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I just got a ****ing huge bill for GPRS usage. According to 02, I have used 33986kb on GPRS last month. This has cost be £80 extra on the bill.
According to a few posts I read last month on this forum (which is complete bul****) 02 do not charge for GPRS.
Someone claimed to be working for 02 and said 02 does not charge, I mean, what the **** was that all about.
Anyone else in the same situation right now? I am already broke, this is gonna get me into serious debt now.
I mean.. WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!
80 GBP and you cry?
c'mon, you've gotta be kidding me. If thats your problem, lol
I just got a bill for 1600 euros and I couldnt care less
life's a *****, deal with it
i work for my money you ignorant prat!
Put your money where your mouth is and take that "paypal" button off of your website..
My 2 cents (the only ones you're ever gonna get)
They haven't charged for GPRS usage so far, but it's not exactly surprising that they'd make an exception for someone who uses such a high amount of data. Obviously if you're sensible and don't go too far over your allowance it's not going to be charged, but if you flaunt the system you're going to raise some flags.
The bottom line is if you aren't prepared to pay for your GPRS usage, then don't use it. If you do use it and you don't get charged it makes a nice bonus, but you can't expect something for free and then complain when it's not.
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i work for my money you ignorant prat!
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haha, so do I
'serious debt'
80 GBP
lmfao
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Put your money where your mouth is and take that "paypal" button off of your website..
My 2 cents (the only ones you're ever gonna get)
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ah yes and you have developed a website and spent countless hours on it too I guess?
I just think it is extremely funny someone can cry like a friggin baby over a 80 GBP bill
I am a student, I work weekends and have a limited budget yet I find time and money, which I spent out of my own pocket to help people. I dont want to get rich of it and I wont, since everyone has the same freeloading attitude like you do, but I dont want to spend truckloads on money either when the site is gonna attract more traffic
what did you do to help others btw?
lmao
If you think you can get something totally free in this world you must be from a different world... this is planet earth and we have something called Multi national companies who are greedy!
Come on... O2 giving GPRS for free... yes, they did have a promo, but you have to be responsible for your own actions... check it out with O2 first - phone them or check out their website.
If your money is worth so much to you should be responsible when you spend it.
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£80 is over a weeks work to me as I have to work for free in a solicitors and study atop my normal job and would be crippling debt. It would take me a month to pay that off.
Anyway, as far as I was aware, we established on here that it was free, but if you go overboard 02 would clock on, and that they could choose to bill you for the lot if they want. So think yourself lucky they only charged you one months usage!
I only use about 2.5mb a month maximumand they haven't billed me yet. How did you use all that anyway? Your phone has WiFi, and in any town you're never more than 20 meters away from an unlocked network!
well i have heard of one guy getting charged for gprs but he was streaming radio and video. i think he got hit hard £300+
im on o2 and it has been a relief so far (touch wood) that i haven't been charged.
i would prefer for o2 to charge but at a fair rate, or even offer a package where for x amount you get y.
Let me get this right, you took the word of the people on here but you never checked with O2. You then proceeded to hammer your account because you thought you were getting something for nothing. It reminds me of a guy I saw in one of those "Eat all you can for a fiver" cafes, the fat bastard gorged himself like a pig at a trough and then said to his buddy "that ****ing food gave me indigestion". You have to pay the piper my friend.
Good luck to those who have not been charged (yet), but don't complain if you get a bill - if you use it you should pay for it!
I pay for my GPRS as an addition to my normal tarriff & it pains me a little to see some people getting it for free, but I suppose if I knew I could get it for free, I wouldn't be too quick to sign up to pay for it
O2 (UK) do offer a reasonable GPRS package - I pay £14.50 + VAT (=£17.04) for my O2 Data36 bolt-on to my monthly contract. It gives me 36Mb/month (more than enough for my needs) and extra data is £0.85 +VAT (=£1.00) per Mb. You'll find these tariffs under the business sections rather than the persoanl tariffs.
I know T-Mobile & Orange have similarly structured GPRS bolt-ons - prices & amounts of data vary etc, but the concept is the same.
I do think the providers are missing out by not offering a lower entry price e.g. £6 for 10Mb or similar.
I also use the same 02 bolt on package.
There is something strange in that i havent yet been charged for any over mb that I knew I had gone over And their computer is registering I am using it and logging the times , but it shows no data actually used.
sounds like a fault with their computers, but I am sure this will be fixed.
I made the mistake of using the internet on my old P800 in America. BIG phonebill.
TBH, as I said earlier, I puposely bought a phone with wifi so that I only only have to use GPRS as a last option. Seriously, ANYWHERE I have ever been, I have never had to walk more than 40 metres to get WiFi connection to the internet. Some other poor sod can pay for my usage
I was with O2 until July. I roam a lot and used the Internet a lot. I was never charged. Not even the minimum daily GPRS roaming charge listed on their website. I was lucky.
I think it may be down to your account provider. Even though the bill comes from O2, O2 has a number of account providers such as Carphone Warehouse or Tesco Mobile.
