Ok, as it so happens, I have both a T*Mobile Touch Pro 2 and an AT&T Tilt 2 sitting here in my hands and I'm trying to decide with him I'm going to keep. In doing so I thought I would write a little review of both phones side by side.
I'll call the T*Mobile Touch Pro 2 the TP2 and the Tilt 2 the Tilt 2
1. Cost
I paid $50 for the TP2 + $11 next day shipping. My plan is about $70 a month and that's with the insurance. Now I'm going to be hit with a $175 ETF so the final cost for the TP2 is $225.00 without any rebates or hassles.
I paid $300 for the Tilt 2 + $15 for next day shipping. My plan is about $70 a month without insurance. I had to pay a $18 upgrade fee + $100 for the Microcell to have any chance of using the phone in the house.
Winner: TP2, especially if you are free and clear of your current contract
2. What's in the box
The TP2 came with the battery, wall charger, Multifunction audio adapter, stereo headphones (wired), screen protector and a really nice case. Overall it felt like it's a well put together package with everything you would need. The screen protector was decent (though I'll order a real one from Boxwave).
The Tilt 2 came with the battery, wall charger, Multifunction audio adapter, and a screen protector. Compared to the TP2, this seems cheap. I mean come on, No head phones? Lame! I will say I had less problems installing the Tilt 2 screen protector though due to the the bottom buttons being flush against the bottom of the phone.
Winner: TP2
3. Build Quality
The TP2 has a standard keyboard but slightly smaller hardware buttons. It also has an external MicroSD slot and reset button. Over the back, it has a larger mute button and larger grill area over the speakers. However it's case is harder to remove than the Tilt and it lacks the PTT button.
The Tilt 2 has a very flimsy feelign back cover and just feels cheap. While it's buttons on the front are larger and has a PTT button, it lacks just about everything else. Like ruining the keyboard, having to open the case to insert the SD card let alone reset the device is criminal.
Winner: TP2
4. Memory
I'll be honest here, this isn't a fair comparison. 6.1 vs 6.5 but anyhow..
TP2:
Storage - Total: 285.57MB, In Use: 55.46MB, Free: 230.11MB
Program - Total: 181.21MB, In Use: 78.21MB, Free: 110.00MB
Tilt 2:
Storage - Total: 226.30MB, In Use: 89.12MB, Free: 137.18MB
Program - Total: 187.08MB, In Use: 101.36MB, Free: 85.71MB
Winner - Draw!
5. OS
TP2: Windows Mobile 6.1 with TF3D 2.1.38165.1
Tilt2: Windows Mobile 6.5 with TF3D 2.1.19183217.0
Winner: Tilt2
6. Installed Apps
TP2 is fairly light on the bloat. It does come with TeleNav and Handango InHand, Presenter 5 and Google maps. It also has a nice application for checking your account status, etc which I found to be pretty neat. The down side is Opera isn't the default browser. I didn't try TeleNav so I can't comment on it.
Tilt2 is pretty bloated. There's Mobile Web, AT&T Music, Navigator, AppCenter, Mobi4Biz, WorldCard Mboile, WikiMobile, MSN Weahter, Facebook, My-Cast Weather, Online Locker and more and more. Now I'm going to guess some of this is useful, but man that's a lot of bloat.
Winner: for me the TP2 but you might find some of the apps useful.
7. Signal
I live in Cary NC which is just outside of Raleigh. Today I traveled all around the triangle to see how the phones would do.
TP2 - Had good signal strength pretty much whereever I went for voice, but I almost never saw 3G. I did get a lot of Edge, but according to T*Mobile's map I should be square in the 3G area. I have to call tomorrow. Inside my Office I had 4 bars for voice and Edge while at home I had 2 bars for voice.
Tilt 2 - I had a number of cases where I had 3G but # of bars was slightly below the TP2. At the office, I had 4 Bars and 3G but at home at I 0-1 bars and 3G.
Winner - Draw (TP2 for voice, Tilt 2 for Data).
8. GPS
Both suck and are as laggy as my Fuze. Come on HTC! Now both are untweaked and I'll be trying out their included GPS apps tomorrow on the way to work but I expected more.
9. Customer Service
TP2 - Getting this phone was easy. It's available in my local store but I choose the $50 offer. Simple to order and express to get here.
Tilt 2 - My god AT&T sucks and it's because that are so bad I started the switch to T*Mobile. They lied to me, never contacted me when they said they would, and shipped me the phone even though I canceled it.
Winner - TP2
Final Thoughts
Sorry AT&T but I'm still switching. I am a little worried about the lack of 3G signal but I'll call T*Mobile tomorrow and find out what the deal is. But their phone is cheaper, made better and in my case gets a better signal.
But the real winner here is the solid design. AT&T I can't believe you made the choices you did. Even if I ignore the keyboard, having the SD slot and the reset button under the case is just stupid.
Winner: TP2!
When I played with a T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 for a while I thought it was ugly compared to my unlocked Touch Pro 2. Even the rep in the T-Mobile store was in awe of my unlocked version.
The T-Mobile version is all square and boxy. It doesn't have that "classy" look that the rounded chrome dezel gives the unlocked and AT&T versions.
AT&T screwed up when they changed the keyboard layout, and a reset hole would have been nice. But I'm fine with the Micro SD slot being under the battery cover. I never change mine, and it's not like you have the shut the device down to access it anyway.
T-Mobile probably wins on the cost though.
I have been thinkiing of switching to t-moble as wel.l There 3g coverage is the only thing that has been keeping me staying put. There is limit 3g/ evo coverage on post for all networks. There are times were i would have one bar and other would have none with their services. The only advantages that att give in there training flyer are thier 3g network, optimized keyboard, ptt, and all the special att apps.
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I have been thinkiing of switching to t-moble as wel.l There 3g coverage is the only thing that has been keeping me staying put. There is limit 3g/ evo coverage on post for all networks. There are times were i would have one bar and other would have none with their services. The only advantages that att give in there training flyer are thier 3g network, optimized keyboard, ptt, and all the special att apps.
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Where can I read that training flyer?
