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Is there a way to change the kernel or a script or whatever to get the phone to boot automatically as soon as a power source is connected?
I'm going to use a phone as a media device (will be in a closed box so nobody can fiddle with it, with continues power connected), but it will be stupid for me to go to the site to turn it on if the main power has failed and the battery has run empty. I would like the phone to turn on automatically as soon as the main power is restored!
Any help will be appreciated!
default behaviour already.
not on my hero? or is it only when the battery goes totally flat?
well firstly with these types of batteries you don't want to make a common thing about running them down to 0% its not good for the life of the battery.
and secondly I agree, afaik my phone does not auto boot when power is in place maybe that poster got confused between booting (from power off) and the screen turning on from sleep.
As the phone is turned off I don't think it will be possible to create something to make it auto turn on.
Thanks for the replies!
The device will be connected to a power source continuously and will probably never go flat. I just need a way to power it up in case something happens and the device go flat!
heroandroid said:
Thanks for the replies!
The device will be connected to a power source continuously and will probably never go flat. I just need a way to power it up in case something happens and the device go flat!
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I honestly don't think this is possible, since the SPL is the only thing with control of the phone at this point. If the SPL does it, then you're fine. Otherwise you can't
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Thanks for all the replies guys! I guess i'm screwed then!
Just another observation! When the phone is plugged in to a power source, and the battery is removed and then replaced, the phone starts by itself! Any ideas why?
No, no screwed...
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I guess i'm screwed then!
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You are, maybe, if you only think along software lines for a solution. There was a world of invention before software.... but you probably won't remember.
How about considering a mechanical switch operated only when the power is first connected. Something along the lines of a cam that bears against the on switch. The cam could be profiled to give a continuous press for a few seconds as it turns. After one full revolution the cam switches its driving motor off until power is removed and restored again. One-off wipes of windscreen wipers come to mind as an example.
Or,if you like electronics, how about a 555 timer IC (do they still exist?) and look up an electronic one shot circuit in a cookbook. You could parallel wire to the phone switch or you could use an electo-mechanical actuator.
Not bad!
Not a bad idea, but this would be my last resort, as I plan on at least 500 units, it will take to long to modify them all. And I do like electronics, I'm actually an electronic engineer, but switched to pure programming a couple of months back! And yes you do still get 555 timers.
This isn't even possible that easy because the phone won't turn on if the battery is below ~2 %..
Big time beckons...
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Not a bad idea, but this would be my last resort, as I plan on at least 500 units
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Well if that's for real I would approach HTC; give them your problem and ask for a special to be manufactured.
Then when you're in the Dragons Den just tell them Croques sent you.
Have you looked at all the 7" slates from china retailing at £65 and up - they are WiFi but you could dongle them if needed. Or do you specifically need the phone application? They have terrible battery life - 2hrs reported - so mains is the only way for them.
Yer... but no... bt yer
maxisma said:
This isn't even possible that easy because the phone won't turn on if the battery is below ~2 %..
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I'm not sure as I follow this; but since its SNAFU here most of the time it's not unusual.
In operation, with the phone permanently connected to mains, the battery will remain at full charge. If the power is removed the battery will discharge until critical - and then switch itself off. The battery will thus be protected from going less than 2% won't it?
I need to be connected to the GSM network! The media must be transfered to the device over the network! Wifi is not an option! Do you really think they'll make it custom if I take 500? I think 500 is pocket change for them!!!
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I'm not sure as I follow this; but since its SNAFU here most of the time it's not unusual.
In operation, with the phone permanently connected to mains, the battery will remain at full charge. If the power is removed the battery will discharge until critical - and then switch itself off. The battery will thus be protected from going less than 2% won't it?
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I'll let you know soon enough! I'm draining my battery as we speak!!
I mean my phone's battery, not mine!!
heroandroid said:
Do you really think they'll make it custom if I take 500? I think 500 is pocket change for them!!!
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I have no idea; nor do you; so ask! Your 500 units could be the start of something big... I have no idea what you are up to... but more importantly neither would HTC - you could say 500 units were for market trials with a potential large order to follow if the trial is successful.
Nothing ventured nothing gained; remember the 'glass is half-empty' only if you let it be!
