Hi,
I wonder what will be the differences between the Desire and the Supersonic.
As far as I know the Supersonic is the same as the Desire but has the 4.3" screen like the HD2 has had. Ans the over all design may differ.
So did you here some more differences between them two?
And when does the Supersonic come? I heard in summer, maybe june?!
And more RAM/ROM, each with 1gb
I heard also that they'll come out in the summertime.
I just get what is available at the time.. I.e when the iPhone 3gs came out I gave that a go.. Gave that up for the HD2.. Will be changing from the HD2 to the desire... Next will either be Supersonic? or Possible next iPhone??? Unless something more interesting arrives in the mean time.. Guess its a bit like PC's... You could always be waiting for the next best thing the way smart phones are going at the moment..
Then go for the HTC Scorpion/Olympian in Q3 2010. With dual-core snapdragon 1.5Ghz
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/htc-scorpion-with-1-5ghz-snapdragon-wimax-tipped-in-build-file/
Qualcomm details:
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The single-chip, dual-CPU QSD8672™ includes most of the above features, in addition to:
* Dual CPUs, up to 1.5 GHz for faster response and processing
* Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
* Higher-resolution WSXGA ([B]1440 x 900[/B]) display support
* High-definition (1080p) video recording and playback
* Support for HSPA+ networks - 28 Mbps downloads and 11 Mbps uploads
* Supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B networks
* Improved 3D graphics - up to 80M triangles/sec and 500M+ 3D pixels/sec
Yeah as far as I know it has a 4.3 inch screen and maybe some more RAM and ROM. I have an 4.3 inch screen now, which has pro's and con's. IMO the perfect screen would be between 3.7 and 4.0 inch..
The supersonic is probably going to be more expensive as well. I would go for the desire.
@XDA mark.
Can you say a little bit more about the screen size?
Whats the downside for you of a 4.3"?
i hope verizon gets one of these high powered phones
Polarfuchs said:
Then go for the HTC Scorpion/Olympian in Q3 2010. With dual-core snapdragon 1.5Ghz
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/htc-scorpion-with-1-5ghz-snapdragon-wimax-tipped-in-build-file/
Qualcomm details:
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The single-chip, dual-CPU QSD8672™ includes most of the above features, in addition to:
* Dual CPUs, up to 1.5 GHz for faster response and processing
* Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
* Higher-resolution WSXGA ([B]1440 x 900[/B]) display support
* High-definition (1080p) video recording and playback
* Support for HSPA+ networks - 28 Mbps downloads and 11 Mbps uploads
* Supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B networks
* Improved 3D graphics - up to 80M triangles/sec and 500M+ 3D pixels/sec
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Great scott, that is mighty powerful. If this is true, my next phone will have a better display than my 15.6'' vaio laptop.
Polarfuchs said:
@XDA mark.
Can you say a little bit more about the screen size?
Whats the downside for you of a 4.3"?
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Sorry to but in. I've owned the HD2 as well. The 4.3" is awesome to use but it is a fraction on the big side (and I have large hands). You will need deep pockets or a purse.
After a month, I was used to it and it felt perfectly natural. Having said that, I think I agree with the sentiment that 3.7" - 4.0" is the sweet spot.
So does the Supersonic come to Germany?
If it really is a Wimax device I sadly think : "No".
Because Germany doesn't get wimax but LTE.
Source:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/wimax-enabled-htc-supersonic-rumored-to-debut-on-sprint-at-ctia/
Polarfuchs said:
So does the Supersonic come to Germany?
If it really is a Wimax device I sadly think : "No".
Because Germany doesn't get wimax but LTE.
Source:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/wimax-enabled-htc-supersonic-rumored-to-debut-on-sprint-at-ctia/
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The Supersonic looks like its going to Sprint. They use CDMA, so it wont be coming to Europe at all. I was so disappointed when i found this out, but i moved on to the Desire..
Yeah if thats the truth I will get a Desire too (silver or brown? )
silver looks really good, but i think ima stick with brown.
Polarfuchs said:
@XDA mark.
Can you say a little bit more about the screen size?
Whats the downside for you of a 4.3"?
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Sure.
First of all, 4.3'' screen means BIG phone. It is just a tiny bit to large to stay 'naturally' in your hand. When you have 2 hands available and you are not moving it is not such a big problem, but when only having one hand and on the move it can be 'not pleasant'. So again, nothing that is really bad, but it is not perfect either.
4.3'' inch screen with 480x800 resolution also is not as sharp as 3.7 inch and the same resolution. Not that the HD2's screen is not amazing though.
Overall what I am trying to say is: it is nice to have a 4.3'' inch screen, but somehow I feel it is not needed. The iPhone's screen is now tiny for me, and I feel that is TOO small. But I asume 3.7'' is just fine. I really think at the moment 3.7 to 4.0 inch is the perfect size, for the current operating system's and applications made for them.