I've had the Tmo TP2 since it launched & at first i thought it was ugly, but it grew on me & i like it now more that the original version & i love the smaller buttons. my only gripe is the color. i wish it were all black
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I've had the Tmo TP2 since it launched & at first i thought it was ugly, but it grew on me & i like it now more that the original version & i love the smaller buttons. my only gripe is the color. i wish it were all black
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Well, paint it, lol. jk jk
JoeWilcox said:
Ok, as it so happens, I have both a T*Mobile Touch Pro 2 and an AT&T Tilt 2 sitting here in my hands and I'm trying to decide with him I'm going to keep. In doing so I thought I would write a little review of both phones side by side.
I'll call the T*Mobile Touch Pro 2 the TP2 and the Tilt 2 the Tilt 2
1. Cost
I paid $50 for the TP2 + $11 next day shipping. My plan is about $70 a month and that's with the insurance. Now I'm going to be hit with a $175 ETF so the final cost for the TP2 is $225.00 without any rebates or hassles.
I paid $300 for the Tilt 2 + $15 for next day shipping. My plan is about $70 a month without insurance. I had to pay a $18 upgrade fee + $100 for the Microcell to have any chance of using the phone in the house.
Winner: TP2, especially if you are free and clear of your current contract
2. What's in the box
The TP2 came with the battery, wall charger, Multifunction audio adapter, stereo headphones (wired), screen protector and a really nice case. Overall it felt like it's a well put together package with everything you would need. The screen protector was decent (though I'll order a real one from Boxwave).
The Tilt 2 came with the battery, wall charger, Multifunction audio adapter, and a screen protector. Compared to the TP2, this seems cheap. I mean come on, No head phones? Lame! I will say I had less problems installing the Tilt 2 screen protector though due to the the bottom buttons being flush against the bottom of the phone.
Winner: TP2
3. Build Quality
The TP2 has a standard keyboard but slightly smaller hardware buttons. It also has an external MicroSD slot and reset button. Over the back, it has a larger mute button and larger grill area over the speakers. However it's case is harder to remove than the Tilt and it lacks the PTT button.
The Tilt 2 has a very flimsy feelign back cover and just feels cheap. While it's buttons on the front are larger and has a PTT button, it lacks just about everything else. Like ruining the keyboard, having to open the case to insert the SD card let alone reset the device is criminal.
Winner: TP2
4. Memory
I'll be honest here, this isn't a fair comparison. 6.1 vs 6.5 but anyhow..
TP2:
Storage - Total: 285.57MB, In Use: 55.46MB, Free: 230.11MB
Program - Total: 181.21MB, In Use: 78.21MB, Free: 110.00MB
Tilt 2:
Storage - Total: 226.30MB, In Use: 89.12MB, Free: 137.18MB
Program - Total: 187.08MB, In Use: 101.36MB, Free: 85.71MB
Winner - Draw!
5. OS
TP2: Windows Mobile 6.1 with TF3D 2.1.38165.1
Tilt2: Windows Mobile 6.5 with TF3D 2.1.19183217.0
Winner: Tilt2
6. Installed Apps
TP2 is fairly light on the bloat. It does come with TeleNav and Handango InHand, Presenter 5 and Google maps. It also has a nice application for checking your account status, etc which I found to be pretty neat. The down side is Opera isn't the default browser. I didn't try TeleNav so I can't comment on it.
Tilt2 is pretty bloated. There's Mobile Web, AT&T Music, Navigator, AppCenter, Mobi4Biz, WorldCard Mboile, WikiMobile, MSN Weahter, Facebook, My-Cast Weather, Online Locker and more and more. Now I'm going to guess some of this is useful, but man that's a lot of bloat.
Winner: for me the TP2 but you might find some of the apps useful.
7. Signal
I live in Cary NC which is just outside of Raleigh. Today I traveled all around the triangle to see how the phones would do.
TP2 - Had good signal strength pretty much whereever I went for voice, but I almost never saw 3G. I did get a lot of Edge, but according to T*Mobile's map I should be square in the 3G area. I have to call tomorrow. Inside my Office I had 4 bars for voice and Edge while at home I had 2 bars for voice.
Tilt 2 - I had a number of cases where I had 3G but # of bars was slightly below the TP2. At the office, I had 4 Bars and 3G but at home at I 0-1 bars and 3G.
Winner - Draw (TP2 for voice, Tilt 2 for Data).
8. GPS
Both suck and are as laggy as my Fuze. Come on HTC! Now both are untweaked and I'll be trying out their included GPS apps tomorrow on the way to work but I expected more.
9. Customer Service
TP2 - Getting this phone was easy. It's available in my local store but I choose the $50 offer. Simple to order and express to get here.
Tilt 2 - My god AT&T sucks and it's because that are so bad I started the switch to T*Mobile. They lied to me, never contacted me when they said they would, and shipped me the phone even though I canceled it.
Winner - TP2
Final Thoughts
Sorry AT&T but I'm still switching. I am a little worried about the lack of 3G signal but I'll call T*Mobile tomorrow and find out what the deal is. But their phone is cheaper, made better and in my case gets a better signal.
But the real winner here is the solid design. AT&T I can't believe you made the choices you did. Even if I ignore the keyboard, having the SD slot and the reset button under the case is just stupid.
Winner: TP2!
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Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431
A very deep comparative is shown
I have both AT&T & TMO services and for the PPC handsets, I have gone to AT&T, at least since the Fuze. The AT&T 3G is just that much better for me in comparison to TMO's, and I am in So Cal (if I didn't need GSM, I would have grabbed VZW instead, that's what I use on my laptop).
I compared TMO's 3G and it doesn't seem it is matured enough judging by how my daughter's G1 almost not getting 3G half the time. I looked at the TMO's TP2 and even with the killer price of $150 (before the $50 promote), I simply didn't like how it felt & looked, seriously, who at TMO decided on these colors? And the squared-off edges made an already large device seem even larger.
OP,
I'm interested in knowing if you would be able to find out if the Radio Hardware is physically the same in both versions of the T-Mo Branded Touch Pro 2 and the Tilt 2 (I know the specs say they aren't but...).
I'm curious to see if there's a way to use my Unlocked T-Mo Branded Touch Pro 2 (or even the Unbranded Touch Pro 2 for that matter) on AT&T's 3G Network through a simple ROM Flash (and/or vice versa).
