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Manilla2d trinity resources hog?

Hi, everyone on the forum, I was wondering if you were having trouble making manilly2d work smoothly on your trinities. My trinity becomes relatively sluggish and free memory drops pretty soon. When trying to use gps software it locks, freezes etc. Same with Opera browser.
How are your Trinities handling great looking manilla2d?

Use one of the ROMs with Manila2D cooked into. Its far better than installing it afterwards.

chalid said:
Use one of the ROMs with Manila2D cooked into. Its far better than installing it afterwards.
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I Confirm!!!!

I was wondering if we could get Manilla running faster converting Manila2D.exe (1MB) or its dlls into module...

mosec said:
Hi, everyone on the forum, I was wondering if you were having trouble making manilly2d work smoothly on your trinities. My trinity becomes relatively sluggish and free memory drops pretty soon. When trying to use gps software it locks, freezes etc. Same with Opera browser.
How are your Trinities handling great looking manilla2d?
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ROMS with Manila cooked in work only slightly slower, not enough to bother me at all. I think it all depends on what 3rd party software you then install on top.
The trick is either finding a Manila ROM which more or less everything you need it already (like Ervius's ROMS) or naked ROMS which have only the minimum (like Chalid's ROMS).
Also, I recommend using Mpenguin14's "M2DC (Manilla 2D Customizer)" to get rid of the Manila tabs at that the bottom that you don't really need. This reduces memory consumption and therefore improves performance. Some cooks are putting it into their ROMS, but there is a cab you can download too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427392
Mattster.

Thanks for all the advice I allready noticed beter performance with album and audio player tab turned off but nevertheless it seems slower.

mosec said:
Thanks for all the advice I allready noticed beter performance with album and audio player tab turned off but nevertheless it seems slower.
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I gave up on manilla and htc home. The clock can be replaced by PDC, weather by spb weather(there's probably a lighter solution though), app launcher by the start menu(people usually don't use a wide variety of apps, start menu can list the latest which will do just fine), sms/mms/calendar/tasks by the respective native plugins.
All the other apps are cute but useless, like, you already have a speed dial on the phone app, as for media just launch the respective apps.

manilla on trinity
Hi, I am happily running chalid's rom with Manilla2d - meaning that it runs correctly but can become quite slow (for example, A2DP skips if i keep wifi or other programs in the background). The problem, in my opinion, is not Manilla but...our trinity. The low amount of RAM makes any program which is consuming memory running slowly and/or lacking responsiveness. Try Igo8, for example, and plan a long route...this is true beyond manilla, and the less memory you have free, the more sluggish it becomes...
I came to the empirical conclusion that TNYYNT Roms are faster simply since he is keeping memory consumption/allocation low, and this is why Chalid's 0.8 is faster than any other manilla2d i've tried. For example, i was not able to run tomtom efficiently on ervius' rom - but it ALMOST works correctly with chalid's (which is based on TNYYNT as you know).
My conclusion: upgrade to touch HD ! it is the obvious way to improve the trinity: better screen, better CPU, better RAM....

lately i been using PDAviet ROM .44 and the manila user interface is relly fast and pleasant to use - the only think that I'm craving for is more RAM in the device
All is well if one application is running but have a few open and the sistem will complain
One thing that I see with this ROM is that if you start a memory intensive application - like opera 9 or your tube or tom tom it will close the ManilaUI temporarly and restart it automatically when you close the application so everything runs fast - but only one thing at the time

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Chalid's 0.8 is faster than any other manilla2d i've tried. For example, i was not able to run tomtom efficiently on ervius' rom - but it ALMOST works correctly with chalid's (which is based on TNYYNT as you know).
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Hi Pzucchel.
Thanks for your advice the other day on sd cards.
I have a new Kingston 4GB Micro SD (SDHC) Card coming tomorrow and going to reinstall Tomtom 6 onto it. Then I have to pick a ROM! I love the Manila 2D interface, have tried practically all of the current ROMS, but I can't have Tomtom letting me down.
When you say Tomtom ALMOST works on Chalid's, what happened? Did it come out of the program half way through a journey?
And on Ervius' Rom... were you not even able to start Tomtom?
Mattster.

