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HTC Polaris - new HTC Artemis!!!

HTC Polaris: a GPS-communicator with VGA
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The HTC roadmap published at CTIA Miami site contains the description of HTC Polaris. It is designed for GSM and WCDMA networks. Its design resembles that of HTC Artemis (P3300), however it has more powerful features: a VGA-display, large memory size, a 3-megapixel camera and so on.
The specs of HTC Polaris:
* Networks - GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, WCDMA/HSDPA 2100 MHz
* Operating system - Windows Mobile 6 Professional
* Chipset - Qualcomm MSM7200 (CPU 400 MHz)
* Display – 3.5” touchscreen VGA
* 128 MB RAM, 256 MB ROM
* MicroSD-slot
* Bluetooth, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g
* 3-megapixel camera with auto focus
* miniUSB, USB 1.1
* Digital compass
* GPS/AGPS
* FM-radio
This is the only device from the roadmap with the approximate release date (set for October 2007).
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/2007/June/22_eng.shtml#14509
WOW!

A faster CPU, VGA screen, and 3MP camera would be great!

Seems to be the perfect device.
Expect 3 things:
to big (3,5" Display)
No SDHC, and only MicroSD (should be SD compared to size)
No USB-Host

Display – 3.5” touchscreen VGA
if this also is true...... eat **** iphone

I think i've found my next phone come upgrade time.
please tell me it has a 3.5mm headphone socket and I will kiss you.

HTC get a deal to have opera installed and market this one well and it could piss all over iphone sales.
Imagine the adverts now;
iPhone.......Oh is that all it does

I already see the iPhone as inferior. First of all...who cares about Apple - thier main marketing tactic is not "look how you can use me" - it's " look how you look with me".
I think its a joke that their iPhone didn't come with built in GPS (look at the tear downs, there is spare room in that phone) (www.ifixit.com) nor is it a 3g phone. I think its rather insulting...only slightly less insulting than the idiots trying to sell them here in Europe when no known way to SIM unlock them exists.
Our phones are light years ahead in basic functionality.
*EDIT*
I stand corrected,
The iPhone can be unlocked....but it is still more hype than the price tag can justify...
http://nanocr.eu/2007/07/03/iphone-without-att/

The only thing I miss about my DXA 2i (HTC Alpine) is the big screen. The Orbit's features with the form factor of the Alpine gets my vote.

I think thats slightly unfair.
Iphone was marketted as being years ahead of it's competitors. Now that's just rubbish in terms of tech and functionality. However I think it's wrong not to give Apple it's dues in terms of interface, all it's pinching and finger sweeping is impressive, and it's no coincidence that we aim to emulate some of this from applications like Slide2Unlock and utilising Wisbar etc to emulate its GUI, to newer advances like HTC's Touchflo
Not only that but I do believe aesthetics are important. The iPhone does actually look good, now taste is a personal thing, but the iPod still manages to outsell much better MP3 players partly based on it's looks, partly it's simple interface, but mainly because iPod bother to market the thing. To me the release of the iPhone is important, not because it's a marvel of technology that deserves to be queued up for in the cold, but because it should give a kick up the arses to HTC et al about how this market should have been theirs by now, but they will watch the PDA/Phone market slip through their fingers unless they do something about it.
The Polaris looks a good step in the right direction, although it's still a bit ugly, but is anyone gonna queue up for it's release? It's the better phone compared to the iPod, but which will we see on the shelves of Phones 4 U and CPW.

This is going to become my next upgrade

Artemis has got a 2.8" Screen, will Polaris really have a 3,5" one???
Since it looks exactly like the artemis i cant believe this. If the display is larger the whole thing would be scaled up by 25%... I hope this is a typing mistake or something.
just made a image to compare sizes:
left is artemis (2.8'' screen), right is polaris (3.5'' screen)
What the iPhone is ahead is the multi-touch screen

If those stats are true, that phone is a beast.

pocketnow.com has a newer concept picture (obviously CG) that is intriguing. In this concept it is using a flush screen like the touch. With the ability to get closer to the edges of the phone it might be less bulky than the scaled picture above.
If that is the case it is going to be a hard choice between the Kaiser and the Polaris. Time will tell I guess.
http://pocketnow.com/html/portal/news/0000004318/NewsImage/POLARIS.jpg

wish list
if only the SIM/mSd slots were accesible from outside!
looking to Janetpanic provided pic from pocketnow, looking to the side of the device, it COULD have slots there
is it just wishfull thinking?

sirgawain123 said:
if only the SIM/mSd slots were accesible from outside!
looking to Janetpanic provided pic from pocketnow, looking to the side of the device, it COULD have slots there
is it just wishfull thinking?
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I don't think it is just wishful thinking, most of HTC's large devices have full sized SD card slots.

