HTC Polaris: a GPS-communicator with VGA
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The HTC roadmap published at CTIA Miami site contains the description of HTC Polaris. It is designed for GSM and WCDMA networks. Its design resembles that of HTC Artemis (P3300), however it has more powerful features: a VGA-display, large memory size, a 3-megapixel camera and so on.
The specs of HTC Polaris:
* Networks - GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, WCDMA/HSDPA 2100 MHz
* Operating system - Windows Mobile 6 Professional
* Chipset - Qualcomm MSM7200 (CPU 400 MHz)
* Display – 3.5” touchscreen VGA
* 128 MB RAM, 256 MB ROM
* MicroSD-slot
* Bluetooth, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g
* 3-megapixel camera with auto focus
* miniUSB, USB 1.1
* Digital compass
* GPS/AGPS
* FM-radio
This is the only device from the roadmap with the approximate release date (set for October 2007).
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/2007/June/22_eng.shtml#14509
WOW!
A faster CPU, VGA screen, and 3MP camera would be great!
Seems to be the perfect device.
Expect 3 things:
to big (3,5" Display)
No SDHC, and only MicroSD (should be SD compared to size)
No USB-Host
Display – 3.5” touchscreen VGA
if this also is true...... eat **** iphone
I think i've found my next phone come upgrade time.
please tell me it has a 3.5mm headphone socket and I will kiss you.
HTC get a deal to have opera installed and market this one well and it could piss all over iphone sales.
Imagine the adverts now;
iPhone.......Oh is that all it does
I already see the iPhone as inferior. First of all...who cares about Apple - thier main marketing tactic is not "look how you can use me" - it's " look how you look with me".
I think its a joke that their iPhone didn't come with built in GPS (look at the tear downs, there is spare room in that phone) (www.ifixit.com) nor is it a 3g phone. I think its rather insulting...only slightly less insulting than the idiots trying to sell them here in Europe when no known way to SIM unlock them exists.
Our phones are light years ahead in basic functionality.
*EDIT*
I stand corrected,
The iPhone can be unlocked....but it is still more hype than the price tag can justify...
http://nanocr.eu/2007/07/03/iphone-without-att/
The only thing I miss about my DXA 2i (HTC Alpine) is the big screen. The Orbit's features with the form factor of the Alpine gets my vote.
I think thats slightly unfair.
Iphone was marketted as being years ahead of it's competitors. Now that's just rubbish in terms of tech and functionality. However I think it's wrong not to give Apple it's dues in terms of interface, all it's pinching and finger sweeping is impressive, and it's no coincidence that we aim to emulate some of this from applications like Slide2Unlock and utilising Wisbar etc to emulate its GUI, to newer advances like HTC's Touchflo
Not only that but I do believe aesthetics are important. The iPhone does actually look good, now taste is a personal thing, but the iPod still manages to outsell much better MP3 players partly based on it's looks, partly it's simple interface, but mainly because iPod bother to market the thing. To me the release of the iPhone is important, not because it's a marvel of technology that deserves to be queued up for in the cold, but because it should give a kick up the arses to HTC et al about how this market should have been theirs by now, but they will watch the PDA/Phone market slip through their fingers unless they do something about it.
The Polaris looks a good step in the right direction, although it's still a bit ugly, but is anyone gonna queue up for it's release? It's the better phone compared to the iPod, but which will we see on the shelves of Phones 4 U and CPW.
This is going to become my next upgrade
Artemis has got a 2.8" Screen, will Polaris really have a 3,5" one???
Since it looks exactly like the artemis i cant believe this. If the display is larger the whole thing would be scaled up by 25%... I hope this is a typing mistake or something.
just made a image to compare sizes:
left is artemis (2.8'' screen), right is polaris (3.5'' screen)
What the iPhone is ahead is the multi-touch screen
If those stats are true, that phone is a beast.
pocketnow.com has a newer concept picture (obviously CG) that is intriguing. In this concept it is using a flush screen like the touch. With the ability to get closer to the edges of the phone it might be less bulky than the scaled picture above.