I'm sure you'd be helping plenty of others by looking into this.
Thanks!
Edit:
Who knows, maybe the physical chip supports more frequencies and are locked only through firmware... A similar theory once existed with the i900 Omnia... I guess it's worth a look.
3GPocketPC4Me said:
OP,
I'm interested in knowing if you would be able to find out if the Radio Hardware is physically the same in both versions of the T-Mo Branded Touch Pro 2 and the Tilt 2 (I know the specs say they aren't but...).
I'm curious to see if there's a way to use my Unlocked T-Mo Branded Touch Pro 2 (or even the Unbranded Touch Pro 2 for that matter) on AT&T's 3G Network through a simple ROM Flash (and/or vice versa).
I'm sure you'd be helping plenty of others by looking into this.
Thanks!
Edit:
Who knows, maybe the physical chip supports more frequencies and are locked only through firmware... A similar theory once existed with the i900 Omnia... I guess it's worth a look.
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this has been asked 100020101092938 times.
The answer is NO.
Buy a Tilt2 if you want ATT 3G service.
Buy a Tmo TP2 if you want Tmobile 3G.
Unless you can live with EDGE speed, then you can use ANY GSM TP2.
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I have an unhealthy habit (well, according to my wife anyway ) of replacing my phones every 3-4 months. So far this year I had 8525 (excellent phone but a bit too bulky for my liking) and Nokia N75 which is my current phone. However, I am sorely missing a real keyboard and would like something a tad smaller/slimmer then 8525. So far my choices have been narrowed down to Dash and Blackjack. I was able to briefly fondle both phones and am now at the crossroads, which one to choose?
Both phones share many similarities but there are also major differences. Being a 3G user on at&t network I have been spoiled by both 8525 and N75, so as far as data is concerned Blackjack is a clear winner. However, BJ has some major annoyances that I am not sure I will be able to tolerate. First, whoever designed the keyboard on the BJ should be slapped with a live wet trout. To make d-pad flush with soft keys was a major oversight IMO. Second, I do not care for a proprietary charge/sync/audio port. I like Dash's keyboard much better and the curved shape feels really good in hand. Wi-fi is a bonus but is something I can definitely live without. Otherwise, both phones appear to be fairly similar.
I am leaning towards purchasing Dash, but am afraid that lack of 3g will frustrate me. Can anyone who's using or used both phones share their thoughts as to which one I should choose? Is at&t EDGE fast enough to handle streaming audio like Shoutcast? Money is not an object, both phones are about the same price.
Sounds like to me that you'll like the HTC Cavalier more. With twice the speed of the Dash at 400mhz, it also carries 3G capability. The only downside is that it's about $500+ in most sites. I use the Dash and I love it but don't count on EDGE streaming anything with decent quality. Depending where you are at, EDGE vary in speed. I get about 120kbps on average which is slow for me. It does the job and I won't complain since I'm only paying $5.99 for the internet access. As for Wi-Fi, it's a BIG PLUS. I know you mention that you don't care much for it but trust me, you'll want it if you purchase the Dash. Wi-Fi is a luxury feature at the moment since not many phones actually have it especially in such a slim factor like the Dash. Whenever I'm home, I turn on my Wi-Fi and hope one day when T-Mobile has officially set up their 3G network, I'll be browsing and zooming through my webpages without the Wi-Fi.
unknown123456 said:
Sounds like to me that you'll like the HTC Cavalier more. With twice the speed of the Dash at 400mhz, it also carries 3G capability. The only downside is that it's about $500+ in most sites. I use the Dash and I love it but don't count on EDGE streaming anything with decent quality. Depending where you are at, EDGE vary in speed. I get about 120kbps on average which is slow for me. It does the job and I won't complain since I'm only paying $5.99 for the internet access. As for Wi-Fi, it's a BIG PLUS. I know you mention that you don't care much for it but trust me, you'll want it if you purchase the Dash. Wi-Fi is a luxury feature at the moment since not many phones actually have it especially in such a slim factor like the Dash. Whenever I'm home, I turn on my Wi-Fi and hope one day when T-Mobile has officially set up their 3G network, I'll be browsing and zooming through my webpages without the Wi-Fi.
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Hmm, who is your carrier, and how is it you are only paying 5.99 for internet?
Do tell!
Thanks,
J
jta said:
Hmm, who is your carrier, and how is it you are only paying 5.99 for internet?
Do tell!
Thanks,
J
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He's talking about T-Mobile T-zones Internet which is $5.99 a month
The T-Zone internet access is sort of hit or miss. Everyone used to be able 'utilize' The TZones $5.99 plan for full internet access. Originally designed for limited web service on a vanilla cell-phone -- we all used to be able to use it's proxy settings on our WM devices and cheat our way into full Edge internet access. Over the past year T-Mobile has been working on ways to enforce this basic TZone access on WM devices. Seems these changes are being implemented by region, as it still works for many, but not all, T-Mobile WM device using subscribers. It stopped working for me about 6 months ago, with WM5. There's a bunch more about this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306361
WM6 includes a T-Zones update, which enhances with a separate WAP browser that gives you TZones limited access to the web (movie times, weather, news, etc) For a couple bucks more a month, you can sync your corporate or personal email accounts to TZones, and to your device. Messenger, IE, and anything else that connects to the Internet won't work with TZones.
If you're unable to jury-rig your Dash for unlimited access at the TZones rate, they want you to purchase the $30 per month 'Total Internet' plan that includes unlimited EDGE and HotSpot WiFi access. You can opt for the Blackberry plan, no WiFi -- unlimited EDGE for $20 -- comparatively pretty reasonable.