Hope this clears up what I was talking about
To not forget that 4.3 inch screen can be very nice sometimes: Browsing and watching movies is off course better on such a large screen!
Polarfuchs said:
Then go for the HTC Scorpion/Olympian in Q3 2010. With dual-core snapdragon 1.5Ghz
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/htc-scorpion-with-1-5ghz-snapdragon-wimax-tipped-in-build-file/
Qualcomm details:
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The single-chip, dual-CPU QSD8672™ includes most of the above features, in addition to:
* Dual CPUs, up to 1.5 GHz for faster response and processing
* Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
* Higher-resolution WSXGA ([B]1440 x 900[/B]) display support
* High-definition (1080p) video recording and playback
* Support for HSPA+ networks - 28 Mbps downloads and 11 Mbps uploads
* Supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B networks
* Improved 3D graphics - up to 80M triangles/sec and 500M+ 3D pixels/sec
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Dual 1.5GHz CPU?? The battery will have to be the size of a small African Nation to get more than a few hours use from it?
wankingweiner said:
The Supersonic looks like its going to Sprint. They use CDMA, so it wont be coming to Europe at all. I was so disappointed when i found this out, but i moved on to the Desire..
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There is also a special T-Mobile US Version of HD2... I think the Supersonic
will come to europe with other bands used over here... HTC dont produces
such a nice phone and miss the chance to make much money....
StuMcBill said:
Dual 1.5GHz CPU?? The battery will have to be the size of a small African Nation to get more than a few hours use from it?
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Indeed I don't see why we would need that much power from our phones. The Desire should be powerful enough, and we can leave dual-core CPUs for our laptops.
Yeah but the Supersonic with 1Ghz and 4.3" Screen would be a good alternativ with a bigger screen for the Desire.
They did announce it yesterday as Sprint HTC EVO 4g and I hope it gets to Germany/Europe.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/htc-evo-4g-is-sprints-android-powered-knight-in-superphone-armo/
Knowing the way HTC likes to play mix and match with it's phones I would not pt it past them to release a 3G GSM version of the supersonic, though obviously it would be called something else.
Baldyman1966 said:
Knowing the way HTC likes to play mix and match with it's phones I would not pt it past them to release a 3G GSM version of the supersonic, though obviously it would be called something else.
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yeah im waiting for the day. Glad this happened becuase i was about to buy the Desire, but i'll see what materializes first
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Hi,
Compared to the other phones, how good is the GPU on the Desire?
How many triangles per sec can it do?
Does anyone know?
The Snapdragon Processor (QSD8250- Desire's processor) does 22 million triangles per second
irkan said:
The Snapdragon Processor (QSD8250- Desire's processor) does 22 million triangles per second
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And it's GPU(not CPU) is slower for about 25% than iPhone's 3Gs
benko286 said:
And it's GPU(not CPU) is slower for about 25% than iPhone's 3Gs
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the "GPU" comes with the Qualcomm SnapDragon Chip-set (processor). its not a stand alone unit!!
I thought I read somewhere that there was a dedicated GPU on it.
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html#specs
Technical Features for QSD8x50 chipsets
The QSD8x50 platform consists of the QSD8250™ which supports GSM, GPRS, EDGE, HSPA networks while the QSD8650™ supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B, GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks. Both chipsets include:
1 GHz CPU
600MHz DSP
Integrated 3G mobile broadband
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Built-in seventh-generation gpsOne® engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
High-definition (720p) video decode, and multiple video codec support
High-performance 3D graphics – up to 22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec
High-resolution up to WXGA (1280x720) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Windows Mobile®, Android, and a number of Linux®-based operating systems
Qualcomm’s hybrid mode alternative solution
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irkan said:
the "GPU" comes with the Qualcomm SnapDragon Chipest (processor). its not a stand alone unit!!
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Yeah but it's slower than iPhone's...
Dont worry, even if it is a bit slower, you dot a lot more
- sd card
- multitasking
- customization
- etc.
benko286 said:
Yeah but it's slower than iPhone's...
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http://androidandme.com/2010/03/new...bird-chip-to-have-3x-gpu-power-of-snapdragon/
...
Here is a GPU comparison for some of the leading smartphones:
* Motorola Droid: TI OMAP3430 with PowerVR SGX530 = 7 million(?) triangles/sec
* Nexus One: Qualcomm QSD8×50 with Adreno 200 = 22 million triangles/sec
* iPhone 3G S: 600 MHz Cortex-A8 with PowerVR SGX535 = 28 million triangles/sec
* Samsung Galaxy S: S5PC110 with PowerVR SGX540 = 90 million triangles/sec
...
benko286 said:
Yeah but it's slower than iPhone's...
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Yes It's slower but what do you want to do with this phone - to play Crysis on it ? I think that all games will works smooth and fine.
Haha ... nice one
Btw, do you like "indomie" ?
