phone are awsome - and its on 2.1.
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Agree with you
I agree too. Lets get the camera to record 720p - then we will have evidence.
shorty66 said:
I agree too. Lets get the camera to record 720p - then we will have evidence.
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yeah deffo
shorty66 said:
I agree too. Lets get the camera to record 720p - then we will have evidence.
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yep,hope so
jellydonut said:
That only affects camera picture quality. Phone cams are useless anyway.
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playback of 720p is a little laggy ....
The 3610 and 3630 have the same APU, right?
And apparently Motorola have paired the 3610 up with the same GPU that the 3630 has built-in, right?
So rather than it being a 3630 that's built in and Motorola are lying, isn't it more likely that the software that reports it to be a 3630 SoC is incorrectly identifying it due to the GPU?
I mean, as far as any software is concerned, if it's the APU that the 3630 has and the GPU that the 3630 has, then it must be a 3630.
Just a quick thought. Would a OMAP3610 have a external bus interface where you could hook up a SGX530 core to ?
Looking at the info for the AM37xx/DM37xx the only way you could hook up such a thing would be throu a memory interface, which IMHO is rather painful.
android.modaco.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=320961&view=findpost&p=1478526
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Just a rethorical question: if it's a 3610 with an "external" GPU, then why even device "says" it's a 3630? (Cannot post correct links, sorry.)
TPGamer said:
Just a rethorical question: if it's a 3610 with an "external" GPU, then why even device "says" it's a 3630? (Cannot post correct links, sorry.)
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My post (2 above yours) offers (IMO) one potential theory why that's the case.
Step666 said:
My post (2 above yours) offers (IMO) one potential theory why that's the case.
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I'm not great with low level hardware stuff, but win7/moto usb drivers identify the device by some kind of ID, right? The guy on mocado said, that the picture in his second post is made, when he was about to flash a new ROM on the phone. And the boot ROM is in the SoC, along with the USB controller. So in that case basicly the SoC identifies it self as a 3630. Correct me if I'm wrong, as I said before, I'm not great with this kind of stuff.

Nokia 900 could be the Holy Grail

If the rumours are true that is.
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http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/nokia-900-windows-phone-handset-tipped-in-leak
Interestingly enough there is no mention of FFC and I can't see one in the pic. Hope that's not the case, provided that thing is real to begin with.
Could be a fake but if this is real I won't care about FFC, it's not like I would actually use it.
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If the rumours are true that is.
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/nokia-900-windows-phone-handset-tipped-in-leak
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I agree. Now that looks like a Nokia WP7 I could love.
I heard it's a fake.
That's pretty bad since I am still waiting for a 32Gb device.
the specs looks good but i am digging the nokia 800/sea ray design more
I think it's fake:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/25/nokia-lumia-800-and-710-windows-phones-slip-out-ahead-of-tomorro/
Why would the other 2 be called "Lumia 800" and "Lumia 710" and this just be called "900" (and not "Lumia 900")
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I think it's fake:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/25/nokia-lumia-800-and-710-windows-phones-slip-out-ahead-of-tomorro/
Why would the other 2 be called "Lumia 800" and "Lumia 710" and this just be called "900" (and not "Lumia 900")
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It does look exactly like an Omnia 7. http://cdn.cbsi.com.au/story_media/339306547/samsung_1.jpg
I think it looks awesome, would love to have a 4 to 4.3 in WP7 Mango Phone, but feel this is fake because it lists 512MB ROM, I haven't seen ROM listings on any WP7 devices because of the built in memory. I just hope the Lumia 800 comes to Sprint, would love a device with bigger screen and no keyboard.
It's fake.
yankodesign.com/2010/12/24/multiple-oss-on-a-smartphone
However, I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Lumia 900 will be revealed tomorrow, and it will have a microSD slot.
Why?
Take a look at the Lumia 800 spec sheet. It says "no uSD" (the u is a micro), which sucks. Now why would they advertise a lack of a feature, unless it was to compare it with a phone that has the feature?