This device is definately an Iphone-killer - whoo-ha.
If the people at HTC would get touchflo better implemented...
(there are still "breaks" in the handling of the device where you have to take out the stylus and click on small buttons or use the d-pad...)
For instance you touch to the photos:
Once you open a photo you can´t scroll through all your pictures without using the d-pad - why?
But HTC seems to be on the way... hopefully Tochflo 2.0 solves this and some other issues...
Mic

I did like the look of the iphone at first, it did seem very well done, smooth. Like it all worked together. And with the OS at 700mb I should think so too.
However it has some major MAJOR flaws.
First, no 3G. Which for a phone ahead of its time its not even keeping up with the now.Then there is the lack of MMS. Yup, this future, super advanced phone cant do MMS.
Then the lack of 3rd Party apps. The killer of all. They tie you into a 2 year contract and you cant install your own apps. What about expense tracking? What about en eWallet and WHAT ABOUT GPS!
So apple are saying, their phone which is 5 years ahead of everything else cant do GPS and the other stuff my artemis can? Weird.
Yes the screen is nice and the multi touch too. But that doenst make it ahead of the rest.
If I could have tomtom on it I may be tempted to switch. But its a closed system. Its the reason MACs arnt mainstream and the Commodore Amiga died. Closed architecture is a death sentence to every thing. Closed architecture suits the old folk who just want something to do what it was designed to. I personally love the tweaking and making it do what I want it to.
Bring on the Polaris. Just needs WM7 and its sorted.

Looks like it'll be a super-beefed up artemis rather than a large version which is what I hoped for.

evaluator said:
Looks like it'll be a super-beefed up artemis rather than a large version which is what I hoped for.
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little (BIG) mistake, should be like this:

Is that a nicely done photoshop?

Tilt 2 (AT&T) Rhodium Review

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I had an Iphone 2g and was looking to upgrade. Immediate thoughts were to go to an Iphone 3g or 3gs, as I did really like my Iphone. As I started doing research though, My eyes kept landing on the HTC Tilt 2 with Windows Mobile 6.5. I've heard plenty of horrible things about previous versions of WinMo, but everything I had read about WinMo 6.5 slated it to be a pretty kick ass OS..
After having it for a couple of weeks, I can tell you, that there are alot of things I like, some things I don't, and a few that I can take or leave. For one, The phone does not really have much built in memory, but the use of an 8 gig or 16 gig micro SD card in the card slot alleviates that issue. The phone itself has 228 MB of storage memory and 188 MB of program memory. The touch screen is very easy to use, the zoom bar is a nice feature, but IMHO, the best thing on this phone is the slide out hardware keyboard. I never thought I'd need or want a phone with a hardware keyboard, but after using it for a couple of weeks to send multiple emails and numerous text messages, I am loving the hardware keyboard. I also really like how customizable WinMo is right out of the box, and how easy it is to flash new ROM's onto the phone. The iphone can do similar things, but it needs to be jailbroken in order to do so, which ALOT of people don't want to do...
Battery life on the Tilt 2 is not superb, but better than the Iphone was. I multitask all day, between facebook, twitter, emails and text messages, as well as actually using the device as a phone, and at the end of my 12 hour work day, I still have around 40% of battery life left, without ever plugging in the phone. On my old Iphone 2g, if I went about my day doing the same tasks, the battery would be dead by around 3pm, which left me with 3 hours to kill.. I always had a spare USB charging cord at work, so I could keep the phone plugged in during down times, to keep the battery charged. I don't have to do that with the Tilt 2.
The speaker on the Tilt 2 is 1000 times better than the one on the iphone 2g, and talking on the phone is crystal clear on speaker and with standard talking. This wasn't always the case with the Iphone.
The camera is also better than my 2g, but from what I gather, its the same on the 3g Iphone as it is on my tilt 2, so I would say it's not fair to compare cameras.. The Tilt2 has a 3.2 MP camera that does video out of the box, and the iphone has a 2 MP camera, that could not do video out of the box (my Iphone was jailbroken, however, and I used Cycorder to do video recording).
Overall, My initial impressions on the HTC Tilt2 are positive. I REALLY like this phone, and windows mobile 6.5 is very easy to operate. Below are a list of pros and cons to this phone for anyone looking for a new smartphone.
Pros:
Hardware keyboard is awesome
Display is crisp and clear on the screen
WinMo 6.5 is easy to navigate
Speaker on back is very clear
Internet loads quickly (Opera Mobile 10 is awesome)
Battery life is better than Iphone, but could still use improvement, IMHO
Customizing and modifying phone to suit you is easy to do
Cons:
Battery life could use SOME improvement
Phone itself is bigger/bulkier and heavier than others
Not much Memory on phone (Micro SD card will cure this though)
touch screen not as responsive as the Iphone
Overall, I am really happy with my decision to go with the HTC Tilt 2, as it is for personal and side business use, and it has suited both those needs very well.
As a side note, I wrote this review based on the stock ROM. I now have the "Energy Leo" ROM listed in my signature, and it's made me enjoy this phone a BUNCH more. Overall, I couldn't be happier with my decision to go from Iphone to Tilt 2.
Scott

