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Why is WM 6.1 so damn SLOW?

Hey,
Every WM 6.1 ROM I installed is really slow in reaction and menu.
K's rom for WM 6.0 is so much faster.
I want to use WM 6.1 but its just so slow.
Is that everyones experience ?
What am I doing wrong?

Why don't you post your issues/problems on the specific WM6.1 rom thread you have tried. Maybe you can get advice on how to resolve your problem/issues.
I've tried all WM6.1 roms out there, and i would say they're all faster than the WM6 roms i've used before.

I would agree with greatbal, used a number of WM6.1 ROMs and they're all quicker than WM6

I tried a couple WM6.1 roms and ended up going back to K's roms.
I tried CKC's and Pays WM 6.1 and they are very slow compared to K's so I just gave up and going to stick with WM 6.
WM 6.1 doesn't have anything special to it anyways...

I've used all of K's ROMs and currently using CRC's 6.1 ROM. My impression is that the 6.1 is a little faster than K's. However, I can't say that feature-wise, one is better than the other. I could easily go back to K's ROM without loosing functionalilty.
My ROM selection is based on what is included (or not included) in the total package, which is cook specific.

6.1 vs 6.0
My own experience, based on the few 6.1 roms I've tried, is similar to exxi and esmith. I haven't seen the boost in either performance or functionality that others comment on.
My two cents.
Regards,

exxi said:
Hey,
Every WM 6.1 ROM I installed is really slow in reaction and menu.
K's rom for WM 6.0 is so much faster.
I want to use WM 6.1 but its just so slow.
Is that everyones experience ?
What am I doing wrong?
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Slow?I don`t agree.I`ve tried a few WM 6.1 and they were all pretty faster than the fastest WM 6.0.Only problem is they are not yet very stable.Hardreset and a few other issues.So maybe you should stick with WM6.0 for now.

Hi I just changed ROM from Original HTC 6.0 to 6.1 and I have to say it really seems to be slower... Whats the problem?

The problem's probably just that we're all working with very ealy versions of 6.1. When the chefs with the most in-depth knowledge of how to combine the given files with the most suitable and useful drivers and other bits and pieces I've no doubt most of us will find 6.1 better.
I've played with some 6.1s but for now 6.0 is generally more stable.
Until then, I still use mattk_r's compilation of 6.0 with 3.60 ROM.

I do think that "speed" depends more of free memory than OS. I've tried a lot of WM 6.1 and some are very fast, as the one I'm playing with now .

hi guys, i also agree with greatbal. I am on wm6.1, it is faster than wm6.
Especially on Core Player movie playback. stable and smooth.
For boot up speed, actually we can disable startup animation of HTC logo or something with schaps advance config, it will save about 5-8 seconds.

People on WM 6.1 that are finding it faster are you using anything (hacks, reg edits, etc...) for speed boosts of any kind?
One person said they found CRC's WM 6.1 faster than K's but I found it slower than K's...

esmith said:
People on WM 6.1 that are finding it faster are you using anything (hacks, reg edits, etc...) for speed boosts of any kind?
One person said they found CRC's WM 6.1 faster than K's but I found it slower than K's...
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I've used CRC's and Schaps Beta...I'm now using Pays 3.05 Lite...and it is VERY Fast and VERY stable...no speed hacks...no registry tweaks outside that are found in HTCustom.
Jim

greatbal;2016170 said:
I've tried all WM6.1 roms out there, and i would say they're all faster than the WM6 roms i've used before.
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....untill they crash.

Faria
I had pays rom, and I think it was very slow and I need to frequently charge my battery. Now I am running on faria r32 and it is great. Stable and very fast. Only Internet explorer is little bit slower.

thegreenest said:
I had pays rom, and I think it was very slow and I need to frequently charge my battery. Now I am running on faria r32 and it is great. Stable and very fast. Only Internet explorer is little bit slower.
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What radio are you using? I'm using Pays 3.05 and Radio 1.47...and I get excellent battery life...and the ROM seems snappy and responsive...and I have alot of programs running.
Jim

Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
What radio are you using? I'm using Pays 3.05 and Radio 1.47...and I get excellent battery life...and the ROM seems snappy and responsive...and I have alot of programs running.
Jim
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I use 1.54.30.10 radio. Circa a week I use faria and my battery is better than was on Schaps. (cca two days, but I everyday listen music with bth a2dp and browsing net with wifi). With pays I had to charge battery everyday, now I have to every two days at night).