If that is the case it is going to be a hard choice between the Kaiser and the Polaris. Time will tell I guess.
http://pocketnow.com/html/portal/news/0000004318/NewsImage/POLARIS.jpg
wish list
if only the SIM/mSd slots were accesible from outside!
looking to Janetpanic provided pic from pocketnow, looking to the side of the device, it COULD have slots there
is it just wishfull thinking?
sirgawain123 said:
if only the SIM/mSd slots were accesible from outside!
looking to Janetpanic provided pic from pocketnow, looking to the side of the device, it COULD have slots there
is it just wishfull thinking?
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I don't think it is just wishful thinking, most of HTC's large devices have full sized SD card slots.
This device is definately an Iphone-killer - whoo-ha.
If the people at HTC would get touchflo better implemented...
(there are still "breaks" in the handling of the device where you have to take out the stylus and click on small buttons or use the d-pad...)
For instance you touch to the photos:
Once you open a photo you can´t scroll through all your pictures without using the d-pad - why?
But HTC seems to be on the way... hopefully Tochflo 2.0 solves this and some other issues...
Mic
I did like the look of the iphone at first, it did seem very well done, smooth. Like it all worked together. And with the OS at 700mb I should think so too.
However it has some major MAJOR flaws.
First, no 3G. Which for a phone ahead of its time its not even keeping up with the now.Then there is the lack of MMS. Yup, this future, super advanced phone cant do MMS.
Then the lack of 3rd Party apps. The killer of all. They tie you into a 2 year contract and you cant install your own apps. What about expense tracking? What about en eWallet and WHAT ABOUT GPS!
So apple are saying, their phone which is 5 years ahead of everything else cant do GPS and the other stuff my artemis can? Weird.
Yes the screen is nice and the multi touch too. But that doenst make it ahead of the rest.
If I could have tomtom on it I may be tempted to switch. But its a closed system. Its the reason MACs arnt mainstream and the Commodore Amiga died. Closed architecture is a death sentence to every thing. Closed architecture suits the old folk who just want something to do what it was designed to. I personally love the tweaking and making it do what I want it to.
Bring on the Polaris. Just needs WM7 and its sorted.
Looks like it'll be a super-beefed up artemis rather than a large version which is what I hoped for.
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Looks like it'll be a super-beefed up artemis rather than a large version which is what I hoped for.
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little (BIG) mistake, should be like this:
Is that a nicely done photoshop?
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Hey guys, bought finally a Blackberry Javelin (Curve 8900) and want to share my initial impressions. Maybe of interest for you because you like the BB form factor in general. I think the classic Blackberry form factor employed in all wide BBs, the BlackJack and the Excalibur is the best form for a phone.
Had Blackbarrys from my company for years, then the BlackJack great phone with worse speaker quality (very low volume) more than a year, tried the Excalibur now as I wrote in another post. Great phone with excellent xda-dev-support. But still some weaknesses. So I bought the Javelin in a weak moment:
Pros
- Excellent hardware & build quality, small, tight, solid, round, smooth, much better than the bold which has its name for a good reason. Better materials than most phones.
- The keyboard rocks. No other keyboard matches this keyboard, even better than the Bold because less finger movements required. The old Treos come very close (680, 750). Perfect form, space within keys and hub => short and crisp hub. Blackjack was too hard to press, Excalibur too long hub and wobbly feeling, Treo to round, but similar crisp hub and space between keys.
- The trackball, so precise and fast, EPIX could match, but the software implementation of the touchpad isn't on par with RIMs trackball implementation.
- Great screen, not the Touch Diamonds resolution but it's near
- Great UI, really!. After a days you understand how many thoughts the RIM engineers made, e.g.: the Media Player is despite keylock fully accessible, shortcuts everywhere like R for reply, overall you are pretty fast with the OS.
- Slick and unobtrusive GUI design
Cons
- No ActiveSync OTA only expensive BIS/BES service
- No xda-dev community instead somehow weird BB forums
- Feels somehow closed/undocumented like a black box, couldn't get Google Maps to work, maybe because of missing BIS/BES service
- Browser is for a BB browser very, very good but doesn't match latest Opera on Touch Diamond.
- A2DP sound quality good but cannot be tweaked to the max as with WM devices.