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the specs looks good but i am digging the nokia 800/sea ray design more
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Yeah, me too, and the screen size is perfect for me. The looming threat of PenTile and 16GB only announcements likely to come out tomorrow spoil the party though...
Best title ever for a thread, Peew.
If these specs turn out to be true, then I know what device I'll purchase next. I'd prefer the Lumia 720 design wise though. But the 4.3" SAMOLED screen plus 32 GB storage mean more to me than the look of the device (which isn't too shabby to be honest).
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It's fake.
yankodesign.com/2010/12/24/multiple-oss-on-a-smartphone
However, I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Lumia 900 will be revealed tomorrow, and it will have a microSD slot.
Why?
Take a look at the Lumia 800 spec sheet. It says "no uSD" (the u is a micro), which sucks. Now why would they advertise a lack of a feature, unless it was to compare it with a phone that has the feature?
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I noticed that and thought it was odd and that would make sense i do think there will be a top end devise as well. I just cant wait to see the searay though and hope that now nokia world is kicking off i will be able to get my order in
The consensus seems to be a fake...unfortunately
It's a concept designed by MindSailors. Check out the link below and go to the Design Showcase -> Electronic's section to see the high res pictures of that concept. You'll notice that the only difference between this and the leaked picture is the tile's background colour has been changed and they've added in the Nokia Nav tile.
http://www.mindsailors.com/
If Nokia releases something with the body of the Sea Ray aka 800 with a 4"+ screen, front facing camera & 32GB+ of storage, I will not be able to buy it fast enough.
Please don't disappoint me tomorrow! 3.7" and no FFC is no good as much as I love that body style.
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If Nokia releases something with the body of the Sea Ray aka 800 with a 4"+ screen, front facing camera & 32GB+ of storage, I will not be able to buy it fast enough.
Please don't disappoint me tomorrow! 3.7" and no FFC is no good as much as I love that body style.
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I'm in on that action too. In fact, you'd better wear your bestest and fastest tennis shoes because I intend to outrun you.
By the way, you ever see an old man hobble like a jack rabbit? Let Nokia put that love out and you will.
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If the rumours are true that is.
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/nokia-900-windows-phone-handset-tipped-in-leak
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Is this supposed to be the "Ace"? If so isn't that device going to have LTE which isn't going to be supported until Tango early next year?
I have my eye on the Ace if it does indeed have the 4.3" amoled display with LTE and FFC, 1.4 Ghz CPU, etc...
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Is this supposed to be the "Ace"? If so isn't that device going to have LTE which isn't going to be supported until Tango early next year?
I have my eye on the Ace if it does indeed have the 4.3" amoled display with LTE and FFC, 1.4 Ghz CPU, etc...
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It's fake.
dtboos said:
If Nokia releases something with the body of the Sea Ray aka 800 with a 4"+ screen, front facing camera & 32GB+ of storage, I will not be able to buy it fast enough.
Please don't disappoint me tomorrow! 3.7" and no FFC is no good as much as I love that body style.
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If it has those specs and sea ray shape, I am willing to take the heat from my wife, This would be my 3rd new phone in 12 months.

HTC unveils 8x and 8s windows smartphone

Looks like the HTC event released the HTC 8x and 8s
More info to come
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Specs:
here are specs for thoose 3 phones
HTC “Zenith”
Display: 4.7” 720p Super LCD2
Camera: 8 megapixels (1080p capture)
Processor: Quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon
Memory: ? GB RAM
Network: 42Mbps HSPA+ (International Variant)
Release: 4Q 2012
HTC “Accord”
Display: 4.3” 720p Super LCD2
Camera: 8 megapixels (1080p capture)
Processor: Dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon (MSM8260A)
Memory: 1 GB RAM
Network: 42Mbps HSPA+ (International Variant)
Release: October 2012
HTC “Rio”
Display: 4” WVGA
Camera: 5 megapixels (720p capture)
Processor: Qualcomm Snapdragon (MSM8227)
Memory: 512 MB RAM
Network: 14.4Mbps HSPA (International Variant)
Release: October 2012
It is said that the phones will come with NFC support too, complementing Windows Phone 8’s new Wallet experience. Other specs are unknown at the moment, including the specifications of front facing camera (if any), storage size (or if microSD slots are available), and how fast the processors are. Of course, all of the above information are unconfirmed, so take this with a pinch of salt. So how do you like the above three phones? Will you get any of them at launch?