Indomitable said:
Yes It's slower but what do you want to do with this phone - to play Crysis on it ? I think that all games will works smooth and fine.
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http://androidandme.com/2010/03/new...bird-chip-to-have-3x-gpu-power-of-snapdragon/
...
Here is a GPU comparison for some of the leading smartphones:
* Motorola Droid: TI OMAP3430 with PowerVR SGX530 = 7 million(?) triangles/sec
* Nexus One: Qualcomm QSD8×50 with Adreno 200 = 22 million triangles/sec
* iPhone 3G S: 600 MHz Cortex-A8 with PowerVR SGX535 = 28 million triangles/sec
* Samsung Galaxy S: S5PC110 with PowerVR SGX540 = 90 million triangles/sec
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I just don't know How they make these tests here it's an article that says
iPhone 3GS makes only 5.2 million triangles
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2349515,00.asp
and the link in glbenchmark
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=glpro11&showhide=true&D1=Apple iPhone 3G S
I think that bad results for HTC don't come from Snapdragon chipset but from crappy video drivers from HTC.
I want to add one more thing : This articles says :
And for comparison a few consoles:
PS3: 250 million triangles/sec
Xbox 360: 500 million triangles/sec
Xbox 360 has 2x more triangles per sec than PS3 - Do you think that it has better graphics - I don't think so .
Ooops I found another comparison : http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2557695/googles_nexus_one_vs_the_iphone_3gs.html?cat=15
Here Nexus One beats iPhone.
One iPhone's review says 28 million, other 5-7 million I don't have an iPhone I can't tell which is right but I every review says Nexus One do 22 million triangles which is better for me
desire
i have an desire and i admit it sucks. No matter how fast the cpu are the graphics simply are too poor. It cant play highresolution videos and normal videos lags. Games like assains creed and other 3d games lags too .
bestefarogjeg said:
i have an desire and i admit it sucks. No matter how fast the cpu are the graphics simply are too poor. It cant play highresolution videos and normal videos lags. Games like assains creed and other 3d games lags too .
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If a game lags its the game not your phone.
Compare Homerun 3d battle on the desire to the 3gs it looks way better on desire and runs perfectly smooth.
So I really don't think these numbers mean much.
some games like asphalt 5 got much framedrops due to poor programming of gameloft.
bestefarogjeg said:
i have an desire and i admit it sucks. No matter how fast the cpu are the graphics simply are too poor. It cant play highresolution videos and normal videos lags. Games like assains creed and other 3d games lags too .
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Haven't got a clue what is wrong with your desire but be concerned that it can't play videos smooth.. mine plays 720p mp4 videos at 10mbps without a hitch and that's not even overclocked..
The only good looking 3d games i found to work great, were those of polarbit, tried asphalt 5 from gameloft but that just was barely playable and at times not playable.
All these discussions about games, how old are you? Games is not fun and if you wanna play games you do it on your computer or a pocket device like PSP or that Nintendo DS or something.
ArtieQ said:
All these discussions about games, how old are you?
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Yes, because of course only children play games. I mean, it's not like it's a multi-billion dollar worldwide industry or that the current average age of gamers is 35 or anything. Even if that was true, who are you to tell people what they should care about or want their phone to be capable of? Your attitude here is a total disgrace and your patronising nonsense is utterly uncalled for.
ArtieQ said:
Games is not fun
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Games aren't fun? Really? Given that the entire point of a game, indeed the only reason it exists, is to create 'fun' for the user this is an amazingly stupid statement to make. It's like saying that the sky isn't blue or water isn't wet.
If you find that games aren't fun then you're doing it wrong. Or just playing crap games I suppose.
ArtieQ said:
and if you wanna play games you do it on your computer or a pocket device like PSP or that Nintendo DS or something.
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Aaand we're back to being patronising again. People can play games anywhere at any time and on any device they want, it's not up to you to dicate what devices someone should be able to use. If developers know they can come to the Android market and make money developing games then it'll attract even more support to the platform in general which helps everyone, including you; so being so dismissive of an entire aspect of software development is short-sighted as well as patronising.
Medulla said:
Aaand we're back to being patronising again. People can play games anywhere at any time and on any device they want, it's not up to you to dicate what devices someone should be able to use. If developers know they can come to the Android market and make money developing games then it'll attract even more support to the platform in general which helps everyone, including you; so being so dismissive of an entire aspect of software development is short-sighted as well as patronising.
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Your missing the entire point, you cant buy a mobile phone and moan that its 3d graphics capability is below par, abviously when quallcomm made the snapdragon, its 3D processing ability was made for programming not gaming, more to run 3D ui's and what not, otherwise they would of included a dedicated gpu and vram, so the above point still stands, if you wana play games on the move buy a ds or psp not a mobile phone lol
found this on gsm arena on the table of phones is the HTC HD3 name HTC HD7 maybe a windows 7 phone ??