You asked about Shoutcast with EDGE. Don't know about AT&T, but with T-Mobile, not so great. Fine for lower bitrate voice audio like newscasts. Music skips >a lot< and video can be downright frustrating. What I find better is packing 20 hours or so of recorded Shoutcast streams from my laptop to the 2-gig MicroSD card in my Dash. Using ULEAD video products, I've converted about 10 hours of video into high quality files that all fit on my 2-gig card with a lot of room to spare. I'd say microSD card useage is a better consideration than streaming (with the Dash). There's a learning curve, but it pays off
As to which is better -- I'd say a overall a Dash is better, mainly as a hold-over device until all the new gadgetry that'll be out in 6 months, or better yet, a year. I helped someone set up their BlackJack. It's nice too. What I didn't like about the BJ: battery life. Without changing something in the registry, the broadband-service radio stays on, even if you aren't currently using, or just don't use, broadband. Prior to the registry change, the device barely made it through a day -- low battery alerts after 7-8 hours. After the change, it's on par with the Dash, however, will only use AT&T's EDGE service. The average user isn't going to think to Google this, or find the software that lets them make the change.
With a 2-year commitment, you can get a Dash for free via Amazon.com or LetsTalk.com. There are probably offers for the BJ, but I'm not familiar with AT&T.
As you have an interest in audio -- the 2.0 Bluetooth on the Dash produces amazing sound on a set of Motorola S9 headsets (also Bluetooth 2.0). I believe the BJ is Bluetooth 1.2 even after a WM6 upgrade.
jta said:
Hmm, who is your carrier, and how is it you are only paying 5.99 for internet?
Do tell!
Thanks,
J
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Hi, some more thoughts about both phones... I own a Blackjack, my girlfriend a Dash, so I know them quite well.
Well, if you really are a 3G user... this is a big plus for the blackjack. I am from Germany, so I am not sure if it makes sense the German/American EDGE/3G networks, but here in Germany the blackjack is definitely much quicker with HSDPA (up to 1,8 Mbps) compared to EDGE.
But this is the only "objective" factor that I can mention. Oh, maybe one more: I like the Wi-Fi support omy Blackjack very very much. But here in Germany the Dash is also offered by O2 (called XDA Cosmo), and this version offers Wi-Fi as well. If you have the opportunity to get the Dash including Wi-Fi support (I think the original HTC devices support Wi-Fi as well) I would go for it...
Just a few more points that I noticed:
- the standard battery of the Blackjack is really weak, the dash will work longer. But I got a 2nd, extended battery with my blackjack, and I am quite happy with it. Disadvantage: it is thicker than the standard battery, so the device is not so slim/elegant anymore. Anyway, I think it still looks great.
- in my opinion, the blackjack "feels" better - I think the keyboard is a little more solid (?), and - sounds stupid - I really like to touch the blackjack, don't know how Samsung did it.
- On the other hand, I prefer the display of the Dash/Cosmo (I think it is a little brighter/clearer)
I emailed HTC Support two days ago and told them how disappointed I am with the company for delaying the WM6 packages.
This is the response I got:
Hello Sir,
The Rom update for the Windows mobile 6 for the S620 has not been released yet. Please be a bit more patient. As soon as the update will be released (hopefully end of September) It should be available for download from the E- Club section of the HTC website.
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I'm seriously considering selling my S620 and buying a Blackjack because they HAVE actually made the s/w available already.
HTC's support has been very poor - I know this from earlier experience.
Hang in there ... I'm told by my contact at Microsoft the WM6 for S620 will be released by HTC on 17-Aug. Which means sometime within 2 weeks of that ;-)
i just got off the fone with one of the reps and she said it is coming out THURSDAY!!!!!FINALLY!
I'm going to be at the store when they open on Thursday
I wonder if this is only being launched in some areas because I called a few stores today and they had no idea when it was going to be released. Or maybe the reps at AT&T stores around here just haven't got the word yet.
yoo mee too im takin this pure back tomorrow! and ordering my td2(HTC IMAGIO) from verizon tomorrow!
You guys seen the keyboard on the Tilt 2? Ewwww!!!!
The number keys should be on the top row like on the rest of the Rhodiums
Good thing there is a program to remap them...
http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/10/06/att-tilt2-coming-to-play-october-8/
headshok said:
You guys seen the keyboard on the Tilt 2? Ewwww!!!!
The number keys should be on the top row like on the rest of the Rhodiums
Good thing there is a program to remap them...
http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/10/06/att-tilt2-coming-to-play-october-8/
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This has been known for a couple months now, and it is the same layout as the Tilt and Fuze essentially. Unfortunate, but those of us who want a Rhodium with 3G on AT&T don't have a choice.
I can't believe the Tilt 2 is finally almost here, I was totally expecting the 18th, and not such a stealthy launch like this.
headshok said:
You guys seen the keyboard on the Tilt 2? Ewwww!!!!
The number keys should be on the top row like on the rest of the Rhodiums
Good thing there is a program to remap them...
http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/10/06/att-tilt2-coming-to-play-october-8/
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I like the number keys the way they are, MUCH faster to type for me.
I posted in a few other threads that October 8th was the release day, where were you guys??
Here is what my business ATT rep sent me that came from ATT corporate:
"Hello Eric,
I figured that I would make your evening!! See below: I have put in Bold the information that will make you happy! Looks like we will be ordering in a couple of days.
Have a great evening!
Channels: Consumer Care, COR, Local Dealer, National Retail, DMDR, and Small Business
Roles: Representative and Above
Markets: All Markets
Contacts: Your Manager
AT&T will launch the HTC Tilt 2 to all channels of distribution on October 8, 2009.
The HTC Tilt 2 has a large, vivid, tilting touch screen that enables easy navigation via the Touch FLO™ 3D interface. The HTC Tilt 2 has an extra-large physical QWERTY keyboard, plus on-screen touch virtual keyboard that works in horizontal or vertical orientation. The HTC Tilt 2 provides a quality speakerphone experience with dual speakers, dual microphones and advanced noise cancellation with StraightTalk™ technology.
The HTC Tilt 2 from AT&T arranges conversations by people, not by the application that used. Users can now see a history of conversations, in whatever form it took place, directly from the contacts list. The HTC Tilt 2 comes loaded with AT&T applications, but users can also download more applications through AT&T’s Appcenter, or from the Windows MarketPlace Mobile store. The HTC Tilt 2 supports quad-band GSM, bi-band HSDPA/UMTS, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth."
I'm gonna go bug our business rep tomorrow for a new TP2 2 days early
Check this out
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/HTC-Tilt-2/index.jsp
nemets said:
Check this out
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/HTC-Tilt-2/index.jsp
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Still no price listed. Why is AT&T making it so hard to find a no commit price on this thing?