- No 3G but EDGE
If you ask me to choose one phone, I couldn't decide for one (currently the Javelin and the Touch Diamond, because there's no up-to-date WM phone with BB form factor). Overall the WM phone is capable of everything and a lot of stuff can be done a little better (e.g. A2DP quality tweaking) and the UI of WM6 plus Touch Flow isn't that bad. The Javelin is a rock-solid experience, hardware and software are seamlessly put together, better than by the iPhone done. I miss some features with the Javelin but at the end of the day the core and few non-core phone features like cam and media are prefectly realized. At the moment I use both phones with multiple SIMs depending on my mood.
Oh nice thanks for putting this information together. This could be very useful from some who are deciding to upgrade their dash.
Not ever, not in a trillion billion years. No blackberry has nor will one ever be held to my head.
Nuff said
Bupahs said:
Not ever, not in a trillion billion years. No blackberry has nor will one ever be held to my head.
Nuff said
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Funny as i was going to post similar yesterday lol, something about blasphemy and mods please delete
I didnt know HTC made the Blackberry's?
(in Re: to the removal of our Moto Q discussion, Hmmm...same form factor )
stylez said:
Funny as i was going to post similar yesterday lol, something about blasphemy and mods please delete
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lol, well I went out on a limb, I have a strong personal dislike for the BB
crackberry
THE only thing in my opinion that the BBs have that is any good is their tracball, that's it. My buddy from work has a curve/javelin and I think it sucks, that's just my opinion, not trying to disrespect anyone, cause when we were comparing phones ,even though he loves his bberry, he was amazed at how much customizability and how much more fun the dash is. That's all.
Yah the trackball is amazing, I got to give that to you...
I bought one on Friday and must say I love it to bits
EN4CER69 said:
I bought one on Friday and must say I love it to bits
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blasphemy, sellout, traitor , JK.
I think the curve 8320 was a good phone with the best keyboard ever, but It cant do all the goodies winmo phones can do.
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now...this is a trackball....right?
First available on the Android-based HTC Hero, but according to HTC German press release today "also available soon across the whole portfolio of all new HTC phones" - including all new WM phones!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiU3v_VLmcY
"HTC Hero is the world’s first Android-based phone with a
customized user interface
HTC Sense to be integrated across a portfolio of
phones beginning with HTC Hero
LONDON – June 24, 2009 – HTC Corporation, a global designer of mobile phones, today debuted HTC Sense™, an intuitive and seamless experience that will be introduced across a portfolio of phones beginning with the new HTC Hero™. With its distinct design and powerful capabilities fully integrated with HTC Sense, Hero introduces a unique blend of form and function that takes Android to new heights.
HTC Sense is focused on putting people at the centre, by making your phone work in a more simple and natural way. This experience revolves around three fundamental principles that were designed by quietly observing and listening to how people live and communicate.
‘HTC Hero introduces a more natural way for reaching out to people and accessing your important information, not by following the status quo of today’s phones, but by following how you communicate and live your life,’ said Peter Chou, Chief Executive Officer, HTC Corporation. ”HTC Sense is a distinct experience created to make HTC phones more simple for people to use, leaving them saying, “it just makes sense.”’
HTC Hero
HTC Hero continues HTC’s leadership in cutting-edge design that focuses on introducing a variety of distinct devices to represent your own individuality. Boasting bevelled edges and an angled bottom, the HTC Hero is contoured to fit comfortably in your hand and against your face while you’re on a call. The HTC Hero is built to last, beginning with an anti-fingerprint screen coating for improved smudge-resistance and a longer-lasting, clearer display. The white HTC Hero includes an industry-first, Teflon coating, resulting in an improved, durable white surface that is soft to the touch.
With its 3.2-inch HVGA display, the HTC Hero is optimized for Web, multimedia and other content, while maintaining a small size and weight that fits comfortably in your hand. It also boasts a broad variety of hardware features including AGPS, digital compass, gravity-sensor, 3.5mm stereo headset jack, a five mega-pixel autofocus camera and expandable MicroSD memory. HTC Hero also includes a dedicated Search button that goes beyond basic search, providing you with a more natural, contextual search experience that enables you to search through Twitter, locate people in your contact list, find emails in your inbox or search in any other area in Hero.
HTC Sense
Built on a culture of innovation and a passion to enhance people’s lives, HTC shapes the mobile experience around the individual. Debuting on the HTC Hero and available on all new HTC devices moving forward, Sense delivers on three basic principles: Make it Mine, Stay Close and Discover the Unexpected.