I originally signed up with BT Cellnet and my provider was Securicor Mobile.
I am not sure how account providers work but it is just a thought.
Hi
O2 were giving me free GPRS when it first went on line and it seems to still be free, though there was a period they were charging me and my bills were high, especailly for GPRS usage on my 3 and half month round the world tour when i roamed!
When we take a contract out for anything these days it is our repsonsibility to check that it suits us and if not, change. Occasionally O2 may not lead the providers with the best offers but like everything it swings in roundabouts and at the moment they seem to have good deals and popular.
Have to say that there XDA website support and updates are a bit thin.
I am with O2 and have been for 6 years without changing provider.
I was made an O2 'Select' customer which i believe they are no longer registering new customers as. This means that you are one of their top 200,000 users... did not think i would qualify.
They give me special offers like answering customer service calls 'IMMEDIATELY' and no queuing, free itemised billing, 60% discount off mobiles and accessories, new handsets before everyone else, and recently i swung a free XDA2i out of them that should have been £180.
From everyones comments above seems like our mate noddy with the £80 bill is the only one who can't manage his money! :lol:
drjrao
So erm...
how much data does msn messenger use then ?
:S
any idea how i could work out my costs on it :s ??
My Daft sister!
My dear sister uses T-Mobile. She decided that now she had broadband, she'd download Nortan Antivirus etc. She was so worried about connecting her laptop to the internet without this software, she decided that it would be more secure connecting to the internet via her GPRS enabled mobile phone to down load it! Anyway, £350 worth of GPRS later, the file still would not download all the way through. The phone account was locked out when it hit the £350 limit. T-mobile, once they'd stopped laughing were very sympathetic and agreed that she could repay them in installment over several month. She has incoming calls only and has had the GPRS disabled!
im very sorry for her, but that story is just hilarious
In preparation for the upcoming release of the I-Phone O2UK are rolling out an upgrade to the network and are adding EDGE. OK, it is not 3G but it is better than what we have right now!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/14/o2_edge/
What speed is Edge? I see a reference to an unlimited data tariff on that Register article anyone have any further news on that? I am just considering leaving O2 due to their poor data tariff offerings.
Edge is about 3 times quicker than GPRS. 3G is mostly about 4 times faster than GPRS.
I've been on the O2 Simplicity Tarrif for a couple of months but I got really feed up when my £15 bill ended up totalling £35 after a couple of weekends away data usage.
I'm off back to T-Mobile and if they (o2) release a unlimited data tarrif then I'll be back but I've a funny feeling that any unlimited data tarrif will be limited to Iphone users.
For four Slots Edge can (in theory) go upto 236
I'm thinking of going with 3 but I have to research their tarriffs and coverage. I'm told they have the best deal going for data currently (less than a tenner amonth for unlimited 3g connection). Shame the Orbit don't support 3g
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Shame the Orbit don't support 3g
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Which was the whole point about my first post on this thread.
Does the Orbit support edge then?
Would we ever know that we were connected by edge, is there a diferent icon we would see?
You know the little square with the 'G' on it when GPRS is available? Well if EDGE is available you get a little square with an 'E' on it.
I have noticed this over the past week, that I sometimes come upon an Edge enabled area.
Hmmmm, I'm nearly jealous.
But are O2 actually going to do something with their tariffs, so you can actually afford to use this new speed?
out of interest if you use the mms number to browse the net do you get charged? as it doesn't come out of your 1mb free browsing...
i've noticed mms uses 'my work network' which has the '02 active' connection...
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out of interest if you use the mms number to browse the net do you get charged? as it doesn't come out of your 1mb free browsing...
i've noticed mms uses 'my work network' which has the '02 active' connection...
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It is charged by the minute as a dial-up connection (except for MMS which is free for incomings)
Well since I'm due an upgrade and O2 have sent me a canvassing letter I thought I'd phone them about their upcoming data packages. The lady told me that they were due to roll-out an unlimited data tariff on the 1st of October. I couldn't get any more than that out of her, no pricing info etc. It's only a fortnight away so I told her I'd wait until the 1st then phone back.
I did ask if there were any future plans for 3g or if they were sticking to edge but I don't think she understood the question: "I think they will just stick with what they have got"
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In preparation for the upcoming release of the I-Phone O2UK are rolling out an upgrade to the network and are adding EDGE. OK, it is not 3G but it is better than what we have right now!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/14/o2_edge/
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Iphone will be available in the UK from the 9th November, at the Moment O2 are building up there Broadcasting towers to try and keep up with the Demand, at this moment there only 30% fully running.
There will be no iPhone with 3G capabilities yet,
The iPhone is a peice of **** anyway. It does nothing that the majority of HTC devices can already do or be made to do, but without being locked down to what Apple thinks the customer should be allowed to have.
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You know the little square with the 'G' on it when GPRS is available? Well if EDGE is available you get a little square with an 'E' on it.
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Yeah I get this at Home in Northampton but as soon as I travel out I do not get this
...reading between the lines.....