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Lol i'm watching it now!
Planning on 8s if its cheap
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here are specs for thoose 3 phones
specs is from livesite.net
HTC “Zenith”
Display: 4.7” 720p Super LCD2
Camera: 8 megapixels (1080p capture)
Processor: Quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon
Memory: ? GB RAM
Network: 42Mbps HSPA+ (International Variant)
Release: 4Q 2012
HTC “Accord”
Display: 4.3” 720p Super LCD2
Camera: 8 megapixels (1080p capture)
Processor: Dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon (MSM8260A)
Memory: 1 GB RAM
Network: 42Mbps HSPA+ (International Variant)
Release: October 2012
HTC “Rio”
Display: 4” WVGA
Camera: 5 megapixels (720p capture)
Processor: Qualcomm Snapdragon (MSM8227)
Memory: 512 MB RAM
Network: 14.4Mbps HSPA (International Variant)
Release: October 2012
It is said that the phones will come with NFC support too, complementing Windows Phone 8’s new Wallet experience. Other specs are unknown at the moment, including the specifications of front facing camera (if any), storage size (or if microSD slots are available), and how fast the processors are. Of course, all of the above information are unconfirmed, so take this with a pinch of salt. So how do you like the above three phones? Will you get any of them at launch? Let us know in the comments below!
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Windows Phone just uploaded a video on their YouTube channel. It will give a brief look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgJC91D9qlY
here are the spec sheets
and I thought there'd be a chance where they would announce jelly bean for the One android series. *sigh
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here are the spec sheets
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Thanks Hamdir
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monchee said:
and I thought there'd be a chance where they would announce jelly bean for the One android series. *sigh
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http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/htcs-one-x-jelly-bean-rollout-plans-detailed-r725
Beats Audio on Windows New thing
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Beats Audio on Windows New thing
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Beats Audio is nothing more than marketing, it's just taking compressed music and applying equaliser settings to make the music 'pop'. It's little different to any other settings you get on audio devices that claim to make some improvement, which anyone really wanting good audio quality would defeat straight away.
Nice looking phones though, bet they would run Jelly Bean just great
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i bet my cookies this phone is gonna fail
(becoz its not android)
I bet the zenith is gonna be awesome
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Beats Audio is nothing more than marketing, it's just taking compressed music and applying equaliser settings to make the music 'pop'. It's little different to any other settings you get on audio devices that claim to make some improvement, which anyone really wanting good audio quality would defeat straight away.
Nice looking phones though, bet they would run Jelly Bean just great
Regards
Phil
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well not this time, they actually hav an amp on the thing
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well not this time, they actually hav an amp on the thing
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Yeah i think the windows sense has an seperate SDK for it they might soon release it for windows developers
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the name is: Windows Phone 8X by HTC, kinda like the Nexus
so no one shared his hands on the audio quality yet? does the amp really work?
hamdir said:
the name is: Windows Phone 8X by HTC, kinda like the Nexus
so no one shared his hands on the audio quality yet? does the amp really work?
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There would be an amp and something else to do with the eqs and simple beats audio profile
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hamdir said:
well not this time, they actually hav an amp on the thing
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They always have had an amplifier, otherwise you wouldn't hear anything :cyclops: More marketing and hype.
Regards
Phil
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They always have had an amplifier, otherwise you wouldn't hear anything :cyclops: More marketing and hype.
Regards
Phil
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Yeah its a marketing hype...just what the one x had
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