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-hd7-to-launch-in-october-it’s-a-renamed-hd3/
found this on pocketnow
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-hd3-hd7-rumored-again-features-amazing-spec-sheet
Nice looks great i also hope the desire HD has I 1.5ghz dragon inside
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771580
Almost too good to be true... I'd love to have a WXGA (1280x720) screen resolution!
Do you guys really think of dual-core arm 1,5 ghz cpu?
ne0cr0n said:
found this on pocketnow
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-hd3-hd7-rumored-again-features-amazing-spec-sheet
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10char
-=n3rd=- said:
Do you guys really think of dual-core arm 1,5 ghz cpu?
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Old news: http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Sna...bile-CPU-war-beyond-1GHz-article-a_12546.html
So, where is it? Can't be that it hasn't been leaked if the release is so soon.
I spotted this a few days ago as well... I am not sure what to make of it as the info for it is rather scarce and tbh anyone can make a spreadsheet like that... and say it is an official "leaked" document from HTC...
I remain skeptic on this issue. If anyone can confirm this to be true, I will personally make an article for the front page for it.
4.5 inches? I'm not too sure if I would go for something that big.
3.8", yes. But don't people find 4.3" and up to be a little bit too big? Its like a mini-tablet.
Also, I was reading that article on the CPUs. Will you need a graphics chip in your phone in order to play high-quality 3D games or will a 1.2 ghz core 2 duo be able to handle that?
My plan expires this winter, so I am looking almost frantically for the perfect phone with dual cores and awesome performance and all that . (best time for my plan to expire)
4.3 is fine. Not sure about "and up". 3.5 is too small.
theomni said:
4.5 inches? I'm not too sure if I would go for something that big.
3.8", yes. But don't people find 4.3" and up to be a little bit too big? Its like a mini-tablet.
Also, I was reading that article on the CPUs. Will you need a graphics chip in your phone in order to play high-quality 3D games or will a 1.2 ghz core 2 duo be able to handle that?
My plan expires this winter, so I am looking almost frantically for the perfect phone with dual cores and awesome performance and all that . (best time for my plan to expire)
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The bigger the better - I think I can go as high as 5". I've actually been looking at tablets myself. Right now I'm trying it all on for size: I have a travel laptop, an alienware laptop (it's not what I would call airplane portable, but I can take my desktop with me if I want to, and I do want to ), an iPad, and my phone.
Ultimately, I'd like it to be the phone and the mongo-laptop - so a bigger screen would be better. There are just some things / situations that lend themselves better to each of the 4 devices as they are right now.
As for the GPU - it's already in the 1.2 dual core chips (they are a System On a Chip - SOC). And yes, I think it's needed for the best 3D rendering but I'm not an expert
I'd like to have it.. only if..
Hmm.. spotted this in Google when looking for Win Phone 7 info.
Definitely, the spec is too good to be true.
One thing is that *no* GPS was mentioned in any of the posts..
But if I have to choose, I'd like to have GPS over HDMI..
Also, it seems Win Phone 7 still do not include multi-language input..
That means if I buy this phone, I'll have to search the Google again for JPN+Korean+Chinese input again, not to mention that it is highly possible to hard-reset the mobile for million times
I believe that 1800 mAh is not enough. HD3 will need to charge two times daily.
Cant beleive people here are falling for this BS:
http://nak-design.over-blog.fr/pages/HTC_HD3_by_NAK_-2727167.html
efjay said:
Cant beleive people here are falling for this BS:
http://nak-design.over-blog.fr/pages/HTC_HD3_by_NAK_-2727167.html
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Only some - that has been floating around since, what, February this year? Something like that
ne0cr0n said:
found this on pocketnow
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-hd3-hd7-rumored-again-features-amazing-spec-sheet
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It's a french blogger that made that more than 6 months ago.....
Worse still - news yesterday was that even though Qualcom is shipping the 1.5 GHz dual core chips later this year, they wont make it into devices until mid to late next year. So, you can pretty much bet that the HD7 will not be 1.5GHz, if it is released this year.
eknutson said:
Worse still - news yesterday was that even though Qualcom is shipping the 1.5 GHz dual core chips later this year, they wont make it into devices until mid to late next year. So, you can pretty much bet that the HD7 will not be 1.5GHz, if it is released this year.
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For those of us with HD2s, there is little motivation to move to a WP7 then. The 1.5ghz units will probably sport a better version of WP7 anyways.
I don't see why not, since this chinese company is already doing it with their phone! C'mon HTC, quit falling behind!
http://www.chinitech.com/en/2010/te...uvelle-photo-et-support-du-hdmi-1-3-confirme/
Here is all the specifications:
* M9 Dimensions: 59,5 mm x 113 mm x 11,4 mm
* M9II Dimensions: 64mm x 122 mm x 9,?mm
* Networks: WCDMA, CDMA, TD-SCDMA
* Screen: M9 3,5″ 960×640 et M9II 4″ 1024×640
* Multitouch 10 fingers
* Processor: 1 GHz (Samsung S5PC110)
* Memory: 512 MB ROM / 512 MB RAM
* Operating System: Android OS 2.1
* Camera: 5 megapixels
* Connectivity: Bluetooth / WiFi / GPS / TV-out (HDMI 1.3)
* Memory Expansion: Micro SD / TF
* Battery: 1350 mAh
* Price: about $325 (without headphone) and $365 (including headphone and a 8Gb Memory card)
Meh...unimpressed.