Vote for Rhodium on my Sig!!

orb3000 said:
Vote for Rhodium on my Sig!!
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Already done my friend

Anyone interested in a review of the Tilt2 Rhodium?

Do we need to cancel our order???

Samsung 4", SUPER AMOLED, 1GHz Android Phone!
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I want SUPER AMOLED and 4" screen!!!!!
I guess, I will use HTC Desire for a while ... I cannot keep waiting and waiting for new device!
From Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-android-smartphone/

Would pick HTC over Samsung anyday..
Really is a shame - from seeing the pictures.. They're essentially copying the iPhone UI - with a little bit of Sense aswell..
Can't see myself wanting this at all - only when HTC release the Supersonic will i want something more than the HTC Desire.

Samsung also wants to get sued by Apple.
Seriously though, there are just so many ways to make a sensible user interface. I agree that the bottom four icons look strangely familiarly places, but they are probably exchangeable. Which the icons on iPhone are not, if I'm not mistaking?

Nah I want desire more then this one. I hate the touchwiz interfaces from samsung they never were good in my opinion. Also I really don''t like the look of most samsung devices. They look a bit cheap to me.

If u live in the US then cancel your order now!! Not because of the Samsung phone, but because of this!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/htc-evo-4g-is-sprints-android-powered-knight-in-superphone-armo/

like the HD2 4.3" is too big for a phone

Yeah it might look shiny and nice, but don't be fooled.. ;?D
Here's some reason I don't like it:
1. It's a Samsung. They have many great products in many categories, but phones? Nah.. "My" experience with samsung phones (Haven't own one, but friends and family have..) is that you shouldn't expect the best build quality and even if the UI has its pros, the cons will nag you.. Forever! ;?P
2. I think the UI looks a lot (a lot!) like the UI on the IPhone (They must have looked once or twice on the IPhone) with some "extra quirks". And frankly that isn't a good thing.
( - We need a new ui for our Android-phone. - HTC sense is sooo done! - Oh, I know!! Lets copy the [ridiculously] popular IPhone, that should be a good selling point..)
Aim for the Evo 4g instead (or settle with the Desire ;?D )

Just for fun.. tweetphoto.com/15554598

wankingweiner said:
If u live in the US then cancel your order now!! Not because of the Samsung phone, but because of this!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/htc-evo-4g-is-sprints-android-powered-knight-in-superphone-armo/
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Um...maybe if the handset was GSM. It is going to a CDMA carrier (Sprint). Hate to say it, but I think I will just wait it out for the Desire.
Here is a comparison of the 2
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/htc-evo-4g-vs-hd2-and-desire-fight/

The HTC Evo 4G is a beast of a device, but if you're not on sprint there's no point.
Also keep in mind that the Desire has more RAM (576 vs 512) and an AMOLED screen.
The Samsung is a sad excuse for a superphone, that filthy skin makes it look like a dumbphone OS. Not to mention you won't have the strong community support that HTC devices do.

chambo622 said:
The Samsung is a sad excuse for a superphone, that filthy skin makes it look like a dumbphone OS. Not to mention you won't have the strong community support that HTC devices do.
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Got to admit that the UI and even the one button in the middle of the phone looks awfully familiar. Can anyone say...iPhone

redrazr7791 said:
Got to admit that the UI and even the one button in the middle of the phone looks awfully familiar. Can anyone say...iPhone
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the icons were the 1st thing reminding me of the iphone

Galaxy S is a just another example of a great hardware ruined with the crap Samsung customization. I really like the huge Super AMOLED screen (actually it is amazing) + 1GHz CPU, but this pitiful copy of the iPhone's UI is simply disgusting, especially when the stock Android is excellent on itself. They simply shouldn't touch it.
And in addition, I still remember how Samsung abandoned their i7500 customers with refusing to release future OS updates for this handset. Personally, I'm going to stay away from Samsung's phones in the future.