I switched back to a non manilla2d rom and my trinity is flying again! Windows are opening fast and overall performance is better, igo 8 works without crashing. Manilla looks great but I'm gonna hold back for now! Bye all

64M Ram a problem, but here is a work around
pzucchel has raised the main issue- it's not the code, the ROM the M2D or iGO8. Our Trinity is only 64M RAM, and with operating system, if we have 25-27M free RAM we are lucky. Running M2D will normally eat up 10M or so more. With careful memory management it will not slow down our phone. however it will not allow to have M2D as a today plug-in and run iGO8...
Having M2D in the cooked ROM helps a bit as far as speed (not significant) but will not help in memory management. So that was the *****ing part of the post. now let's have a work around. It is not a solution- yet it will allow us to enjoy M2D and iGO8 without getting crazy, and without a need to reset the phone 7 times a day...
1. Install a naked ROM. Look for ones that allow 25M free RAM after installation. There are few of them. If they are naked+M2D and leave 20M free, it is good enough. Having M2D in the ROM means no M2D updates possible. Having M2D installed manually means lots of work and a bit slower performance- each one knows what's best for himself.
2. install SKTOOLS 4.4.1 (Buy it! it worth the investment). Optimize to maximum memory. Our good old trinity works fast enough even with this setup. Also- turn shadow services on to free RAM. Don't mess up with anything else there. We are after more free RAM ONLY !
3. Install mToday. It's a small nifty free tool, that allows the user to switch easy between today plug-ins. Set M2D on one screen, and iGO8 on the 2nd one. Assign a key for mToday so by a push of a button you can switch M2D off and get iGO8 plug in on... For the lazy ones I am attaching it.
4. Make sure the following lines are in your sys.txt in the IGO8 folder. I mean the one in main memory under program files, not the SD folder, although for recovery purposes, make them both identical:
[debug]
cache=2048
reserve_memory=1500000
[navigation]
sim_speed_factor=3
True- it still will not allow using TTS , but that is kind of pushing the limits of the phone. I could use TTS if I turn the phone off, kill 3G and GPRS, push no mail, etc. but after all if I wanted a GPS device only, I could have bought one..
5. For TomTom users- same thing - kill M2D using mToday and keep running it. I did not try TT7 but TT6 was very much an easy run on the trinity, before I moved to iGO8.
Special thanks to the cookers, current and the ones who left this forum, for their dedication, time spent for this community, and insight. I am merely a tester, and I hope this post will make some other trinity users happy campers.
Cheers
BigE

I had no problems running the WWE evirus rom with M2D and Tomtom7

Mattster_spv said:
Hi Pzucchel.
Thanks for your advice the other day on sd cards.
I have a new Kingston 4GB Micro SD (SDHC) Card coming tomorrow and going to reinstall Tomtom 6 onto it. Then I have to pick a ROM! I love the Manila 2D interface, have tried practically all of the current ROMS, but I can't have Tomtom letting me down.
When you say Tomtom ALMOST works on Chalid's, what happened? Did it come out of the program half way through a journey?
And on Ervius' Rom... were you not even able to start Tomtom?
Mattster.
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I have no problem running tomtom7 and igo8 with chalid's 0.8rom.
but before i run igo, i have to close all running apps first.
like bigE mentioned, invest in SKTools. It's a great utility. I have its "free ram" apps as one of my shortcut. i always run it bfore i run any gps apps.

iGO8 and M2D- is it really running together?
rockuman_ex,
Yes, iGO may seem to work with while M2D is on, but, is it really? Here are some observations:
1. Choose to calculate a 1,000 mile away destination when they both are on - even with SKTOOLS I am running out of memory for iGO.
2. Have them both run, and try answering a call at the same time. Even with 1.5M reserved for 'non iGO' use in the sys.txt - most likely phone will freeze.
I have no experience with TT7. I have abandoned TT for iGO because I am travelling to destinations I could not have maps for TT in the TT6 era. I have got spolied by iGO and can't go back to TT, although I have to admit TT is making more sense for the trinity. But like all of us- I want it all...
I regretfully think that in the near future I will go with another HTC phone, waiting for AT&T to offer the HD here in the US. I have spent around $700 for the trini about 18 months ago, no realizing 64M will kill me so quick. Oh well- that is what we call experience, learning from mistakes...