Make It Mine
Make It Mine is about feeling your HTC phone was created for and by you. To do this, HTC encourages you to dictate and organize how you want to access the people and content in your life in a way that fits best for you. For some, this means adding glance-view widgets that push content like twitter feeds, weather and other content to the surface while others may want quick access to business-focused information like email, calendar and world-times. HTC is also introducing a new profile feature called ‘Scenes’ that enables you to create different customized content profiles around specific functions or times in your life.
Stay Close
Today, staying in touch with the people in your life means managing a variety of communication channels and applications ranging from phone calls, emails, texts, photos, status updates and more. HTC Sense takes a different approach by integrating these communication channels and applications into one single view, enabling you to stay closer to your important people. With HTC Sense, friends’ Facebook status updates and photos, along with their Flickr photos are included alongside their text messages, emails and call history in a single view.
Discover the Unexpected
Many of the most memorable moments in your life are experienced, not explained. HTC Sense is focused on providing a variety of these simple yet innovative experiences on your HTC phone that will sometimes bring you moments of joy and delight. It can be something as basic as turning the phone over to silence a ring or as simple as improving the smart dialler for making calls quicker. HTC Sense also includes ‘Perspectives’, a new way for viewing your content such as email, photos, Twitter, music and more in different ways.
Availability
The HTC Hero will be available to people across Europe in July and in Asia later in the summer. A distinct North American version will be available later in 2009."
looks very nice, Wonder if it can be ported to the HD and how much memory it uses. I get angry if im using more than 50% RAM
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I get angry if im using more than 50% RAM
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I hear you brother.
Looks sweet. Hope it won't take too long to be ported over to our HD's
Not of sure if I made myself clear, will be available for both Android and WM, so port should be very quick once the cabs can be extracted from a WM device.
this is what i allways disliked about TF3D
WOW! looks nice!! lets hope they can keep the RAM usage down!
Always hated TF3D for lack of customization. This seems really to change all that.
Thanks for the promising news
Regards
/Frewys
Amazing interface. Can't wait to get this it. I was working an a more iphone-esque interface (iHd) but if this can get ported then I would give up on that. Looks brilliant.
Hopefully HTC will encourage third party widgets and we can get lots of functionality in this UI.
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Hopefully HTC will encourage third party widgets and we can get lots of functionality in this UI.
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+ 1 for that, fingers crossed!
Was using manilla!!! Sucked for a while! When i moved to ms3..manilla got better and alsmost perfect in a sence!! Then i disliked some functions of ms3 and moved over titanium inteface that in the newer builds is fast, stable and fully custom! I liked it!Once i settled down..(as i thought!) now that !!... Man i cant wait!
htc bringin' the 'wow' effect to winmo devices ^^
The information out is conflicting: WMowerusers is saying Sense UI will come to WM Devices. IntoMobile is quoting MobileBurn, which says that it will NOT be coming to WM.
Hard to say for now.
We need a public press release from HTC.
Personally I won't believe until it it's out, hacked and available in cooked ROMs
Really looking for to this being ported, looks amazing!!
although until then i would like something to pass the time....
kostasalfa said:
titanium inteface that in the newer builds is fast, stable and fully custom!
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Has the titanium interface been ported to WM 6.1? I've tried searching with no luck!!
Can you link me possibly?
No,i flashed 6.5!!
ah right, i tried to flash 6.5 but it messed up my radio.. and i couldnt get any network!!
Thanks anyway....
Cant wait for this new UI!!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/windows-phone-7-series-hands-on-and-impressions/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/windows-phone-7-series-is-official-and-microsoft-is-playing-to/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_6GMBDG67M
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Would there be a port/nbh?
Sadly I don't think the diamond is powerful enough to run WM7, but surely someone will try to get it running. I may have to buy a new phone when WM7 comes out..
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Would there be a port/nbh?
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There is no specifications released yet. For what i've seen on webcast from MWC it's a complite rebuild of OS itself. So even if it will be posible it would be something like porting Android.
Diamond 3
I think the next gen Diamond will probably be able to run it
I believe that it is not a chance that diamond can run wm7. Even if it can run, the animation, transition, 3d will be extremely sluggish and crash everywhere. Sad. I think 6.5.3 is the end of the development for diamond. Time to buy new device everyone.
