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http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/27589/GDC_Microsoft_Announces_XNA_Game_Studio_40.php
^it's only a matter of time before you l337 ha><ors will find a way to customize EVERYTHING on WP7S. i got a lot of confidence in all of you cookers.
personally i'm really excited to see what you guys will come up with, not just the standard offerings that OEMs will give us.
if you thinking cooking ROMs now is l337... just wait til you start truly diving into VB and using real powerhouse computer languages to bring a new look to the new phones.
i am already requesting this:
please, som1 'cook' up a LCARs star trek TNG UI complete w/sound fx =). i think the "tricorder" is no longer sci-fi. it's REAL and it's ON
I must have missed the memo when VB became "1337"
it's a mean to an end =P. a tool. ultimately it's l337 ha><ors on here will figure a way around the restrictions and put in their own UI designs =). i don't doubt it. it'll simply be a matter of time and figuring out the BIOS portions. these phones have like a BIOS type stuff like PCs don't they?:
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if you thinking cooking ROMs now is l337... just wait til you start truly diving into VB and using real powerhouse computer languages to bring a new look to the new phones.
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Sorry, is this VB as in "VisualBasic" or something else that is abbreviated to "VB"? Because I'm really not recognising that as a description of VisualBasic.
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it's a mean to an end =P. a tool. ultimately it's l337 ha><ors on here will figure a way around the restrictions and put in their own UI designs =). i don't doubt it. it'll simply be a matter of time and figuring out the BIOS portions. these phones have like a BIOS type stuff like PCs don't they?:
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Ah, cool, so you're just giving us textual diarrhea and don't really have a clue what you're on about?
Cheers for the link, anyway.
Shasarak said:
Sorry, is this VB as in "VisualBasic" or something else that is abbreviated to "VB"? Because I'm really not recognising that as a description of VisualBasic.
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may be typo,
I think is VS (Visual studio )
But why XNA don't support VB.net?
elyl, every1 asks me all the time the same question IRL . muhahaha
i think i'm referring to the whole software development package in general. i still use 'old terms' like VisualBasic to refer to the whole 2008 .net C#, etc.etc.etc. and all new languages that are used =P
WP7 is going to support .NET and Silverlight. All managed code so they'll limitations to what you can do. On the brightside that also means they'll be limitations to how much a program can mess up your device lol.
XNA 3.1 doesn't support VB through VS.NET, but you logically, you should be able to use VB for XNA in some fasion, considering it all goes to CLR anyways.
This post is retarded though. WM6.5 had already had access to .NET CF which is alot more complex than the .NET Framework they are exposing to WM7. Where WM7 wins is with Silverlight and XNA. But then again, even both of those frameworks rely on exactly what pieces of the .NET Framework they make available.
If WM7 programming is anything like the Zune HD, expect pure failure. Zune HD SDK is nothing but an embarssment to Microsoft and developers who even want to code with it. I can't imagine Microsoft would make a similar move with WM7, but if they do, Android and iPhone, hell even Palm will have a lead.
Only time can tell, and that time is in a few day. The Beta SDK will be released to MIX Attendees, TAP Members and MSDN Subscribers come monday/tuesday. Expect next week to be a huge week in the development and potential for success of WM7.
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Only time can tell, and that time is in a few day. The Beta SDK will be released to MIX Attendees, TAP Members and MSDN Subscribers come monday/tuesday. Expect next week to be a huge week in the development and potential for success of WM7.
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Not that I don't believe you (it makes sense) but where'd you hear that?
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i still use 'old terms' like VisualBasic to refer to the whole 2008 .net C#, etc.etc.etc. and all new languages that are used =P
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..Don't
Hi
I'm going to say the WP8 details.
1.No Wifi Because of copyright law
2.No Bluetooth Because of copyright law
3.No File Explorer Because of copyright law
4.No Sync with PC Because of copyright law
5.No Ringtone Because you download them and Ignoring the copyright law
6.No Internet Because you will Ignore the copyright law
7.No Camera Because you can shot something somewhere that ignore the copyright law
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1000.No LCD Because you see something on other phone and ignore the copyright law
1001.No OS Because you can copy somethings from Our OS and ignore the copyright law
1002.No Handset Because you will Ignore All of the above
if somethings released from MS I will add here.
do not forget THANKS.