6.1 is good if you like your ROMs lite. The more 3rd party apps, the slower, and buggier things get.
Most 3rd party apps weren't made to work perfectly with an unrealesed ver. of WM.

Fast for synching
exxi said:
Hey, Every WM 6.1 ROM I installed is really slow in reaction and menu.
Is that everyones experience ?
What am I doing wrong?
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I use CRC's ROM, very stable, very fast, especially for synching with ActiveSync!

I tried a few ROMs now and in my experience the WM6.1s I tried are all quicker in response than the WM6 versions. However, it does depend *alot* on the apps you load into them. Some apps have problems with WM6.1 and also the free resources of your Hermes do matter.
Try a light ROM and install nothing for starters, then step by step move your preferred apps in. You will notice the difference.
My two cents..

The fastest rom for Hermes

Ok i m sick of downloading and installing slow roms
My device is htc tytn
can someone who has tried most of the roms for hermes tell me whats the fastest one?(with link please )
tnxxx

arshiahirbod said:
Ok i m sick of downloading and installing slow roms
My device is htc tytn
can someone who has tried most of the roms for hermes tell me whats the fastest one?(with link please )
tnxxx
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Thats a matter of opinion, but for me, the two that are the fastest are:
CRC v12.9 (use it myself)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392996
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364216
Try using a 8meg PP for faster speed, and using the tweaks in sSchaps Advanced config (cache settings).
Also, using HTC Home always seems to slow my roms down, I just use Samsung time.

In my opinion, Schaps 4.40 beta is the fastest!

I just tried them both but the one i had was alittle bit faster
try schaps its the most complete rom so far.

PDACornerPro is very fast and stable. The Chef is also very helpful.

This is a little bit offtopic but... is Schap still developing for the Hermes?
I've been away for a while, still getting info out of the forum (loads to read )
Thanks

which ones have u tried? what apps did u install? which apps do u load & run simaltaneously? what tweeks have u performed?
For me all the recent chefs lite wm6.1 6mb pp are very fast!

arshiahirbod said:
I just tried them both but the one i had was alittle bit faster
try schaps its the most complete rom so far.
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Thats a WM6 rom, in the most part they are a bit faster, but have less features, its also a very old rom.
With CRC v12.9 you will need to do the cache size tweeks (for the naked ones anyway) they make it a lot faster.
Anyway, just flash all the roms you can, that's what i did, then stoped on the one that worked for me.
Flashaholic, and a good few days without a flash, i can feel the withdraw pains

i am happy
with my signature, can you define a 'slow rom' until you can define what's 'slow' and what's 'fast' none of us can really help.
Edit also, after trying two roms? and you're sick already? geez, I flashed 30 different roms before I decided where to go. you need to do the same, unfortunately.

zocster said:
with my signature, can you define a 'slow rom' until you can define what's 'slow' and what's 'fast' none of us can really help.
Edit also, after trying two roms? and you're sick already? geez, I flashed 30 different roms before I decided where to go. you need to do the same, unfortunately.
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dude i tried like 20 different roms that makes me sick but anyz
i have a game ( air hockey ) and with that i test the roms, u might think its stupid. but it really works, i can really see the difference of speeds between roms.

arshiahirbod said:
dude i tried like 20 different roms that makes me sick but anyz
i have a game ( air hockey ) and with that i test the roms, u might think its stupid. but it really works, i can really see the difference of speeds between roms.
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Hmm so out of the 20 ROMs, would you care to list, what goes the fastest with air hockey?

zocster said:
Hmm so out of the 20 ROMs, would you care to list, what goes the fastest with air hockey?
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lmao that was just a number.
like i said schaps was the best one. if u want to try the air hockey its amazing, just try it.
and the thing that pisses me off is my friend has a pocket pc ( i dont remember the brand but it wasnt as famous as htc)
his CPU: dont remember the name
Speed: 100 Mhz
Ram : same as mine
but the speed of my cpu is 400 MHz and still his air hockey works better (faster)

veyka said:
Thats a WM6 rom, in the most part they are a bit faster, but have less features, its also a very old rom.
With CRC v12.9 you will need to do the cache size tweeks (for the naked ones anyway) they make it a lot faster.
Anyway, just flash all the roms you can, that's what i did, then stoped on the one that worked for me.
Flashaholic, and a good few days without a flash, i can feel the withdraw pains
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I'm running CRC's 12.9 as well. what are the cache values that are the quickest for you?