(I'm on to life coaching now and people pay money for this!)
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I'll let you know soon enough! I'm draining my battery as we speak!!
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Battery drained. It does start when power button is pressed after reapplying power! I assume if it is left drained for a while it will need some time to recover before it will boot. But it's easy enough to put a longer delay on the "button pusher"!
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well firstly with these types of batteries you don't want to make a common thing about running them down to 0% its not good for the life of the battery.
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That's unfortunate considering these phones without a charge during the day quite often be drained completely while I'm out of the house.
Saying that though on FroydVillain + Cyanogen6.0 (Froyo), I've noticed my battery life is substantially better, and has been for days now. I'm not sure how thats even possible, but I've got home three days in a row after about 12 hours off charge and the batter is still showing >50% charge.
and what about an "hacked" SPL to boot when connected to power?
Somehow my phone has bricked itself. It's a Droid Incredible 2 that I purchased off an ebay power seller a few months ago. I've had no problems with it. I got myself a wireless charger for Christmas. Not sure if that is relevant or not, but wanted to give all the facts.
Last night I put the phone on the wireless charger when I went to bed like I have since Christmas. This was about 2200ish. Around 0300ish I hear beeping sounds from the charger and I hear a loud ticking sound from that vicinity as well. No idea if the ticking sound was coming from the charger. I was dead asleep and thought I might be dreaming it. Then it stopped. I went back to sleep and thought nothing of it until this morning when I picked up my phone and it was dead.
By dead I mean completely dead. Press the power button and nothing happens. Plug a charger into it and the charging light blinks once every 4-5 seconds. The phone still will not power on. Battery pull had no effect. Tried to get into recovery by holding the volume button and power button down. Nothing at all.
Any ideas before I take it down to the VZW store this evening? My phone is rooted so I may have voided my warranty and I have no way to un-root it. It seems to be a hardware issue, not a software one though so it shouldn't matter.
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Somehow my phone has bricked itself. It's a Droid Incredible 2 that I purchased off an ebay power seller a few months ago. I've had no problems with it. I got myself a wireless charger for Christmas. Not sure if that is relevant or not, but wanted to give all the facts.
Last night I put the phone on the wireless charger when I went to bed like I have since Christmas. This was about 2200ish. Around 0300ish I hear beeping sounds from the charger and I hear a loud ticking sound from that vicinity as well. No idea if the ticking sound was coming from the charger. I was dead asleep and thought I might be dreaming it. Then it stopped. I went back to sleep and thought nothing of it until this morning when I picked up my phone and it was dead.
By dead I mean completely dead. Press the power button and nothing happens. Plug a charger into it and the charging light blinks once every 4-5 seconds. The phone still will not power on. Battery pull had no effect. Tried to get into recovery by holding the volume button and power button down. Nothing at all.
Any ideas before I take it down to the VZW store this evening? My phone is rooted so I may have voided my warranty and I have no way to un-root it. It seems to be a hardware issue, not a software one though so it shouldn't matter.
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Sounds more like your charger fried your battery, and that's if you are lucky. The other possibility is that your charging port is fried as well, not as likely though since you said it still blinks when you plug it in. My personal opinion would be to get a new battery and charge it with your normal charger, if that works then toss the wireless one, it's probably bad news.
Unfortunately if you had purchased the phone from verizon they would have just given you a new battery free, they usually do that no questions asked one time for each customer, at least from all my encounters that's how it's been.
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Somehow my phone has bricked itself. It's a Droid Incredible 2 that I purchased off an ebay power seller a few months ago. I've had no problems with it. I got myself a wireless charger for Christmas. Not sure if that is relevant or not, but wanted to give all the facts.
Last night I put the phone on the wireless charger when I went to bed like I have since Christmas. This was about 2200ish. Around 0300ish I hear beeping sounds from the charger and I hear a loud ticking sound from that vicinity as well. No idea if the ticking sound was coming from the charger. I was dead asleep and thought I might be dreaming it. Then it stopped. I went back to sleep and thought nothing of it until this morning when I picked up my phone and it was dead.
By dead I mean completely dead. Press the power button and nothing happens. Plug a charger into it and the charging light blinks once every 4-5 seconds. The phone still will not power on. Battery pull had no effect. Tried to get into recovery by holding the volume button and power button down. Nothing at all.