I hate to even reply, but that's one of the worst posts I've ever read.
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I hate to even reply, but that's one of the worst posts I've ever read.
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Why so serious? I found it rather amusing.
Panties in a tissy in 3,2,1.....
Apple rep responds that MS is copying them with such a minimalistic design ansd that they 1st came up with less is more.
While MS and Apple lawyers argue over who owns what and how it can get implemented in future technologies Linux coders figure out how to remove all of these features from android and release it in 6 hours.
even with android streamlined with the above features removed users continue to load every app they can find on there devices and then complain that the new variant is slow and sluggish.
Att responds that these new features requires them to buy sprint and Verizon otherwise they wont be able to support iphon6..
This is simply Flame Bait, could someone please close it down or change the title to something more fitting.
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Apple rep responds that MS is copying them with such a minimalistic design ansd that they 1st came up with less is more.
While MS and Apple lawyers argue over who owns what and how it can get implemented in future technologies Linux coders figure out how to remove all of these features from android and release it in 6 hours.
even with android streamlined with the above features removed users continue to load every app they can find on there devices and then complain that the new variant is slow and sluggish.
Att responds that these new features requires them to buy sprint and Verizon otherwise they wont be able to support iphon6..
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your sword of satire is sharp and dangerous !
lol
They won't call it WP8 either. "W,P" infringes the alphabet....which Apple recently acquired the copyrights to. "8" infringes future quantum computing, which Google now owns the rights to.
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They won't call it WP8 either. "W,P" infringes the alphabet....which Apple recently acquired the copyrights to. "8" infringes future quantum computing, which Google now owns the rights to.
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From it's flamebait beginnings, this has become probably the most amusing (and in a n ironic sense, the most factually accurate) thread on the entirety of the WP7 section.
hi
My dear friends it's just a Critical humor
I have a HTC 7 PRO and I love wp7 but it has many and many disadvantages.
We are talking about Microsoft not a small company.
Ask yourself why and why after wm6.x that have everything , wp7 comes more and more weaker than ago ?????
Thanks for Understanding.
Everyone must have capacity to hear opposite ideas.
If everyone tried to spend her/his energy to press THANKS button it was more effective for all of us.
Thanks for understanding
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hi
My dear friends it's just a Critical humor
I have a HTC 7 PRO and I love wp7 but it has many and many disadvantages.
We are talking about Microsoft not a small company.
Ask yourself why and why after wm6.x that have everything , wp7 comes more and more weaker than ago ?????
Thanks for Understanding.
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Actually, I don't understand
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My dear friends it's just a Critical humor
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There were no critics, no humor. Not funny just stupid.
P.S. We definitely need an "Unlike" button on forums; if unlike level reaches some threshold, thread should be automatically moved to the "junk" or "trash" forum, and OP should receive -1 to his reputation (i.e. "Thanks Meter")
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There were no critics, no humor. Not funny just stupid.
P.S. We definitely need an "Unlike" button on forums; if unlike level reaches some threshold, thread should be automatically moved to the "junk" or "trash" forum, and OP should receive -1 to his reputation (i.e. "Thanks Meter")
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Totally Agree! XD
arses said:
hi
My dear friends it's just a Critical humor
I have a HTC 7 PRO and I love wp7 but it has many and many disadvantages.
We are talking about Microsoft not a small company.
Ask yourself why and why after wm6.x that have everything , wp7 comes more and more weaker than ago ?????
Thanks for Understanding.
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Windows Mobile was an ugly pile of laggy slow ****.
If they had stayed with it, the OS would be (and was) dead in the water, not to mention looking like it was perpetually 1998.
You can't seriously think that wm had any redeeming qualities that would be an excuse to keep supporting it??
sure haven't said:
Windows Mobile was an ugly pile of laggy slow ****.
If they had stayed with it, the OS would be (and was) dead in the water, not to mention looking like it was perpetually 1998.
You can't seriously think that wm had any redeeming qualities that would be an excuse to keep supporting it??
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Not really. My experience with WinMo is quite good. In fact, I would say WinMo can be smoother and faster than Android. But there are things a person has to do first. The foundation of a good mobile OS is there in WinMo. It's just that MS didn't support it like they should have. MS didn't work out the bugs and finesse WinMo to the level it could be.