ziadd said:
I'm running CRC's 12.9 as well. what are the cache values that are the quickest for you?
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I used the advanced config from the DU and just set it to the recommended settings, haven't had time to fiddle.

arshiahirbod said:
Ok i m sick of downloading and installing slow roms
My device is htc tytn
can someone who has tried most of the roms for hermes tell me whats the fastest one?(with link please )
tnxxx
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406421
check Dr.Puttingham fav ROM. it's got a good speed especially for gamers

for me its V19 Diamond Lite

just my 2c. i prefer to optimalized all windows funcionallity more than get a more speed, or adding some apps (coz available on cab). that's a reason why my rom very quickly on updated
and now i just fixed contact show on bottom, yahoo! go crashed, working encryption (thanks God for all). i have tried make a rom and i can't believe for speed, like a flashlight. but a minor is phone error, message error, etc
find your rom and hack the registry to get more speed!!!
thanks and regards...

abusalza said:
just my 2c. i prefer to optimalized all windows funcionallity more than get a more speed, or adding some apps (coz available on cab). that's a reason why my rom very quickly on updated
and now i just fixed contact show on bottom, yahoo! go crashed, working encryption (thanks God for all). i have tried make a rom and i can't believe for speed, like a flashlight. but a minor is phone error, message error, etc
find your rom and hack the registry to get more speed!!!
thanks and regards...
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what should i do in the registry, how can i optimise my registry

arshiahirbod said:
what should i do in the registry, how can i optimise my registry
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via schaps advancedconfig you can try this...

IMHO, since the question is which ROM and no mention if its WM6 or WM6.1.....for fastest and stable ROM, I would go for Schaps WM6 rom. During that time when I was using his rom, almost all cooked WM6.1 are not yet stable so I didnt jump in the WM6.1 bandwagon.
Only lately did I try to WM6.1 because its been long now since Im using Schaps and I want something new and I want to go with the flow, which is WM6.1 roms Right now, my only choices are PDACorner and CRC's and I think almost everyone agrees with me with those two roms
however, I still miss the stability of Schaps rom

Best Artemis ROM

We initially had a poll on the best ROM for artemis.
That was a while ago and we have a lot of new chefs in business cooking wonderful ROM's
Can any of you please start a similar poll with all the new ROMS which has come out.
I think we should do this to give the best chef among all a little more deserved recognition.

sure v should have a poll once again

well personally ill vote for meschle's "touch vanilla"

sheennick123456 said:
well personally ill vote for meschle's "touch vanilla"
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ARTEMIS & LOVE WM6.1 ROM V35 (BLUE) -Build 20924.1.5.0 (Manila2D)

sheennick123456 said:
well personally ill vote for meschle's "touch vanilla"
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I would second that any day..
Meschele had prepared the best ROMS's (In terms of speed and stability together) ...
It is a shame he quit the forum without giving us a nice manila ROM which would not keep on crashing

shamreez said:
I would second that any day..
Meschele had prepared the best ROMS's (In terms of speed and stability together) ...
It is a shame he quit the forum without giving us a nice manila ROM which would not keep on crashing
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For me this rom best
http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=138267:cool:

I'm new here myself, trying to learn to cook some roms, I've tried about any rom I could find and the fastest and most stable so far is meschle's 3.01 vanilla, yes it is wm6.0 and does need some extra programs installed, but I prefer installing thing rather than removing them afterwards (which can be tricky). I'm also fond of gullum's TF2D beta5, but he is also not going to make any new versions anymore.
I want to make own rom from a very clean wm 6.1 source and only do minimal customisation and let the end-user and myself decide what apps to install. I don't see the need to pack a rom full of apps that get outdated when newer versions of the apps are released with no way of properly uninstalling it.
If anyone has some new clean wm6.1 XIP/SYS sources please pm me.

My best ROM is YuE_v11.1_3.15.20755_ExtraClean_WWE, cuz it is very fast, stable, and Roomy. Ver 14 had a bunch of faults. I never liked other versions, cuz of being stuffed with too many softwares I never used.

bandit999 said:
For me this rom best
http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=138267:cool:
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Is this English ROM ?
ROM looks good to me.

WM 6.5 21501-clean, build 21501.5.0.7
WM 6.5 new build 21806.5.0.5 .

According to me
the best is Artemis Touch 4.02 Full with 4 sided cube

According to me
the best is Artemis Touch 4.02 Full with 4 sided cube

almozaffar said:
My best ROM is YuE_v11.1_3.15.20755_ExtraClean_WWE, cuz it is very fast, stable, and Roomy. Ver 14 had a bunch of faults. I never liked other versions, cuz of being stuffed with too many softwares I never used.
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Another vote for this ROM... the best for me so far...