The new iphone tariff on o2 which matches my current tariff is £45 - compared to the £35 I pay, but offers unlimited (ish) GPRS....
Using my powers of deduction I guess this will probably mean the unlimited browsing option (web'n'walk equivalent) will be £10.
If they charge any more than this there will be uproar!!!
(wonder if they will let me reduce to a lower tariff so I don't have to pay £45 a month?
Does GPRS use an awful lot less battery power than wifi too I guess?
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The iPhone is a peice of **** anyway. It does nothing that the majority of HTC devices can already do or be made to do, but without being locked down to what Apple thinks the customer should be allowed to have.
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thats funny.......at lasy someone has the balls to say what everyone else is thinking.
" A revolutionary IPOD" - yeah - but its still only 8gb ***RIP OFF****
Keep the artemis - buy an ipod classis instead!!!
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thats funny.......at lasy someone has the balls to say what everyone else is thinking.
" A revolutionary IPOD" - yeah - but its still only 8gb ***RIP OFF****
Keep the artemis - buy an ipod classis instead!!!
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ok i am laughing here a little, the iPhone will be a 16gb when its released, the 8gb has been scrapped, the Edge is 3 times faster than normal GPRS plus there are some new features available.
you could say i ran a few hundred of em though my hands
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ok i am laughing here a little, the iPhone will be a 16gb when its released, the 8gb has been scrapped, the Edge is 3 times faster than normal GPRS plus there are some new features available.
you could say i ran a few hundred of em though my hands
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The iphone is 8gb not 16gb (the ipod touch will be 16GB) according to O2 and CPW.......or is Steve Jobs telling little lies?
Orange UK seem to be doing what they are best at.
Every time I speak to someone from Orange (once a week for the last 6 weeks) to find out if the Touch Pro 2 has been released I get a different answer.
Back on the 26th May I spoke to someone who had a look and said that the phone was still on the "coming soon" list. He had a look else where and found that the phone was listed to be first released as a SBC (Small Business Customer) phone and then a little later for none business users. He had no date but said it should be early to mid June.
Yesterday I was told there is still no date, but it should be released mid to late June. The guy at orange started to explain how to go about through a 3rd party to get the upgrade but then I lost my signal. I rang back and was then told that the phone would definatly not be out with in the next 4 weeks.
Today I rang up and was told that there is no date listed, but the phone is still just "coming soon". I said about the person from yesturday, but the lady has no idea why I was told a definate no for the next 4 weeks as it could come out tomorrow, 2 weeks, 4 weeks or not at all. I also asked about the phone first being available to business customers and was told that there is no mention about the phone being a business phone and the release would be wide spread across the whole of orange UK. The lady has also put me on a ring back service, will check daily to see if the phone had been released and let me know if it has... While I have no reason to dis-believe this, I dont hold much hope.
I have rang around, but cant find a phone dealer that can do an upgrade for me with the Touch Pro 2
Little to say, I am getting a bit tired of all the different answers I get.
When I got my Tytn 2 from orange it was only listed as a business phone and I think the Touch Pro 2 will probably be the same way
Does any one here have any more information or shed any light on the release of the phone as an orange branded handset, be it for business or none business use.
Firstly I'll say that their ring-back service worked for me. This was back when the TyTN2 was released. They sent me a text on the day it became available telling me to call them, which I did instantly. The next day I had the phone in my hands. So have some faith.
However, the wait may be long, or short.
I used to be on Orange (having been a VERY loyal, high spending customer) for many years, but I have since become very cheesed off with their outdated tariffs and delays bringing phones to the market.
I have now switched to Vodafone, and while I don't get anywhere near as good signal strength, they provide a decent enough service for me.
I am sad I had to move away from orange, but it's too little too late.
See, I like Orange's service and the service plan I am on is very good value for money and they consider me somewhat of a 'loyal customer'.
I am in exactly the same boat as you, I've been speaking to different people and it's gone from 'within 2 weeks' (this was mid may I was told this) to the phone not being listed on the system, to the Diamond2 being released?
It seems the HD is out of stock and I had been told that it was being discontinued and replaced by another handset. Some reps have told me that it was Touch Pro2 and some have told me they do not know.
I've just been emailing Orange (they have this irritating habit where you hit the reply button and a different person replies) all of them told me it was only going to be released on Business, but like another person in this thread I also have a TyTn II on a personal account.
This morning the Touch HD was taken off the website! So I'm going to keep playing it from the angle of 'What phone is going to replace the HD on the personal account' and 'I want a Windows Mobile phone with a keyboard because I can't stand purely touch screen phones!
I really really want to keep my contract and just get an Orange branded Pro2
Just spoke to them on the phone about the HD disappearing off the website. Apparently they're looking at replacing it with the Touch Diamond2 and when I said does that have a keyboard? He said no it doesn't but the Touch Pro2 does (in a hesistant voice).
I went on to ask whether that would be available for me to upgrade to as a personal user and he said yes it should be, but there is no indication of price yet as it's too early on.
I'm sure the next person I speak too, will tell me otherwise...