Those specs are pretty much the expected standard for 2010 android smartphones. I agree with Nate, not impressed.
phatmanxxl said:
Those specs are pretty much the expected standard for 2010 android smartphones. I agree with Nate, not impressed.
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Really "expected standard"? What smartphones on the market today sport 10-finger multi touch and 1024x640 display?
Neo3D said:
Really "expected standard"? What smartphones on the market today sport 10-finger multi touch and 1024x640 display?
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Have to agree with not very impressed. Good luck using all 10 of your fingers at once. Some things are overkill to me...
Do you really think there will be an "evo 2"?
deathsled said:
Do you really think there will be an "evo 2"?
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The G2 will be out for the holidays, why not an EVO2
A 5mp camera??? I don't believe this one bit!
10 fingers.... lol. That almost seems like BS to me. It's pointless. Seems like manufacturers are trying to squeeze any inane feature into their phone to make it seems like it's the "next" big thing.
Do we really need a higher resolution with the same screen sizes? Everything we have now looks great at the current resolution. Maybe someone can explain the benefits of increasing the resolution?
what requires you to use 10 fingers? i cant find a single app that runs 3 point multitouch.. ... good luck with that..
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10 fingers.... lol. That almost seems like BS to me. It's pointless. Seems like manufacturers are trying to squeeze any inane feature into their phone to make it seems like it's the "next" big thing.
Do we really need a higher resolution with the same screen sizes? Everything we have now looks great at the current resolution. Maybe someone can explain the benefits of increasing the resolution?
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I would love to see a higher resolution screen. However, I wouldn't go so far as to put 1080p on a smartphone. 1280x800 seems like a practical limit. For starters, the web browsing experience would be just like a desktop web browsing experience. And you could play 720p video. And hopefully, with Gingerbread, we could fit more widgets onto our home screens.
I have a net book that's 1024x600 and even that is limiting in its use.
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what requires you to use 10 fingers? i cant find a single app that runs 3 point multitouch.. ... good luck with that..
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I use more than 3-points using Nesoid to play NES games for several games. 10-point is overkill, though, IMO.
If you scroll down the article to the latest update, it reads:
"Last update : Jack Wong has just unveiled that he will abort the old screen resolution of 780×480 and replaced it with the a new 3,5-inch screen offering a iPhone 4 like resolution of 960×640 which will be called Meizu M9. Moreover the Meizu M9II will be equipped with a 4-inch screen with a resolution of 1024×640."
The real questions are how good is the GPU and is it a real HDMI out. Processor speed and RAM is the same as the Evo. At this point, the Evo's 4.3" screen is bigger than the M9II at 4", and the Evo has a better camera, a front-facing camera, the kick-stand (which I use plenty with my SlingBox), and a lot more accessories and development. I wouldn't buy this over an Evo just for the resolution.
Well whatever the summer 2011 Sprint/Android phone is, I do believe that it'll have a higher res screen. The Adreno 220 (which comes with the dual core 1.2 GHz 45nm Snapdragons due in the first half of 2011) supports up to 1280x800 but I doubt that we'll see that in anything but tablets. On phones we'll probably see the dual core CPU down clocked to 800 MHz - 1 GHz (which would still make it a lot faster than anything on the market now) and the same 1024x640 display as on that phone. Why 1024x640? All apps would scale pretty perfectly (same ratio as 800x480).
Neo3D said:
I would love to see a higher resolution screen. However, I wouldn't go so far as to put 1080p on a smartphone. 1280x800 seems like a practical limit. For starters, the web browsing experience would be just like a desktop web browsing experience. And you could play 720p video. And hopefully, with Gingerbread, we could fit more widgets onto our home screens.
I have a net book that's 1024x600 and even that is limiting in its use.
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I disagree with a few things. Let's start with the web experience. Sure, having a desktop resolution means that you could see more of a web page... but with a 4-4.3" screen, you can't read text that small. Besides, you can just zoom out to see more. So I'm not too convinced there.
As for widgets, you can load as many as your launcher allows. HTC would fit more widgets if they were smaller. Same size as they would be if you increased the resolution but kept the same screen size. I think the limit we have now is fine simply because anything more would be really cluttered.
The Galaxy S phones can play 720p movies, but of course they are downscaled. But you still get the same level of detail. It's insane watching a 720p movie on my Epic. Can't imagine anything being sharper than that.
I mean... the iPhone 4 has a larger resolution than the iPhone 3GS... but the desktop experience is unchanged. Icons are the same size. Still need to zoom in to read small text. Etc etc...
hydralisk said:
I disagree with a few things. Let's start with the web experience. Sure, having a desktop resolution means that you could see more of a web page... but with a 4-4.3" screen, you can't read text that small. Besides, you can just zoom out to see more. So I'm not too convinced there.
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I disagree here. It's not really about seeing more, it's about the clarity of small text (which gets easier to read at higher DPI's.
The iPhone 4's display is relatively small compared to the EVO's 4.3" but even at that size the extra DPI makes smaller text more readable on the iPhone 4 than on the EVO. I should know since I own both and have perfect vision.
4.3" w/ a 1024x640 resolution would be KILLER for web browsing and e-reading.
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I don't see why not, since this chinese company is already doing it with their phone! C'mon HTC, quit falling behind!
http://www.chinitech.com/en/2010/te...uvelle-photo-et-support-du-hdmi-1-3-confirme/
Here is all the specifications:
* M9 Dimensions: 59,5 mm x 113 mm x 11,4 mm
* M9II Dimensions: 64mm x 122 mm x 9,?mm
* Networks: WCDMA, CDMA, TD-SCDMA
* Screen: M9 3,5″ 960×640 et M9II 4″ 1024×640
* Multitouch 10 fingers
* Processor: 1 GHz (Samsung S5PC110)
* Memory: 512 MB ROM / 512 MB RAM
* Operating System: Android OS 2.1
* Camera: 5 megapixels
* Connectivity: Bluetooth / WiFi / GPS / TV-out (HDMI 1.3)
* Memory Expansion: Micro SD / TF
* Battery: 1350 mAh
* Price: about $325 (without headphone) and $365 (including headphone and a 8Gb Memory card)
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lol....lol.........lol...........lol.............lol wtf omg i gets 1200p on my screenz its so useful to read texts and stuff
BrianDigital said:
lol....lol.........lol...........lol.............lol wtf omg i gets 1200p on my screenz its so useful to read texts and stuff
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What's so funny about that? 1024x640 is the widescreen version of the iPhone 4's 960x640, and it's worth it from my use.
I would hope it would be a 720p screen not some off the wall resolution like that.
im currently drooling over this little beast
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/04/sharps-is03-android-phone-packs-retina-display-minus-the-brand/
stabs said:
I would hope it would be a 720p screen not some off the wall resolution like that.
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It will take a while for smart phones to reach 720p. The DPI would be ridiculous on mid size screens.
i mean, i want a phone later on this year that has all of the above. ideally, a 4.7" screen with a 1280x720 res, SAMOLED screen, dual core, tegra2 gpu and so on.
all the above minus the higher res wouldn't be enough of an upgrade imo.
so, any higher res phones coming out? even the optimus x2 has the same res as my desire
tommo123 said:
i mean, i want a phone later on this year that has all of the above. ideally, a 4.7" screen with a 1280x720 res, SAMOLED screen, dual core, tegra2 gpu and so on.
all the above minus the higher res wouldn't be enough of an upgrade imo.
so, any higher res phones coming out? even the optimus x2 has the same res as my desire
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i doubt it, the next logical step would be for an xvga device, (1024x768) but ive never heard of one. maybe you will find one with a higher dpi, like the retina display on iphones
that's it, i want a higher res display but can't get an iphone
You have to wait.
well, my contract's not up till november so hopefully someone out there(looking at LG, they seem to be pushing hard to be successful in this area now) will decide to tick off 'higher res' to add it to a 'better than the iphone 4' list
Motorola just unveiled Atrix 4G on CES. Phone is coming to AT&T and it has 540 x 960 (qHD) resolution.
And other specs also sounds nice - dual-core processor, 1GB of RAM, 1930mAh battery...
Dual core phones are right around the corner, they'll be here before November. However you won't find a phone with a 4.7 inch screen. The biggest will be the size of the Desire HD. The market isn't really big enough for phone companies to bring out a lot of massive phones and people are happy with the size they are now.
Look out for the PS phone, i think thats a 4" dual core phone. Lots of leaks on it.
RED_ said:
Dual core phones are right around the corner, they'll be here before November. However you won't find a phone with a 4.7 inch screen. The biggest will be the size of the Desire HD. The market isn't really big enough for phone companies to bring out a lot of massive phones and people are happy with the size they are now.
Look out for the PS phone, i think thats a 4" dual core phone. Lots of leaks on it.
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NO NO NO NO NO, just looking a the PS Phone makes me think back to the nokia N Gage , plus only 24 fps in neocore lol this year is going to be all about the nvida tegra II
I was wondering when this subject might finally come up here. In spite of the current trend for flagship phones to become bigger than ever, I still think the sweet spot is somewhere between 3.5" and 4.0". I wouldn't buy anything bigger for the full retail price - I'll buy a 10" tablet and a 13" to 15" laptop instead.
Ridiculously enough we're seing 800x480 pixels anywhere, stretched up to 5.0" and even more - and they call that HD (I mean: HTC Desire HD & HTC HD2 for example. Both great devices, but come on! You call that HD?). I don't want bigger screens; I want higher DPI and superior image quality! I said the next phone I'll buy would be 3.7" device with 1280x768 pixels (that would be the next logical step for Android super phones after the iPhone 4: same aspect ratio as before but 2.5x as many pixels and HD ready for real) but it looks like I'll have to wait a long time.
Somebody please tell HTC to produce something like that. I'll buy it instantly
4.7"?? That is hugeeee.
not for me, used to holding something large in my hand
anyhoo, i tried the dell streak and found that comfortable so a 5" phone would do me tbh
Dualcored proc, at least 1.5GB internal memory, independent GPU, at least 1GB RAM, micro SDCard slot, HDMI output, 2 Cameras, flash light, better battery life, etc. etc.
Those are the specs I hope for my next android smartphone....but 4.7 inch screen is not for me...Desire HD is already a bit too big (4.3").
Dell Streak and Galaxy Tab, I hate 'em...it is just too huge for a phone
Please delete my post. Captain Obvious doesn't need to retell every story.
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On top of the above specs. The radio needs to be wcdma or 3g over all 5 bands. That is the only iPhone 4 feature that impressed me.
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I don't think that right now there is a smartphone way better than HTC Desire,so I don't see a good reason to upgrade.I'm also willing to change it.I guess we will have to wait and maybe in the summer there will be one with something like thisual-core Quallcomm with Adreno 3xx,1Gb RAM,8-16 internal memory+microsd card,front-facing camera,better battery life etc.As for the display,the one on the Desire is ok for me,I never had quality problems,and it's size is perfect(Desire HD is way too big for me,I can't hold it firmly in my hand).Overall,I don't think all these are needed,the Desire doesn't have any lag(except the latest games like Dungeon Defenders),but if they are not present then I wouldn't justify an upgrade.
Btw,tegra 2 is not a gpu,it's a dual core cpu
tegra is a gpu solution but uses a A9 cpu along with it I believe its a standard that nvidia has set to be used with their gpu
It makes no sense for nvidia to make a cpu they are a gpu company
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Motorola Atrix, will have a besster resolution. looks very interessting. also with the laptopdock. htc doesnt have anytings in this class.
This 2 phones just go leaked on one chinese website and the names are HTC Ignite and HTC Prime, looking pretty neat.
HTC Ignite equipped with the latest Windows Phone 7 mobile phone operating system, configuration 480 * 800 resolution 3.7-inch resistive touch screen, using Qualcomm 800MHz processor, RAM to 512MB, with a 500-megapixel camera with autofocus and the LED flash and other features. The phone’s fastest upstream speed 2Mbps, fast downlink speeds of 7.2Mbps. The phone design with straight overall, it is extremely sleek, bottom of the screen using the three touch buttons (ie return to the main menu, look for). The phone has always been inherited HTC simple elegant design.
HTC Prime Windows Phone 7 equipped with a mobile phone operating system, configuration, 480 * 800 resolution 3.7-inch touch screen, RAM to 512MB, with a 500-megapixel camera with auto focus and LED flash and other features. Support wi-fi, Bluetooth and other functions. In the design on this phone with sliding full QWERTY keyboard. There’s no dual-core as we can see which is kind of a shame,cause its 2011 and we expect some dual core mobile phones.
HTC Pyramid
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markomarkogame said:
This 2 phones just go leaked on one chinese website and the names are HTC Ignite and HTC Prime, looking pretty neat.
HTC Ignite equipped with the latest Windows Phone 7 mobile phone operating system, configuration 480 * 800 resolution 3.7-inch resistive touch screen, using Qualcomm 800MHz processor, RAM to 512MB, with a 500-megapixel camera with autofocus and the LED flash and other features. The phone’s fastest upstream speed 2Mbps, fast downlink speeds of 7.2Mbps. The phone design with straight overall, it is extremely sleek, bottom of the screen using the three touch buttons (ie return to the main menu, look for). The phone has always been inherited HTC simple elegant design.
HTC Prime Windows Phone 7 equipped with a mobile phone operating system, configuration, 480 * 800 resolution 3.7-inch touch screen, RAM to 512MB, with a 500-megapixel camera with auto focus and LED flash and other features. Support wi-fi, Bluetooth and other functions. In the design on this phone with sliding full QWERTY keyboard. There’s no dual-core as we can see which is kind of a shame,cause its 2011 and we expect some dual core mobile phones.
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Are you serious, or is it a typo...cheap-ass resistive touch tech??
MartyLK said:
Are you serious, or is it a typo...cheap-ass resistive touch tech??
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blame the chinesse, they got it first
800MHz processer?
I thought the minimum requirement was a 1GHz..?