SaltyDawg said:
Still no price listed. Why is AT&T making it so hard to find a no commit price on this thing?
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i think i read somewhere that it'll be 299.00 after a $50 rebate with 2 year contract. not completely sure though.
imabored said:
i think i read somewhere that it'll be 299.00 after a $50 rebate with 2 year contract. not completely sure though.
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really hoping for this. I read somewhere (i think wmexperts) that it could go for $349.99 after $50 rebate. I hope ATT doesn't go the T-MO/sprint route, n leans more toward the verizon route. Either way, im gonna try to bargain with the workers to lower the price a little. Maybe 250? haha
poppinpengawen said:
really hoping for this. I read somewhere (i think wmexperts) that it could go for $349.99 after $50 rebate. I hope ATT doesn't go the T-MO/sprint route, n leans more toward the verizon route. Either way, im gonna try to bargain with the workers to lower the price a little. Maybe 250? haha
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yeah. im hoping that 49.99 deal that people have gotten the past couple weeks. haha i doubt it though.
yea i want to get this the first day but tmobile and sprint had their tp2 on sale a week or two after it release for a day or two...i dont want to buy it and see a deal like 200 or lower show up that would hurt...
I don't care about the discounts, rebates, etc. I am planning on paying full retail for mine. But I need to know the full retail price because I have to withdraw the money like a week in advance from my brokerage account...
SaltyDawg said:
I don't care about the discounts, rebates, etc. I am planning on paying full retail for mine. But I need to know the full retail price because I have to withdraw the money like a week in advance from my brokerage account...
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The subsidy price is usually $150 less than full retail before MIR. I suspect that the full retail price is $349.99 + $150.00 = $499.99
Keyboard is UGH
headshok said:
You guys seen the keyboard on the Tilt 2? Ewwww!!!!
The number keys should be on the top row like on the rest of the Rhodiums
Good thing there is a program to remap them...
http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/10/06/att-tilt2-coming-to-play-october-8/
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I can't agree more. If you want to dial it like a normal phone, use the touch screen. I don't want to have to hold Fn every time I want to TYPE a number. I wish I could swap the keyboard out somehow...
sleze said:
I can't agree more. If you want to dial it like a normal phone, use the touch screen. I don't want to have to hold Fn every time I want to TYPE a number. I wish I could swap the keyboard out somehow...
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Well I don't want to hold fn every time I use punctuation, which is far more often than numbers.
I've got the sprint TP2 which needs to go back because sprint coverage is horrible in my area.
Looking at the photos and the couple seconds in that video in the other thread I have to say the AT&T version looks really chincy compared to the sprint version. Is that what took so long for At&t to come out is excessive value engineering?
Either way I'm going with the cheap ugly at&t version because I don't have a choice.
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Looking at the photos and the couple seconds in that video in the other thread I have to say the AT&T version looks really chincy compared to the sprint version. Is that what took so long for At&t to come out is excessive value engineering?
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Really? It seems to me that among the US carriers, AT&T has the one that looks closest to the original HTC version, which I kinda get the idea that everyone likes best. AT&T messed with the keyboard but it looks like they had sense enough to leave the rest alone.
So I purchased a T7373 Touch Pro2 back in July 09. I was a big fan of the TyTN and figured this would be a great new phone.
I must say no disappointment here, even the stock roms were alright.
Alas, I live in Canada and knew my phone wouldn't be offered by my provider (Rogers) so I purchased it knowning that 3G would not be available.
What I didn't realize several new companies (google Bell/Telus HSPA) have put new networks that would use the same NAM 3G frequencies.
Long story short, I wanted to upgrade my phone to the 3G for the fact my phone could move networks and still work. I was told I could trade in at a cost of 200 US to change it to the Tilt2. (supports NAM 3G frequencies)
Other than the network independence, do you think its worth it?
It would be nice to stream audio, but $200 to stream audio seems kinda heavy. But my TyTN stayed with me for 3 years as it did its job and did it well thanks to the chefs.
What would you do?
that seems a bit steep as you can find lightly used devices on craigslist and ebay for that much.
Maybe buy a slightly used one and sell yours to make up the difference? also for some reason the european unlocked versions go for more than they should on eBay considering the lack of NAM 3G bands.
Stay with Rhodium and later you´ll have a chance to get the other device in a hot deal (check periodically marketplace)
The 3g can definitely make this deal for you if you are in a good coverage area. I would definately make the switch.
However, I wouldn't make the switch for $200 out the gate.
First I'd find out if they'd accept an older phone for trade-in instead, such as an older TyTyn or Wizard.
If not, I'd try a straight trade offer with anyone on these forums who'd like to make use of the secondary camera or prefer the original style. I don't know about Canada, but currently you can get a TouchPro2/Tilt2 with AT&T in the US for free with a new contract through amazon.com, so it's pretty likely to find someone who'd feel they were also getting an upgrade and a great deal.
If none of these pan out and I still craved 3g goodness, I'd have to think long and hard of selling the phone and buying a new rhodium or going through with the pricey upgrade.
3G was the primary factor in my recent upgrade from wizard to rhodium, more so than any other obvious upgrades
So I just got off the phone with ****-T&T a couple hours ago and I'm really pissed.
I called them to clarify their "grandfather clause" exceptions to the data requirements for smartphones because I have had a Tilt without data for over 2 years now. The Tilt is on life support now so I was looking into getting another phone outright without an upgrade so they don't force data on me. I have no need for data because I am in the wifi spots 24/7 and only need a smartphone for e-mail capabilities.
It turns out that despite being grandfathered, if I get a smartphone any other way other than insurance claim my ATT Tilt, then they will require that I add data. Even though I don't need data. ****ing bull****.
And it looks like they don't have any more Tilts so they are going to send me a Tilt2. I have heard mixed reviews about the Tilt2, so I decided to come and get some opinions for those who have had it and tested it for a while here.
Any input regarding the Tilt2 (good or bad) is welcomed before I decide my next step. I have been with this ****ty company since they were Cingular and I am getting fed up with their bull****!
