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Fastest 8525 Rom

Monday I received my 8525 in the mail. After setting everything up and playing with wm5 for a few hours I switched to vp3g's latest rom. I've done some tweaks to increase speed but it's still a little sluggish.
I've looked at the benchmarks that Karhu has made but I'm still not sure which I should be trying. Of course I could install new roms and find the one I think is fastest, but I'd like to get other peoples input on this.
What is the fastest rom? I'm looking for something that switches from landscape to portrait mode the fastest and opens programs and menus the fastest.

Just try them all, you will receive mixed opinions from users that use different rom's. You are the only one that can determine which is the fastest for you.

as custel has stated ,try them all, thats what i did to find the best rom for me

Yes, again the same question just a different day...
Go with your instincts and try a few!

Yes, try a few and then post back here with what you think is fastest to switch from portrait to landscape. I am curious.

larsuck said:
Yes, try a few and then post back here with what you think is fastest to switch from portrait to landscape. I am curious.
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Most likely one of the roms with a larger pagepool...

I've tried most of them and Black Satin and Hypercore SE feel the most responsive. Mind that you have to install your software on the SD card to keep your ROM snappy.

WDawn said:
I've tried most of them and Black Satin and Hypercore SE feel the most responsive. Mind that you have to install your software on the SD card to keep your ROM snappy.
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Where you install software has nothing to do with the system response....

WDawn said:
I've tried most of them and Black Satin and Hypercore SE feel the most responsive. Mind that you have to install your software on the SD card to keep your ROM snappy.
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Yep.. Most roms when flashed are quick but slow down with the amount of programs you install/run. Just keep that in mind.

CUSTEL said:
Where you install software has nothing to do with the system response....
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Weird, i do feel that the responsiveness of the system goes down when i install the apps in the phone memory. When i install them on the sd card the system remains much snappier.
That's my impression anyway.

schaps 4.01

WDawn said:
Weird, i do feel that the responsiveness of the system goes down when i install the apps in the phone memory. When i install them on the sd card the system remains much snappier.
That's my impression anyway.
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I feel the same on this also...
BTW, I have used both Schap's 4.00 Full, Scahps 4.01 Lite and VP3G's latest releases (3.62.3?) All awesomely cooked ROMS and props to the chefs, but the ATT official Carrier release seems to be the speediest of all.

Now when you say snappier are you guys refering to the program running or just navigating around the ROM? My programs i need to run fast always run faster in main memory. As for fastest i like hypercore and beleive it or not the New ATT but ive been throught about 12-15 roms and versions since ive had my device and the ATT made it the longest with about 3 weeks use.

myv6mustang said:
...beleive it or not the New ATT but ive been throught about 12-15 roms and versions since ive had my device and the ATT made it the longest with about 3 weeks use.
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Where do you find the time to constantly do updates? That and don't you get sick of reinstalling software and updating stuff? Updating this thing is a major inconvenience, especially when you have to scrap all your dates on the calendar. (I know Activesync is supposed to back this up, but still, what PITA). This kind of constant tinkering is what drives people to the likes of the iPhone (I'm not there yet, though!)

Theres always new roms on here. Most roms take about 10 mins to update. I have all cabs saved on my memory card so it only takes about 20mins to set up the phone. Its just that everytime i come on here there is a new damn rom . I have looked at cooking my own but have had no luck. I actully just flashed a new rom and was looking for another before i found this thread...i dont know i may need help...
I'm sam and im addicted to flashing...
Other addicts:
"Hello Sam"

Gman007 said:
Where do you find the time to constantly do updates? That and don't you get sick of reinstalling software and updating stuff? Updating this thing is a major inconvenience, especially when you have to scrap all your dates on the calendar. (I know Activesync is supposed to back this up, but still, what PITA). This kind of constant tinkering is what drives people to the likes of the iPhone (I'm not there yet, though!)
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Setup a free exchange account with mail2web...that's what I did, I have my gmail forwarded there- that way, when I reflash I just have to setup the connection and it downloads my contacts, appts, to-do, and e-mail...works like a charm for me...I also keep the programs I install in a folder on my sd card, and just install them quickly as cabs, whole process takes me <10mins no biggie

myv6mustang said:
Theres always new roms on here. Most roms take about 10 mins to update. I have all cabs saved on my memory card so it only takes about 20mins to set up the phone. Its just that everytime i come on here there is a new damn rom . I have looked at cooking my own but have had no luck. I actully just flashed a new rom and was looking for another before i found this thread...i dont know i may need help...
I'm sam and im addicted to flashing...
Other addicts:
"Hello Sam"
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you think your addicted??? lol check out me and these guys
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300316&highlight=addicted
when i had my wizard i flashed at least 30 maybe 40 times (some repeats)