Any ideas before I take it down to the VZW store this evening? My phone is rooted so I may have voided my warranty and I have no way to un-root it. It seems to be a hardware issue, not a software one though so it shouldn't matter.
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before you do that you need to plug your phone in for a few hours so it can get a good charge. It sounds like you wireless charger wasn't working and your phone is dead. Then pull your battery and try to turn your phone on.
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before you do that you need to plug your phone in for a few hours so it can get a good charge. It sounds like you wireless charger wasn't working and your phone is dead. Then pull your battery and try to turn your phone on.
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good call, didn't even think about that, if it doesn't work after trying to charge it with the normal charger then most likely the wireless charger fried the battery and you it just needs to be replaced.
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Sounds more like your charger fried your battery, and that's if you are lucky. The other possibility is that your charging port is fried as well, not as likely though since you said it still blinks when you plug it in. My personal opinion would be to get a new battery and charge it with your normal charger, if that works then toss the wireless one, it's probably bad news.
Unfortunately if you had purchased the phone from verizon they would have just given you a new battery free, they usually do that no questions asked one time for each customer, at least from all my encounters that's how it's been.
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Sadly I don't have another battery to test with. I'm sure they have one at the VZW store I can test with (I hope). It doesn't power on even plugged into the wall though. Shouldn't it power on plugged into the wall whether there's a battery in it or not?
I'm not sure how it could have fried the charging port if it was charging wirelessly. Unless you're talking about the charging connectors inside the phone. That would be bad news altogether. But if that happened, the phone wouldn't go from fully charged to 0% in just 3-4 hours. So that would indicate the entire phone is fried which would make me extremely unhappy.
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before you do that you need to plug your phone in for a few hours so it can get a good charge. It sounds like you wireless charger wasn't working and your phone is dead. Then pull your battery and try to turn your phone on.
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It won't charge when plugged into the charger. The charging light doesn't come on at all.
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It won't charge when plugged into the charger. The charging light doesn't come on at all.
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I would go to a verizon store and check on testing out another battery then. Hopefully that wireless charger didn't fry anything internally. Also, if your battery is completely dead then the phone won't bootup even if plugged in, it's like having a dead battery in your car, if you have low battery your car will start up but if you have a dead battery it won't because it needs at least a little juice to fire up the alternator. Hope that analogy made sense lol.
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I would go to a verizon store and check on testing out another battery then. Hopefully that wireless charger didn't fry anything internally. Also, if your battery is completely dead then the phone won't bootup even if plugged in, it's like having a dead battery in your car, if you have low battery your car will start up but if you have a dead battery it won't because it needs at least a little juice to fire up the alternator. Hope that analogy made sense lol.
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It did. I just figured with no battery it would bypass the battery and run just on AC power. I'm using my DInc at the moment so I still have a phone. The battery for the DInc has the terminals on the other side and I'm guessing it's not as simple as just turning the battery over. Last thing I want is to make things worse.
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It did. I just figured with no battery it would bypass the battery and run just on AC power. I'm using my DInc at the moment so I still have a phone. The battery for the DInc has the terminals on the other side and I'm guessing it's not as simple as just turning the battery over. Last thing I want is to make things worse.
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Nope, don't even attempt that, you might cause more problems than you already have. Bottomline though, I'd just take it in to a verizon and see how they can help you. They are usually really cool about giving a hand at most stores.
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Nope, don't even attempt that, you might cause more problems than you already have. Bottomline though, I'd just take it in to a verizon and see how they can help you. They are usually really cool about giving a hand at most stores.
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I'm desperate at this point and that still struck me as a bad idea.
I can't find any other instances on Google where using a wireless charger fried a phone.
Went to the VZW store. They said my phone had no warranty on it, but since I purchased insurance they'd overnight me a replacement. They said the battery is good. The phone itself is dead apparently. With the holiday and me getting there after 1700, I'm guessing I won't get it until Tuesday. I'm now worried about how to wipe my personal data from the phone before sending it in.
Smash the phone.. they wouldn't find out.. its an insurance replacement already and that's 99% of the reason insurance exists.. for water/smash/loss to the phone.