First off, calm down. If you really love(d) your tilt, which I'm guessing you do looking at your username lol, then you would look around on ebay, craigslist, amazon, etc for some good deals. They're all reliable sources, minus craigs, so you definitely have one option there.
But if you insisted on getting a tilt 2, I would have to say no. I fell in love with it for the first 2 months I bought it but the love slowly faded away. WM 6.5 is truly remarkable in all that it can do but over time the small laggy/choppy responses gets to you...it did for me. But another cool thing you can do, if you hadn't known, is dualboot android.
Honestly, go get yourself a nice android phone. Android is the next leading OS next to Apple. And until WM 7 comes out (which is Winter 2010/Spring 2011), WM will be far behind.
Good luck.
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First off, calm down. If you really love(d) your tilt, which I'm guessing you do looking at your username lol, then you would look around on ebay, craigslist, amazon, etc for some good deals. They're all reliable sources, minus craigs, so you definitely have one option there.
But if you insisted on getting a tilt 2, I would have to say no. I fell in love with it for the first 2 months I bought it but the love slowly faded away. WM 6.5 is truly remarkable in all that it can do but over time the small laggy/choppy responses gets to you...it did for me. But another cool thing you can do, if you hadn't known, is dualboot android.
Honestly, go get yourself a nice android phone. Android is the next leading OS next to Apple. And until WM 7 comes out (which is Winter 2010/Spring 2011), WM will be far behind.
Good luck.
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Thanks so much for that honest response. I liked my Tilt since it was my first smartphone and over time, I got to flash roms so it was fun. But with WM sucking so much and all the issues with flashing Manila roms, when it started dying, I decided I would go for another phone.
I was looking into the Blackberry Bold 9700 because of the remarkable e-mail client, but ATT shot down those dreams rather quickly. I just don't get it. Why does it matter what phone I am using if I don't need a data plan. It's just frustrating because they are feeding into the persona of that big greedy corporation that doesn't give a crap about customers.
And you just reiterated all of my concerns about the Tilt2. Although it has gotten some solid (4/5) reviews on some tech sites, customer reviews are 2.5 or 3/5 because of lagging, bloatware, etc issues.
Well alot of the customers bad reviews are from using the stock ATT Rom included with the Tilt 2. If you flash a new ROM almost all of the lagging, choppiness and bloatware is completely gone. I was afraid when I first got my tilt 2 as well because of all the negative reviews from people, but after flashing a new ROM I instantly fell in love with it. Almost everyone whos seen my phone is extremely jealous of it because of the nice screen, full keyboard, and the beautiful User Interface, and most of those people have owned iPhones. You'll have to experiment which ROM is the best for you, but I have no doubt with all the wonderful chefs here on XDA you'll find one that you love. Also If you buy an unlocked phone, not from AT&T you wouldn't have to buy a data plan, I got mine of eBay, and didn't have data on it for about a month. Plus with the Android development coming along smoothly for the Tilt 2, my guess is a very amazing full port will be available within this year. But I would have to agree with urkrnboy90 and say that WM 6.5 is far behind Android, and Android is an amazing OS.
I ran into the same issue about having to upgrade my plan. I told them I would be looking for another providers and they changes their tune real quick and let me add 2 smart phones without having to add the 30.00 a month data plan per line. They need to have a reasonably priced family data plan for smart phones. Sorry but i'm not gonna pay more for my cell phone internet than my home internet. Considering I have a 12mb cabe internet for 50.00 a month. If they can get me that kind of speed or faster for 60.00 a month we can talk then. I love my cell rom v10.1 only fix i needed was the keyboard fix and it runs much better than the stock rom.
I like my tilt 2 but thinking of selling it and getting a HD2.
I started getting the unlimited data for $15 several years ago on my V3i Razr and upgraded to a Palm 750 and then went to a Q9h by then I was not under contract anymore, I then bought a Tilt (ebay) stuck my sim card in it and never looked back. I bought a Tilt2 about 2-3 months ago and so far I havent been charged the $30 "PDA" plan still on the $15 so If I were you I would buy another phone on ebay and stick your old sim card in it and see what happens. I have heard of people doing this and being ok UNTIL they updated another non-smart phone on their plan and it knocked them out from under the grandfather clause, good luck.
Assassin5150, XanderCorp and 03hdfatboy, thanks for the input. I went to the ATT store by my house to just give the Tilt 2 a test run, but unfortunately, they didn't have any on hand. I wanted to get a feel for the phone.
It's interesting because I was on the phone with a Rep and then the Floor Manager for about 30-45 minutes and they were just reading off the cue-cards. I have an old sim-card and even though they give me one of the newer ones, I never put it in my phone. So I am hoping that if put it in another phone, the old sim card won't work like the new ones where they will know which phone I have. Did either of you have the old sim-card?
I have a tilt2 and I am very satisfied with it. I had a touch pro first, and I will say that for some reason that the tiltt 2 is a lot better. and as far as the data plan, it would be easier to just buy the tilt 2 outright and not get a data plan. AT&T is getting ridiculous if I might say so my self
I went from Tilt to Tilt2 (Fuze was garbage) And I love It, but you do have to tweak it a little, remove bloatware, and store all availble on your SD Card, and the Speed is nice, and I'm running Stock Rom and I absolutely Love it, I don't care for the Sense/TouchFlo so I use Mobile Shell ! But overall I'm Satisfied with it, And Will keep it til a good Android is Availble, WM7 is not for me. Oh And Also most of all your TILT programs are compatible with your TILT2 , though I would look for the upgraded ones for a better screen image.
Another positive vote for the Tilt 2.
Stock it can get sluggish but I am using the Energy ROM and OMG this is a new phone all together.
The SPB Shell is also a nice option.
First off, the data plan requirement for smartphones is not exclusive to ATT. Most other carriers require this too. Sure, you don't have to like it. But it seems like the OP is implying that ATT is alone in this policy, when they are not.
Second, I moved from the Tilt to the Tilt2, and the old phone just doesn't compare. Sure, the stock Tilt2 ROM can be sluggish. But the stock ROM on the old Tilt was even more so. I was actually pretty happy with the responsiveness when I upgraded. Also, a lot of tweaking can be done to improve the stock speed. But I eventually went to an Energy ROM, and its just amazing how much faster, more functional, and stable it is now. Not completely mandatory to flash a new ROM, but its a nice option.