thunda_chunky said:
you think your addicted??? lol check out me and these guys
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300316&highlight=addicted
when i had my wizard i flashed at least 30 maybe 40 times (some repeats)
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Only 30 or 40? Faria and I would do that in one two weeks, eheheh!
yes, the saving your cabs to your SC and having SOME kind of push mail service is a must, IMO. Indeed I'll pull off to the side of the hiway, whip out my Thinkpad and reflash another ROM when the one I'm testing goes south... and I'm back up and running 10 minutes after it's done with a months worth of emails from my Exchange server. (Of course me having one cab that adds all my settings including my User info helps )

thunda_chunky said:
you think your addicted??? lol check out me and these guys
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300316&highlight=addicted
when i had my wizard i flashed at least 30 maybe 40 times (some repeats)
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Well i guess im alright...i hold roms for more than a week and i dont think i would get out of bed with the misses to flash a ROM...that was funny

ATT is the shiznit
Honestly,
and i'm quite surprised myself, but i do find the ATT wm6 rom to be the snappiest i've tried. My issue now, is that there isn't enough space on it. I wish there was someway i could get rid off all the ATT stuff.
what i'd get rid of:
Internet Sharing (never gonna use it)
SAP Settings (no clue)
Push to Talk (don't live in the US)
Customer Feedback
Windows update
voice speed dial
windows media player (much prefer htc audio manager)
real player
zip (since it doesn't open rar files and i'm gonna need winrar anyways)
error reporting
oh & i want the kaiser comm manager & dialer
and to get rid of the god awful noisy att startup animation.

How to take out all AT&T apps on Tilt2

Hey,
I just got mine tilt2 and i dont realy wanna start flashing it yet but i'm not liking all that att crap.
Is there a way like on the old tilt to do soft reset anfter you do clear storage to load only base software with out att stuff.
I've tried few times but with out any luck.

I know you said dont wanna flash yet but I cant see another option to get rid of all crap carriers install.
And on my experience cooked ROM´s by our great Chefs here are always much better than the "official" ones...

Yea I agree. I think the only way ur truly going to get rid of that bloat is to flash a new ROM. Its like buying a dell computer. The only way ur gonna get rid of all of the bloat is reformat the OS.

i dont have the tilt 2 yet, but with the fuze all you had to do is do a hard reset, and then when it goes to teh screen "customizing in 3 seconds", just soft reset the phone. it worked on the fuze, and i''m assuming it should work on the tilt

when we remove the AT&T bloatware, will it remove AT&T appcenter? i'd like to keep that...considering its basically WM marketplace.

I just went to settings tab, removed the AT&T tab from Manila.
Then went to the \Device\Program Files and removed all the games manually.. As well as the Mall and whatever other things I know I'll never use.
Then I went to the Start Menu (with Resco, showing all files), removed all the AT&T shortcuts I don't need, moved stuff around..
Now it's nice'n'snappy, and I don't see any AT&T stuff I don't want.

Thats one way to do it. Of course most of the bloat is still there just more hidden now. I'm not sure if you can interrupt the customization in wm6.5 and still have a successful boot. I would think that a lot of the stuff that is in the ROM is in the base not in the customization. Thats just my assumption based on my ROM cooking knowledge

Meh.. I'm sure it's not all bloat.. I bet some of it is actually some needed fixes/tweaks for at&t network..
Whatever the case, it runs fast and we'll see how it goes.

i agree. this is way i wanna keep this rom, i just wanna cleenit up a bit.
i cant seem to overide internet tab properties (xml file in widows folder) so every time i open opera from the tab it loads att.net. i tired to modify reg and still nothing. there r also other things that drive me nuts.
i like it to be clean but i guess is just me.

Why not just cook your own ROM? You don't have to make major changes u can just remove some of the extra packages and recompile the ROM.

thats good idea. How can i extract current rom out of my phone?
would i use kitchen or do i need some other software?

emilware_v1.1 said:
Hey,
I just got mine tilt2 and i dont realy wanna start flashing it yet but i'm not liking all that att crap.
Is there a way like on the old tilt to do soft reset anfter you do clear storage to load only base software with out att stuff.
I've tried few times but with out any luck.
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omaralt said:
i dont have the tilt 2 yet, but with the fuze all you had to do is do a hard reset, and then when it goes to teh screen "customizing in 3 seconds", just soft reset the phone. it worked on the fuze, and i''m assuming it should work on the tilt
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The TP2 does not have an extended memory partition like some previous HTC devices (My old Hermes for example). That extended partition was used to hold the bloatware installers that were configured to run after the first reboot whenever the device was hard reset.
The bad news is that the bloatware is now cooked directly into the ROM by HTC.
The good news is that the space that would be lost to extended memory is usable.
Some of those cooked in bloatware apps might still be uninstallable via the remove programs applet but will still have traces left behind.
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TMobile 6.5 ROM Issues

