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Vogue Custom ROMs ?

Anyone out there brave enough to share up their OEM ROM?
Or even the original WWE from HTC?
From what I understand, there's at least 3 carriers in NA w/ HTC Vogue: AFAIK, we've got Sprint, Bell and Telus.
People, share up your ROM!

Doesn't look like there are too many people who want to help you with this. I'm looking into swapping my Titan for a Vogue in the near future so once I have it I will find out how to dump the Rom and see whats even possible. I would say that the only real reason to build a custom ROM with this particular device would be to remove all of the bloatware from Sprint. It is the TOUCH, the epitome. It is what everyone else here is trying to replicate. Why change it except to maybe change the page pool or remove unwanted apps? It's already great as it is.

I hate the sprint bloatware - forced Sprint page start up on mobile IE, etc, I dislike what Sprint has done with the ROM. more then willing to be a test case.

actually....
actually it is possible and the oem roms are posted if you search.
I have a touch and i've had it since they day it came out. A couple weeks after it was released ImCokeMan released a patched SPL to allow you to flash with custom roms.
There are also OEM Roms for the Touch from Sprint readily available if you do a little searching. I'd suggest checking out ppcgeeks.com
btw... i've cooked several custom roms for the Sprint Touch (Vogue). The thing is that the Touch (Vogue) has a pretty solid, high performance rom to begin with. There are only a few modifications that anyone would even desire in a custom rom at this point...
again "search" is your friend.

Thx; however, there's only a couple out there from Sprint... I was hoping to try out some other OEMs....
Vogue is a pretty strong ROM... not much to add to it except GPS and WIFI... that's the "million dollars question...

I just want the strip down non-sprint OEM ROM.

jessiethe3rd said:
I just want the strip down non-sprint OEM ROM.
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This could also be problematic... Without the extras that Sprint adds onto the ROM(barring Pocket IE), it could affect the phone functions as well couldn't it? This is not a standard GSM phone we are talking about here that simply needs a Network Wizard to automatically configure for carrier. This is a little more advanced.

I believe removing all non-OEM settings/apps from the ROM might render it not usable on their network.
However, one way is to input some network settings manually afterwards....
##778# gives you some details to maybe copy manually....

For Bell, my touch has
the radio version of 1.59.1 and rom version 1.17

Well I think that someone needs to build some kind of custom ROM if anything. The Touch has a bad memory leak in the official ROM. If you leave the device on, plugged in and turned on, for more than 24 hours you will notice a considerable memory leak. The device has 128Mb of RAM and after soft-reset with nothing running on the device other than the OS, it has 77Mb free. After being turned on for more than 25 hours without soft-reset, it only has less than 45Mb free. That more than 30Mb leak is a big problem for anyone looking to max out their system and add all of the latest and greatest apps and games for their phones.

dharvey4651 said:
Well I think that someone needs to build some kind of custom ROM if anything. The Touch has a bad memory leak in the official ROM. If you leave the device on, plugged in and turned on, for more than 24 hours you will notice a considerable memory leak. The device has 128Mb of RAM and after soft-reset with nothing running on the device other than the OS, it has 77Mb free. After being turned on for more than 25 hours without soft-reset, it only has less than 45Mb free. That more than 30Mb leak is a big problem for anyone looking to max out their system and add all of the latest and greatest apps and games for their phones.
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I thought this was a bug in WM6 in general. I have seen alot of Mogul users complain about this as well.

It is a common problem with most Windows Mobile 6 based devices but I have seen it fixed. It's a major leak I'm talking about though. Nothing small and annoying, but a BIG leak that is aggravating.

telus rom
I will give you a copy of my telus rom if you tell me how to dump it, I'm kind of a noob

From what's mentioned, it seems as though my Bell Touch is pretty much a bare ROM, not much bloatware installed by bell, and what's there is easily removed. It even comes preloaded with Esmertec Jbed.
Pretty cool, as canadian providers usually cripple the crap out of their phones. I hope this is a sign of change in our mobile industry.