And in just about every other respect, the Tilt 2 is far superior. The screen is much larger, higher resolution which makes it just gorgeous. I quite like the form factor (though some complain about the size/weight). Its sleek, sexy, and has a nice feel. Its almost identical in footprint to the iPhone (and competitive smartphones), just thicker since it has a real keyboard (which is a very fair tradeoff). Speaking of which, the keyboard is wonderful. Since the phone is bigger, so is the keyboard, making it even better then the old Tilt. The camera is better than the old Tilt, and the speakerphone is excellent (just about the best on a cell phone).
Bottom line, the Tilt2/TP2/Rhodium is the best smartphone around right now with a hardware keyboard. Windows Mobile has its drawbacks, of course. Especially now that its the "lame duck" of phone OS's until Windows Phone 7 comes out. Plus, the Rhodium is really getting pretty far along in age at this point (I hate to say it). If I was looking for an upgrade right now, I'd be seriously considering an Android phone. That's assuming you can live without a real keyboard, seeing as waiting for new Androids does not seem like an option.
First off, please let me say I know I am NOT supposed to say much about the Tilt2 since I am on Tmo Pro2, but hey, they are pretty much the same thing and I was with AT&T ever since they were Pac Bell until I finally had enough of with their spotty service at my home...they even suggested me to move LMAO This is going to be a rather long post since I am going to try to put my two cents in for a few different replies I've seen...so please forgive me.
Anyway, I had, sorry, have, the Tilt, rock solid phone nonetheless. Much like my Treo 650, the Tilt is like a freaken rock. I remember I did update the ROM before and tried both with all the apps AT&T loaded into the phone and without, not much different between the two. I tweaked the phone with regedit and made it to the way I like it.
I bought my phone right out. Back then, the BS was a bit easier to deal with. Called the first store and they said they had it in-stock (within first week Tilt was out,) went to the store, asked for the phone, the girl asked "Are you going to re-new your contract?" Errr, nope, not planning to (nor did I tell her about the $15 internet plan.) "Oh, the phone was sold out this morning." What? I just called 15 mins ago. Anyway, same story went on for two more stores till I learned to say "yes, I am renewing my contract." My credit card was out almost the same time as they pulled the phone out from the back. Heehee.
At some point last year I finally had enough with their poor services around my house. Thru out a whole month, I was back and forth with their 611. One said it's because I live right next to a police station and their radios are robbing my signal...er...LOL...ok, I didn't know NexTel runs on GSM nor did anyone ever tell me police radio required SIM! One said it was because I wasn't on the $30 PDA plan and she wanted to changed it, which I told her no cause at the time I was on the phone with them I was on an unlocked Samsung candybar. One told me it was handset issue, which I told them nope, cause I have Tero 600, 650, Tilt, Blackjack, unlocked quad bands and non of them get any signal! One said it was because I never turn my phone off to allow the phone a chance to update itself...ha, you turn the phone off and expect it to update itself while it is off? GOOD ONE! One said it was because I had an old SIM and told to go to the store and get a new SIM at no cost to me. Ha, the sales tried to charged me for the SIM until he read whatever there were on his screen. Anyway, to proved them wrong, I called 611 and as we were talking about the signal, my call dropped just when I got near my house. The BS with AT&T, I got a lot horrible stories, still beats the crap out of me as to why I stuck with them for so long. Anyway, what I had learned was that whether old SIM or new, they know what phone you are using. I didn't ask the detail but I think the cell signal itself put out the IMEI number since they read that number back to me when I was using an unlocked quad bands. If you were to call them for any issue and you are paying for the $15 plan instead of the $30 one, try changing your SIM into an older or any candy bar phone a day or two before you actually call AT&T. Unless you darn sure it's "handset" issue, otherwise, there isn't much of a need for them to know which phone you are using. Anyway, I did it like that thru out my Tero, Blackjack, Tilt and all the way till I canceled my account with them. I don't even remember how long my contract had been gone.
Anyway, I waited too long for the them to push the Tilt2 to the market plus all the bad services I went thru with their 611, so I left.
Speaking from using Pro2, I don't have much complain. RegEdit pretty much made it work the way I want it to. Would I go back to my Tilt? Nah. Tilt is a really great phone, I love it so much to the phone I didn't even bother to look at any other phone as long as they can't tilt! Hey, the tilt part of the Tilt can get to ya! But as tech moving forward, the phone is stuck in the past. There are a lot Tilt2 or Pro2 can offer that Tilt can't really match up. Now, I know it's not the best compare you can do, but try stopping by Tmo store, most of them, even the some in the middle of the mall have the Pro2 sitting there with the battery and SIM in. Give it a try...I haven't get a change to play with Tilt2, so please, for all you Tilt2 users out there, BE EASY on me if you gonna beat me up for my comments I know Tmo Pro2 is running on a lot less preloaded apps than the Tilt2...gosh, I can only imagine how much apps AT&T preloaded in it since they did that to Tilt. But serious, it's the WinMo 6.5 you are going to test out...
Anyway, good luck.
If you buy it fully out right they can't make you do ****
I have a Fuze, a Tilt 2 and an iPhone. Among them all I think fuze is the most well build phone I've ever had, it just has that feel of solidity when you hold it, and the magnetic stylus tip just screams for quality.
I dont do too much sms, so I haven't really used the hardware keyboard on the tilt2 as much, but when I do use it, it really shines. It's way better than the Fuze keyboard or any BB keyboards.
I would say go for the Tilt 2, you wont regret it, but you do need to flash to a new ROM, cus the stock Rom is pretty darn slow...
AT&T 3G
Do you know of an HD2 that's compatilble with US AT&T 3G?
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I like my tilt 2 but thinking of selling it and getting a HD2.
I started getting the unlimited data for $15 several years ago on my V3i Razr and upgraded to a Palm 750 and then went to a Q9h by then I was not under contract anymore, I then bought a Tilt (ebay) stuck my sim card in it and never looked back. I bought a Tilt2 about 2-3 months ago and so far I havent been charged the $30 "PDA" plan still on the $15 so If I were you I would buy another phone on ebay and stick your old sim card in it and see what happens. I have heard of people doing this and being ok UNTIL they updated another non-smart phone on their plan and it knocked them out from under the grandfather clause, good luck.