I upgraded to TMobile's official 6.5 ROM from the stock ROM.
Earlier my memory consumption stayed between 45% - 51%, but now with same applications installed, it is at 56% (after soft-reset - which I think is not bad), but even if I don't do anything - the memory consumption keeps increasing to 70% and beyond. Using taskmgr, I see the size of gwes.exe grows with time. At startup its about 17MB, but after an hour or so, it grows to 33MB. Any ideas how to fix this?
Second, TMobile has disabled weather animations on the home screen and somebody suggested that I set:
HKCU/Software/HTC/Manila/CachedBackgroundPath to '' HKCU/Software/HTC/Manila/HomeBackgroundPath to '' and
HKCU/Software/HTC/Manila/Home.WallPaperMode to 1
After this weather animations do work, but now I am stuck with the default wallpaper, as the moment I change it, the above values are updated and the weather animations stop working. How to fix this?
Thanks

Regarding your memory issues, your findings are consistent with what many (including myself) experienced with the official HTC WinMo 6.5 update for unlocked devices.
No solution other than to flash to a cooked ROM or go back to the official WinMo 6.1 ROM for your device.
Easy way for weather animations to work and if you want to use custom wallpapers is to use the HDWall tool.

just downloaded direct from tmobile the WM 6.5 Rom and my home screen animations work perfectly. they even reanimate every time i return to the home screen. Not sure why u would be having these troubles...Sorry!

Animations are working o.k.
Consumption is a bit more, but not the numbers you are having.
My issue...whenever I boot, it gives me a time zone screen and freezes momentarily.
Any idea to fix this.
It is a stock rom downloaded directly from Tmo.
Thanks in advance.

I downloaded the the 6.5 ROM from TMobile as well.
On Home screen, with the new Sense, there are two weather animations. One that is just below the clock. This one worked with the official 6.5 ROM, but there is another weather animation that covers the entire screen on the home screen - this animation did not work till I did the registry changes mentioned in my first post.
But now I can only have the default wallpaper. Plus gwes.exe keep growing. I don't know what to do, except hardSPL and try a custom ROM.

Just found the new update also on Tmobile. Since there seems to be "bugs" on the update, minor as they are, should I wait to update and what "great" feature/s does 6.5 brings to the touch pro 2?
thanks

akashastrega said:
Animations are working o.k.
Consumption is a bit more, but not the numbers you are having.
My issue...whenever I boot, it gives me a time zone screen and freezes momentarily.
Any idea to fix this.
It is a stock rom downloaded directly from Tmo.
Thanks in advance.
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Mine does the same thing. That, and the instant messaging opening up all the time about some error message. Thats getting old.

I know this doesn't give us any answers really, but here's what I found online about gwes.exe:
"It is the Graphics, Windowing, and Events Subsystem, but it does not load the drivers. That is actually handled by another app called device.exe. Gwes.exe is purely for the user interface components and doesn't deal with the hardware layer."
Based on that, my guess would be that some element of the UI is caching info as it goes along (might be the weather interface, or something totally different), and that's what's causing it to swell as a process. I have a good feeling that one of the great minds here @ xda will be digging further into that asap, if not already

djdanska said:
Mine does the same thing. That, and the instant messaging opening up all the time about some error message. Thats getting old.
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Yeah, this is really annoying.

If you disable the HTC Resource Proxy, the Memory settles back down to what I was used to under 6.1.
Do a search, you have to edit the registry. Doesn't seem to have any adverse effects. I assume the Resource Proxy is similar to the PreFetch on Vista/7. But I would rather have the free memory as what I do on my device is pretty sporadic and I always exit out of apps when I'm done.

here is a cab

see_u_then said:
TMobile has disabled weather animations on the home screen and somebody suggested that I set:
HKCU/Software/HTC/Manila/CachedBackgroundPath to '' HKCU/Software/HTC/Manila/HomeBackgroundPath to '' and
HKCU/Software/HTC/Manila/Home.WallPaperMode to 1
After this weather animations do work, but now I am stuck with the default wallpaper, as the moment I change it, the above values are updated and the weather animations stop working. How to fix this?
Thanks
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The weather animation worked now! Thank you!

downloaded 6.5 to my tmoble tp2 ...with no issues yet

After updating, even with the 2 big cabs that cut the memory down, I can't get the TTS to work in iGO8. I know I won't need it all the time (because TTS can be so distracting while driving and listening to the radio), but it would be nice to know that I can get it.
As it is right now, I have to turn of the Sense/Manila UI, run cleanRAM (level 3), and run it to get TTS. Sometimes I have to restart after disabling Sense/Manila.