I won't get my hopes up, but it wouldn't be the first time the xda community surprised me? I remember the first wm 6.5 rom! SO CRAPPY!
I know MS has gotten better code more recently but the optimizations that took foot for sense 2.5, 2.1, and manilla 2.1 to even run are quite impressive!
love all the work here first of all got my diamond a longer live than would hope
i think it's impossible for Windows Phone 7 to run on android.
M$ has stated there are high minimum standards even for todays phones (think 1Ghz proc. 512mb ram min. maybe even dedicated GPU, high resolution screen, capacitive) all attributes the Diamond does not posses.
Not that impressed with WP7 for know but they have a 6 month period to refine and define it.
I would love to see an all out effort to get Andriod to the Diamond, dedicated from first boot and getting everything out of the Diamond.
I heard that WM7 need's a mac to run it.
Just watched the ms video on utube and I must say it looks owesome, but would it make htc sense redundent?
feelings on 7
it would make everything redundant, after looking at the vid, I am guess 1ghz processer minimum, no more sence, this is a new concept, and microsoft will never allow 3rd party interfaces again, they are pushing xbox live and bing, so to me it looks like it will be simply a ms money spinner and thats that. bet appz will only be available from there app store as well, just my feelings on it.
We might not see WM7 for our devices. We'll see a lot that looks like it though!
I think I can envisage similar UIs popping up everywhere.
The diamond does not have Capacitive multitouch screen with is required for Windows Phone 7 series. So, it will not work on the diamond.
WM7 is able to manage Capacitive multitouch screen. It doesn't mean that "NON Capacitive multitouch screen" is not allowed ... I think nobody knows today what is the final spec of WinMO 7
You're all wrong
wmpoweruser.com/?p=13395[/url]
This clearly shows a current 6.5 phone running Windows Mobile 7, and it even says it runs faster than 6.5 does. This means that it probably would run faster on devices that currently run 6.5, sorta like Vista vs. 7. Microsoft haven't released any minimum hardware specs yet, the only things they've said the device requires is a start, home and search button, and they said this for 6.5, and XDA managed to circumvent that .
I think someone in the community will get 7 to run on our old Diamonds, and it may not be as fast as the Leo or some newer phones, but who would expect it to? I think the 600mhzish processors in our devices shouldn't limit us that much.
Apparently WVGA is the minimum resolution required as well, so unless it can be ported then I doubt it
Well it could be a good thing if someone succeed into making a WM7 for our diamonds.
I think, the hard spec will be like HD2. But who knows, this OS may be the third life for the first diamond.
BTW, don't you think the design of the phone on the video is really like diamond design !?
let us just take the first iphone ... it had 400 mhz and just 128 mb ram ... i hope it's right i'm not definetly sure ... the ui on the vid was great ... no question , but the diamond ist so much faster than the first i phone the OS is the part which should use the cpu and gpu right ... i think 1000mhz on the HD2 are way too much ... iphone 3gs has 600 mhz now why the hd2 needs so much .. so i'm sure that wm7 can be ported, like sense, to the diamond.. and release after release it will be better
PS sorry for my english i know it's sometimes hard to understand, i'm german
This article <<HERE>> spells how the Diamond will be no where near compatible with windows mobile 7 in that the processor is too slow.
1 ghz minimum is pretty much an official fact based on the article attached as the HD mini that will be coming out at the end of this year will not even be compatible as these devices are slotted in to run 6.5 or some derivative (i.e. 6.6)
http://twitter.com/eldarmurtazin/status/8274606051
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This article [pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2359647,00. spells how the Diamond will be no where near compatible with windows mobile 7 in that the processor is too slow.
1 ghz minimum is pretty much an official fact based on the article attached as the HD mini that will be coming out at the end of this year will not even be compatible as these devices are slotted in to run 6.5 or some derivative (i.e. 6.6)
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"The HD Mini will presumably not be upgradeable to Windows Phone 7, as it doesn't have a fast enough processor. "
This is all presumption by pcmag.com, and it has nothing to do with actual information sent out by microsoft. Also, their desktop OSs have pretty high 'minimal specifications' yet hackers find ways to bypass these every time. The Diamond isn't even fast enough to hance 6.5, yet XDA got it to run. Any info microsoft puts out is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is if anyone on XDA gets it running and if it runs well.