After a long night and good sleep, I made up my mind
I will keep HTC Desire Because I cannot stand the Samsung Galaxy S iPhoneness look.
And I have a strong feeling that HTC is keeping a secret superphone with better specs.
Probably: 1.5GHz Snapdragon, 4+" AMOLED screen, 1080p HD recording, TV-out
Why? Because in June, there will be iPhone 4G announcement.
And HTC will use that secret superphone to out-done iPhone 4G.
At least, I will do that if I am HTC, I must have a strategy to stay on top. They don't need to rush another superphone, they have already quite some superphones ... our beloved HTC Desire. If this happen, it would be another 1 year to replace HTC Desire ... not bad eh? Now I am happy.
HTC Evo? Nah, CDMA is useless in Europe, at least in my country.

Agree with the first post.
Much talk about getting the next and the next and the next phone.
Even if you say:
"-Ill go for the new samsung" or whatever, there will always be
a new phone in the pipe-line with a better spec.
You'll be dead before even getting a phone that way.
Desire is a super nice phone.
Right size, and right look if you ask me.

Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed!

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Look what we've found! This is the first image you'll see anywhere of the early fruit of Microsoft and Nokia's budding new partnership. We have it on good authority that the technicolor phones on show are conceptual devices produced by the two companies. You shouldn't, therefore, go jumping to conclusions about retail hardware just yet, but hearts should be warmed by the familiarity of Nokia's new design -- the shape of these handsets is somewhere between its recent N8 and C7 Symbian devices and there is, as usual for Nokia, a choice of sprightly colors. The trio of keys adorning the new concept's bottom give away its Windows Phone 7 ties, but also remind us that the N8 and E7 are highly unlikely to receive any WP7 upgrade love. The best part about this whole discovery, however, might be that it confirms Steve Ballmer's assertion that the engineers of both companies have "spent a lot of time on this already."
Source: Endgadget - http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/exclusive-nokias-windows-phone-7-concept-revealed/
Damn this is exciting, isnt it...m sure things r about to go into top gear for WP7 n microsoft/nokia...while apple wil probably just end up whining about everything...wat say? as for these "microkia's", they r beautiful...i kno i want one...n i want one now!!! m sure most of u do.

They look awesome!
I hope they make something like these, I can see myself with the b;ack one and the wife with one of the pretty coloured ones!!!

exactly my thoughts...the black one looks quite 'orgasmic'...

How wrong I am, wife prefers the black one!

the black one rocks.... but mostly because the damned tiles aren't showing... anyone else notice this?

Just fu***** beautiful,i want the Black version

Saw these on engadget this morning, badass looking phones

I hope they bring back the old "Fascia" things they had on the 3310s etc and have multiple back covers available for you to buy in different colours and designs.

I want the black one but with black tiles!!!

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I want the black one but with black tiles!!!
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Black background and white tiles !!

Gorgeous. Lets hope they will produce them as we see them.

The problem is how long will it take Microkia to make it to market. They will be in trouble if they cannot make it before this holiday.

Gotta say... I think I see the phones of the future...

black one looking gr8....

Now I like this quite a bit, but it kinda looks like my Focus...

That was my thought. This looks almost like a Samsung Focus. At least the front of top are very close. The rear is tapered which I do like a little more.
Hopefully, we'll be seeing even more designs from Nokia (hardware keyboard hint, hint).

Hey guys, guess what, the concepts hav just been officialy shown at MWC by nokia...they r real, n possibly coming this year itself...
Nokia hints we'll see first Windows Phone 7 device this year!!!
Nokia may still sticking to the official line that it will begin shipping Windows Phone 7 devices in "significant volume" in 2012, but it just dropped a big hint at its Mobile World Congress press conference that we could be seeing the first device even sooner -- like this year. That word came from Nokia's Jo Harlow, who said that her boss would be "much happier" if the timing of the initial launch was in 2011. As you can see above, Nokia's also kindly confirmed that leaked Windows Phone 7 concept that we just got our hands on Friday, and it's shed yet more light on the behind the scenes intrigue that led up to the switch to Windows Phone 7. According to Stephen Elop, the "final decision" to go with Windows Phone "just happened on Thursday night of last week." Elop then later then expanded -- in response to a question audience about whether he was a trojan horse -- that the "entire management team" was involved in the process, and that "of course the board of directors of Nokia are the only ones that can make this significant of a decision about Nokia," which they made on Thursday night.
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/nokia-hints-well-see-first-windows-phone-7-device-this-year/

I read this article in the main Windows Phone 7 section and I have to say it is exciting news.
Not only are Nokia providing their expert knowledge in hardware which will only make WP7 better to use but they will also be combining Ovi Stores with Windows Market Place. This means the famous Ovi Maps with voice guidance and the ability to download maps to SD card for offline useage will be available as well as other applications which were bought out on Symbian.
Nokia has also divided the company now into two businesses. One for mobile phone development and the other for smart phones such as WP7, Symbian and Meego. Some people are saying this is because Nokia fear a takeover from Microsoft but it certainly looks like Nokia are taking no chances.

Nokia's First WM7 Device

Looks like Nokia's first Windows Phone has been leaked by the CEO no less. It looks a lot like the recently announced N9, but no word on what the internal specs are. It will have to blow the current generation of phones out of the water for me to give up the Super AMOLED screen on my Focus.

i didn't see any windows buttons. In the video he didn't actually turn it on.
Who knows

Full video can be found here:
http://www.technet.hu/telefon/20110624/exkluziv_video_elop_bemutatja_az_elso_windowsos_nokiat/

vetvito said:
i didn't see any windows buttons. In the video he didn't actually turn it on.
Who knows
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yeah the lack of front 3 buttons was what I was wondering about as well.

Hmm can't get the full video to load, but it's about time we get a peak of a Nokia WP7 phone. Can't wait!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1wC0pS_No
Here you go, enjoy

So does anyone know if this would work on Sprint if it had the same quadband CDMA radios as the meego version? Because I would buy this immediately, if that were the case.
PS - In the long version he turns it on, and another guy comes out and demoes it.

Thanks for the links.
Looking at this unreleased phone, and looking at the already released HTC sensation 4g. All I can say is, Microsoft is in deep ****.
Deep, deep, deep ****. SMFH.

Microsoft is in a very poor situation with regard to WP7, trying to push a new OS to a market which isn't exactly dying for one, needing hundreds of phones and friendly distribution, but the video doesn't make it any worse.

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Why were they still recording when he asked everyone to switch off their camera?

Should be more coming as well.

but the here's my question....will it have a FF camera? that's the only thing I want in my next windows phone and well mango too

That's.... kinda ugly at first glance.
I don't particularly enjoy the Nx designs. Sad to see them sticking with it for wp7.
ALTHOUGH I do like the boxiness aspect. I think rounded edges are old school, boxiness is a good thing design-wise.

sure haven't said:
I think rounded edges are old school, boxiness is a good thing design-wise.
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Or, you could say that rounded phones are a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Pulling a square-edged, boxy phone out of my pocket can be a real pain, but a phone that has nice rounded corners is not a problem at all.
And personally, boxy = ugly to me.

RoboDad said:
Or, you could say that rounded phones are a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Pulling a square-edged, boxy phone out of my pocket can be a real pain, but a phone that has nice rounded corners is not a problem at all.
And personally, boxy = ugly to me.
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Hmm never thought of it that way. Would never have thought of that as I've never owned one without rounded edges.

sumdumdude said:
Looks like Nokia's first Windows Phone has been leaked by the CEO no less. It looks a lot like the recently announced N9, but no word on what the internal specs are. It will have to blow the current generation of phones out of the water for me to give up the Super AMOLED screen on my Focus.
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I like it. I like the N9 and think this model would make a good WP7 device.

vetvito said:
Thanks for the links.
Looking at this unreleased phone, and looking at the already released HTC sensation 4g. All I can say is, Microsoft is in deep ****.
Deep, deep, deep ****. SMFH.
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Yeah, the Sensation is aptly named. I would love to have one. But I can't see anything wrong with this WP7 Nokia device. Imagine it in some other colors.

SteveChou said:
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Those on screen buttons are nasty looking, I can see myself now always accidentally hitting them trying to play a game or something. plz bring something else Nokia, because that is not what I want at all

havox22 said:
Those on screen buttons are nasty looking, I can see myself now always accidentally hitting them trying to play a game or something. plz bring something else Nokia, because that is not what I want at all
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Since they are on-screen buttons, they can be minimized or disappear altogether during a game or open app. This would completely eliminate the accidental press of these buttons.