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Thanks for the cab. My memory consumption dropped by about 10%.
This cab sets reg key HKLM/Software/HTC/ResProxy/ShareMemSize to 0.
After a soft-reset, the value of ShareMemSize changes to 131072 (128KB) automatically. But this is much better then the default value which was 12971442 (> 12 MB )
Will see if this helps with memory consumption issues.

Zylograth said:
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see_u_then said:
Thanks for the cab. My memory consumption dropped by about 10%.
This cab sets reg key HKLM/Software/HTC/ResProxy/ShareMemSize to 0.
After a soft-reset, the value of ShareMemSize changes to 131072 (128KB) automatically. But this is much better then the default value which was 12971442 (> 12 MB )
Will see if this helps with memory consumption issues.
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Just curious: Why not change the value "MaxShareMemSize" -- instead or in addition to ShareMemSize? I'm asking, not saying.

Well I upgraded to 6.5 and as I thought there are some bugs. One is that when I add cities for the weather and try to remove them, the "Remove Cities" screen is blank. I can't even remove any cities.

2003evo8 said:
Well I upgraded to 6.5 and as I thought there are some bugs. One is that when I add cities for the weather and try to remove them, the "Remove Cities" screen is blank. I can't even remove any cities.
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I haven't been able to add my own cities using the Weather Database Editor at all. It takes me to the add city screen, but it never saves the city and it never appears in the full list.

I too upgraded ROMs on the 16th to 6.5. The only issues with the weather is sometimes my location is some wierd place ive never heard of. but doesnt bother me too much. what does bother me is that my program memory while only running one program would get all the way up to 90%. so after a soft reset it would drop down to 60. but running internet exp. it went right back to the 70s almost 80. so i downloaded cleanram which after cleaning went down to 60 again. but the smallest thing increases it to the mid to high 70s. ill try this .cab above and see if that helps. any other tips or ideas would be great too.

djdanska said:
Mine does the same thing. That, and the instant messaging opening up all the time about some error message. Thats getting old.
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Same thing here. And if I make any changes to my today settings it will almost always lock up my device and require a couple of soft resets to get it back to running. Sense doesn't seem very stable to me in this build IMHO.

New SEA ROM Update

Hi All
FYI - A new upodate available at HTC for SEA non-branded TP2's.
ROM Version 2.07.707.1
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
http://www.htc.com/sea/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=250&act=sd&cat=all
This one updates to a new version of Sense Ui and other stuff.
Impressions?
1. No Task Manager that can be utilised from the Home Screen (so how to change apps..?).
No Task Manager also means you can't readily see how much RAM is being hogged by the system.
2. No missed calls provision on Home Screen either..?
You do get the small icon on the top bar, a pop-up message AND the LED (green) actually flashes now - had to hack it before to do that.
3. Perhaps it's just mine, but to me the proximity sensor does not work now - it used too.
4. The shortcut Icons are stupidly large (3 per row).
5. The Programs Tab has been removed - this is a drag as the WinMo Programs area is still not dragable (just a go to the top option).
6. The Music Tab seems to now work better - at least it shows Album Art correctly now!
7. There's a Twitter Tab- not that i use it.
8. Calendar works differently.
9. Older Opera than current.
10. Older Google Maps than current.
11. It seems to be way louder than before too, both thru speaker and earpiece on a call - yay!!
12. The People Tab has changed to the new style - good.
13. FYI, SRS W0W (Sector HD2 version) still sends this version into no wakeup from Stand By mode - Damn!
13. New start animation (HTC-Simply Brilliant).
14. New background animations for Screen and Lock Screen.
15. Still can't believe that a Note file is not finger scrollable (WTF), yet Word is....
16. I have a sneaking suspicion that the battery life has taken a hit too, but unconfirmed at this point.
Lots of other changes to the UI, too numerous to make a big list.
In one way it is an improvement, although (to me) there have been a couple of backward steps, but overall, seems to be good.
One final thing, with this new UI - to me at least - it makes the scren look a little ...smaller.
Cheers
Jabberoo

wow, they give us sense 2.5? how generous...lol
but seriously, no task manager? how is the package overall? snappy or slower than 2.1? my old 6.5 upgrade is running sweetly at the moment, but this update is tempting