Rather than be designed to run on a wide range of screen resolutions, form factors, and platforms, WP7 is designed to focus on a "class" of devices. Each class is defined by a set of hardware specs for a chassis.
There is a baseline set of Hardware components required, on top of which the chassis specs are applied. The base set of HW components are:
ARMv7 based applications processor (compare this to ARMv4 for WinMo 6.x)
Hardware accelerated DirectX and Direct3D (compositing is a big feature in WP7 and without HW accel won't run at an acceptable framerate)
Capacative multi-touch screen
Camera
Bluetooth + Wi-Fi
FM Radio
A-GPS
Accelerometer, compass, light, proximity sensor
Microsoft provides a set of built-in drivers for these components (1 driver for each component), to simplify the development process for the OEM. The OEM is not required to use these exact components but doing so means they don't have to spend time developing drivers for them (MSFT provides source and PDD bits) - so these are likely to be the components we find in first-generation WP7 devices. There is currently one main development platform and that is the QSD8x50 (snapdragon).
These components are in what's termed the "Silicon Catalog", and they are:
Accelerometer - Bosch - BMA 150
Compass - Yamaha - YAS529
Ambient Light Sensor - Capella - CM3612
Proximity Sensor - Capella - CM3612
Wi-Fi - Atheros - 6002
FM Radio - SiLabs - 4705
Digital Camera - Aptina - MT9P012 (5MP)
Capacative Touch Controller - Cypress Semiconductor - 301x series
The first chassis to be targeted for initial release is the "Performance Chassis" - adding on top of these base requirements a WVGA screen.
Other chassis will follow after the initial release - I would expect there to be a higher class/chassis added later. Currently we run 192 DPI for WVGA and the current WP7 build has support for 262 DPI (incomplete as of this writing) so we can more than likely expect to see larger "tablet" styled devices later.
So, is there any requirement for some kind of hardware scaler? When I first heard about it, I instantly thought "rubbish, snapdragon has enough graphics hardware".
Bump for visibility
posibility working possible in hd2 ?
EVO
So the HTC EVO that is on Sprint meets all of these requirements correct? ANd it is an HTC so theoretically if Someone cracks the HTC Rom soon they could dump Windows Phone 7 on the EVO?
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So the HTC EVO that is on Sprint meets all of these requirements correct? ANd it is an HTC so theoretically if Someone cracks the HTC Rom soon they could dump Windows Phone 7 on the EVO?
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Yes, the EVO meets the basic hardware requirements, but so does the HD2, and the HD2 runs Windows Mobile already, which I suspect makes it slightly easier.
I seriously doubt the EVO will see WP7.
How about porting it to the HTC Desire?
Lol. Love all these posts with people wanting it on their devices. Hey, I've an old brick phone from 1993 that has a b/w lcd display, couldn't you hack it to make it look like wp7....
(Sense the sarcasm)
I know people say that the HD2 meets requirements and that WP7 should run but was just wondering if anybody knows of any potential reasons why it wouldnt run WP7.
Im getting a HD2 in a couple of days so am just curious. tbh I dont really like the look of WP7, I think it looks annoying and ridiculous so far but would just like to flash and try it out for the fun of it.
@nexus one hope see it! wm7
Just for the buzz, little of topic : Some picture of WP7 device @ Microsoft France Paris : http://www.frogz.fr/WindowsPhone/post/2010/07/29/Fan-Day-Windows-Phone-7-Les-photos-!.aspx
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Yes, the EVO meets the basic hardware requirements, but so does the HD2, and the HD2 runs Windows Mobile already, which I suspect makes it slightly easier.
I seriously doubt the EVO will see WP7.
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I thought that WP7 was rebuilt from the ground up so it would be entirely different from WM6.5 and below?
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soooo......3 buttons where????
The HTC HD have MSM7201A ARM9 CPU, can run WinMo7?
hugomenezes said:
The HTC HD have MSM7201A ARM9 CPU, can run WinMo7?
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no
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fgghjjkll said:
I thought that WP7 was rebuilt from the ground up so it would be entirely different from WM6.5 and below?
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It is pretty much entirely different, but WM6.X BSPs do exist for the WM6 devices, which is a massive advantage.