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faehsemc said:
Smash the phone.. they wouldn't find out.. its an insurance replacement already and that's 99% of the reason insurance exists.. for water/smash/loss to the phone.
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agreed. Assurion actually performs a master reset on devices before booting (if phone actually boots). If not they will use your phone as a donor phone. I use assurion as the rooters get out of jail card. They just dont give a damn.
In fact I have "lost" many phones just to have parts lol. Cheaper and faster shipping than eBay.
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faehsemc said:
Smash the phone.. they wouldn't find out.. its an insurance replacement already and that's 99% of the reason insurance exists.. for water/smash/loss to the phone.
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After sleeping on it, I remembered that I've got a screen lock on there so my data is all safe. The phone is programmed to nuke itself if someone enters the wrong code too many times. I'm not too worried about it now.
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agreed. Assurion actually performs a master reset on devices before booting (if phone actually boots). If not they will use your phone as a donor phone. I use assurion as the rooters get out of jail card. They just dont give a damn.
In fact I have "lost" many phones just to have parts lol. Cheaper and faster shipping than eBay.
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Not trying to sound like a ****, but it's people like you who cheat the system for their own benefits. Inturn, the prices of insurance go up resulting in ridiculous prices to pay.
Pretty soon insurance isn't even going to be worth it to buy because it will cost so much.
Not once did I ever say I cheated the system. The devices I am claiming as lost are broke. What would be the use of paying for another phone if the one I have works.
The cost of insurance being raised is due to inflation caused by shipping cost being raised due to the cost of gasoline.
In fact what I do saves me from multiple insurance claims. Example I washed my old x10. Filled claim as lost. Recieved my replacement. A month later broke my screen. Instead of having to use insurance again I simply swapped out my screens.
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Strangely enough, the device now works. I put it on the charger when I had the problems with it and it wouldn't power on and the charging light just flashed. I just plugged it in again 'cuz I was bored stiff more than anything. It started charging. I pressed the power button. It powered on. Battery says it is at 14%. Should I trust this device?
Let it fill up all the way.. try it
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Let it fill up all the way.. try it
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Fill it wirelessly or wired? I'm thinking wirelessly. A replacement device is on it's way anyway and VZW says the battery tested good.
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Fill it wirelessly or wired? I'm thinking wirelessly. A replacement device is on it's way anyway and VZW says the battery tested good.
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Whichever way you did it to get 14%
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It charged over night with no issues. I transferred my service back to it, but I'm carrying my full charged backup phone with me for a couple of days. VZW tested the battery at the store and claimed it was good.
Okay, my friend hooked his DZ to USB to charge it today (his charger is lost), and it had 10% battery remaining. So detached it after 2 hours, to find out that it is not turning on. Now, I have the phone, and it is acting like this:
1. When connected to charger, the orange LED will blink.
2. Vol down+power will not launch fastboot.
3. It would turn on a couple of times but then it would die. For no reason.
4. When pressing the power button if doesn't turn on, it will vibrate 3 times and the orange LED will blink.
External battery charger?
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m1l4droid said:
Are you sure it's the battery?
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Its worth a shot?
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m1l4droid said:
Yeah but we don't have external battery charger.
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Unless you can get another battery in there to test if the phone charges it correctly, you might not have a choice! They're pretty cheap, and often come bundled with extra batteries.
Fortunately...
Fortunately,I'd the same problem with hTC Desire AKA Bravo,I changed the battery and it solved the problem.
Hope changing the battery helps you over this...
My G2 did exactly what you are referencing I left that phone off for three days, replaced the battery with a brand new one (oem) charged it overnight and the next morning it powered up and been fine ever since.
Agreed. - You just need a new battery.
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Agreed. - You just need a new battery.
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agreed, same problem with me, i changed my batt to 3500mAh. =)
Ahmm...
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...You just need a new battery.
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My S6 G920P started overheating and shutting down, from what I saw, from some Google searches, it's the power management IC it can be replaced but I don't know anyone that could do it. But I found an international S6 motherboard G920F for a reasonable price and that I can do it myself. What I want to know is if they are interchangeable or has some advice that could help.
Saafir said:
Returning it to Sprint is not an option eh?