I've reinstalled WinMo on my HD2 and have been surprised how well is can be compared to Android. But I'm using a custom version and the dev clearly was able to bring out the best in WinMo. Anyone experiencing lagginess and slowness hasn't attempted to remedy it with the available fixes.
Just skimming the news. Anyone know (links please) otherwise than these claims ?
http://www.knowyourcell.com/news/1219326/windows_8_to_be_the_windows_phone_7_apollo_update.html
Source ^
Text:
Jan 25, 2012
"Renowned blogger and editor of Russian website Mobile-Review has let slip that the Windows 8 update we're looking forward to may actually be codenamed Windows Phone Apollo.
Eldar posted a tweet saying, 'Do u know that windows phone 8 os is special? May be we even dont see word phone here but that's apollo and oct2012'
This was quickly followed by a post stating Windows Phone 7 apps won't be compatible with Windows 8:
'WP8 os isn't compatible with wp7 on app level (u need to rewrite all apps). Thats another os core with metro ui...'
Just what is Mutazin suggesting here?
Will we see a separate mobile OS called Windows Phone 8, or will that be Windows Phone 7 - but a newer version?
Also, Nvidia's CEO mentioned last year that Windows Phone 7 apps would work natively on Windows 8.
Although Eldar Murtazin is very often correct with his predictions, he sometimes is way off the mark. We sincerely hope he's wrong about Windows Phone 7 apps not working on Windows 8.
After all, there are very few spectacular ones our there - surely Microsoft wouldn't want to start again?"
If it's better than windows Phone 7 then that would be great, but if it's crapy then no. I can already see disaster with people having to re-write and re-buy apps. I don't know about MS now days, some one over there must be hitting the crack pipe pretty hard.
Eldar is a moron. It has been outright stated by two much more competent sources that wp7 apps would work on windows 8.
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Eldar is a moron. It has been outright stated by two much more competent sources that wp7 apps would work on windows 8.
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Ok, cool, but did you forget the links ?
Nope, no need to dig from a mobile device. Both Nvidia and a Microsoft rep said that it'd be done. NVIDIA stated it outright, and Microsoft said that you'd be able to exit a game on your phone and pick up where you left off on your windows 8 enabled PC. I am interested in seeing how games with accelerometer controls transition or if that will require further support from the dev. Only time will tell.
Eldar was speaking ill of Mango 4 months before the beta was leaked, he's an analyst, if he's right, he predicted the future. If he's wrong, well he's not a fortune teller, his industry is a joke.
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Nope, no need to dig from a mobile device. Both Nvidia and a Microsoft rep said that it'd be done. NVIDIA stated it outright, and Microsoft said that you'd be able to exit a game on your phone and pick up where you left off on your windows 8 enabled PC. I am interested in seeing how games with accelerometer controls transition or if that will require further support from the dev. Only time will tell.
Eldar was speaking ill of Mango 4 months before the beta was leaked, he's an analyst, if he's right, he predicted the future. If he's wrong, well he's not a fortune teller, his industry is a joke.
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Right here is the NVIDIA link --http://www.winrumors.com/nvidia-ceo-claims-windows-phone-7-apps-will-run-on-windows-8/
(date is obviously old. This new rumour in the OP's post is recent. So can't say if this link still holds the same value)
Morons will be morons.
Think about it this way wp7 marketplace is barely catching up to likes of android and ios. Why do you think any developers would bother redoing the apps for wp8. Paid apps maybe but not free apps so MS would be starting almost from scratch
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Nope, no need to dig from a mobile device. Both Nvidia and a Microsoft rep said that it'd be done. NVIDIA stated it outright, and Microsoft said that you'd be able to exit a game on your phone and pick up where you left off on your windows 8 enabled PC. I am interested in seeing how games with accelerometer controls transition or if that will require further support from the dev. Only time will tell.
Eldar was speaking ill of Mango 4 months before the beta was leaked, he's an analyst, if he's right, he predicted the future. If he's wrong, well he's not a fortune teller, his industry is a joke.
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Thats a big ass dream. Entirely plausible, but very unlikely to come from Microsoft.
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Am I misreading or is everyone else.
NVidia and Microsoft said Windows Phone 7 apps will be natively compatible with Windows 8 the PC OS.
What Eldar is suggesting is "WP8 os isn't compatible with wp7 on app level". Honestly, that would be the most ridiculous move MS could make in the whole WP existence.