The Orange tariffs seem to suit me quite well... There might be a better tariff for me somewhere, but at the moment my monthly bill only usually differs pennies each month and i can really hammer the phone some months.
When I asked about the upgrade price about a month I go I was told that I would probably get the phone for free being that I am a long time loyal high value none business customer (have been on one of the top tariffs now for 6 or 7 years).
Infact when I got the tytn2 (which was only available for business customers at the time), Orange actually credited my account with £100 for me to stay and take the the phone off their hands.
I guess only time will tell with the rhodium
I just wish that Orange would be a bit quicker at releasing new phones.
Out of interest, I wonder if Orange list the rhodium as having an inbuilt GPS receiver. Orange seem to insist that the rhodium does not have a GPS, although it does have an FM radio :S Come to think about it, they also insisted that the tytn2 didnt have a GPS either when I upgraded to that
I got another response today from someone that seemed a bit more human.
Hello
Thank you for your email into the Orange shop.
I have checked the website and we have 2 HTC phones on sale.
We have the HTC Touch 3G and the HTC Touch Diamond(tm)
http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/all
We also have the HTC Touch Pro 2 in review at the moment. Fingers crossed
this one will make the cut as it's a brilliant phone.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro2/overview.html
Hope this helps
Sarah
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I'm reckoning I might get it for free, although I haven't been as long term as you with Orange, I just want them to list it as coming soon! It's driving me mad, I can be so impatient with stuff like this sometimes haha.
For orange France it's not planned yet...
I wait because I want to by it with mobile contract at less price than unbranded...
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I just want them to list it as coming soon! It's driving me mad, I can be so impatient with stuff like this sometimes haha.
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Yup +1 that.... Orange are in danger of loosing out if they wait much longer- Hmm Xperia X2 anyone?
I've had our company phones with Orange for over 10 years, but have just switched to Vodafone. We save around £500 per month (20 Touch Pro and Pro 2 all free), have all data included in the plan plus managed services with antivirus, firewall etc and the cuistomer service people I speak with are much more responsive than Orange. No problems with connectivity. The choice of handset and talk / data plans is far better than Orange and in the 3 months we've been with Vodafone I have experienced no probs whatsoever.
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I've had our company phones with Orange for over 10 years, but have just switched to Vodafone. We save around £500 per month (20 Touch Pro and Pro 2 all free), have all data included in the plan plus managed services with antivirus, firewall etc and the cuistomer service people I speak with are much more responsive than Orange. No problems with connectivity. The choice of handset and talk / data plans is far better than Orange and in the 3 months we've been with Vodafone I have experienced no probs whatsoever.
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See, I've been provided a fabulous service with Orange. My price plan is very cheap and I get a lot for my money. I'm on the £8 a month internet bundle which apparently is limited to 500mb or whatever but I usually use over a gig a month and never get charged.
I'm going to wait it out, I just up hope some new information crops up in the next week. They'd be able to release it if Orange didn't bog down the phone with so much crap!
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Orange UK seem to be doing what they are best at.
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Not helpful sorry, but if its any consolation, I am getting the same run around from o2. Least with Orange, they have to keep releasing the 'business' class devices. o2 (I think) are going to limit the new devices to push people towards the iphone (sorry for swearing) or blackberry. Neither of which I personally want.
I just spoke with Orange business Sales
They say it should be available to first for Business Sales than Upgrades,
It will be available after the end of the 19th of July
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They say it should be available to first for Business Sales than Upgrades,
It will be available after the end of the 19th of July
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What's your source, what's your source!?
Was that meant to say 'then' rather than 'than'? I'm really hoping that you mean will be available for new contracts after the 19th of July as apposed to starting the release then...
Orange have updated their coming soon page on the consumer site.... no sign of TP2 yet
However I've been diligently checking the page for the past few months (I know, i know...) and updates seem to take place around 14-16th of each month.
Hoping that this darn phone turns up soon.
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Orange have updated their coming soon page on the consumer site.... no sign of TP2 yet
However I've been diligently checking the page for the past few months (I know, i know...) and updates seem to take place around 14-16th of each month.
Hoping that this darn phone turns up soon.
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Haha, I've been doing this too. I may as well have it as my homepage.. They have definitely updated the Coming Soon list at least twice this month (including today) so I don't think your theory is entirely true.
Come on Orange! My contract expires this week!
Just spoken with Orange and the phone is currently in testing and it there will only be limited number handset to start off with for Business Account holders .
Imagine Orange are fecking up software as we speak
Orange is busy with the Iphone 3GS in pre-ordering and nothing for the TP2...
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Orange is busy with the Iphone 3GS in pre-ordering and nothing for the TP2...
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They're releasing the iPhone 3Gs? I didn't know O2 weren't keeping it exclusively anymore.
Orange updated their coming soon list! No TP2 though
Just got off the phone with Orange.
Apparently it's 'limited stock' at the moment and that the update on their server today said that they were in testing mode. If it pasts tests then it will be given to business customers in limited stock, then if it is popular they'll release it to personal customers.
What was interesting, was that he said if an Orange shop stocks the phone, they might be a to give to you on a personal contract as 'they have more leeway than the telesales'.
Sigh, the wait carries on...
ORANGE now sell the TP2
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...1=Phone&pagename=Business&t=SMEDeviceFeatures
Orange mad a big song and dance about being the first UK carrier to announce that they will be getting the HTC Desire. However, since them T-Mobile have beaten them to the release and now it looks like Vodafone will be next to get the handset out, judging by official release dates. (Before anyone mentions it I am well aware that it is available on Orange through Carphone Whorehouse and other online retailers. It's just that I want to know when Orange themselves are getting it).
I've heard rumours that Orange may be going for a 2nd April release, but nothing definite.
Does anyone know a definite date when Orange UK is going to get the handset? When I call them I am still getting operatives who don't even know that the thing exists, and others are still referring to it as the HTC Bravo! When I do get through to someone who knows about the Desire they just say "It wil appear on the website when we get it".
And you can bet that when it does appear on their website it already be out of stock.
Impatient? Me?!? Never!
I don't know an official date but just to let you know T-Mobile had a deal with HTC to get the phone out first.
They probably tried for an exclusivity deal (like with the G1, hero) but got rejected and got an (albeit quite short) timed exclusive deal.
Which is the reason why officially t-mobile themselves are stocking it before anyone else (I am aware you can get an unlocked handset with the contract ontop from places like mobiles.co.uk, carphonewarehouse).
It must have been a pretty late change of name.
My T-mobile supplied phone says HTC Bravo on the box!
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It must have been a pretty late change of name.
My T-mobile supplied phone says HTC Bravo on the box!
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They say HTC Desire on the box (where it matters).
The HTC Bravo sticker on the back is something which HTC has slapped on, internally they must be still calling it by it's codename.
It's been the HTC Desire for months.
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Orange mad a big song and dance about being the first UK carrier to announce that they will be getting the HTC Desire. However, since them T-Mobile have beaten them to the release and now it looks like Vodafone will be next to get the handset out, judging by official release dates. (Before anyone mentions it I am well aware that it is available on Orange through Carphone Whorehouse and other online retailers. It's just that I want to know when Orange themselves are getting it).
I've heard rumours that Orange may be going for a 2nd April release, but nothing definite.
Does anyone know a definite date when Orange UK is going to get the handset? When I call them I am still getting operatives who don't even know that the thing exists, and others are still referring to it as the HTC Bravo! When I do get through to someone who knows about the Desire they just say "It wil appear on the website when we get it".
And you can bet that when it does appear on their website it already be out of stock.
Impatient? Me?!? Never!
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I'm in the same boat - be interested to see what they offer you on upgrade. Phoned today and they said it should be out soon, but then said it's not available to upgrade customers until a few weeks later
They are so full of *beep* it's unreal. I think I might actually get my PAC code and go with Vodafone. If you see the other thread that I created T-Mob customers have had some cracking upgrade deals. Whereas Orange are still contemplating charging me for the phone. So in short the wait may not be for much longer, but it may not be worth it to stay with Orange...
If it is a Pay As You Go option you are looking for, some Carphone Warehouses still have stock (unlocked but with an Orange SIM).
As I mentioned in another thread, this is how I got my hands on one and I'm on an O2 contract.
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I'm in the same boat - be interested to see what they offer you on upgrade. Phoned today and they said it should be out soon, but then said it's not available to upgrade customers until a few weeks later
They are so full of *beep* it's unreal. I think I might actually get my PAC code and go with Vodafone. If you see the other thread that I created T-Mob customers have had some cracking upgrade deals. Whereas Orange are still contemplating charging me for the phone. So in short the wait may not be for much longer, but it may not be worth it to stay with Orange...
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Their operatives really haven't got a clue what's going on. When I spoke to them a couple of days ago I was told it would be available to upgrade customers at the same time as new customers! I had this exact same issue when I upgraded to the Diamond - it really depends who you speak to. Sometimes you'll get someone who's really clued up and will fall over themselves to help you, othertimes you get put through to someone who would appear to be the most unhelpful person on the planet.
The more I think about it, the more I'm tempted to jump to T-Mobile. I can get exactly the same deal that I am currently on with Orange (600mins, unlimited texts, "unlimited" mobile internet) for £30 per month, with the handset costing £60, directly from the T-Mobile website. So (and this is addressed to fuzzmo) if Orange say that they want £100 for the handset, tell them to go forth and multiply!
The other benefit of switching to T-Mobile is their rather tasty 3Gb "fair use" policy (compared to Oranges paltry 500Mb) for mobile internet on Android phones.
Oh, I'm going to have so much fun with Orange once they get the phone!
I've ordered my upgrade from buymobilephones yesterday. Switched from Racoon 30 to Racoon 25 and added 500mb of internet for £5. Phone cost me 69.99 which is a bit of a rip off now I think back but I suppose its not a huge deal.
Did say they had no idea when they'd actually have it in stock though. "Could be next week, could me in a months time"
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The more I think about it, the more I'm tempted to jump to T-Mobile. I can get exactly the same deal that I am currently on with Orange (600mins, unlimited texts, "unlimited" mobile internet) for £30 per month, with the handset costing £60, directly from the T-Mobile website. So (and this is addressed to fuzzmo) if Orange say that they want £100 for the handset, tell them to go forth and multiply!
The other benefit of switching to T-Mobile is their rather tasty 3Gb "fair use" policy (compared to Oranges paltry 500Mb) for mobile internet on Android phones.
Oh, I'm going to have so much fun with Orange once they get the phone!
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Just to let you know, if you like Orange (their coverage, orange Wednesdays etc) it's an excellent time to now go for T-Mobile. On T-Mobile you can get some excellent deals with a barrowful of minutes and texts AND a 3GB internet FUP policy. In around 2 months time they'll be merging with orange and while your plan will stay the same you'll be able to enjoy benefits like <insert whatever the new network's name is here> Wednesdays and the combined strength of Orange & T-Mobiles network coverage
Probably around the same time as O2
Teppic24 said:
The more I think about it, the more I'm tempted to jump to T-Mobile. I can get exactly the same deal that I am currently on with Orange (600mins, unlimited texts, "unlimited" mobile internet) for £30 per month, with the handset costing £60, directly from the T-Mobile website. So (and this is addressed to fuzzmo) if Orange say that they want £100 for the handset, tell them to go forth and multiply!
The other benefit of switching to T-Mobile is their rather tasty 3Gb "fair use" policy (compared to Oranges paltry 500Mb) for mobile internet on Android phones.
Oh, I'm going to have so much fun with Orange once they get the phone!
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Yup I am really thinking about it as they appear to treat their upgrade customers with much more respect and they certainly do give you a great Internet bundle. I am gonna tell them to go forth and multiply as they are just like Nationwides adverts - 'New Customers only'. Why they don't give a *beep* about their current high spending customers lord only knows....
My only concern with T-Mobile is their network coverage which leads me to....
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Just to let you know, if you like Orange (their coverage, orange Wednesdays etc) it's an excellent time to now go for T-Mobile. On T-Mobile you can get some excellent deals with a barrowful of minutes and texts AND a 3GB internet FUP policy. In around 2 months time they'll be merging with orange and while your plan will stay the same you'll be able to enjoy benefits like <insert whatever the new network's name is here> Wednesdays and the combined strength of Orange & T-Mobiles network coverage
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Is this confirmed? Is it true that they will be using Orange masts etc. and also bringing in 'Orange' Wednesdays?.... If so (although the latter isn't important - coverage is) then that is a deal clincher for me...
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Is this confirmed? Is it true that they will be using Orange masts etc. and also bringing in 'Orange' Wednesdays?.... If so (although the latter isn't important - coverage is) then that is a deal clincher for me...
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Orange wednesdays isn't confirmed but they will be 1 network after the merger, not 2 and it;s been given the goahead by the EU and will be done in the next few months so it stands to reason they will use each other's current masts and have better coverage.
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Orange wednesdays isn't confirmed but they will be 1 network after the merger, not 2 and it;s been given the goahead by the EU and will be done in the next few months so it stands to reason they will use each other's current masts and have better coverage.
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[topic=off]I wonder what they'll call the combined network? T'orange? A good northern name. [/topic]
The deal is confirmed
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/...miX+(cellular-news)&utm_content=Google+Reader
As for the name I thought Tangerine using the T-Mobile font in White on an orange background thus combining both.
placed order on Tuesday, the guy said would be released thursday so should get friday, today he emailed to say there was a delay and he`ll let me know when i will receive... are they just loading there bloat ware on it?
a number of places in UK has the device and is selling, why are the service providers like t-mob, orange etc struggling?
Got unbranded on t-mobile from mobiles.co.uk for 31/month. Delivered next day. There are other third parties doing the same. You could just cancel and do that?
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T-Mobile staff don't seem to know much. Was told 11th and 15th as release dates, was given incorrect specs. ..just gonna wait and see
Did you order the LTE version and what colour? Also, what deal did you manage to get from them?
I was under the impression that they'll be released on the 15th of this month
I got a deal of £31 per mth, £40 for handset, 300 mins x network, unlimited calls to t-mob, 1.5gb download, 3gb bt openzone wifi. 24 mths.
prob not best deal, easpecially on mins and txts, but to be honest i dont use much, i just want the latest phones.
I would imagine (hope) that t-mob would only sell the LTE version as they are the ones pioneering 4G? will keep an eye out though, if can get a better deal will do so.. (limited to networks i can use as 02 doesnt work where i live and am waiting on a three sim to try there network.)
t3rm3y said:
I got a deal of £31 per mth, £40 for handset, 300 mins x network, unlimited calls to t-mob, 1.5gb download, 3gb bt openzone wifi. 24 mths.
prob not best deal, easpecially on mins and txts, but to be honest i dont use much, i just want the latest phones.
I would imagine (hope) that t-mob would only sell the LTE version as they are the ones pioneering 4G? will keep an eye out though, if can get a better deal will do so.. (limited to networks i can use as 02 doesnt work where i live and am waiting on a three sim to try there network.)
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I have 2 lines one of which is always with unltd calls so something like this would suit me just fine for the 2nd line. As i said i was under the impression that they'll be releasing this phone on the 15th...I just had another look on their website and the deal you got isn't mentioned BUT the only version they have IS the LTE one. So if or when you do get it, update us please? I think a lot of people like me are holding off on this phone waiting for the LTE 4G ready version.
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I have 2 lines one of which is always with unltd calls so something like this would suit me just fine for the 2nd line. As i said i was under the impression that they'll be releasing this phone on the 15th...I just had another look on their website and the deal you got isn't mentioned BUT the only version they have IS the LTE one. So if or when you do get it, update us please? I think a lot of people like me are holding off on this phone waiting for the LTE 4G ready version.
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Its peculiar they released a non lte version in the UK. Arguably it's cheap and not in the interest of the customer, the main focus of any good supplier. That's something Apple and Samsung have in common - the smell of their own farts in their nostrils. The latter at least makes phones rather than toys.
Some might argue they don't mind having no lte chip but it's a stretch to say they're better off and it's Samsung's fault. They might release new models every 6 months but in your mind how long should a £500+ phone function as an admirable device? If lte was brand new then it would be excusable but its been obvious for a while what a future proof device for the UK would need although only recently was it known roughly when. If they do release a sim free version of the 7105 (they better do) AND it has all the UK present(nearly) and future bands of lte but they price it at £700 then their behaviour is acceptable but their prices criminal.
This my opinion, and it leads me into your camp. Maybe I'm just jealous my desires don't allow me to be the first to own this device like the hundreds of happy customers on here. Samsung are training me to be a patient and sensible consumer, not a good idea.
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Its peculiar they released a non lte version in the UK. Arguably it's cheap and not in the interest of the customer, the main focus of any good supplier. That's something Apple and Samsung have in common - the smell of their own farts in their nostrils. The latter at least makes phones rather than toys.
Some might argue they don't mind having no lte chip but it's a stretch to say they're better off and it's Samsung's fault. They might release new models every 6 months but in your mind how long should a £500+ phone function as an admirable device? If lte was brand new then it would be excusable but its been obvious for a while what a future proof device for the UK would need although only recently was it known roughly when. If they do release a sim free version of the 7105 (they better do) AND it has all the UK present(nearly) and future bands of lte but they price it at £700 then their behaviour is acceptable but their prices criminal.
This my opinion, and it leads me into your camp. Maybe I'm just jealous my desires don't allow me to be the first to own this device like the hundreds of happy customers on here. Samsung are training me to be a patient and sensible consumer, not a good idea.
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I agree and would add that not releasing a 32 or 64gb version is just a ploy to make more money later on. Forcing people on to the 16gb NON-LTE version is just a dirty business tactic. And before anyone says 'oh but they probably couldn't have them ready in time' Lets not forget that Samsung are one of the biggest memory manufacturers in the world (if not the biggest?). So would have been a piece of cake to swap out the internal memory.
And about being jealous lol. I was dead set on getting the S3 when that was released but waited for my upgrade to be due. Then i heard rumours of this beast and decided to wait. I watched the presentation live and thought THIS is my next phone. I recently tried it out in the shops and it's....BIG....in a good way? i think lol. Reading people's views on here i think i'll get used to it...Now do i wait for the LTE version of this, get the LTE version of the S3 or wait a month more for the Nexus phones to be released? Argh I hate having to make this decision.
We share the dilemma, except I've written off the s3 my missus has one and although very good its just an inferior note 2 with screen size a preference consideration.
I'll be getting the note 2, either lte or not, depending on the price differential (£518 the cheapest so far). I know the new nexus will probably be excellent but I don't have to let that serve to make this device look worse.
I'm disappointing with Samsung, I'll say again they've lost customer focus at the crucial marketing and sales level. Its all about profit and market share. They should treat their customers less like Apple does, as mindless sheep who'll believe, and do, anything to be told their sexy. And more like children who need protecting from their ignorance. That's not an insult or even pessimism, it's a rationalisation of the fact mobile phone hardware is a boring subject to most people. If they released both models at the same time and it was made clear then fine. But giving one choice caused confusion, its not like called it:
"Galaxy Note II (No LTE)"
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+1 to that ^^^ I think the technique is designed to spread sales and I will not buy until at least the 32GB is available - 16GB is just too small considering you can't install apps (easily) on the external SD. However, sammy is sure to loose "some" customers if they leave it too long as newer phones are released and, if they leave it a really long time, the rumours of the SGNIII start to build tempting others (including myself) to wait for that and/or another "super phone". Still, it's only 2 weeks so far since release, give them a chance, but if we get to 4-6 months for decent internal SD size I might have found an alternative device (you never know, as this is a new "hot" format). Personally I reckon they'd have been better off releasing all sizes at launch - I'd have jumped straight onto the (likely much more expensive) 64GB but now if the 32GB comes out before the 64GB I'll get that (likely at a lower price) and will not upgrade to a 64GB when that is released - so they will loose money from me. They "may" of course drop the price of the 16GB when the higher sizes are released but, based on the SGIII, I think that is unlikely.
LTE doesn't really bother me that much, 4G will be a couple of years before it is common place (and I live way out in the countryside 3G is pretty poor here still!) - I'll be upgrading by then and, for some reason, I never sell my old phones - usually de-sim them and give them to the kids as games machines
Waiting impatiently...........
Lol I've got all my old phones too (except a few stolen ones) even though I always keep em pristine for resale value.
Haha
The lack of storage sizes is foolishly annoying, I understand it for the s3 the majority of people who bought one wouldn't give it a second thought. But the note 2 is a different market, with much more media entertainment focused purposes.
As you say its early days and its my own impatience that has me frustrated.
Talking about alternatives, I like the look of padphone 2.
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When 32 and 64 come out I will sell my 16 wont loose that much and to have the 16 in my hand makes me smile enough for now
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Where will you sell it?
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Im literally on hold with tmobile now, going to enquire about the Note II LTE.
Im not too fussed if it is 16GB as it has the SD card capability right??
Waiting still
I've got one more month. Hopefully next year some time this phones contract price will reduce a bit. If I upgrade it will still be £30 on T mobile. Managed to get my last phone on £17 / month for 2 years (yeah right)! I took off the answer phone service which knocked off £5 / month from the the original price. Considering that at the time I was charged for calling the answer phone as well as a fiver a month I thought no thanks so saved quite a bit. Then came the 20% VAT hike and Tmobile upping the price of the contract to compensate. So I now pay a little over £21 per month.
I might have to get one a little later than I expected to.
Yep called them too. The usual clueless replies. 15th is all they know as the release date. ..they think.
I'll wait until CPW get them. Their prices can be better and their customer service strong.
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I'll wait until CPW get them. Their prices can be better and their customer service strong.
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Where are you based in the world?
i went into a cpw in essex and they had them in stock and ready to ship - that was probably 2+ weeks ago. i had a look at the phone (which wwasnt on / battery want in it) he could do it on orange, t-mob and one other, poss 02 but not sure..
only reason i was waiting on t-mobile direct is i have a ok offer to stay with them.
though a quick look onlien shows some web only comanies offering the note 2 for £32 per mth - 300 mins, 1.5gig data with t-mob.
+£50 cash back) just a bit weary of using online companies, as can imagine if there was a problem t-mob would say go to the web company, and web company would say talk to t-mob..
are the ones on mobiles.co.uk etc not LTE? is the difference between LTE and non LTE only 4g? as i live in the middle of nowhere LTE will not affect me so might as well get a non LTE, though i feel it should be cheaper then the LTE version...
Went into tmob shop in UK today - none on display - so I asked about it - the sales person looked at me blankly and said "we only have the note I" so I tried another one, who THB wasn't interested in speaking to me at all, "nah, not heard anything about the note II release yet, it's not out" I directed him to the 3 store opposite with a SGNII sitting in the window - "oh, yeah, we'll we will be getting it, just not sure when" I gave up at that point. 3 were very helpful and, spent a lot of time going through things with me and it turns out, for a mere £69 I get a SNGII 16GB (3G) for £36 per month with unlimited Internet and unlimited tethering included (plus pretty much infinite call time and texts - more than I would use anyway). 4G - honestly they said wont realistically be working everywhere for at least a year, probably longer but they will be getting the SGNII on 4G when they feel 4G is reliable enough. Oh and the sales rep thought that 3 had no plans to tie the handset to the network.
TBH at 3s deal I'd be saving £15 a month from my current contracts - only shame is..............no 32/64GB yet! - no store I visited had any news on 32/64GB one and all only stocked the 16GB SGNI version too. I might have to give in and get 16GB and root.
Tmobs current price plan is for 3G even for the LTE model and info sheets in store said there will be an upgrade charge to 4G and a new contract will have to be signed.
When will these stores realise customer service is important - I'd have gone with tmob because their coverage is better even tho they are slightly more expensive but not now!
Re-looked at ip5 - !!! Why did I ever even consider it - it was funny, the ip5 stands in all shops were deserted, the Sony and Samsung ones were packed - how things change lol
t-mobile do seem like utter rubbish - when you consider o2 has priority moments, orange has things like orange wednesdays and on panther you can watch stuff like sport and tv etc without using your data allowance. Three does the completely unlimited thing, vodafone has yoda as a mascot - what does t-mobile offer?
i got an email today saying finally has it in stock. plan was changed slightly - £27 per mth, but £80 for handset, i couldnt be bothered to argue or search - i wouldnt get a better mthly plan elsewhere (600 mins, 500 txts, 1.5gb data)
plus if i delayed any longer a new handset would arrive that i would want instead i.e. the padfone 2..?
so i should get my LTE SGN2 on monday, if the delivery drive can find my work place..