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Not really I'm leaving in Portugal.
Neto. said:
Not really I'm leaving in Portugal.
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Is it the phone over beating or does is say the battery temp is to high?
It started overheating the cpu and when I need more juice like when I turn the data on it would shutdown. It would be on ok but everything that required more power would shut it down. Then it couldn't even charge turned on, I turned it off and it charged to 100% then just started one more time and went dead.
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It started overheating the cpu and when I need more juice like when I turn the data on it would shutdown. It would be on ok but everything that required more power would shut it down. Then it couldn't even charge turned on, I turned it off and it charged to 100% then just started one more time and went dead.
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Disasemble and replace the mother board. Only other option
Hi guys
Just cannot seem to get the thing to charge.
Tried different charger/usb cable. Got completely new USB power board. Sometimes the battery icon comes up on the screen when i turn it on of just a battery with a bit of low red at the bottom of it. It won't turn on. Theres not even a charging beacon light on top of the phone to indicate charge.
What does this usually show? Bricked phone, bad motherboard or bad battery?
Cheers.
MartK87 said:
Hi guys
Just cannot seem to get the thing to charge.
Tried different charger/usb cable. Got completely new USB power board. Sometimes the battery icon comes up on the screen when i turn it on of just a battery with a bit of low red at the bottom of it. It won't turn on. Theres not even a charging beacon light on top of the phone to indicate charge.
What does this usually show? Bricked phone, bad motherboard or bad battery?
Cheers.
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Is the error that comes to screen
"USB not supported"?
not getting any error mate. It is totally dead.
I did buy a new battery which had 4% life left. Not enough to copy 64GB data to an SD card.
It seems it must be the main board which is damaged. I have replaced the power board and the middle ribbon cable. This has to be a mobo issue unless u can think of anything else?
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not getting any error mate. It is totally dead.
I did buy a new battery which had 4% life left. Not enough to copy 64GB data to an SD card.
It seems it must be the main board which is damaged. I have replaced the power board and the middle ribbon cable. This has to be a mobo issue unless u can think of anything else?
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I still don't think that's mobo issue. Try this before you intend to replace your mobo.
Plug in charging using any charger other than wall charger. Use a power bank or anything and when the battery icon shows up that you described in first post(the red icon) leave it there as it is and let it charge over night. Try powering up in the morning.
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I still don't think that's mobo issue. Try this before you intend to replace your mobo.
Plug in charging using any charger other than wall charger. Use a power bank or anything and when the battery icon shows up that you described in first post(the red icon) leave it there as it is and let it charge over night. Try powering up in the morning.
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I will be sure to do that and let you know once done thanks
I dont get any icon on the screen when I plug a charger in. Even the powerbank... When i plug that in I get no beacon light on the top of the phone to indicate charge and also no icon on the phone screen. The phone never gets hot when it charges and the charging device never gets hot. Stone cold both of them.
What do you reckon?
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I will be sure to do that and let you know once done thanks
I dont get any icon on the screen when I plug a charger in. Even the powerbank... When i plug that in I get no beacon light on the top of the phone to indicate charge and also no icon on the phone screen. The phone never gets hot when it charges and the charging device never gets hot. Stone cold both of them.
What do you reckon?
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I think your phone needs a doctor ?. Take him to the hospital (service center). Last resort before going to service center is take the battery out and charge it using one of those battery charger.
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I think your phone needs a doctor . Take him to the hospital (service center). Last resort before going to service center is take the battery out and charge it using one of those battery charger.
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haha yes...
The annoyance is though its not the normal kind of battery you come across...
Take a look here: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ScMAAOSwVm5Y-v50/s-l300.jpg
It has a strange connector on it. one of which I have never seen before.
How do i find service centres located in Australia?
Many thanks again
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haha yes...
The annoyance is though its not the normal kind of battery you come across...
Take a look here: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ScMAAOSwVm5Y-v50/s-l300.jpg
It has a strange connector on it. one of which I have never seen before.?
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Yes, its strange indeed however my battery charger is one with wires so i don't need to worry about connectors.
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How do i find service centres located in Australia
Many thanks again
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https://www.asus.com/au/support/Service-Center/Australia
I think this url might help if you haven't tried it yet. :good: