Develop Bugs

Use telephone and data connection at the same time?

Back when I had the base Cingular WM5 rom on my phone I was able to talk on the phone and have my data connection going at the same time. Since upgrading to WM6, XDA Live .20 and Black 2.0 I have not been able to get that feature back. To make a call it has to disconnect me. Then once I get off the phone call the data connection connects again. I tried the Allways On option in HTweakC that came with the WM6 releases but that doesn't appear to be what I am looking for. Does anyone else notice this or have a fix?

My device maintains a data connection whilst I am on voice calls. I receive emails fine whilst talking. Its on Black 2.0

KanosWRX said:
Does anyone else notice this or have a fix?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes.. try your phone and data in a 3G area... voice and data only works in 3G not edge......

I have tried it in a 3G area, right by my work I have 4 bars of 3G. But everytime I try to call or get a call it always closes the data connection.

try using bandswitch and manually fixing the phone to 3G only.. just to make sure its really on 3G and not secretly on Edge..

When I select the WCDMA Network I get the 3G Icon, when I select the GSM Network I get the E Icon. So I think it knows the difference between 3G and E just fine. I leave the "band" setting set to Auto.
BTW I am using radio rom 1.38.00.10 now, but even when I had the factory 1.16.00.00 I still had this problem with WM6. It only seemed to work with WM5. Another strange thing, in the phone app it says UMTS Cingular, just another sign it is actually using UMTS (3G).
Its just so annoying if I am online doing anything, slingbox, browsing the web, then when I want to make a call, it usually fails the first time while it disconnects then it goes through
Another odd thing probably just part of the new radio rom, when online and it starts to load data it switches to an H icon, I guess for HPDSA or whatever that abbreviation is.

Are you sure its really closing the data connection? Ignore the icons. Send yourself some emails and see if they arrive whilst on voicecall.

KanosWRX said:
When I select the WCDMA Network I get the 3G Icon, when I select the GSM Network I get the E Icon. So I think it knows the difference between 3G and E just fine. I leave the "band" setting set to Auto.
BTW I am using radio rom 1.38.00.10 now, but even when I had the factory 1.16.00.00 I still had this problem with WM6. It only seemed to work with WM5. Another strange thing, in the phone app it says UMTS Cingular, just another sign it is actually using UMTS (3G).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i was saying to do this as a test, just to make sure the phone wasnt doing something funny... just some basic troubleshooting to help find the problem...
kinda like if your car wont start.. there are different problems that could cause it, maybe its out of gas, maybe the fuel filter is clogged, maybe the battery is dead.. different things can cause similiar problems, its better to eliminate all possibilities

I tested it this morning, data and voice works fine at the same time. Called voicemail and then opened up IE and was able to load several pages while on the call.
Edit, where are you located? Is it possible there is a problem with the network there? Try downgrading back to the Cingular software and see if that works.

Shogunmark, I figured thats what you were getting at, and I tried all the options I could that would give me a connection to the network, but I still couldn't do data and telephone at the same time. Everytime I was connected online then went to place a data call it would have to disconnect me first. I tried doing a phone call then connecting online, but nothing would load.
I guess I could try going back to WM5, but I have hard spl 1.4 on so I gotta do a little rom editing of the cingular rom to get WM5 back I guess. didn't realize it was that complicated to go back to factory after installing hard spl.
Im surprised no one else has this issue. Its been like this for me pretty much as long as I have had WM6, so I doubt its the cingular network.

KanosWRX said:
Shogunmark, I figured thats what you were getting at, and I tried all the options I could that would give me a connection to the network, but I still couldn't do data and telephone at the same time. Everytime I was connected online then went to place a data call it would have to disconnect me first. I tried doing a phone call then connecting online, but nothing would load.
I guess I could try going back to WM5, but I have hard spl 1.4 on so I gotta do a little rom editing of the cingular rom to get WM5 back I guess. didn't realize it was that complicated to go back to factory after installing hard spl.
Im surprised no one else has this issue. Its been like this for me pretty much as long as I have had WM6, so I doubt its the cingular network.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not at all, just drop a WM5 NBH into a folder with CustomRUU and use autodetect. it'll flash quite happily

How would I take the HTC Cingular rom (found here, http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html) and get the WM5 NBH? Or will I have to use another WM5 version?

Just chiming in to say I don't have this problem and I've used both those roms and still using WMXL 0.20 now and use data and calling all the time. I am using the same radio ROM as you now too and it still works ok.
What apps do you have installed? anything that would end the data connection for some reason? Maybe put a list of apps and customisations you've made since installing the WM6 rom you have?
You could also try it with a blank WM6 rom, manually add the data connection settings and try and see if that works? Just to eliminate 3rd party apps and thing's you've changed.
The only other similar thing i can think of is I do remember there was an issue where data would disconnect when changing between 3G and EDGE. I don't remember who had this problem or why but it could be related.
Let us know how it goes?
Maz
--------------
This would be great to add to the bug tracker website when I finish it.
http://maz.net.au/

KanosWRX said:
How would I take the HTC Cingular rom (found here, http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html) and get the WM5 NBH? Or will I have to use another WM5 version?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Use this guide to go back to the Cingular ROM.
http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/Downgrade/index.html

Here are the apps I have
Resco File Explorer
Core Media Player
Slingbox
Don't run to many apps on my ppc as you can see. I mainly just use it to stream media from home (orb, slingbox), and internet connection sharing. I'll probably find some time tonight to revert back to WM5 and let you know what I find.

Well I just flashed back to the cingular rom, and guess what it's working again, can talk on the phone and be on the internet at the same time. So weird. well I guess I will try going back to Black 2.0 and see what happens.

Kanos,
Your problem is definitely not WM6. As in WM5, I can concurrently browse the internet during a voice call. As Mark said, there may be other issues specific to your case -- you'll have to methodically eliminate one-by-one... you'll have to decide if the process is really worth the time yourself.
FWIW:
Radio 1.34
HERMES 200 HT625 (in use since 7/4/2006)
Network: Manual (Taiwan UMTS)
Band: Auto/GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
Cheers

I believe it's not truly a problem with WM6, as people obviously have gotten it to work. I will definitely look into it more and keep you all updated on what I find. Right now I am still on WM5 but I will flash back to WM6, no apps installed, right after a fresh hard reset and see if it works or not for me.

I decided to try LVSW this time. Guess what it worked, I was able to both data and phone at the same time. Next test will be to install Black 2.0 again and see what happens.
My theory is this, I had XDALive .10 and maybe that version had this issue, then when I upgraded to .20 it carried over somehow and then carried over to black 2.0. Then once I went back to WM5 it reset everything. Don't ask me how, but obviously I have a lot more flashing to do to test this theory.

the imate site on wm5 proclaim this as a problem. when u r receiving data at a specific point in time u cannot receive a call.
the aust. telstra latest release says the upgrade fixes this.
to bypass going back to wm5 i just used the xda radio only upgrade to try and bypass. this was i believe only when receiving data and a call inwards simultaneously.
otherwise i have never had ur problem n likely a flash issue.
there is another i have noticed in recent releases is activesync now asks to allow data to be received when activesync this is a 4.5 change so perhaps looking for this setting may also help ur simultaneous data issue. just a guess but it might have been easy to not allow this when u upgraded to wmg which rwquired 4.5 to do this.
anyway goodluck with it.

Question about 3G icon in new AT&T WM6 ROM

Hello everyone.
My first post here, although I have been an avid reader for a while now. I'd like to say thanks to vp3G and others for the excellent cooked ROMS.
My question: I just started using the new official WM6 ROM from AT&T. My fiance and myself both use AT&T 8525's, and I loaded the new ROM on both of our phones. Now, we can be sitting right next to one other on our couch, and her phone will read as having full bars with the 3G icon to the left of them. Then I'll look at my phone and I have full bars with the E icon next to them.
Would anybody here have any idea as to why? Identical phones, with identical ROMs and identical radio versions, yet she gets 3G while I only seem to get Edge, with the phones sitting side-by-side on the coffee table.
I'm confused on this one ...any ideas? Thanks a bunch in advance for any help and for the great site!
-D.