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rockuman_ex,
I regretfully think that in the near future I will go with another HTC phone, waiting for AT&T to offer the HD here in the US. I have spent around $700 for the trini about 18 months ago, no realizing 64M will kill me so quick....
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I'd say these days, 18 months with one phone is pretty good

T-mobile wm 6.5 memory usage.

Hey everyone.
Earlier today I switched to T-mobiles windows mobile 6.5 rom.
And since then I noticed my used memory slowly went up as I used programs and closed then.
On 6.1 (t-mobile rom) after start up I was at 56% which after a few days of use maybe went up to 60-65% tops.
On 6.5 I start with the same number, however as I use programs and close them, only a part of the used memory seems to clear up.
Right now after using 7 different programs, which I used to use on 6.1 I'm at 74% memory in use.
I've tried the memory cleaner from the rhodium software thread, which does free up some memory, 74% to 71%. However this just seems wrong in my eyes.
So does anyone have a explanation?

Prozzeh said:
Hey everyone.
Earlier today I switched to T-mobiles windows mobile 6.5 rom.
And since then I noticed my used memory slowly went up as I used programs and closed then.
On 6.1 (t-mobile rom) after start up I was at 56% which after a few days of use maybe went up to 60-65% tops.
On 6.5 I start with the same number, however as I use programs and close them, only a part of the used memory seems to clear up.
Right now after using 7 different programs, which I used to use on 6.1 I'm at 74% memory in use.
I've tried the memory cleaner from the rhodium software thread, which does free up some memory, 74% to 71%. However this just seems wrong in my eyes.
So does anyone have a explanation?
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Where did you get a T-Mobile version of WM6.5? Is that the generic HTC-released WM6.5?

The one released by T-mobile, found here.
http://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/htdocs/page/service-contact/software-updates/mda.aspx
It's their official 6.5 release.

so its for T-Mobile Neatherlands & not T-Mobile US. I'm thinking that's what MCbrian thought you had

The explanation is pretty simple
6.5 eats a lot more memory than 6.1
If you are not satisfied with the RAM eating 6.5 go back to 6.1
Or try disable manila or titanium and you´ll get more free RAM

Prozzeh said:
The one released by T-mobile, found here.
http://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/htdocs/page/service-contact/software-updates/mda.aspx
It's their official 6.5 release.
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xnifex said:
so its for T-Mobile Neatherlands & not T-Mobile US. I'm thinking that's what MCbrian thought you had
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Yes, that's what I thought...though I know that TmoUSA is just the poor cousin of Euro-Tmo
It is helpful when posters list their location and carrier in their profile/ID...but that's a personal choice.

You mean Microsoft have released software that hogs as much resource as possible ?
That's got to be a first.

So judging from what Orb3000 and dik23 said, It's perfectly normal for WM6.5 to display more memory used as more programs are used and shut down, while in the same situation 6.1 clears out the memory just fine.
Yeah, sorry, I just don't buy that at all.
Does anyone else have similar issues regarding this?
I mean this looks like some sort of memory leak to me.