TheATHEiST said:
I know people say that the HD2 meets requirements and that WP7 should run but was just wondering if anybody knows of any potential reasons why it wouldnt run WP7.
Im getting a HD2 in a couple of days so am just curious. tbh I dont really like the look of WP7, I think it looks annoying and ridiculous so far but would just like to flash and try it out for the fun of it.
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I've heard things from Not enough ram (T-mobile forums) to MS stating too many HW buttons "It has more than 3"
however I am not really buying into it as gsm arena shows multiple devices with less ram and rom storage with WP7 as the OS.
anthonyp37 said:
Lol. Love all these posts with people wanting it on their devices. Hey, I've an old brick phone from 1993 that has a b/w lcd display, couldn't you hack it to make it look like wp7....
(Sense the sarcasm)
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Are you talking about HTC sense
just kidding
anhyeuemmaimai said:
I've heard things from Not enough ram (T-mobile forums) to MS stating too many HW buttons "It has more than 3"
however I am not really buying into it as gsm arena shows multiple devices with less ram and rom storage with WP7 as the OS.
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Most comments during MSFT MiX event earlier this year were to the lack of a HW camera button, which is required to my understanding
Also the US HD2 not only has 1GB of ROM storage, but also 576 MB of RAM. there isn't a device I'm aware of on the market with more RAM
SN: HTC is releasing on Tmobile US the HTC HD7, unsurprisingly the phone has very similar internal specs. identical except 720p video capture. the device will employ different chassis design along with the MSFT specified buttons.
Signo371 said:
Lol. Love all these posts with people wanting it on their devices. Hey, I've an old brick phone from 1993 that has a b/w lcd display, couldn't you hack it to make it look like wp7....
(Sense the sarcasm)
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hahaha! dam now that was funny. caught me off guard reading that one
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Picture in WP7 Mondrian rom (showing blackstone with wp7 buttons)
a bit suspicious is that the accompanying specs that the tipster sent pocketnow differ from what we have seen references to.
Specifically:
Size: 116.7 x 58.7 x 11.9 mm
Display: 3.7" WVGA AMOLED capacitive touch screen
Camera: 8MP with auto focus with camera flash with High definition 720p video capture Internal memory: 16 GB flash, 512 MB RAM
Chipset: Qualcomm QSD8672, 1.5GHz
we're seeing references to a 4.3" display and a Qualcomm QSD8650A/B 1.3GHz CPU in the reg files of the rom.
Brandon Miniman (pocketnow.com)
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here are some of my own (fake) artworks:
The second is just the old Touch HD with the buttons changed.
(you can actually remove that pic)
The first is the real deal.
My belief is that these are fake.
Reasons are two-fold:
1. The black spacing is too big. HTC would not release a design with this flaw.
2. Whilst the user is able to, OEMs are forbidden to remove or even move the four main tiles.
The four Microsoft tiles (Phone, Contacts, SMS and Email) must not be moved from the top of the list in their pre-defined locations.
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From the WP7 customization document given to OEMs - here. I therefore doubt that HTC would release a mock-up design like this.
Casey
Ive herd that W7 will support multi-operating systems on one phone. any one else here that?
I have a feeling the keyboardless WP7 phones are all going to look boringly similar.
I have a feeling the OEMavatar is just an avatar of what you would see when you connected the phone to the computer, and synced to Zune. Something like that. Maybe its just used as an image throughout the system with no significance. However, the picture in question looks interesting. We all know that HTC has been advertising and shouting their name on the phones a little more [i.e. bigger logos on the back]. Now, as far as i know, i dont think theyve ever included the phones name on the back. notice, HTC "Mandrian", but then again, one cant help but wonder if HTC is going somewhere new with their phones. The dual flash looks a little suspicious as well. And the curvature of the chin is un-HTC like. Until we know more about the person who submitted the photo, its all speculation..
just my 2 cents.. :]
whatever it is HTC has in store, i'm quite confident it wont disappoint. Has anyone been disappointed with the specs/design of HTC's phones lately? i know i havent.
josh_prayyforplagues said:
one cant help but wonder if HTC is going somewhere new with their phones.
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Well, the phone on the picture is anything but new, it's the good old HTC Touch HD.
A Qualcomm QSD8672 chipset? That would be crazy so I doubt it. On the other hand, devices featuring the QSD8672 chipset are expected to be launched in the second half of this year, so the time frame is right.