mr_sheen said:
wow, they give us sense 2.5? how generous...lol
but seriously, no task manager? how is the package overall? snappy or slower than 2.1? my old 6.5 upgrade is running sweetly at the moment, but this update is tempting
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Still unsure, early days.
I have some doubts that the battery life will be as good with this new update, but time will tell. It does seem a little less glitchy when using, the Home Screen seems a little overcrowded though with 2.5.
Still really don't get the no Task Manager thing, how the hell do you multi-task if you have to go through a menu series of hoops to reinstate the underlying programs that are still open.
With that, if they can't be triggered off with an X option (like on the previous versions' TM) they will all just bank up till your RAM says goodnight or you need to go into the bog standard old TM to turn them off.
Maybe I am missing something here, but this is a major oversight....
Also, as above, the no Programs Tab, means you need to use the WinMo Program list and with no real way to put things where you want them (just the Move to Top option) seems kinda dopey too.
Cheers
Jabberoo

jabberoo said:
Still unsure, early days.
I have some doubts that the battery life will be as good with this new update, but time will tell. It does seem a little less glitchy when using, the Home Screen seems a little overcrowded though with 2.5.
Still really don't get the no Task Manager thing, how the hell do you multi-task if you have to go through a menu series of hoops to reinstate the underlying programs that are still open.
With that, if they can't be triggered off with an X option (like on the previous versions' TM) they will all just bank up till your RAM says goodnight or you need to go into the bog standard old TM to turn them off.
Maybe I am missing something here, but this is a major oversight....
Also, as above, the no Programs Tab, means you need to use the WinMo Program list and with no real way to put things where you want them (just the Move to Top option) seems kinda dopey too.
Cheers
Jabberoo
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This is the interface that the HD2 got, am i right? do they new weather animation thats different than sense 2.1?
As for the no task manager, that is totally weird. You might want to write to HTC customer service about that and see what they come up with. I personally think its stupid to exclude the task manager though.
For the start menu, i usually us Joe Wilcox's awesome start thing because i cant stand the honeycomb layout. I thought it was just a mess, and one thing for sure, i never use the start menu. I just put the program tab straight up next to my home tab. So, again, i think its stupid that they got rid of the program tab as well.
How was the opera? you said that it was older right? well in the 6.1 official upgrade it was smooth when i scroll up and down on it, in yhe official 6.5 it just lags and not smooth, although the page renders perfectly. How's the opera scrolling in this package?
thank you for your response though

Move to ROM section
Would be good to move this thread to ROM section so more members can see it

AWESOME!!!
Even if Opera is older, actually renders touch.facebook.com alot better than previous releases (ie when ya tap a picture it shows up)
Google Maps 4 loads probably 3 times quicker on this rom than the first official SEA WM6.5
You can tell it to update weather and location on a schedule!! Yay!
It supports turning the ringer down when ya pick up the device, and has a pocket mode that makes it ring louder
It integrates the HTC messaging so ya dont see the ugly MS SMS app anymore
With this ROM, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a TP2 to my non tech savvy friends.
First impressions: I'm more excited than when I first got my TP2! Now to test Coreplayer and xVID AVIs (which where fine with 6.1 and not the 1st 6.5)

mr_sheen said:
This is the interface that the HD2 got, am i right? do they new weather animation thats different than sense 2.1?
As for the no task manager, that is totally weird. You might want to write to HTC customer service about that and see what they come up with. I personally think its stupid to exclude the task manager though.
For the start menu, i usually us Joe Wilcox's awesome start thing because i cant stand the honeycomb layout. I thought it was just a mess, and one thing for sure, i never use the start menu. I just put the program tab straight up next to my home tab. So, again, i think its stupid that they got rid of the program tab as well.
How was the opera? you said that it was older right? well in the 6.1 official upgrade it was smooth when i scroll up and down on it, in yhe official 6.5 it just lags and not smooth, although the page renders perfectly. How's the opera scrolling in this package?
thank you for your response though
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To the above, yes the Home Screen weather ani is there, but it was the first thing to go - seen it once and after that it just messed with resources.
The same with the annoying uber-flipping clock, maybe good on the HD2 but not so on the TP2 where it tended to be a little laggy and buggy in motion.
I added the X Touch Task Manager back in and now it is as it should have been from the start - much better.
For the Programs Tab, i grabbed Cookies Cab that did some neat stuff, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625483. The only down side with this is, as i've just discovered, is that you wont have a landscape Home Screen with the keyboard out...?
I did not really use Opera, just updated it and Google Maps straight away to the latest versions.
Overall, i think it is smoother, a little less laggy and well worth a look.
Did i mention it was louder too?
(I used the Audio Para tweak, but now do not have too)
Cheers
Jabberoo

can anyone confirm that the
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
in previous SEA 2.07 thread, it says 2.5.20121225.0
is there any differences?