That would be so stupid that I refuse to believe it. Unless WP8 had to run WP7 in some kind of sideloaded enviroment and even then why would MS scrap and start over again?
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Am I misreading or is everyone else.
NVidia and Microsoft said Windows Phone 7 apps will be natively compatible with Windows 8 the PC OS.
What Eldar is suggesting is "WP8 os isn't compatible with wp7 on app level". Honestly, that would be the most ridiculous move MS could make in the whole WP existence.
That would be so stupid that I refuse to believe it. Unless WP8 had to run WP7 in some kind of sideloaded enviroment and even then why would MS scrap and start over again?
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Windows Phone 7 development uses XAML from Silver Light. Microsoft is dumping Silver Light. Perhaps Eldar misunderstood and thought they were getting rid of XAML and the development tools of Visual Studio 2010 for Windows Phone 8.
http://everythingexpress.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/news-microsoft-kills-silverlight/
Also, it is possible that the apps will all need to be retargeted and recompiled to take advantage of any OS benefits of Windows Phone 8. This was true of Mango to get the fast resume. All a dev needed to do is upgrade the SDK. Change the target platform in the project. Then rebuild. Done.
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Am I misreading or is everyone else.
NVidia and Microsoft said Windows Phone 7 apps will be natively compatible with Windows 8 the PC OS.
What Eldar is suggesting is "WP8 os isn't compatible with wp7 on app level". Honestly, that would be the most ridiculous move MS could make in the whole WP existence.
That would be so stupid that I refuse to believe it. Unless WP8 had to run WP7 in some kind of sideloaded enviroment and even then why would MS scrap and start over again?
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Hmm....Windows Mobile? Besides its not like they would be losing much by starting over again.
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vetvito said:
Hmm....Windows Mobile? Besides its not like they would be losing much by starting over again.
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They'd lose support from the developers of the existing 60k apps for sure. Not allowing WP7 apps to run on WP8 would be suicide. That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see the development environment change to something closer to Windows 8. I just think we'll see compatibility for WP7 apps as well.
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They'd lose support from the developers of the existing 60k apps for sure. Not allowing WP7 apps to run on WP8 would be suicide. That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see the development environment change to something closer to Windows 8. I just think we'll see compatibility for WP7 apps as well.
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I like the idea jvt put forward up there better.... recompile and carry on. It would on the other hand be a very effective weeding out process to trim down from 50000 redundant /replicative apps to ones that are solid and usable.
Silverlight is .net and the .net libs are platform independent. That means that 90% of your code is reusable either way. The goal is that you can take a shared library that contains your program logic and copy it from your windows pc to your phone without having to recompile or anything. The only thing that then needs rewriting is the user interface lib which must then take advantage of the underlying shared API. Infact it could even be that this is already the case. Either way anything in the future would only require little effort to sort out and if any w8 windows phone convergence happens that does cause incompatability, the mass amount of windows 8 support would be enough to make it neglible.
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Silverlight is .net and the .net libs are platform independent. That means that 90% of your code is reusable either way. The goal is that you can take a shared library that contains your program logic and copy it from your windows pc to your phone without having to recompile or anything. The only thing that then needs rewriting is the user interface lib which must then take advantage of the underlying shared API. Infact it could even be that this is already the case. Either way anything in the future would only require little effort to sort out and if any w8 windows phone convergence happens that does cause incompatability, the mass amount of windows 8 support would be enough to make it neglible.
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Not entirely true. .NET libs are not entirely platform independant. Ever write an app for you phone in C# and try to run it on your PC. Or write it for you PC and run it on your Phone. It doesn't work.
Phones use a compact dot net framework. Windows Phone 8, might supply an updated compact version. This may be incompatible with the previous version, just as the version on Windows Phone 7 is not compatible with the 3.5 version on Windows Mobile 6.5.
In fact, Windows 8 For Tablets is supposed to be getting WinRT.
Here is a negative slanting article, but seems pretty accurate with some exceptions.
http://www.i-programmer.info/profes...3323-windows-phone-7-sunk-by-silverlight.html
I suspect the tablets will also support a dot net compact framework for some time to come.
I've heard from multiple reliable sources at work and through different training companies that Silverlight is done. Development with it is just for phones (for now).