For those not familiar with the Qualcomm QSD8672 chipset, let's just say that it is a beast of a chipset. It features a dual core 1.5 GHz Scorpion CPU, a pretty decent GPU and 1080p encoding and decoding. The GPU is comparable, if not better, than what OMAP4, Tegra 2 and Samsung's Hummingbird have. The CPU is faster than anything else on the market and the chip has other benefits in comparison to the other SoC on the market. All in all, a very good chipset to have as your baseline specification of your platform.
But as I said, I doubt that the first WP7 phones will all have a Qualcomm QSD8672 chipset. One can always dream though :.
Quite frankly I think both pictures are fake. The first released picture like everyone else is saying is just a Blackstone. The second one is fake, because HTC doesn't actually have the OEM Name on the actual device. My Tilt2/TouchPro2 doesn't say 'Rhodium' on the back of the device. I don't think you would see 'Mondrian' on the back of this device when it comes out either.
Just think it's too early to speculate.
So many people with no clue here^^
So it's basically the HD3?
Not like we didn't see this coming. What I would like to see is a US launch of the device before the end of the year (as opposed to the HD2, which wasn't launched in the US until March).
The 2nd picture isn't a 'fake' but it could be a dummy image for the purposes of testing.
However....not sure if it has any bearing on reality or if they've ripped the info from other sources but the Mondrian is now listed on GSM Arena with it's specs etc and the same 'blackstone style' image.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_mondrian-3338.php
With regards to seeing 'branding' etc on the device, personally I feel that a prototype device might have branding for use within the design department of HTC perhaps.
a bit suspicious is that the accompanying specs that the tipster sent pocketnow differ from what we have seen references to.
Specifically:
Size: 116.7 x 58.7 x 11.9 mm
Display: 3.7" WVGA AMOLED capacitive touch screen
Camera: 8MP with auto focus with camera flash with High definition 720p video capture Internal memory: 16 GB flash, 512 MB RAM
Chipset: Qualcomm QSD8672, 1.5GHz
we're seeing references to a 4.3" display and a Qualcomm QSD8650A/B 1.3GHz CPU in the reg files of the rom.
Brandon Miniman (pocketnow.com)
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The 1.5Ghz Specs are 100% fake. Why am I the only one questioning them?
"HTC HD3 by NAK ... My concept about the HTC HD3 ..."
http://nak-design.over-blog.fr/
http://nak-design.over-blog.fr/pages/HTC_HD3_by_NAK_-2727167.html
Mondrian Spec?
hxxp://product.pcpop.com/pk/276905_266752.html
Scroll down, it shows 1GB RAM and 1280x800 resolution??
philliphs said:
hxxp://product.pcpop.com/pk/276905_266752.html
Scroll down, it shows 1GB RAM and 1280x800 resolution??
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..err...it also shows the Aria (the android phone) as having MS Office Mobile....don't think so somehow! I would say that this is made up from various sources and they havn't checked them very well.
1.3 Ghz processor whoa thats gonna be fast!!
micro USB???
No card slot??
i dont need to read anything more just to know this is sooooo fake!!!
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micro USB???
No card slot??
i dont need to read anything more just to know this is sooooo fake!!!
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MS have stated that WP7 devices will not have SD card slots and will come in various capacities instead...like the iphone (6gb, 16gb, 32gb etc) and there will be no file system access so they might have done away with micro usb and have a new connector type seeing as the WP7 phones need to be sync'd via the Zune software (also similar to the iphone + itunes)
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MS have stated that WP7 devices will not have SD card slots and will come in various capacities instead...like the iphone (6gb, 16gb, 32gb etc) and there will be no file system access so they might have done away with micro usb and have a new connector type seeing as the WP7 phones need to be sync'd via the Zune software (also similar to the iphone + itunes)
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so microsoft's next phone is a lot like the iphone
there are a lot of similarities yes....but there are also a lot of differences between the iPhone and WP7.
The truth is that until the release (Dec 2010) we won't know the full details as a lot of functions will also be device specific. People seem to forget that MS set a MINIMUM specification but not a maximum one (obviously) but there are a number of RULEs that they are also enforcing such as the 'no removable SD card' rule and no custom UIs.