x_sliver said:
can anyone confirm that the
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
in previous SEA 2.07 thread, it says 2.5.20121225.0
is there any differences?
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I have the same question, too

Contacts & Messaging sucks
While I can agree with some of the improvements that they have made, both contacts and messaging has been screwed up, a big mess.
Often one of this makes the phone hang and should say that I have reset the phone on more occasions in the last 2 days than I have done it in the last 6 months.
Missing feature of Task Manager from the task bar and the Program Tabs are a big let down.
Damn I am now waiting to get the next release, if we will have one.

anybody knows how to cut the RAM usage down at the start? my old official Sense 2.1 managed to started up at 42 % RAM after the resproxy tweaks and no push internet tweak. It seems that in this ROM those tweeks seems to do nothing, After i did the tweak on this Sense 2.5 ROM, the it starts up at 47%.
Anything new then? Plus there seems to be new entry in the resproxy registry called maxsharememsize or something like that. Should we put that to 0?

Does anyone encountered the standby of dead issue in this rom? I have this problem when the first time i lock my phone and go to standby mode from the fresh boot up and it just wouldn't wakeup after i press the power on button. It seems the solution is to wait a little bit longer after you lock your phone then only switch the phone off. I have not seen this problem in previous official sea rom.

i am now seriously considering switching back to the official sense 2.1
why?
1. The resproxy and no push internet tweak doesnt work. My Ram shot >70% after a day where i use all the feature (twitter tab,album,music,lock screen etc)
2. The messaging app is just...bad. It lags and not responsive sonewhat. Plus after a soft reset it reads the sms that i have in inbox as coming from my sim card contact rather than phone contact. Glitchy.
3. It seems pretty quick after a hard reset, but after all the contacts is in and weather updated + software and such, the home screen and the whoke experience started to lag.
overall i think they should just keep the 2.5 to the HD2 i guess. Our TP2 just wont cut it...

Hi jabberoo, how do you get back the X Touch Task Manager back?

shortly after applying this ROM, my TP2 fell of the window sill and bounced off the bench into the sink
Its away getting insurance quotes, etc. Having to rely on my Dopod 838 Pro. Yuck...

overall, this new official ROM is far much better than sense 2.1 altho u have to be a lil'conservative on opening programs. One feature I still can get to work perfectly...the FB photo albums on contacts. Not a single pic that I've seen appear on the album,eventho they did show the respective album names and number of pics inside.

Does it Have Vietnamese roms?
Do you think HTC SEA have vietnamese language? how do you switch to another language in HTC WM 6.5.xx?

haoren said:
Hi jabberoo, how do you get back the X Touch Task Manager back?
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Hi
Not sure of the question here...
You grab the "Touch X Taskmanager.cab", install it, go to settings/system and configure it, voila....!
I found the "Touch_X_Homescreen_Flip_clock_OFF.cab" is good too, getting rid of the unneccessary flipping action which becomes irritating after a short time, the "Touch_X_Left_softkey_as_camera.cab" is worthwhile too, instead of doubling up for Phone or using a quick link space for it.
Hope that helps...
BTW, the Mods to expand the Quick Links (HD2 tweaks) are all useless at this point, handy but useless, as they break Landscape mode with the Keyboard in the out position.
I am still finding that a GPS lock using TomTom can take several minutes to execute on this ROM, so no improvement there. It does work well, just can sometimes take a while to lock (but eventually does...)
Cheers to all
Jabberoo

I had noticed that with the Facebook Albums, too. I'm going to lodge a thing with HTC once I have my phone again...
As for the GPS lock taking several minutes: I get that with a brand new TomTom Go 750 if I travel to a different location with it off, then turn it on. I used to think the TP2 was a POS in that regard, but when the TomTom did it I thought that maybe it wasn't specific to the TP2.

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Does anyone encountered the standby of dead issue in this rom? I have this problem when the first time i lock my phone and go to standby mode from the fresh boot up and it just wouldn't wakeup after i press the power on button. It seems the solution is to wait a little bit longer after you lock your phone then only switch the phone off. I have not seen this problem in previous official sea rom.
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Never had this issue with the ROM.
I tried to utilise SRS WOW (which is great) but this Standby issue was the end result on the TP2 (any ROM), which was a shame....
Cheers
Jabberoo

SMS Hotfix to Test

Greetings All,
Well after 1 1/2 days of searching with no help or guidenance from anyone, (Sorry but alittle annoyed that no one likes to help, but I'll get over it) I managed to wrap up a hotfix for our SMS problem with lagging and not beng able to txt. I am currently testing this to see how it is working, and so far, on an install level it went without a hitch.
This is not a fix for a noob, I STRONGLY suggest noobs do not attempt this hotfix, I am not responsible for bricking, crashing, loss of data, or frying of your phone! I assume no responsiblitly and if you attempt this you are doing so with knowing the risks that come with this!
Now since that is out of the way:
This hotfix is actually the last hotfix for the HD2 that was dated 1/24/2010. As far as I know the last fix corrected the issue of being able to txt while the thread loaded in the background, and since Seppi the good soul came up with migrating the fix to tp2 but was a much older version (1.5.2011.2130) I decided I wasnt waiting for HTC and decided to take their HD2 hotfix and do the same thing Seppi did and here it is.
HotFix Compatability:
All 2.07.40x Manila 2.5 Roms. NOT COMPATABILE WITH ANY PRIOR OR FUTURE ROMS. All Languages Supported.
You Have to turn off Manila by going to Settings/All Settings/Today/Items and pick windows default. Also make SURE HTC messaging is not running or the hotfix will not install.
It will ask you to install either on the Device or SDCard. MUST BE INSTALLED ON DEVICE.
Fixes: (2)
1) Fixes the SMS lag we all have been dealing with and not being able to type as the whole thread loads. Now SMS's load in background.
2) So Far fixes the loss of contact picture, this is due to a resetting of the phone and associates SMS's to sim card and loses association with phone contact.
Known Bugs: (3)
1) Same as in the HD2 at times the screen when rotating from landscape to portrait might mix up the last line where the last line and the one above it merge, going back to landscape corrects this. Does not happen from portrait to landscape.
2) All prior SMS's might not associate with the corresponding phone contacts.
3) This MAY reset your MMS settings and will need to re-enter MMS info. based on your service provider. You can reach this by tabing to Msgs/All msgs/Menu/Settings/Options/Menu/MMS Server. Select SampleMMSC to change your settings Manually.
Or going to Settings/All Settings/Connections/Connections Setup and going through the wizard again.
Notes:
I have attached two files, One is a direct install with no way to uninstall it, this is how I have it setup and is working. The other file has an uninstall feature incase of anything can be removed. I have not tested the one with the uninstall feature to see if it would work that way, but Your free to test it out.
To know if the hotfix has been applied, to go Msgs/All Msgs/Menu/About if successful, your app build should be 1.5 (Build 2011.3631) The original version on the TP2 was Build 2011.3831.
Any comments good or bad Feel Free.

75 Views and no one has anything to say? Gee wonder about that one.
And no one willing to try it huh? Well I can tell you this much it has made a difference so far, and it seems it might have fixed two POSSIBLE problems as well:
1) I have no SOD as of yet since doing this, even with weather animation.
2) No screen going black while typing or right after hitting send.

What can I say... If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
Others who have this problem might chance it but since I don't I'm not gonna stuff up a stable phone just to see if it breaks it....

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What can I say... If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
Others who have this problem might chance it but since I don't I'm not gonna stuff up a stable phone just to see if it breaks it....
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Oh it's broke alright. I haven't looked in these forums in a while. I gave up waiting for somebody to get a fix for this but I was curious and decided to take a peek in here to see what people are up to. The reason "it ain't broke" for some people is because they either don't have much sms volume or they clean out their inbox on a regular basis. For those of us who have a large volume of sms and don't have the time to clean out our inbox, it's definitely broke.
Anyway, you don't know how happy I am to see this fix! Thanks so much. I'm going to try it and I'll report back.
One question though...You say it's for manila 2.5...I'm not real fluent with the whole manila speak so I'm not sure if this will work on my phone. I've got a att tilt2 with the stock 6.5 rom running spb mobile shell. Will this update work on my phone?

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75 Views and no one has anything to say? Gee wonder about that one.
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Explanation: People like me see the title and wonder: "What's this?". So I click on it and see it's a solution for a problem that I don't have and haven't even heard of...so I have no comment on it. There's no big mystery about it nor any reason to take it personally.

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Oh it's broke alright. I haven't looked in these forums in a while. I gave up waiting for somebody to get a fix for this but I was curious and decided to take a peek in here to see what people are up to. The reason "it ain't broke" for some people is because they either don't have much sms volume or they clean out their inbox on a regular basis. For those of us who have a large volume of sms and don't have the time to clean out our inbox, it's definitely broke.
Anyway, you don't know how happy I am to see this fix! Thanks so much. I'm going to try it and I'll report back.
One question though...You say it's for manila 2.5...I'm not real fluent with the whole manila speak so I'm not sure if this will work on my phone. I've got a att tilt2 with the stock 6.5 rom running spb mobile shell. Will this update work on my phone?
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The Stock 6.5 that came with your phone is WinMo 6.5 Manila 2.1, it will not work with this version I do not suggest it at all. This version is for anyone who HardSPL-ed their phone and are using any of the generic HTC Roms without any Service Provider Bloatware. I would Add Customized Roms to the list but I think most Customized roms removed the 2.5 msging app from their cooked roms.
MCbrian
The people who dont have this problem either are using stock Roms from providers that have the 2.1 version of the app which didnt have this issue, or are people with the New Roms that are not heavy sms users, Or are using cooked roms without the 2.5 manila app in the rom and have reverted back to the WM msging app.
BTW FYI HTC didnt make the new msging system, its a 3rd party app, originally made by Jataaya, but was bought out by a company in india called ComViva which actually makes the app I believe.

Hi
Just installed the fix: looks like now SMS application has much better options, it just works better. I restored 500 messages, as for now it works smoothly. No hung after sending message. I'll test it for few more days, but even now I can say it fixes the buggy app!
And quick question: bulid version of the fix suggest it is 'previous' version (3631 instead of 3831). How is it?

and regarding SOD: had it 3 times already since instaling hotfix, but it is not rather related to hotfix. Just want to tell that hotfix doesn't fix SOD...

pilik said:
Hi
Just installed the fix: looks like now SMS application has much better options, it just works better. I restored 500 messages, as for now it works smoothly. No hung after sending message. I'll test it for few more days, but even now I can say it fixes the buggy app!
And quick question: bulid version of the fix suggest it is 'previous' version (3631 instead of 3831). How is it?
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Glad to hear it fixed your problem. Question, did you use the uninstallable cab or the direct cab?
The reason for the version difference again is that HD2 software versioning is different then TP2, HD2 jumped from 2031, where The stock TP2 6.5 Manila 2.5 had the 3831 Being that its from HD its the same app but different build #'s.
And thanx for the feedback and about the SOD being the only one who was using it and not having the issue anymore I thought maybe it had something to do with the fix, but thats why I said POSSIBILITY cause being the sole user I had nothing else to go on.
Glad I made a difference. Thanx.

I used version with uninstall option. After another day of testing I confirm it fixes the most annoying behaviour of HTC SMS app. Sad that many people complain about the bug, not many want to try the fix- just look at the threads...
Regarding SOD: I contacted HTC service, they advised to upgrade the firmware (that's why I had to test the hotfix), now they say I have to 'repair' the device. I'll try. My company uses more than 40 TP2s, I am the only one who enocounters SOD. Maybe it is really broken...
Once again - thanks for the fix!

OK, I've installed the un-installable version, so far it seems to work well - the HTC messaging has never run so quick.
I'll keep an eye on it over the coming days.

much more smooth now! thanks!

Agreed, I also installed the removable version and it seems to work all ok, certainly much better than before!. This maybe a coincidence but when I flick through my picture album now (full screen images), sometimes it takes 2 or 3 'flicks' to get to the next image, don't remember it being like this before. It could be that the images are about 4mb a file, hhmm, will have a look at this.

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Agreed, I also installed the removable version and it seems to work all ok, certainly much better than before!. This maybe a coincidence but when I flick through my picture album now (full screen images), sometimes it takes 2 or 3 'flicks' to get to the next image, don't remember it being like this before. It could be that the images are about 4mb a file, hhmm, will have a look at this.
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The SMS Hot fix does not change any files that have to do with HTC Album, so it either is coincidence, or you were not aware of it before. But I assure you the two are completely unrelated.

AngelDeath said:
The SMS Hot fix does not change any files that have to do with HTC Album, so it either is coincidence, or you were not aware of it before. But I assure you the two are completely unrelated.
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That's what I thought, have just resized them, now only 1.49mb a file Definately better so must just have been a coincidence, will resize again properly when I'm back home to see if it's any better. flippin annoying! lol.

I have tilt 2 energy rom, will this work for my phone? the sms lag is bugging the crap out of me.. Thanks in advance!

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I just installed it on two us t-mobile hd2's. One is the orignal rom and the other is the updated rom. Both are responding much better to sms. The new rom is working almost perfect 99% better than it was. The orignal rom has 85% ish increase in speed so I would say that this cab is very much worth the install.
Thanks for you work.

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I figured I better give some more info.
I lost no sms info on either device.
I have had no issues in any of the other functions on either phones.
So again thanks for the work.