Casey
Well I know I sure could use a 500 megapixel camera!
The renders also don't have the mandatory camera button and volume rocker.
Only problem is that specs are jacked up, WP7 can't have resistive touch screens, and have to have 1Ghz processor as the minimum. So while the images may be somewhat "real" either the translation is completely off, or the leak is crap.
But I would like to say that it looks nice.
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Only problem is that specs are jacked up, WP7 can't have resistive touch screens, and have to have 1Ghz processor as the minimum. So while the images may be somewhat "real" either the translation is completely off, or the leak is crap.
But I would like to say that it looks nice.
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While I agree that the WP7 experience would not be the same with resistive touch, I think the 800mhz processor could be correct. MS will likely start opening up more CPU selection, and while 800mhz may sound less powerful than the 1ghz in our phones, we know that an A9 (iPhone 4) can process circles around the 1ghz processor in our phones. So I think that while the 1ghz snapdragon in our phones is a minimum, an 800mhz A8 or A9 would still be more powerful, and therefore an upgrade. (or atleast more power efficient)
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While I agree that the WP7 experience would not be the same with resistive touch, I think the 800mhz processor could be correct. MS will likely start opening up more CPU selection, and while 800mhz may sound less powerful than the 1ghz in our phones, we know that an A9 (iPhone 4) can process circles around the 1ghz processor in our phones. So I think that while the 1ghz snapdragon in our phones is a minimum, an 800mhz A8 or A9 would still be more powerful, and therefore an upgrade. (or atleast more power efficient)
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Outstanding! Thanks for the info.
new game in the marketplace called cell requires 3 finger touch input. Don't think resistive can do that.
I don't think MS would lower the specs. I think the 1ghz is a baseline that won't change for any country.
MartyLK said:
Outstanding! Thanks for the info.
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I should clarify, which I failed to state originally, the reason why I use the processor in the iPhone 4 as an example, is because it is clocked at 800mhz, and all benchmarks point to it being more fuel efficient, and able to process more faster than the 1ghz processor being used in our WP7 devices.
While clock speed is directly tied to performance, clock speed does not compare between two different processor architectures.
nrfitchett4 said:
new game in the marketplace called cell requires 3 finger touch input. Don't think resistive can do that.
I don't think MS would lower the specs. I think the 1ghz is a baseline that won't change for any country.
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Going to an iPhone type CPU wouldn't be going down, it would be going up. The numbers don't mean anything in the real world. Look at how the new iPad2 blows away the "OMG! High-end nVidia" tech in the Xoom.
For those that don't remember, early rumors about the NoDo update suggested that it would add support for the Snapdragon MSM 7230 chipset, which is a 2nd generation snapdragon (with Adreno 205 GPU) on a 45nm process.
This is the same chipset in the T-Mobile G2. It should provide performance on par with our 1 GHz, better battery life, and a better GPU.
nrfitchett4 said:
new game in the marketplace called cell requires 3 finger touch input. Don't think resistive can do that.
I don't think MS would lower the specs. I think the 1ghz is a baseline that won't change for any country.
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Resistive actually could do that in future or even already. It has been a long time ago when there was starting to plan a resistive screen with multi touch.
Also resistive is much more accurate to receive touches. So it's not completely crap as some might say and think.
Also MS could have been lower the requirements of minimum specs. Hasn't anyone heard rumors about cheaper WP phones?
JuWa said:
Resistive actually could do that in future or even already. It has been a long time ago when there was starting to plan a resistive screen with multi touch.
Also resistive is much more accurate to receive touches. So it's not completely crap as some might say and think.
Also MS could have been lower the requirements of minimum specs. Hasn't anyone heard rumors about cheaper WP phones?
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but can you make a resistive screen that isn't plastic (aka glass). I don't think I can go back to a plastic screen.
nrfitchett4 said:
but can you make a resistive screen that isn't plastic (aka glass). I don't think I can go back to a plastic screen.
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No I guess. Thats why it is for cheaper phones, perhaps? Do you wanna go back to cheaper phones?
Well they said they are gonna make more cheap phones
markomarkogame said:
Well they said they are gonna make more cheap phones
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Yeah, and this was later clarified as meaning the phones would be cheaper due to a drop in component prices because of larger orders.
I don't see this as very likely now though with what's going on in Japan as they provide large amounts of the worlds semiconductor and LCD supply.
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Yeah, and this was later clarified as meaning the phones would be cheaper due to a drop in component prices because of larger orders.
I don't see this as very likely now though with what's going on in Japan as they provide large amounts of the worlds semiconductor and LCD supply.
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I imagine the price would already be fixed and supplied from South Korea
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I imagine the price would already be fixed and supplied from South Korea
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??
Prices change daily on core components like these and as there are no stock levels (the industry relies on JIT - meaning your stock is basically always in transit and arrives just in time for when you need it) any manufacturer relying on Japanese components are **** out of luck at the moment.