Is 3G disabled in the com manager settings?

Same SIM cards? (AT&T or Cingular?)

ilogik said:
Is 3G disabled in the com manager settings?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I looked in the com manager and looked under settings>phone but couldn't find anything regarding 3G. Where would I look?

nemets said:
Same SIM cards? (AT&T or Cingular?)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, they are the same. We bought the phones a few months back and both shipped with one of the new AT&T SIM cards with the 3G logo on it. I used to get sporadic 3G at home with the older radio versions, but she has always had rock solid 3G on hers. It's weird, I know.

dzelaya18 said:
I looked in the com manager and looked under settings>phone but couldn't find anything regarding 3G. Where would I look?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, since you looked under the settings>phone; you have the enable band tab reg edit right? If so make sure this is on Auto.
Couldn't tell from your post if you had this exactly.

intrglctcrevfnk said:
Well, since you looked under the settings>phone; you have the enable band tab reg edit right? If so make sure this is on Auto.
Couldn't tell from your post if you had this exactly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm feeling kind of silly right now...I'm not sure what you're referring to. I open up the com manager in the lower right of the today screen, and then the left soft key becomes a "settings" tab. Opening that just takes me to the phone setting menu (Phone, Services, Network, etc...).
I haven't made any changes to the ROM, just using what it had available.

dzelaya18 said:
I'm feeling kind of silly right now...I'm not sure what you're referring to. I open up the com manager in the lower right of the today screen, and then the left soft key becomes a "settings" tab. Opening that just takes me to the phone setting menu (Phone, Services, Network, etc...).
I haven't made any changes to the ROM, just using what it had available.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok. Go to Start-Settings-Phone
See if there is a tab on the bottom that says Band...
If you do then make sure that it says Auto on both.
If not then check out the hermes wiki and go to tweaking the hermes registry...
If your are using the 'official' att rom, and if it's anything like the old roms, then the band tab will not be there...

Telus Vogue Update finally here!

So Aaron McCarthy discovered a new Vogue rom for Telus users (I REPEAT: TELUS ONLY!!!). It was at one of the known IP addresses which HTC has used. It was accidentally leaked or opened for a tester, I suppose. It's also seemingly no longer available... I get "Directory Listing Denied" when I follow the link now. So, of course I've uploaded my copy to rapidshare. Back up any important files on your phone and then enjoy:
http://rapidshare.com/files/1282900...4350H_3.41.00_Ship_withPPSTPatch1.20.exe.html
It'll be easy to install, just run the EXE on your windows XP/Vista computer, connect your vogue with Activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center when the program prompts you to do so, and follow the on-screen instructions. It took me approximately 15 minutes to do this. Add five for letting the phone customize itself.
I also did some messing with it to get everything working. It does not fully function out of box (which is probably why it's not actually released yet).
For me, the steps that got the GPS and Internet to work:
-Dial *22803 , 1 (for English), 1 (program your handset). Wait for reset.
-Install Google Maps and a registry editor.
-Search for a registry key called GPSMODE and change it's dword value from 2 to 4. This may not be necessary, but it worked for me.
<EDIT>Registry change is definitely not necessary, I've tried it both ways with no different effect. What this setting does might be explained better in the next post.</EDIT>
-Soft reset.
-Run Google Maps and any other freeware, no problem.
I'm certain that some GPS programs will require initialization/tweaks, and I'd bet that most of those have already been examined elsewhere in this forum. Anyway the GPS is seemingly solid and accurate. I placed it next to a handheld garmin unit and speed, lattitude,longitude were matched on both devices over a half-hour trip. It will certainly NOT work indoors.
As for Rev.A, I honestly cannot tell you anything about it. I'm in a CDMA only area for the next 3 weeks.
Thanks again to Aaron McCarthy for discovering the Rom and letting us know so that I could copy it before we got locked out. Here's the thread he started : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2385096

by setting GPSMode to 4 you disable the GPS. Not the best idea....
GPSMode 1 = ONLY pure GPS
GPSMode 2 = GPS + aGPS
GPSMode 4 = aGPS only

Got it installed without any issues. However Google maps and the Telus Navigator programs don't seem to be able to find the GPS... Well, to be more precise, googlemaps doesn't give an error. It just sits there seeking satellites. The Telus NAV doesn't get past the startup screen. Any suggestions?
WM6.1 is working fine on my phone but is it possible that I actually don't have the built in GPS even though it is a Telus HTC Touch?