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For Bell, my touch has
the radio version of 1.59.1 and rom version 1.17
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My touch has Rom 1.16.666.1
Radio: 1.59.00
Would be nice if bell released updates regularly

I read a post on PPCGeeks that said you can by-pass the Sprint customizations. In the post it said the only thing you have to do is manually load the cabs for Sprint TC and Win Live. I have been thinking about doing a Hard Reset anyway to clean out some of the foot prints left by things I have installed and then removed.
I will give it a try and report back.

dan-htc-touch said:
I will give you a copy of my telus rom if you tell me how to dump it, I'm kind of a noob
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Thanks Dan!
Sorry about the delay..... I'll try get u some straight forward instructions on this one!
FYI, for those interested, Bell has released a new ROM but not much has changed in it tho. But, at least, we have a official WWE ROM to play with
HOW-TO update
http://www.utstarcom.com/pcd/downloads/MP6900BM Bell Aliant Update Instructions.doc
BELL VOGUE ROM
http://www.utstarcom.com/pcd/downlo...1.17.666.1_1.59.10_BM_NV133_PRL31398_Ship.exe
ROM version: 1.17.666.1
Radio version: 1.59.10

i would also be interested in the telus rom.I installed a sprint custom rom but i dont like it and would like to go back to original rom.If anyone could help me thanks a millll

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I read a post on PPCGeeks that said you can by-pass the Sprint customizations. In the post it said the only thing you have to do is manually load the cabs for Sprint TC and Win Live. I have been thinking about doing a Hard Reset anyway to clean out some of the foot prints left by things I have installed and then removed.
I will give it a try and report back.
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Yes, you can opt out of most of the Sprint stuff at the initial power on of the device. Immediately when the Vogue launches into windows and the theme is still at the teal WM6 default a popup appears with a 3 second timer set to press YES. If you press NO then it does not load up the black Sprint theme (your sign that it did not go through) and the expected stuff. I am not positive if a hard reset will take you back to that point.

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Yes, you can opt out of most of the Sprint stuff at the initial power on of the device. Immediately when the Vogue launches into windows and the theme is still at the teal WM6 default a popup appears with a 3 second timer set to press YES. If you press NO then it does not load up the black Sprint theme (your sign that it did not go through) and the expected stuff. I am not positive if a hard reset will take you back to that point.
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After I loaded the ROM without the Sprint customizations I had problems with voicemail. I got a VM and I could not get the notification to go away no matter what I did. I have got back to the Sprint customizations and I have not had any problems

My Tilt 2 observations

Less than 24 hours into the phone and not fully explored but ...
1. As discussed elsewhere, the Snooze and Alarm issues suck. No Snooze intervals. "Next Alarm" does not show.
2. Receipt of txt msg. does not light up the screen, but I wonder if this is merely a setting in sounds and notifications
3. Default browser in the tf3d tabs blows. Does not appear it can be reset to another browser.
4. Call list does not show pics of the callers that are saved with their contact information.
5. The threaded texts are ok and I suppose I will get used to it but I am not cool with seeing my own outbound texts show up in my INBOX with the designation "me".
I have NOT installed any of my spb products or other cabs yet. Just feeling it out. One of the greatest tweaks was reassigning the PTT to Voice Recorder and I am hoping to do that with the T2.
I will experiment with disabling tf3d soon enough and maybe that will resolve some of these issues.
Big thanks to the XDA crew for the tips, tweaks and cabs that helped me customize my original Tilt and I am looking forward to what you guys can do with the T2.

i kept the at&t rom on there for like 10 mins. i flashed a few different cooked roms, but settled on the offical htc 6.5 rom. very fast, stable, and much less bloatware. i would advise flashing a new rom asap, before u set up all ur preferences.

I also agree that you will be much happier on any of the custom roms, or the stock HTC rom.
Unfortunately AT&T loaded so much garbage onto the tilt2 that the phone is sluggish and just not fun to use.
Once you get a better rom.... you'll love the phone.

omaralt said:
i kept the at&t rom on there for like 10 mins. i flashed a few different cooked roms, but settled on the offical htc 6.5 rom. very fast, stable, and much less bloatware. i would advise flashing a new rom asap, before u set up all ur preferences.
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Well, I am still screwing around with it but I disabled TF3D and then installed SPB MS 3.5. I have not installed any of the MS tweak cabs though.
The screen clarity and the keyboard make it worth the price of admission to me. I think I paid 199.
Will flashing over the HTC ROM give me the keyboard issue that is mentioned in another thread? ATT has managed to set new records in crapware. On the Tilt 1 I could hard reset and soft reset, eliminating the crapware. Does that work on this T2?

I have to say, I've had no problems making the ATT one work for me. First, I purchased 16GB micro SD external storage. Started deleting all the extra misc files that come with the ATT, demo music etc.. moved pictures/albums off to external.
Then I've gone through and started throwing on some of the tweaks. Removed bottom bar, disabled internet push, increased Opera tabs, removed Opera from staying in memory, threw on some of the extra camera modes, and hit up some of the common reg edits.
I've had no problems with the phone's performance now. Fast as ever. The Opera in memory was the largest performance upgrade since I saved about 10% memory.