Surely a memory leak would result in more and more RAM being used without opening any new application. I think you could mean bad memory management ie the OS not removing closed processes from the RAM when they're finished with. And this would only become a problem if new applications failed to start because of that.
What I was saying it's well known Microsoft like to program operating systems that like to hog as much processor time / RAM / storage space / whatever they can get. Stupid way of doing things me thinks

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What I was saying it's well known Microsoft like to program operating systems that like to hog as much processor time / RAM / storage space / whatever they can get. Stupid way of doing things me thinks
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Seems like general Microsoft-bashing is more appropriate on an iPhone or BB board.
This wasn't helpful information at all because it doesn't explain why the OP is having more memory issues than others using same/similar OS, e.g., me.

from what i've gathered from other threads & whatnot, 6.5 has the Push Internet feature on, & it takes up 10MB+ of memory, while TmoUS has it disabled. With the Push Internet enabled, it also has Opera Mobile running in the background at all times eating up more memory.
Right?

MCbrian said:
Seems like general Microsoft-bashing is more appropriate on an iPhone or BB board.
This wasn't helpful information at all because it doesn't explain why the OP is having more memory issues than others using same/similar OS, e.g., me.
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Sorry mate but it happens to be the truth. And you've not heard my iPhone bashing !
Does the lack of RAM cause any real problems apart from confusion ? I mean are you actually running out of RAM when trying to do anything ? I had a Hermes that ran out all the time and it's very annoying when the phone rings and the SatNav app dies.
If it's not actually causing any issue then ignore it. Otherwise you could get an app to clean the RAM out (like should be done by the OS). I think SKTools is a good example but it means that you have a process running and apparently some clever man decided 32 was the maximum number of processes you're allowed.

dik23 said:
Does the lack of RAM cause any real problems apart from confusion ? I mean are you actually running out of RAM when trying to do anything ? I had a Hermes that ran out all the time and it's very annoying when the phone rings and the SatNav app dies.
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Yes, I haven't gotten any real issues so far, but for instance, the youtube player refused to play movies because of the lack of memory
(It's hovering between 82-84% memory used right now, after running basically every application, which as I'll repeat once again, did not happen in 6.1)
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Otherwise you could get an app to clean the RAM out
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As stated in the opening post, I already did that.
Seeing as no one here has any concrete answers or solutions, I'll contact T-mobile and HTC tomorrow and report back here.

Good luck !

orb3000 said:
The explanation is pretty simple
6.5 eats a lot more memory than 6.1
If you are not satisfied with the RAM eating 6.5 go back to 6.1
Or try disable manila or titanium and you´ll get more free RAM
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Hello MCbrian
I read your reply on WM6.5 using up more memory than WM6.1
Wanted to know how I can switch back to WM6.1 or is there a way to control memory usage in 6.5
Nilesh

Prozzeh said:
Hey everyone.
Earlier today I switched to T-mobiles windows mobile 6.5 rom.
And since then I noticed my used memory slowly went up as I used programs and closed then.
On 6.1 (t-mobile rom) after start up I was at 56% which after a few days of use maybe went up to 60-65% tops.
On 6.5 I start with the same number, however as I use programs and close them, only a part of the used memory seems to clear up.
Right now after using 7 different programs, which I used to use on 6.1 I'm at 74% memory in use.
I've tried the memory cleaner from the rhodium software thread, which does free up some memory, 74% to 71%. However this just seems wrong in my eyes.
So does anyone have a explanation?
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Hey Prozzeh, I am facing the same problem. Did you manage to find out the solution. What you done after that.

Hey, just out of interest can anyone here give an indication of 6.5.1 RAM usage ?
I saw an advert for Windows7 whilst in town the other day. It said "Windows7 - Time to get a new PC". Yeah, because my old one won't be able to run it ! Says it all.

dik23 said:
Hey, just out of interest can anyone here give an indication of 6.5.1 RAM usage ?
I saw an advert for Windows7 whilst in town the other day. It said "Windows7 - Time to get a new PC". Yeah, because my old one won't be able to run it ! Says it all.
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And I thought the marketing droids got drunk after they came up with ideas! Whoops!

http://i37.tinypic.com/wv7uqq.jpg
lol

RAM usage (question)

Hi, can anyone explain the reasons why a ROMs RAM usage is high?
For example, the ROM I am currently using is up at 90%. After a reboot its around 75% and it doesnt take long to get up to 90%. If I use free RAM on level 1 it tells me "No change". If I use level 2 then it ruins touch flow 3d and I need to reboot.
I only need more RAM to run applications, but my idea is that regardless of the applications installed, if none are running then the RAM usage shouldnt be that high.. ? For example, you could install loads of stuff on your windows XP machine, but RAM only gets used when you load the applications right... ?
I have run task manager, and in the order of most RAM usage here are the things running currently at 92% RAM
gwes.exe 24394 kb
cprog.exe 7920 kb
device.exe 3658 kb
manilla.exe 3553 kb
shell32.exe 2705 kb
services.exe 2686 kb
filesys.exe 2289 kb
dotTaskMgr.exe 97 kb
connmgr.exe 96 kb
tmail.exe 45 kb
SAPSettings.exe 1 kb
NK.EXE 1 kb
total 47445 kb (or almost 50mb of RAM)
Now, I know that manilla consumes WAY more ram than titanium. But I prefer manilla!
Does any ROM cookers give me a brief understanding of why certain ROMS use more RAM than others?
I've even gone as far as changing the theme but to be honest I dont think it made any difference..
I am a complete N00b but I like to read and use google so if people can give me some direction I will go away and do some research!
Thanks!

BUMP...

Can anyone show me the light?

WinMo 6.5 is also more RAM-hungry than 6.1.

which Page Pool does ur ROM have?
i think it is set to 0 !
change it to 12 or 16
WBR
Siemens Lover

Hi Guys!! Thanks for both your replies. So I googled about the page pool as I had heard this mentioned before. It's a little like virtual memory on PC's right?
So I used the page pool changer to tell me what my rom has as it's pagepool and from what I can tell, I have 8mb.. Do you agree? I've attached a screenshot.

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WinMo 6.5 is also more RAM-hungry than 6.1.
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Yea I understand! Do you know why it gradually increases the ram usage up to over 90% though?

try with changing pagepool (8mb-12mb)

there are many ways to get more free ram... easier is pagepool but if you lower pp you will loose rom speed so it's not the best choice... other things have to be done by the cooker not the rom user.
Obviously if you use manila+phonecanvas+wm6.5 you will have a high memory usage rom...
edit: between if you want a good program to free the max of ram, use the one i made in my signature.. but you will have to configure it for your apps

benko286 said:
try with changing pagepool (8mb-12mb)
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Thanks Benko!! I will try and see how it goes

makeveral said:
there are many ways to get more free ram... easier is pagepool but if you lower pp you will loose rom speed so it's not the best choice... other things have to be done by the cooker not the rom user.
Obviously if you use manila+phonecanvas+wm6.5 you will have a high memory usage rom...
edit: between if you want a good program to free the max of ram, use the one i made in my signature.. but you will have to configure it for your apps
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I don't mind taking ROMs apart and playing with things. I would like to learn how to cook
Thanks for the App.

Defiantly agree with the OP.
I had NRG's Rom installed, and I'll say he manila and titanium on his ROM is mega fast. Every animation is so fluent, so much eye kandy and hi-res icons...
Was perfect...
Till I started to actually use programs that couldn't even start. I was on mainila looking at photos, and hit 'album' but cant open the album. can't use the camera.couldn't play games or anything..
currently on Benkos full ROM, is a little buggy, animations aren't so fluid but usally are fine however am pleased i can actually use programs.
I could NOT use manila but same as OP, I prefer it.. I'm keen on the later versions which have colour icons on the slider etc... Not so keen on titanium but i prefer everything else on 6.5. I'm wondering if I really need to use 6.5 as it does use a whole lot more RAM than 6.1

Think about it... what are the real differences between WM 6.1 and 6.5? Do you really need the 6.5 start menu? Titanium? WM Slide to unlock?
The problem about the WM6.5 is the graphics and windows event service (gwes). It consumes to much RAM. Phones with 128MB RAM are made to run WM6.1
Try this ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565243&highlight=akeo
It is stable, fast, a lot of free RAM and very clean. And if you still need more RAM, just try to disable TF3D and tachi phone canvas. You are going to get 38% used RAM after boot. I installed IphoneToday 1.2.5 (very lightweight and fast) and S2U2. After boot I still get ~40% of used RAM (~70MB free RAM).