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31437

guardianfox said:
So Aaron McCarthy discovered a new Vogue rom for Telus users (I REPEAT: TELUS ONLY!!!). It was at one of the known IP addresses which HTC has used. It was accidentally leaked or opened for a tester, I suppose. It's also seemingly no longer available... I get "Directory Listing Denied" when I follow the link now. So, of course I've uploaded my copy to rapidshare. Back up any important files on your phone and then enjoy:
http://rapidshare.com/files/1282900...4350H_3.41.00_Ship_withPPSTPatch1.20.exe.html
It'll be easy to install, just run the EXE on your windows XP/Vista computer, connect your vogue with Activesync or Windows Mobile Device Center when the program prompts you to do so, and follow the on-screen instructions. It took me approximately 15 minutes to do this. Add five for letting the phone customize itself.
I also did some messing with it to get everything working. It does not fully function out of box (which is probably why it's not actually released yet).
For me, the steps that got the GPS and Internet to work:
-Dial *22803 , 1 (for English), 1 (program your handset). Wait for reset.
-Install Google Maps and a registry editor.
-Search for a registry key called GPSMODE and change it's dword value from 2 to 4. This may not be necessary, but it worked for me.
<EDIT>Registry change is definitely not necessary, I've tried it both ways with no different effect. What this setting does might be explained better in the next post.</EDIT>
-Soft reset.
-Run Google Maps and any other freeware, no problem.
I'm certain that some GPS programs will require initialization/tweaks, and I'd bet that most of those have already been examined elsewhere in this forum. Anyway the GPS is seemingly solid and accurate. I placed it next to a handheld garmin unit and speed, lattitude,longitude were matched on both devices over a half-hour trip. It will certainly NOT work indoors.
As for Rev.A, I honestly cannot tell you anything about it. I'm in a CDMA only area for the next 3 weeks.
Thanks again to Aaron McCarthy for discovering the Rom and letting us know so that I could copy it before we got locked out. Here's the thread he started : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2385096
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
will this work on a non gps telus touch?

foxatphoenixlabs said:
will this work on a non gps telus touch?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It has been known since a while that all Vogues phones (or CDMA Touch) have the GPS hardware built in. It is just not activated by Telus yet.
This new ROM should be released officially by Telus soon in order to let users have GPS and better performance.

uggh canadians
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum

Rev A
Has anyone else tested to see if Rev A gives better performance?
Also, does this ROM improve Bluetooth and device overall performance?
Dave

its there
the place holder is up.. we can expect the official, offical release soon
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=80&act=sd

Thanks for this ROM. Can't be more easy to upgrade a ROM.
GPS is working fine. It took several try and a very clear sky (no tree) to make first connexion. It was so slow to connect that I suspect AGPS (cellular tower triangulation assist) is not working.
At 3 bars of reception, in EVDO REV A zone, I get a DL speed of 150 to 400kb/s which is pretty lame and just a bit better than before rev A.

One problem:
When clicking on status icons on the top bar (volume, battery, etc.), it used to display the control directly. Now it displays an intermediate screen repeating those icons but in a larger mode. It is buggy because it doesn't display message icons if I previously clicked Dismiss. Then I can't go to my messages.
In Start, Settings, System, TouchFLO, there is no setting to remove this screen.
I tried HKLM->Software->HTC->EnlargeTitleBar->Enable=0 without success.
Is it something that comes with WM6.1?
Is it Telus ROM specific?
Do Sprint official ROM got the same problem?
Any reg to remove this?

That is too funny
513fabe said:
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Must be a red neck.
Must be Prez Bush's aide.
Must be unemployed, his job went overseas.
Alll,,just a joke....then don't post stupid jokes red neck.

If you go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 and go to post #14 you can see the guide to improving GPS locks on the telus rom. I mean DRASTICALLY. From initally loading the rom I went from getting 4-5 locks maybe after a few minutes on a cold GPS start then once I changed all the settings and did a soft reset I was getting 6 to 7 satellite locks down in my basement. Pretty impressive
It's not as complicated as it seems to be in the post I made. Pretty straight forward actually and I would recommend it to anyone who wants better GPS reception
In regards to Rev A speeds. I'm in London ontario so would think there would be rev A in the area but I dont get any better download speeds. I still download around 600-800 kbps. Which is really good enough for me. I dont know if rev A actually was supposed to increase your download speed or if it improved upload speeds making Voip easier and allowing you to have data and phone stuff going on at the same time. All I know is my internet speed didnt change but Rev A was enabled.

Aaron McCarthy said:
If you go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 and go to post #14 you can see the guide to improving GPS locks on the telus rom. I mean DRASTICALLY. From initally loading the rom I went from getting 4-5 locks maybe after a few minutes on a cold GPS start then once I changed all the settings and did a soft reset I was getting 6 to 7 satellite locks down in my basement. Pretty impressive
It's not as complicated as it seems to be in the post I made. Pretty straight forward actually and I would recommend it to anyone who wants better GPS reception
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Every time, before using this, an already established data connexion is needed BEFORE looking for GPS satellite. The GPS will not establish the connection if it's not there. A simple solution is to open Google map and move the map up to a download is required BEFORE making the GPS satellite connexion.

513fabe said:
uggh canadians they actually have cell phones
in canuckville
instead of "can"ada it should be
cant be n.e. duh ber
smiles guys just a joke i got jokes.cum
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes i am in canada and now my internet doesnt work. poop.

redNeck
sailor_dude said:
Must be a red neck.
Must be Prez Bush's aide.
Must be unemployed, his job went overseas.
Alll,,just a joke....then don't post stupid jokes red neck.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thats why i wear my hair
long...to cover my redneck*(~
....................canada has a navy? is it kept together with maple syrup?

For as small as our arms forces are (navy, Army, airforce) we actually have some of the best trained soldiers the world and some of the best equipped. Little known fact No that it has anything to do with the phone!

Looks like the official Telus rom is on HTC's site now.

Yep - and it appears to be identical to the one referenced in this thread from 3 weeks ago. That's kind of a disappointment considering how much trouble the tech-naive user is going to have getting the gps to work and getting their data connection back after flashing.

Shrink said:
Yep - and it appears to be identical to the one referenced in this thread from 3 weeks ago. That's kind of a disappointment considering how much trouble the tech-naive user is going to have getting the gps to work and getting their data connection back after flashing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Very lame.
Exact same files and version. http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=80&act=sd
2 weeks ago I sent a support ticket to HTC stating that the GPS fix is difficult to get, mainly because all GPS assisted features (aGPS) are disabled by default in the radio (can't be fixed by a simple registry tweak). I even pointed them to one solution of many (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&page=2 post #14). Then no correction and not even a mention in the documentation.
I just can't imagine how many phone calls they will get from upgraders complaining that the GPS can't find satellites after 5 minutes...

IE Issues after WM6.1 upgrade

Hi, I upgraded to WM6.1 over the weekend, everything looks pretty cool.. But IE can not get on the internet anymore.
I'm able to check the email okay but IE reports the following error
HTTP ERROR $CODE$
I see the Edge (E) come up when I launch the IE so that means IE is trying to open the connection but does not bring anything back.
Someone please help

That is the same error I get.

I scanned pretty much all related thread did not find anything yet...
Pig Vomit said:
That is the same error I get.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Hi, Newbs. When you flashed your phone did you use the "Sticky: The Guide for UPGRADING WM 6 to 6.1 with PICS and LINKS" I'm pretty sure you both skipped a step naughty naughty....
Well if you go to the Sticky and look at post #3 and run your connection setup like you were suppose too, we wouldn't be having this conversation . It honestly should be that simple.
Good Luck
Manual Settings: http://tmobileuspublic.wdsglobal.co...=phone.vm&selectManufacturerId=9&phoneId=1828

hahah
naughty naughty
thats way better than my approach...

Never a Thank You nor friendly follow up reply either...you ever notice that Gixxum.

pfunkside said:
Never a Thank You nor friendly follow up reply either...you ever notice that Gixxum.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i dont expect one....most the time i deserve a follow up kick in the nuts =)
but you were polite, so yes, you got screwed.
ps. THANK YOU FOR FIXING MY INTERTUBEZ.

Internet Explorer not working?
I've been able to figure out every other problem with my IE, but now this one has stumped me, and i need help.
i'm using Wifi, and for some reason i cant go to any websites. even a site such as google wont work.
I get an error that says "The page cannot be found. Check the name and try again."
and i know for a fact that im not typing in "http://www.google.com" wrong. its not a hard one.
its not my connection. im sitting right next to my wireless modem and router and my computer is working fine. in the Comm Manager i have full Wifi service.
There was at one point when i a site to work, but then IE went back to the IE homepage on its own and wouldnt work again.
SOOO pleaseee, if anybody can help, please do
Thanks guys =]

Hi guys.. just checked my thread again now after coming back home. many thanks for replying..
BTW I did run the connection setup multiple times after deleting the settings and all other possible options... but nothing worked.
I just tried setting up proxy mannually but NO GO.....
Looks like I'll have to run the kavana upgrade again..
Many Many Thanks for taking time to reply... I always try to follow up and appreciate people who respond.. thats the least one can do
gixxum said:
i dont expect one....most the time i deserve a follow up kick in the nuts =)
but you were polite, so yes, you got screwed.
ps. THANK YOU FOR FIXING MY INTERTUBEZ.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Not sure if this will help but...
I have found that if I switch networks from my "E" data plan to my home WIFI, or vice-versa, I have to quite IE (press the pink tmobile button and select "close" for IE) then restart it and viola it works. I seem to have to do this anytime I was using IE on one network and then connect to another without my phone being turned off at anytime in between.
Hope that helps.

WM6.1 Internet setting !!!!! HELp!!!
I recently flased the wm6.1 v24 on my phone and now i dont have internet. I have tried using the 5.99 plan with proxy and no luck. Right now i have the 19.99 feature but still dont get any internet. Anyone have the setting to make it work with tmobile? (19.99 plan)
ALl i get is I dont have accessed to this site, or http error.

dabezt1 said:
I recently flased the wm6.1 v24 on my phone and now i dont have internet. I have tried using the 5.99 plan with proxy and no luck. Right now i have the 19.99 feature but still dont get any internet. Anyone have the setting to make it work with tmobile? (19.99 plan)
ALl i get is I dont have accessed to this site, or http error.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you are running Ricky's v24:
Start > Accessories > Connection Setup
Run the Connection setup, select United States and T-Mobile. I think that you'll need a reboot after the settings update.

I 2nd That
That's exactamundo correcto. Trust this man. He is dead on.
ruinertt said:
If you are running Ricky's v24:
Start > Accessories > Connection Setup
Run the Connection setup, select United States and T-Mobile. I think that you'll need a reboot after the settings update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

having the same problem and after running the connection set up again still getting the "http error $code$ $message$ requestURI=/"
I'm on the 5.99 t-zones. the really weird thing is right after the flash it was working then tried it about 30 min later and nothing. I've tried about 4 different variations of manual settings I can find. Any help?

I'm having the same problem with internet after upgrading to 6.1. Yes I have ran the connection setup and let it reboot, tried it twice with no luck. Txt messages still work, just doesn't seem to access any internet sites. I'm using the 19.99 plan and running Kavana's 6.1 080408 final. I have also tried using the manual settings provided by Tmobile
Any ideas?

does your MMS work?
if not call t-mobile to reenter you into their network. 5 minute call.

do the connection setup then do the tzones hack it worked fine for me and this is the second dash after my first one went out. Not one problem installing anything use search I dont post must as u see but I have done plenty of mods on thru this site without asking questions all the answers are out there just search and read.

[Android] Disabling 3G For Kaiser for NAND rom -- please help!

As some devs are aware there are those of us who need 3G disabled on Android for our devices. Using the option to "Only Use 2G Networks" does not resolve this. (edit: also, neither does the *#*#INFO#*#*)
I thought it might be helpful to create a thread about it so that if anyone comes up with a solution or if a particular rom build can address this issue (I'm not an expert but it seems like it will have to be a rom based fix? which is why this isn't in software development) there's a place for it.
I use AT&T and have validated my APN settings and tried all manner of selecting the "use only 2g" option (restarting, manually selecting networks, automatically selecting networks, etc.) but it always goes back to 3G.
This can be disabled as if I disable 3G through WinMO it works and HaRET seems to behave when I use it that way (I still select 2g only though).
Personally I use HardSPL 3.56 and Radio 1.71.09.01.
Please help us out Perhaps we could start a bounty -- I'd like to start with $10 for a validated fix.
If someone would be willing to walk me through a build process for their rom perhaps I can test/fumble through C myself and create a "patch" or something that can be applied to other builds. Please feel free to PM me if you can do that and I'll keep any information on this thread.
Thanks for reading this and any help you can provide or direction you can point me in! This is a great community!

---------------- UPDATES -----------------
As reported by Softec 2G/3G switching is working for Polaris (Pola100) using KaiserDroid 2.0
http://www.homecncfun.com/kaiserdroid/
Thank you slm4996!
I am trying to use KaiserDroid 2.0 on my Kaiser (Kais160) but thus far haven't gotten data to work. Stay tuned.

Hi
Thanks for starting this thread I am using the same phone (kaiser 130) same hard spl 3.34 and same radio.
I too live in an area where I need to disable 3g to have a usable phone, and have found the same - disable in Windows Mobile and load via haret and then android never tries 3g.
I like the idea of the reward, I'll match your $10 so that makes a $20 bounty on this one, I can test for anyone if they're trying to fix it.

There's a few different ways to accomplish this. All do the same thing but some may be easier for you to do based on your experience. I don't know if the ROMs need to be rooted but given that these are ports you should have no issues with that. You can search through my posts, the various threads or PM me if you need help with that.
Basically you are going to corrupt the (going off of memory here) /etc/apn-config.xml file to point to nonexistent APNs. You don't need to do both of these, these are just different ways to do this:
1.) Download Droidsans Tweaks Lite from Market (free) and you can use it to disable the APN, or you can just to to the APN settings and change the APN name
2.) Download APNdroid (free) and toggle connectivity
There's other ways, but giving you two options should be enough. If you are good enough at messing with ROMs, you can always just delete the apn-config.xml (or whatever it's called) in /etc (which is in the rootfs.img) and it will never connect.

I don't think these 2 actually turn off 3g just the data, my problem is the 3g signal is too weak to be reliable so I need to force 2g completely, not just disable the apn

then can't you just get one of the various (curvefish for example) widgets to toggle 2G/3G or go to settings and say 2G only?

Currently only via Haret
damianiw said:
I don't think these 2 actually turn off 3g just the data, my problem is the 3g signal is too weak to be reliable so I need to force 2g completely, not just disable the apn
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well the only thing I can suggest is via haret.
1. Via windows goto com manager and disable 3g, and confirm that you have edge showing and connected.
2. Boot haret and you will be limited to edge.
short and sweet.....
the speed is decent enough for me to consider a nexus or desire on ATT's 850 mhz HSDPA/4g
Mo
ps. I hope your thread pushes for a solution via nand b/c its important.

disable 3g not workkint in android
enatefox said:
then can't you just get one of the various (curvefish for example) widgets to toggle 2G/3G or go to settings and say 2G only?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry n the dsiabling 3g when runing android does not work on the kaiser from our experience, the widget is just a shortcut to the menu.
As noted in post 7 and I tught above the only soluton is to run via haret and. Disable it in windows mobile to re-enable reboot the phone and enable in windows then run haret again.
Can we change the thread to - Android via Nand on Kaiser Disable 3g solution required or something clearer
I would love to be able to run via nand

I have this problem too, i can't disable the 3G signal, i think this problem is only in Kaiser.
i like if someone can "fix" this for us.

Thank you guys for the suggestions. HaRET does work if the WinMO ROM hosting can disable 3G (which most have a switch or something).
I have googled for some time searching for a toggle/switch that disables 3G but as mentioned have only found ones that point to the menu rather than actually disable 3G.
As mentioned the menu does not work.
There's a $20 combined bounty on this already! Please help us out!!

Newest KaiserDroid
I am using a new RIL in KaiserDroid 2.0, have you tried it yet?
http://www.homecncfun.com/kaiserdroid/
If it works I can backport it to older roms till this one is more complete. Thank you for all you feedback on the KaiserDroid thread.

I'll give it a try and let you know...

2G/3G switch is working for me on Polaris Pola100
i finally can use me phone with Android!!!
thanks, great work!

Softec said:
2G/3G switch is working for me on Polaris Pola100
i finally can use me phone with Android!!!
thanks, great work!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're welcome. Do you want to keep using 2.0 or should I backport it for you?

Thus far with KaiserDroid 2.0 I haven't been able to get any data to work. I didn't test making/receiving phonecalls. I plan on posting thoroughly soon but I want to play with it some more (perhaps I've done something ignorant, haha )
I've been using HaRET to test and left my MicroSD at home today will have to try more later this evening. I will also check out KaiserDroid 1.1.

aikeru said:
Thus far with KaiserDroid 2.0 I haven't been able to get any data to work. I didn't test making/receiving phonecalls. I plan on posting thoroughly soon but I want to play with it some more (perhaps I've done something ignorant, haha )
I've been using HaRET to test and left my MicroSD at home today will have to try more later this evening. I will also check out KaiserDroid 1.1.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try this update package, it fixes some of the APN's and adds a few more:
http://www.homecncfun.com/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=15
(this is just an update, put it in your andboot folder and enter the install menu, choose "apply update" then quit)

slm4996 said:
Try this update package, it fixes some of the APN's and adds a few more:
http://www.homecncfun.com/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=15
(this is just an update, put it in your andboot folder and enter the install menu, choose "apply update" then quit)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Doesn't seem to work, my results/attempt procedure posted here (in KaiserDroid thread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5780033#post5780033

slm4996 said:
You're welcome. Do you want to keep using 2.0 or should I backport it for you?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello, it would be nice to have the opportunity to try different rom, can you tell us what to do if you would be very grateful.
For your rom I noticed that it is a bit slow, the data in WiFi will not work and above all the bateria takes very little.
Charged 100% no WiFi and only a few calls, it was switched off after 6 hours.
I tried the version 2.0, now I have downloaded version 2.1. Test and let you know.
Thank you very much.

Softec said:
Hello, it would be nice to have the opportunity to try different rom, can you tell us what to do if you would be very grateful.
For your rom I noticed that it is a bit slow, the data in WiFi will not work and above all the bateria takes very little.
Charged 100% no WiFi and only a few calls, it was switched off after 6 hours.
I tried the version 2.0, now I have downloaded version 2.1. Test and let you know.
Thank you very much.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please read the thread for the rom you use!! These are all known issues with all ROMs flashed to NAND and to some extent under HaRET. the appropriate fixes and/or workaround have been posted in the thread. I am working a howto to back port the RIL but if you start poking around in the sysinit.rc it should be fairly obvious what files you need.
keep in mind that KaiserDroid 2.0/2.1 are ALPHA release and as such contain bugs.

Hello slm4996, it was not my intension held high controversy, I just wanted to clear up why do not I was using your rom and use the 3G off on another rom.
I looked at the file sysinit.rc as you recommended and I changed the line:
service ril-daemon /system/bin/rild -l /system/lib/libhtcgeneric-ril.so -- -d /dev/smd0
with
service ril-daemon /system/bin/rild
Then I replaced the file /system/bin/Rild from your new rom and it worked perfectly.
I can make and receive calls on 2G without problem. I have not tried the APN but I'll try to short
thank you very much.