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I have to say, I've had no problems making the ATT one work for me....
removed Opera from staying in memory, threw on some of the extra camera modes, and hit up some of the common reg edits.
The phone works ok; no "problems" just preference issues.
How did you take Opera out of memory? For a 10% boost in device memory I'ld do that, even though I also typically run with a 8gb card (which I have not put in yet...and how freakin wierd to have the slot where it can not be quickly accessed!)
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First I disabled Push Internet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532948
install the NoPushInternet_v2.CAB
Second I forced Opera to close upon exiting instead of minimizing (taken from tweaks sticky)
* Go to: HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System
* There delete Opera9.exe (now it will show in the task manager)
* Go to: HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\TerminateProcess
* There, create a DWORD with the name Opera9.exe value "1"

omaralt said:
i kept the at&t rom on there for like 10 mins. i flashed a few different cooked roms, but settled on the offical htc 6.5 rom. very fast, stable, and much less bloatware. i would advise flashing a new rom asap, before u set up all ur preferences.
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If I find, download, and use the official HTC 6.5 ROM, would this:
A: Void warranty?
B: Remove any software, ect that would handicap my Tilt 2 in any way?

rajuabju said:
I also agree that you will be much happier on any of the custom roms, or the stock HTC rom.
Unfortunately AT&T loaded so much garbage onto the tilt2 that the phone is sluggish and just not fun to use.
Once you get a better rom.... you'll love the phone.
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Where could I find the stock HTC Rom?

DLTempler said:
Well, I am still screwing around with it but I disabled TF3D and then installed SPB MS 3.5. I have not installed any of the MS tweak cabs though.
The screen clarity and the keyboard make it worth the price of admission to me. I think I paid 199.
Will flashing over the HTC ROM give me the keyboard issue that is mentioned in another thread? ATT has managed to set new records in crapware. On the Tilt 1 I could hard reset and soft reset, eliminating the crapware. Does that work on this T2?
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Yes you will have the keyboard issue. But installed the keyboard cab fix and you're set to go. I'm using it and works great.
No, the hard/soft reset wont eliminate crapware sadly. You need to go to another ROM. Trust me, you wont look back.

why does everyone say that their screen doesn't light up when the get an SMS? Is Tmobile the only carrier that kept this feature in, because mine lights up every time.
if you don't like the threaded SMS you can disable it with Advanced Config.

SMS Hotfix to Test

Greetings All,
Well after 1 1/2 days of searching with no help or guidenance from anyone, (Sorry but alittle annoyed that no one likes to help, but I'll get over it) I managed to wrap up a hotfix for our SMS problem with lagging and not beng able to txt. I am currently testing this to see how it is working, and so far, on an install level it went without a hitch.
This is not a fix for a noob, I STRONGLY suggest noobs do not attempt this hotfix, I am not responsible for bricking, crashing, loss of data, or frying of your phone! I assume no responsiblitly and if you attempt this you are doing so with knowing the risks that come with this!
Now since that is out of the way:
This hotfix is actually the last hotfix for the HD2 that was dated 1/24/2010. As far as I know the last fix corrected the issue of being able to txt while the thread loaded in the background, and since Seppi the good soul came up with migrating the fix to tp2 but was a much older version (1.5.2011.2130) I decided I wasnt waiting for HTC and decided to take their HD2 hotfix and do the same thing Seppi did and here it is.
HotFix Compatability:
All 2.07.40x Manila 2.5 Roms. NOT COMPATABILE WITH ANY PRIOR OR FUTURE ROMS. All Languages Supported.
You Have to turn off Manila by going to Settings/All Settings/Today/Items and pick windows default. Also make SURE HTC messaging is not running or the hotfix will not install.
It will ask you to install either on the Device or SDCard. MUST BE INSTALLED ON DEVICE.
Fixes: (2)
1) Fixes the SMS lag we all have been dealing with and not being able to type as the whole thread loads. Now SMS's load in background.
2) So Far fixes the loss of contact picture, this is due to a resetting of the phone and associates SMS's to sim card and loses association with phone contact.
Known Bugs: (3)
1) Same as in the HD2 at times the screen when rotating from landscape to portrait might mix up the last line where the last line and the one above it merge, going back to landscape corrects this. Does not happen from portrait to landscape.
2) All prior SMS's might not associate with the corresponding phone contacts.
3) This MAY reset your MMS settings and will need to re-enter MMS info. based on your service provider. You can reach this by tabing to Msgs/All msgs/Menu/Settings/Options/Menu/MMS Server. Select SampleMMSC to change your settings Manually.
Or going to Settings/All Settings/Connections/Connections Setup and going through the wizard again.
Notes:
I have attached two files, One is a direct install with no way to uninstall it, this is how I have it setup and is working. The other file has an uninstall feature incase of anything can be removed. I have not tested the one with the uninstall feature to see if it would work that way, but Your free to test it out.
To know if the hotfix has been applied, to go Msgs/All Msgs/Menu/About if successful, your app build should be 1.5 (Build 2011.3631) The original version on the TP2 was Build 2011.3831.
Any comments good or bad Feel Free.

75 Views and no one has anything to say? Gee wonder about that one.
And no one willing to try it huh? Well I can tell you this much it has made a difference so far, and it seems it might have fixed two POSSIBLE problems as well:
1) I have no SOD as of yet since doing this, even with weather animation.
2) No screen going black while typing or right after hitting send.

What can I say... If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
Others who have this problem might chance it but since I don't I'm not gonna stuff up a stable phone just to see if it breaks it....

ultramag69 said:
What can I say... If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
Others who have this problem might chance it but since I don't I'm not gonna stuff up a stable phone just to see if it breaks it....
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Oh it's broke alright. I haven't looked in these forums in a while. I gave up waiting for somebody to get a fix for this but I was curious and decided to take a peek in here to see what people are up to. The reason "it ain't broke" for some people is because they either don't have much sms volume or they clean out their inbox on a regular basis. For those of us who have a large volume of sms and don't have the time to clean out our inbox, it's definitely broke.
Anyway, you don't know how happy I am to see this fix! Thanks so much. I'm going to try it and I'll report back.
One question though...You say it's for manila 2.5...I'm not real fluent with the whole manila speak so I'm not sure if this will work on my phone. I've got a att tilt2 with the stock 6.5 rom running spb mobile shell. Will this update work on my phone?

AngelDeath said:
75 Views and no one has anything to say? Gee wonder about that one.
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Explanation: People like me see the title and wonder: "What's this?". So I click on it and see it's a solution for a problem that I don't have and haven't even heard of...so I have no comment on it. There's no big mystery about it nor any reason to take it personally.

imeraz said:
Oh it's broke alright. I haven't looked in these forums in a while. I gave up waiting for somebody to get a fix for this but I was curious and decided to take a peek in here to see what people are up to. The reason "it ain't broke" for some people is because they either don't have much sms volume or they clean out their inbox on a regular basis. For those of us who have a large volume of sms and don't have the time to clean out our inbox, it's definitely broke.
Anyway, you don't know how happy I am to see this fix! Thanks so much. I'm going to try it and I'll report back.
One question though...You say it's for manila 2.5...I'm not real fluent with the whole manila speak so I'm not sure if this will work on my phone. I've got a att tilt2 with the stock 6.5 rom running spb mobile shell. Will this update work on my phone?
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The Stock 6.5 that came with your phone is WinMo 6.5 Manila 2.1, it will not work with this version I do not suggest it at all. This version is for anyone who HardSPL-ed their phone and are using any of the generic HTC Roms without any Service Provider Bloatware. I would Add Customized Roms to the list but I think most Customized roms removed the 2.5 msging app from their cooked roms.
MCbrian
The people who dont have this problem either are using stock Roms from providers that have the 2.1 version of the app which didnt have this issue, or are people with the New Roms that are not heavy sms users, Or are using cooked roms without the 2.5 manila app in the rom and have reverted back to the WM msging app.
BTW FYI HTC didnt make the new msging system, its a 3rd party app, originally made by Jataaya, but was bought out by a company in india called ComViva which actually makes the app I believe.

Hi
Just installed the fix: looks like now SMS application has much better options, it just works better. I restored 500 messages, as for now it works smoothly. No hung after sending message. I'll test it for few more days, but even now I can say it fixes the buggy app!
And quick question: bulid version of the fix suggest it is 'previous' version (3631 instead of 3831). How is it?

and regarding SOD: had it 3 times already since instaling hotfix, but it is not rather related to hotfix. Just want to tell that hotfix doesn't fix SOD...

pilik said:
Hi
Just installed the fix: looks like now SMS application has much better options, it just works better. I restored 500 messages, as for now it works smoothly. No hung after sending message. I'll test it for few more days, but even now I can say it fixes the buggy app!
And quick question: bulid version of the fix suggest it is 'previous' version (3631 instead of 3831). How is it?
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Glad to hear it fixed your problem. Question, did you use the uninstallable cab or the direct cab?
The reason for the version difference again is that HD2 software versioning is different then TP2, HD2 jumped from 2031, where The stock TP2 6.5 Manila 2.5 had the 3831 Being that its from HD its the same app but different build #'s.
And thanx for the feedback and about the SOD being the only one who was using it and not having the issue anymore I thought maybe it had something to do with the fix, but thats why I said POSSIBILITY cause being the sole user I had nothing else to go on.
Glad I made a difference. Thanx.

I used version with uninstall option. After another day of testing I confirm it fixes the most annoying behaviour of HTC SMS app. Sad that many people complain about the bug, not many want to try the fix- just look at the threads...
Regarding SOD: I contacted HTC service, they advised to upgrade the firmware (that's why I had to test the hotfix), now they say I have to 'repair' the device. I'll try. My company uses more than 40 TP2s, I am the only one who enocounters SOD. Maybe it is really broken...
Once again - thanks for the fix!

OK, I've installed the un-installable version, so far it seems to work well - the HTC messaging has never run so quick.
I'll keep an eye on it over the coming days.

much more smooth now! thanks!

Agreed, I also installed the removable version and it seems to work all ok, certainly much better than before!. This maybe a coincidence but when I flick through my picture album now (full screen images), sometimes it takes 2 or 3 'flicks' to get to the next image, don't remember it being like this before. It could be that the images are about 4mb a file, hhmm, will have a look at this.

Allen Mead said:
Agreed, I also installed the removable version and it seems to work all ok, certainly much better than before!. This maybe a coincidence but when I flick through my picture album now (full screen images), sometimes it takes 2 or 3 'flicks' to get to the next image, don't remember it being like this before. It could be that the images are about 4mb a file, hhmm, will have a look at this.
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The SMS Hot fix does not change any files that have to do with HTC Album, so it either is coincidence, or you were not aware of it before. But I assure you the two are completely unrelated.

AngelDeath said:
The SMS Hot fix does not change any files that have to do with HTC Album, so it either is coincidence, or you were not aware of it before. But I assure you the two are completely unrelated.
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That's what I thought, have just resized them, now only 1.49mb a file Definately better so must just have been a coincidence, will resize again properly when I'm back home to see if it's any better. flippin annoying! lol.

I have tilt 2 energy rom, will this work for my phone? the sms lag is bugging the crap out of me.. Thanks in advance!

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I just installed it on two us t-mobile hd2's. One is the orignal rom and the other is the updated rom. Both are responding much better to sms. The new rom is working almost perfect 99% better than it was. The orignal rom has 85% ish increase in speed so I would say that this cab is very much worth the install.
Thanks for you work.

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I figured I better give some more info.
I lost no sms info on either device.
I have had no issues in any of the other functions on either phones.
So again thanks for the work.

My Review so far on the new with sense 2.1 (4/23 Build)

this is just personal opnion, but this version blows away the 3/31 build. i juss had issues with data not wrkn but i fixed it with the tips in the threads. I hear people talk of stability. well, to me, this new sense version moves way faster and smoother. really. juss make sure to cut off the 3d harware box..it isnt wrkn and will slow things up. i have more features working in this install than the 3/31 build.
my last install didnt load all the folders right and i never saw a keyboard selector or update. checked thru everywhere in device, no luck..but it still worked, i juss couldnt auto update and i was getting hung up trying to change the files. Now, with this new install...everything is perfect..lol i know have "andboot" folder....my last install named it "Android" and no matter how many different ways to change folder name or replace, it didint work. Now all i gotta do is auto update..which i did with this install also..wrks perfect. now my my dual boot wont recognize it...i tried to different versions the 1.05 and 1.06 Gene Y dual boot cabs, no luck..not worried though, i figure it soon enough.
almost half the day been on Sense...i always keep a charger close by. lol for all the skeptical people, wifi does work..i tested it..its pickn up signals...my 03/31 install didnt wrk..as far as wifi goes...im making and recieving phone calls...juss set your calls and txts and emails to vibrate...it works..all my data wrkn perfect...i got opera mini 5 up here along with a ton of stuff i downloaded..lol
A smart move to do is to use your Astro Explorer and press menu to back up data/apps..u can bck up all ur dwnloaded stuff from the market or wherever..and be able to reinstall them if u ever reinstall a new xdandroid version or somethng. ive did install/uninstall numerous times already..so knowing i still have my programs backed up is good. get opera if u havent....its way faster thn the android one. i got programs im dying to use once everything wrks on this build like my morse coder or the virtual walkie talkie apps..i cant say enuff how truly amazed with this forum, its members, and the Feats being accomplished here. and they do this for free...Unbelievable...THANK YOU DEVELOPERS N ALL WHO MADE THIS BUILD POSSIBLE. i cant wait to show this off to my pops and friends back home...ima blow their mind...
Im staying with Sense 2.1........cuz IT MAKES SENSE...lmao
to me this is better than last version and moves faster, at least on my tilt2 it does...oh and if u want true speed readings, get the Speedtest.net app frm da market..its free... if u think im pulling your chain on this build, juss look at da sig..im on android sense now on xda app..wit no problems..im goin crazy ova here on how cool this is...i just joined this site not too long ago n already got my phone on a whole new level of being upgraded..i got all da fixes. 3D DRIVERS...DA LIST Goes on and on..too cool
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How did you disable 3d hardware?
Love the sense interface on android

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How did you disable 3d hardware?
Love the sense interface on android
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in your startup.txt change hw3d.force=1 to hw3d.force=0

psyopstt said:
in your startup.txt change hw3d.force=1 to hw3d.force=0
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Or if you're using the startup utility then just uncheck the box.

i think I've confirmed that rooted apps and WiFi tethering works on this build. i downloaded barnacle wifi tethering app from the marketplace that said ur device needed to be rooted in order to work. well it seems to wrk. i know wifi wrks for sure and data, so therotically should. i gave my old tilt to my mom so cant test right this second but the program runs fine and commands say its broadcasting successfull. goodnight..lol
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Which installer did you use? The .cab or the .rar?

demandarin- would you say the new build is stable for the majority of Android features? What's your opinion on using it as your default OS system for the Tilt 2?

hey
this is a great version and i think its basically usable for people who arent dying for the GPS, bluetooth, and camera. the one thing that is killing it for me though is the lack of the speaker and headphone jack working. that is the only features preventing me from using it all the time.
i know these guys are making great progress but does anyone have any idea when theyre gonna at least solve that issue? because im sure that would bump up its mass appeal

Running_Roti said:
hey
this is a great version and i think its basically usable for people who arent dying for the GPS, bluetooth, and camera. the one thing that is killing it for me though is the lack of the speaker and headphone jack working. that is the only features preventing me from using it all the time.
i know these guys are making great progress but does anyone have any idea when theyre gonna at least solve that issue? because im sure that would bump up its mass appeal
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They work on this daily. It could be tomorrow, it could be never. There is no time line, or guarantee.

demandarin- would you say the new build is stable for the majority of Android features? What's your opinion on using it as your default OS system for the Tilt 2?
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its pretty stable, to me. it isn't my default OS yet but keeping it on longer and longer everyday. I be pushing da limits on this build. as far as apps and modding Android within itself. essential functions wrk like being able to make/receive calls, txts,data,WiFi...I can even do WiFi tether wit app I found on marketplace. I had marketplace wrkn but I messed around and now its saying serve error but my gsm and data wrk fine...marketplace acts funny at times..lol ill get it wrkn again soon, already deleted data img. I get tired of reading all my settings and apn and downloads..I hve alot..there's some good tool apps on mrktplce
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eghoti1 said:
demandarin- would you say the new build is stable for the majority of Android features? What's your opinion on using it as your default OS system for the Tilt 2?
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I personally think its SO annoyingly slow. I'm constantly waiting for screens and lists to populate, and it makes me feel like I am using WinMo again. Contacts take forever to load, and the sms app, takes FOREVER to populate. Then when you're trying to do something sense will force close itself, and then you find yourself staring at a black screen with "htc" on it, and you have to wait for it to completely start Sense again. Personally if I want sense UI, ill use WinMo ROM with it, at least everything works that way.
The AOSP 2.1 is WAY smooth, and SO fast, and a more "official" release. 110Mb free ram vs 45Mb sounds WAY better to me.

demandarin- would you say the new build is stable for the majority of Android features? What's your opinion on using it as your default OS system for the Tilt 2?
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I personally think its SO annoyingly slow. I'm constantly waiting for screens and lists to populate, and it makes me feel like I am using WinMo again. Contacts take forever to load, and the sms app, takes FOREVER to populate. Then when you're trying to do something sense will force close itself, and then you find yourself staring at a black screen with "htc" on it, and you have to wait for it to completely start Sense again. Personally if I want sense UI, ill use WinMo ROM with it, at least everything works that way.
The AOSP 2.1 is WAY smooth, and SO fast, and a more "official" release. 110Mb free ram vs 45Mb sounds WAY better to me.
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I tried to get that version but the link was messed up or actn up...ill tke your advice and try it out..
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Reefermattness said:
I personally think its SO annoyingly slow. I'm constantly waiting for screens and lists to populate, and it makes me feel like I am using WinMo again. Contacts take forever to load, and the sms app, takes FOREVER to populate. Then when you're trying to do something sense will force close itself, and then you find yourself staring at a black screen with "htc" on it, and you have to wait for it to completely start Sense again. Personally if I want sense UI, ill use WinMo ROM with it, at least everything works that way.
The AOSP 2.1 is WAY smooth, and SO fast, and a more "official" release. 110Mb free ram vs 45Mb sounds WAY better to me.
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ok well that is a damning summary coming straight from the horses mouth! Thanks for all the advice everyone, sounds like AOSP 2.1 is the way to go for stability. Can't wait to try this out. I won't have to switch between my G1 and Avantage for much longer.

i downloaded that 2.1 no sense last night after i posted. I installed it juss like any other build but couldnt get it to finish the haret loading. 3/31 2.01and the 4/23 2.1 w/Sense builds i had no problem installing and running. I even checked the folders and it was all correct, in the andboot folder with all the necessary files in it. Even updated the 2.1 AOSP b4 running it the first time. the first time right after haret started up, it got hung up in the beginning..so i rebooted to try again. this time the haret ran the loader all the way till the end and got hung up right b4 the startup screen. said something about trying to init. pid or something. it kept on searching and repeating the command but no luck. i shut it down after i seen it aint gonna load up..lol i really do wanna try this build also but get tired of uninstalling and installing and setting up all my settings again. i have a ton of downloaded apps for the android already. after no success, i just installed the sense one again. Wrks wit no problems..lol
Theres ways to make it run faster within the os itself. I found alot of good memory manager apps and startup auditors. The reason i believe it runs laggy at times is because of all the programs always starting up without u even doing anything. U gotta kill apps all the time. I cant remember the name, but i have this memory app tool that lets u set a minimum and maximum MB for ur programs. For example i set it to 50mb, the program starts killing off apps in order of priority in order to maintain at least 50mb threshhold. works pretty well to me. i might try that 2.1 no sense build again another day but im stickin with the Sense build for now. It has potential..lol

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ok well that is a damning summary coming straight from the horses mouth! Thanks for all the advice everyone, sounds like AOSP 2.1 is the way to go for stability. Can't wait to try this out. I won't have to switch between my G1 and Avantage for much longer.
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Don't get me wrong, Im not saying you shouldn't try it. Different people have different tastes, you might LOVE it!

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i downloaded that 2.1 no sense last night after i posted. I installed it juss like any other build but couldnt get it to finish the haret loading.
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Ill build a new cab within the next day or 2. You're not the only one that had problems with the AOSP .cab.

thanks,..im sure we all will be Patiently waiting..lol

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They work on this daily. It could be tomorrow, it could be never. There is no time line, or guarantee.
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yeah im glad theyre working on it either way, but ill only start using it as my full time OS when they get that feature in at least. but it sure is fun to mess around with in the meantime

yeah, i believe its gonna come soon. I be away from my phone alot and need to hear it when a call comes in or i get txts, or "BACKGROUND Notifications"..lol that made me laugh...thinkin of somethin someone else told me in another thread.. I believe Reefer posted up the new cab for the 2.1 non-sense version. I havent gottn to try it out yet. Im still havin fun with the Sense version. Plus finding out how to cut the Sense UI off is a big plus for me. Now everytime my device boots into Android, It asks me what UI i want to use. Either Home, Sense, or Launcher. if i use home or launcher , it loads right up. Not like when using Sense and its loading forever. I like it cuz i have the option to choose.

Kitchen

Is there an online version of the kitchen? I ask because it is the last resort to get a fully functional Rom on my evo before I allow my daughter to have it other than using my nandroid of my original and unrooting.
I use a 64-bit system Windows 7. Done research and it says a 32-bit Java will work but that is false. I have spent from 9am until an hour ago (3:30pm here now) formating my hard-drive and reinstalled my OS because it didn't work. Still the kitchen doesn't find Java although I tried to instal a 32-bit version. Online is the only way I can do anything or I need a step-by-step on what I need to do to an apk where I can do it on my phone or I am in need of someone building a Rom. So.....is there one online?

What are you doing? Making a fully functional ROM? Why not take a stock rooted or a working GB ROM like reloaded?

Yea just get a stock 5.07 rooted rom. Not really sure what you're trying to do
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I am letting my daughter have my Evo. She has been hardcore blackBerry but given their status she is wanting to try Android. I have flashed every Rom on the first 10 pages of Development and what she has settled on as far as wanting most is Energy Rom. There are 3 problems stopping her from being totally happy with it. First is the 9016. After a lot of searching all I can find is it is tied to the Phone.apk. I have been unsuccessful at changing it out. The carousel shows only a grey screen when looking in Personalize but have been unsuccessful at getting the one from Mik3D installed and working since I know the one from that Rom works. The browser not going to mobile view and being to wide unless in landscape has been the only thing I have fixed. i used Root Explorer and deleted it and moved a basic stock in. Somehow it worked although the other things haven't. I had decided to try my hand at the kitchen to see if I could make the changes that way but it doesn't work on my PC regardless of what i try and believe me when I say I have taken extreme measures to make it work. So my hopes are that either someone can point me in the right direction on how to exchange an apk using only what tools I can find for my phone or in the direction of a kitchen online. For my phone I have installed: Root Explorer,File Manager and ZipSign2.

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I am letting my daughter have my Evo. She has been hardcore blackBerry but given their status she is wanting to try Android. I have flashed every Rom on the first 10 pages of Development and what she has settled on as far as wanting most is Energy Rom. There are 3 problems stopping her from being totally happy with it. First is the 9016. After a lot of searching all I can find is it is tied to the Phone.apk. I have been unsuccessful at changing it out. The carousel shows only a grey screen when looking in Personalize but have been unsuccessful at getting the one from Mik3D installed and working since I know the one from that Rom works. The browser not going to mobile view and being to wide unless in landscape has been the only thing I have fixed. i used Root Explorer and deleted it and moved a basic stock in. Somehow it worked although the other things haven't. I had decided to try my hand at the kitchen to see if I could make the changes that way but it doesn't work on my PC regardless of what i try and believe me when I say I have taken extreme measures to make it work. So my hopes are that either someone can point me in the right direction on how to exchange an apk using only what tools I can find for my phone or in the direction of a kitchen online. For my phone I have installed: Root Explorer,File Manager and ZipSign2.
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She's that picky? Tell her to get an iPhone. LOL

Even she is smart enough to know the first flip phone I ever purchased from Sprint way back when they finally got small enough to fit in your pocket is still better than the best Apple ever released.
However,with a little help I think I can make my life easier. I flashed Derp3D again and only 2 small things needed. First is the keyboard. How do I get the HTC back on and with dictionary? Last is how do I get the weather widget with sound? Those are the only things needed. Themes will be easy enough to handle.

Have you tried MikG v3.11 ? Uber Stable. Has a lot of Themes, and Mods available.

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Have you tried MikG v3.11 ? Uber Stable. Has a lot of Themes, and Mods available.
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The newest Jellybread has the 9016 number blocked, or you can use Go SMS and blacklist it, plus everything else you mentioned works

HipKat said:
The newest Jellybread has the 9016 number blocked, or you can use Go SMS and blacklist it, plus everything else you mentioned works
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+1 on jellybread..its worth a flash..

Fangstien said:
I am letting my daughter have my Evo. She has been hardcore blackBerry but given their status she is wanting to try Android. I have flashed every Rom on the first 10 pages of Development and what she has settled on as far as wanting most is Energy Rom. There are 3 problems stopping her from being totally happy with it. First is the 9016. After a lot of searching all I can find is it is tied to the Phone.apk. I have been unsuccessful at changing it out. The carousel shows only a grey screen when looking in Personalize but have been unsuccessful at getting the one from Mik3D installed and working since I know the one from that Rom works. The browser not going to mobile view and being to wide unless in landscape has been the only thing I have fixed. i used Root Explorer and deleted it and moved a basic stock in. Somehow it worked although the other things haven't. I had decided to try my hand at the kitchen to see if I could make the changes that way but it doesn't work on my PC regardless of what i try and believe me when I say I have taken extreme measures to make it work. So my hopes are that either someone can point me in the right direction on how to exchange an apk using only what tools I can find for my phone or in the direction of a kitchen online. For my phone I have installed: Root Explorer,File Manager and ZipSign2.
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The kitchen won't help you for fixing the things you want to fix )besides the fact that there isn't an online version). The kitchen just essentially makes it easier to do the things you're already doing. But EnergyROm is a Sense 3.5 ROM, which is not what the EVO natively comes with. So, there will ALWAYS be issues with it, like the VVM 9016 texts, no 4G, etc. And trying to swap things in from a Sense 3.0 ROM (Mik3D) will only cause more issues. I think you're going to have to "put your foot down" and let your daughter know she can either have a fully functional ROM that doesn't look exactly as she wants, or she can have the eye candy she wants without full functionality.
There are plenty of fully functional ROMs out there with a Sprint base that don't have the 9016 issue. Honestly, those all seem to be extremely minor issues to me. Sounds like you should just bite the bullet and get her an EVO LTE, lol.
I have seen a lot of good reviews of Kendall's ROM, though. But I'm going to assume that's not what your daughter is looking for. Sounds like she likes the look/widgets of Sense.

I remember back in the day I tried a sense 3.0 rom that didn't do the 9016 or whatever, but I don't see how that bugs her. Its just a text message that would only take 2 seconds to delete. When I ran those roms, it wasn't a big deal to me.
With the sense weather part, still didn't have a problem with that either. Just had to turn sound up.
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