I am hoping they provide some XAML migration, so apps can be easily converted.
Actually, when reading the comments following the video here: http://www.neowin.net/news/former-microsoft-pm-silverlight-is-dead
XAML is coming to C++. With WinRT, C++ and native programming will be in Windows 8 on tablets.
XAML is the mark up language ued by Silverlight. Silverlight uses C#. But, since the programmer uses XAML to define the UI and Silverlight is used to glue it to the C# backend, something else could easily tie the XAML to the backend, so a minimal amount of work would be needed to to rebuild the apps affter Silver Light goes off into the sunset.
What MS meant was Windows 8, not Windows Phone 8. WP8 is, of course, an upgrade of WP7.
They said this because initially they said that crossing apps between windows 8 and phone 8 was possible.
For the folks that though Microsoft might break compatibility for existing apps, a tweet from Brandon Watson
@eldarmurtazin Rewatch Mix11 keynote. We were pretty clear on this. Any app built today will run on next major Windows Phone version.
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Here is the link to the same http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2012...paign=Feed:+Mobiletechworld+(MobileTechWorld)
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Sigh... Sometimes I just wish Eldar would let his age old hate against MS aside and try digging up some useful information...
He's been such a douché since MS wouldn't let him run the official MS Russia site...
is apollo confirmed as wp7 1gen upgrade ? Or it will be designed for high ends ?
The following letter was written by one of Hong Kong WP lovers. After posting for minutes. There're already 2000 votes. If you want Microsoft to Bring new features of WP8 that can be supported by WP7.5 hardware to WP7.8, please support our works! Join us! Speak Loudly to Microsoft!!
and here's the jointly letter (link re-newed) Please delete space!! :
http : //windowsphone.uservoice.co m/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/suggestions/2945071-bring-new-features-of-wp8-that-can-be-supported-by
and Here's the letter(by Simon Luk @ WeLoveWP.HK Administrator) :
20th June, 2012 has been one of the darkest days in the history of Windows Phone.
On 20th June, 2012, Microsoft announced Windows Phone 8, the next generation Windows Phone platform. At the same time, Microsoft broke the bad news to existing Windows Phone users – WP8 will not be available for existing WP devices to upgrade. Instead, Microsoft showed their “commitment” to current WP users by delivering WP7.8, which is just basically WP7.5 with the whole new Start Screen of WP8.
Are current users satisfied? Furious WP users are shouting in the Internet. Microsoft, what do you think?
Microsoft, you might think that the existing WP user base is just so small, so you can dumb us anytime you think it’s appropriate. You might think making current WP users angry is no big deal because WP8 must make a huge success, attracting all the consumers to buy your devices. Please, Microsoft, stop and think. Who are the existing WP users? We, the current WP users, are your loyal customers and fans. What you are doing with WP7.8 - barely adding a new Start Screen – is just an insult to us.
Being WP fans, we know that WP8 needs a new kernel. We absolutely understand the fact that our existing devices cannot get WP8 due to huge work for kernel and drivers re-writing. On the new kernel for WP8, we, WP fans, are totally on your side. I am sure most of the existing users, who wish WP having a better future, can accept the fact that WP8 apps cannot be supported in WP7.8 due to kernel incompatibility issues. However, it does not mean that it justifies for WP7.8 just having the new Start Screen of WP8.
Although they are still not officially announced, many features of WP8, including IE10, Skydrive Integration, Xbox Music & Video, DataSmart, whole-new range of languages and IME supports, etc, have been revealed by different parties. Many existing WP users will love to have these new features on their WP7.8 devices. We believe that some of the above features do not require high grade hardware. Indeed, Microsoft, we can assure you that you will **** most if not all WP users off, if you deliberately leave these “upgradable” features off from our WP7.8 devices.
We are your loyal WP supporters. We were always happy to introduce our friends to buy WP7.5 devices. Provided that WP7.8 only brings the new Start Screen without other new features from WP8 which are supported by existing hardware, we just cannot help but tell our dear friends – Do not buy a WP. Word of mouth is of paramount importance in selling smartphones. Please do not embarrass us and yourself. Act quickly and give confidence to the existing WP users; and we will let the whole world know WP is always worth buying.
Microsoft, please bring new features of WP8 that are supported by existing WP7.5 hardware to WP7.8. Do not let your loyal WP fans down.