RushdB said:
Another vote for this ROM... the best for me so far...
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ANy chance of a link?

Artemis Touch 4.02 Full with 4 sided cube,
the first one i ever ''flashed''to my htc p3300.
i must say it works very good but it takes 100% cpu usage on this phone unfortunally.
now im flashing''no nonsonse_6''on this moment to my phone for faster working(i hope)............
installed,it looks not fancy but it looks not bad.
simple use but i am really searching for a rom that is fast,and with nice graphics and programs(like live messenger)
edit;
[rom][wwe][01.02.09]achilles Manila 2d (ce Os 20764.1.4.3) version 3 YouTube[online]
is the one i installed now on my tmobile mda compact 3(p3300)nl edition
even as they say its impossible to get a wireless connection with an tmobile mda3 compact.....
with this rom i now have access to the wireless internet!
working great,just installed windows live messenger and it works like a charm!
im really happy that i now can access the wireless internet,very handy!
(must say this phone is unlocked after 1 year for free by tmobile)

TangerineTractor said:
ANy chance of a link?
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I dont have the link right now, but search for
YuE ROM, build 20755.1.4.0
I'm running Radio 3.39.90...
the phone is 10x faster and easyer to use than when it came from original box...

fastest vogue rom?

:? what is it?

I've used many of the Vogue ROMs (In fact, I think there is only one I haven't really tested), and for pure speed/usability, I suggest NFSFan's. They have always seemed to just work best (and there is an update coming out soon)

another vote for NSFAN, this thing is great... and winmo 6.5 is nice too. I dragged my feet but it's def worth it! Along with skyfire, feels like I have a new phone!

Using NFSFAN's VZW 1.15 ROM. None seem to be really fast as the phone still takes forever to fully boot.

jadesse said:
Using NFSFAN's VZW 1.15 ROM. None seem to be really fast as the phone still takes forever to fully boot.
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It only takes forever because you are using M2D. The 6.5 ROMs with Titanium boot much faster.

atoz350 said:
It only takes forever because you are using M2D. The 6.5 ROMs with Titanium boot much faster.
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I wouldn't really think that's quite true.
NFSFAN's 6.5 ROMS include both Titanium and M2D.
That would be a question of wether 6.1 or 6.5 is faster, not Titanium or M2D. (operating system versus user interface)
For boot time I tested soft reseting V8 with Titanium, then M2D as the homepage. M2D was only about a second behind while TouchFlo loaded.
Speed while using??? I think both are fast.
As far as ROMS you have to compare apples to apples. Some bare bones ROMS may appear to be initially faster, but then load all your usual programs (TomTom, games,facebook, etc etc) and applications and you'll soon find NFSFAN's ROMS with optimizations run much faster.

I quite hate M2D and TouchFLO. I'm a real SPB Mobile shell guy. Where can I find myself a nice clean TouchFLO-less rom for the Vogue?

:'(, Adrian your killing me...

the perfect rom

how should be the perfect rom?

I would appreciate knowing the reason the reason of your vote

The stock O2 6.1 rom is the only one I can reliably use that has the features I need.
Unfortunately, a lot of the custom roms disable things which can't then be added back later. All other roms I have tried run out of ram too quickly and require regular restarts. The Clean basic rom available here is maybe an exception to this.

After trying abt 15 roms, found that what exactly I like and need is combination between speed not loaded rom and couple of payed applications. It`s my taste

nrgxtra said:
After trying abt 15 roms, found that what exactly I like and need is combination between speed not loaded rom and couple of payed applications. It`s my taste
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which you voted?

my perfect rom would be 6.5.1 titanium that worked fast & didn't crash & cause hard resets on my phone, which all the 6.5.1s seem to do :/

harvester98 said:
which you voted?
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6.1, to be exact nataly 2.7

littld said:
The stock O2 6.1 rom is the only one I can reliably use that has the features I need.
Unfortunately, a lot of the custom roms disable things which can't then be added back later. All other roms I have tried run out of ram too quickly and require regular restarts. The Clean basic rom available here is maybe an exception to this.
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What features are you speaking of?

1- A good ROM SHALL included TF3d. Diamond without TF3d is a ordinary boaring device, TF3d is the soul of Diamond. I never use ROMs without TF3d.
2- All ROMs including Windows Mobile 6.5 + TF3d are too RAM and battery consuming and seems Diamond's hardware not able to handle it.
3- TF3d 2.5 is really nice.
Conclusion:
The ROM I prefer shall be a fast and stable one based on WM6.1+ TF3d 2.5

dchegini said:
The ROM I prefer shall be a fast and stable one based on WM6.1+ TF3d 2.5
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Totally agree with your comment, however as i heard yotgagz mentioned that TF3d 2.5 is running slow on Diamond. hope he can make it run smoother.

slovoflud said:
What features are you speaking of?
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Transcriber is one. You can apply whatever cabs you like but it never works properly as compared with the built-in one. It's always first off the "unnecessary removed" list in custom roms but since you can't put it back you're stuck.
Another is the default way that rotation works. With Opera on the stock rom when I rotate the device the screen rotates as well. On the custom roms it doesn't. Unless I search for and download some obscure application I've never heard of and run it 25 seconds after every restart. Except on Tuesdays.

rom 6.5.1
it's true, that the touchflo is a must have application for the diamond, but more recently i use siemenslover's clean 6.5.1. rom, without manila or titanium, with the spb mobile shell 3.5 installed, and for now it's by far the best combo: great battery performance, nice and easy spb interface with widgets (very handy to use). Even with lot of sms and internet usage i don't have to be afraid of remaining without battery.

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Transcriber is one. You can apply whatever cabs you like but it never works properly as compared with the built-in one. It's always first off the "unnecessary removed" list in custom roms but since you can't put it back you're stuck.
Another is the default way that rotation works. With Opera on the stock rom when I rotate the device the screen rotates as well. On the custom roms it doesn't. Unless I search for and download some obscure application I've never heard of and run it 25 seconds after every restart. Except on Tuesdays.
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oh, ok I know what you mean
concerning Opera - it depends on the build - I always prefer a non rotating build. however, most of them do rotate.

I voted WM 6.5 + TF3d 2.5
TF3D2.1 Home screen is boring for me i prefer manila 2.5 with a Lite version of WM6.5.X or a clean ROM also WM6.5.X
Not to much preinstalled applications,tools and games but only required applications for running the device.
That would be the perfect for me.

energy leo m2.5 lite rom
ok im a fan of the new hd2 and here in australia we have not got it yet.. soo ive customised my rom to defalut manila leo 2.5 and wm default 6.5 and now have a perfect smaller version of hd2 on my htc diamond which im very happy with soo my vote is 6.5 + 2.5
NATAO

natao2nv said:
ok im a fan of the new hd2 and here in australia we have not got it yet.. soo ive customised my rom to defalut manila leo 2.5 and wm default 6.5 and now have a perfect smaller version of hd2 on my htc diamond which im very happy with soo my vote is 6.5 + 2.5
NATAO
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is it fast and stable?

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is it fast and stable?
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yeh man its fast and stable i just installed all my extra apps to internal memory and ive fix all the bugs wid reg keys listed throughout rom post and yeh just love it
NATAO

The perfect rom would be WiMo 6.1 without Manila!
In my opinion TF3D is unusable crap, its slow and useless.
WiMo 6.5 is slow too and it got nothing which is worth to switch.

I'm actually coming back to TF3d after a year away from primarily because of the cooking going on in here.
I have 2 ideal ROMs at moment (never could make my mind up!). Both of which are still not quite there for my needs (but very close thanks to these wizard chefs).
1) WM6.5 with Manila 2.1
2) WM6.1 with Manila 2.5
Reasons:
As it stands I can't see how there can be enough usable RAM left with 6.5.x and Manila 2.5 for everyday usage. Would love to be proved wrong but that's how I see it. I do like the advancements in finger friendly usage but with 2.5 you need to get into the underlying Microsoft less and less.
I do like 6.5.1 but for an appointments and task focussed job then the standard Titanium is not enough and I find I am layering lots of SPB stuff on top.
Now when SPB get their as**s into gear and bring Diary out with full 6.5.1 compatibility and face lift this could be a real option for me.

Ho votato per la soluzione WM6.1 + TF3D2.5 perchè, secondo me, è un ottimo compromesso tra una rom veloce e graficamente accattivante.
Secondo la mia modesta opinione, l'hardware del Diamond non può far funzionare con una velocità decente le nuove rom 6.5....
I voted for the resolution WM6.1 + TF3D2.5 because, in my opinion, is a good compromise between a fast and visually appealing rom.
IMHO Diamond's hardware can not handle rapidly the new 6.5 roms....