I'm pretty sure I need WM6.5... After using 6.1 for a whole year and getting frustrated at the little things, like looking through phone contacts, dragging the list up a tiny bit and then the phone automatically scrolling all through my 200 contacts to the bottom.. then if I tried to go back, I would end up right back at the start. WM6.5 fixes all the things that either I hated, didnt work in 6.1 or both.
I'm learning how to cook now so I can just build a ROM that I'll use for myself.

WM6.5 isn't really much but ram-hungry, eyecandy graphics. The scrolling is improved, that's correct, but with Sense 2.5 (newest Manila) you will barely need to use the old scrolling of WM6.1 as most stuff is integrated. I can warmly recommend Kisja's WM 6.1 with Sense 2.5, although you might wanna wait for the final release (in RC1 now).
The reason for your high RAM usage is mostly graphics - phone canvas, Manila and some WM6.5 graphics. The more tabs in Manila you open, the more RAM it uses. The WM6.5 screenlock also consumes alot of RAM. In addition, there are (and will always be) some memory leaks in WM. Don't ask me why, it just is like that. Therefore you need to use RAMsweeper, cleanRAM or other cleaners every once in a while.
I recommend you to disable the WM6.5 screenlock and use either the old WM or TouchLockPro which is a great piece of software.

I have to agree with the topic.
I've been searching for a good Diamond rom, but can't seem to find one.
I personally don't care about the OS on my phone. 6.1 seems to work well enough.
I do want manilla 2.5 though. It looks better and it's really easy to use with the finger buttons.
Maybe someone could help me out.
I am looking for the following rom:
- Manilla 2.5
- Ability to switch automatic to landscape in; Manilla, contacts and texting windows (don't care about the rest but it would be nice)
- Fast and stable. So for daily use.
- Not to heavy on RAM. I still want to be able to use all my apps.
- CLEAN.
Things I don't care about:
- OS. 6.1 or 6.5 both are welcome
- Playing music.
- Extra apps except for the essentials.
- Enhanced looks. Plain HTC black works fine.
So; clean, fast, stable, RAM friendly and manilla 2.5.
A rom for standard daily usage. Calling, browsing contacts, texting, maybe browsing the web every now and then AND using GPS on SOME occasions.
This is WAY to much to ask for a Diamond rom. But maybe someone could help a guy out.

This one is nice, stable & fast
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567949

6.5.3 RAM issues?

Is anyone else having severe RAM issues with 6.5.3? After a day I'm down to less than 20MB free if I have Opera open! I think it might be something I install. Here is the list of CABS I install that I think could have some effect on the system.
ShowcaseSuite (I disable auto-run, only manual launch with a mapped button)
SdkCerts
Coreplayer
RhodiumKeyboardControl (button remap program)
Palringo 2.0.0
PowerSMS
Resco Explorer
reSTART
RunGPS
Skype
TomTom 7
My biggest suspicion is ShowcaseSuite. What task manager do you all use on 6.5.3?

What rom specifically are you using?

I'm currently on RRE but I had this problem on EnergyROM, too. I didn't seem to have this problem on the official 6.5 ROM though, but I wanted 6.5.3.

Same issue here.. you might want to post this to the RRE thread...

sphinx88 said:
Same issue here.. you might want to post this to the RRE thread...
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Do you use any of the same programs as me?

The only two that match are CorePlayer and TomTom
But it is the same with Co-Pilot.
Others are:
PhoneAlarm
g-alarm
beyondpod
pocketbible
Neoreader
Mortscript

What rom are you using? And manila 2.5?
I found on NRG's Rom I had about 40mbs spare at boot, and I switched to another rom I have about 70.

i also think showcase might be the culprit. i think more specifically its the showcase suite. im doing some testing right now with a vanilla installation of 6.5.3 to see if its whats slowing me down. ill report soon....