Simon Luk
Administrator
WeLoveWP.HK
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thx for your support!!
You drop the f bomb and think someone is going to take you seriously?
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You drop the f bomb and think someone is going to take you seriously?
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It's not the OP, you do know that?
Also, it would read a word starting with a "p" here.
Though I'm not a WP user, I fully support this cause and hope that you'll be able to make this work out!
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I support
Totally support.
For the lazy ones:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...-new-features-of-wp8-that-can-be-supported-by
Also: Signed!
yep.. should support!!
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For the lazy ones:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...-new-features-of-wp8-that-can-be-supported-by
Also: Signed!
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Took 3 votes from somewhere else and gave it to this. Great idea!
Oh cry me a river! Microsoft hasn't released any details regarding what WP8 features are going to be on 7.8 and you're all going ape-****. Calm down and at least wait for an official statement from Microsoft. Threatening to tell others not to buy Windows Phones, seriously? Based on what? Internet chatter? That letter by Simon Luk looks like a letter to Paul McCartney begging him not to quit the Beatles. I think this community is better than that so please, practice some restraint.
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Oh cry me a river! Microsoft hasn't released any details regarding what WP8 features are going to be on 7.8 and you're all going ape-****. Calm down and at least wait for an official statement from Microsoft. Threatening to tell others not to buy Windows Phones, seriously? Based on what? Internet chatter? That letter by Simon Luk looks like a letter to Paul McCartney begging him not to quit the Beatles. I think this community is better than that so please, practice some restraint.
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This.
Pretty sure the admin from WeLoveWP.HK is correct in that 7.8 only gets new tile sizes. On the other hand, it is unlikely that this petition will convince Microsoft to add additional features for current generation phones.
I do hope somebody will come up with an acceptable solution. Microsoft is not in a good enough position to anger its userbase as it is not that big to begin with.
I provided my 3 votes, even though I switched to Android from WP7 a few months ago. I kinda guessed the new kernel meant that the current Mango phones weren't going to get upgraded.
Honestly, a whole OS upgrade isn't necessary for the phones, as long as some kind of incentive program could be available to encourage devs to attempt to make apps that weren't hardware-limited to run on both WP8 and WP7. Stuff like Instagram, Flipboard, simple games, etc.
Edit: Oh, and one thing that would've made me stick with WP7 longer would have been a simple Webkit-compatible browser. Half the mobile websites I visited wouldn't display properly because the browser didn't support Webkit. Extremely annoying.
We don't even know if the start screen is all that's in 7.8... We don't know all the features in Apollo, so how would we know all of them in 7.8? There's still a lot of time until the release.
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already voted with 6 votes.
thanks in advance
Signed too ! Please post it on Facebook and tweeter !!! !!!
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...has any of you guys got any confirmed information about the final content of update WP7.8 and which devices are going to get it or not? No? Then don't you think that this kind of action is a bit premature and a bit stupid?
All,
I'd like to give this an honest shot.
I've created an online petition to encourage/ask/beg Microsoft to provide a mechanism to allow developers and hobbyists to develop/port/use desktop software on Windows RT 8/8.1. The future of Windows RT is very uncertain right now and Microsoft would do well to open up the platform.
Once I get 500 (or more) signatures, I'll send this to contacts at Microsoft.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/windows-rt-desktop
Please help out. Share and tweet if you can.
Cheers,
bfostejr
Honest question here: Do you think a company as big and bull headed as MS would listen to something like this? I'm hoping that they do, of course, but most giants like them seem to make a big decision and stick with it. They would probably feel like they are just giving one of their products away to the world.
Well, It met its goal
te5ter said:
Well, It met its goal
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And the response from MS is the same.
jordanmills said:
And the response from MS is the same.
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What response? Or is that the point?
Does anyone know if the petition was sent to Microsoft yet?
domboy said:
What response? Or is that the point?
Does anyone know if the petition was sent to Microsoft yet?
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No response, that's what I mean.
Microsoft has released some things to the open source community, but I think RT is unlikely since it is still a supported OS. That said, supported doesn't mean fully embraced.
cleonti said:
Microsoft has released some things to the open source community, but I think RT is unlikely since it is still a supported OS. That said, supported doesn't mean fully embraced.
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There is 0% chance they will release the RT source, as it's the same source that Windows uses.