What is "Showcase?"

It depends on the pagepool setting of the ROM. A bigger pagepool will render you with a smaller pool of useable RAM upon startup. I know energy ROM's pagepool is set to 28mb. I always changed it to 16mb prior to flashing. So far works okay for me, and my memory utilisation never goes beyond 75%.

Seifer1975 said:
It depends on the pagepool setting of the ROM. A bigger pagepool will render you with a smaller pool of useable RAM upon startup. I know energy ROM's pagepool is set to 28mb. I always changed it to 16mb prior to flashing. So far works okay for me, and my memory utilisation never goes beyond 75%.
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Usable RAM at startup is not the problem. The problem is growing RAM usage. It boots at say 70MB free, but after a day, even after I close everything except Opera, I'm down to around 15MB. If I close Opera around 30MB. That is 40MB that is just lost. GWES.exe seems to grow a lot, but as much as the lost RAM (though it is most of it).

TP2 running v slow - how do i free up memory?

My TP2 (winmo 6.5) is running painfully slow atm - it can take 10-20 seconds do do something like load my inbox or an email..
On a quest to speed it up I was looking at the memory in use:
Total: 187.41mb
In Use: 151.36mb
Free: 36.05
which is when the device is idle with no open apps.
36MB of free memory seems appallingly low to me.
Im sure on winmo 6.1 there was a slider you could adjust how much memory is allocated to storage and how much to programs. did I imagine this or how do i find it now?
I have 259.2MB of 'Storage' memory, of which only 30MB is used, hanging onto the rest is a big waste.
Or - is there a better way to speed things up? (like install android? )

You can look through a couple other posts stating very similar characteristics. Two popular programs are the SSK Dynamic resource proxy and NoPushInternet. Both can help reduce RAM usage significantly. Another program you should look into is CleanRAM, which will clear any stacks that might not have been closed when the program was ended. If you need help finding the CABs let me know and i'll post them up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676277

Well I dont know which 6.5 your running but I have switched ROMS myself, I was using the EU rom for the past couple of months, and anytime I got under 40MB free memory, the TP2 would run slow and odd, I recently switched over to the SEA rom, put the exact same programs on and as of right now I am running at 27MB of free ram with nothing running, and its just as fast when its fully loaded and I have almost 87MB of free ram. but its taken 4 days to drop to 27MB, odd.

burtonsnow8 said:
You can look through a couple other posts stating very similar characteristics. Two popular programs are the SSK Dynamic resource proxy and NoPushInternet. Both can help reduce RAM usage significantly. Another program you should look into is CleanRAM, which will clear any stacks that might not have been closed when the program was ended. If you need help finding the CABs let me know and i'll post them up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676277
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Yeah, also by reducing the ShareMemSize (HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\ResProxy) to 0. So I read somehwere!

BioTecK said:
Yeah, also by reducing the ShareMemSize (HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\ResProxy) to 0. So I read somehwere!
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Yes, I'm pretty sure that's what the "dynamic resource proxy" cab does. I don't have my TP2 with me at the moment or I'd test to confirm.

jamesb457 said:
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Im sure on winmo 6.1 there was a slider you could adjust how much memory is allocated to storage and how much to programs. did I imagine this or how do i find it now?
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I'm afraid you are showing your age, so far as I know that slider hasn't been used since before WM5. With WM5 they went to using NVRAM for storage (flash memory if you prefer). Prior to that all WM used RAM for storage - which meant they could not be turned off without clearing everything! But in those versions (I remember WM2003 in particular), you could allocate where the ram was used - storage or programs.
I often think that in some ways those older OS were faster. I remember my XDA mini working very fast. When MS switched to non volatile storage, I think they lost a bit of speed - flash is not as fast as RAM. Of course they gained the fact that you don't have to worry about turning off the power and losing your files!