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If I were you I would get the unlimited data plan if you still can. USA today just recently said ATT is getting rid of their unlimited plans for 14.99 for 200mb or $25.99 for 2GB. So if you don't sign up for unlimited now, you will never get it with ATT again. Plus they dumped their prepay deal so they pretty much suck now. I'm not gonna run a credit check for a $40 bill each month. So I switched to Tmobile with my ATT Tilt(1). Well turns out Tmobile runs on a different band then everyone else so to use 3G with Tmobile you have to have an actual Tmobile branded phone. Was planning on going back to ATT with the unlimited data then stumbled onto a slightly scratched up Tmobile Touch Pro 2 for $150. Snatched it up and livin the good Tmobile life. Turns out here Tmobile 3G is 10 times better then ATT. Even where guys are sleeping with their cousins I still get a strong 3G signal. And finally this happened at work which was funny as hell. My coworker has an iphone and ATT 3G. We have a lil cell phone war. I start up my youtube and show HD youtube as good as your desktop. He runs his youtube and it looks all crappy and low res. He then claims its because he's on 3G and if he were on wifi it would look as good as mine. Well I hooked up my 3G into a wifi router and damned if he wasn't right. His youtube was in HD when he was using my tmobile 3g conn. on his wifi iphone. Thought it would make a great Tmobile 3G war commercial. Lesson is all those maps and 3g speeds don't mean jack when you provider is limiting what you can do on your phone.
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Probably the LEO or international HD2 and not the Tmobile branded one.
I am happy with my Tilt2, I am using the cell rom. my phone kept its stock rom just long enought for me to get it home and flash it, I upgraded from the Tilt to the Tilt2, the phone is overall better, I just wish it had the flash like the Touch Pro.
Hmm. Thanks for all the input everyone.
So I was debating between the Tilt2 or the Bold 9700. Both phones will cost me $50 to get brand new so price isn't an issue. My main issue was no data + e-mail. I want a phone that works wonders with e-mail because that is the reason I need a smartphone.
After setting my heart to the 9700 and being very close to committing to it, I hear all this stuff about how you can't access Blackberry's e-mail (i.e. push e-mail) w/o a date plan because of ATT, RIM, and other providers requiring it. This brings me back to square one because the phone loses some of its spark if I can't have access to RIM's amazing e-mail client. Let's face it, outside of the e-mail, Blackberrys don't really get a lot of praise for the OS.
So for those of you who use Tilt2's e-mail, how is that? After reading so many responses, I am back to 50/50 or 60/40 in favor of the Tilt2. If all it takes is a ROM flash, then I don't have too much problems with that. But can you get push e-mail to the Tilt2?
you can actually get two push email on TP2, one for windows live and you can setup another one with outlook.
The only thing TP2 lacks is a little speed bump and flash light for camera.
I'm fully satisfied with my TP2, though I'm gonna import an HTC Desire from australia which works on AT&T's 3g band. After heavy research over the past few month, I feel android is the ultimate os that suits me the best..
So I finally checked out a Note2 in person at a T-Mobile store on Saturday & liked what I saw even if it doesn't have all the features that would have made it a more instant buy for me including the split-screen-multitasking- multi-view, screen recorder function, video maker app & higher capacities than 16GB (~10.9GB internal on this one). For the bezel I would have preferred black & the rest could be grey or white. The contrasting of the AT&T One X's black core bezel is nice.
I did notice the less alluring plasticky Samsung feel of it but will 99% likely put a case on it anyway & followed this video that did make it seem quicker The screen did not look so huge to me as it was noticeably narrower than the original Note1 & I seemed to be able to use it with one hand without issues except when using the S-pen obviously but it was in one of those central vise gripper holders sadly so I couldn't properly test it & pocketability yet. The central vise gripper holder did make the handset look larger & I admit I'm still curious to see the 5" 1080p HTC handset coming to Verizon soon but I think I prefer the versatility of the Note2's S-Pen functionality & large removable battery.
I liked the ability to change the screen mode to more natural etc & the speaker was thankfully strong but Note 3 should still go for stereo higher fidelity speakers & a brighter perhaps even full 1080p screen. The screen on the Note2 seemed just bright enough at max brightness but I did not get a chance to test it under sunny conditions. The camera & camcorder seemed great but not quite as amazing as the HTC OneX although the software features go a long way. I do hope a future update would be able to bring audio to slow motion video at 1080p however.
I installed Flash easily but did not seem to get the 1080p options on the desktop version of youtube.com & didn't have the time to look into it further there so while the "HQ" Iron Man 3 HD trailer looked good-my own 1080p video capture was noticeably sharper. My non 720p EVO does HQ, so shouldn't the Note2 play better HD youtube than "HQ"?
When I started using-drilling the Note2 at full brightness-full volume etc the battery was ~33% & I was able to shut it down in ~ 2 hours, doesn't that sound low?
I was also quite surprised by T-Mobile prices because according to online articles I wasn't expecting such a compelling case for T-Mobile but the HSPA+ speeds on the speedtest app were consistently impressive at over 20 Mbps down & ~ 2 Mbps up (although this store's location had excellent coverage compared to where I would use it most ~ 5 miles away with significantly more spotty map coverage (Verizon has best coverage here) with individual T-Mobile value plans starting at $50/mo (for 500whenevermin-unlimited text-unlimited plus data with 2GB high speed data-to unlimited everything for $20 more/mo. The Note2 was priced there at $250 + $20/mo for 20 months to pay off its $650 pricetag. Since currently the vast majority of the time I seem to have fast Wi-Fi access & I don't need more than 500 whenever min I think I should get by on that $50/mo plan & if I notice higher usage could go up to other plans depending on data & hotspot needs. I'm still evaluating the AT&T & Verizon plans but I don't see why I should put up with slow Sprint any longer when T-Mobile is flexible & fast but my use case coverage remains to be tested.. Thoughts on T-Mobile vs other carriers or my rambling comments above?
Time for more storm-prep here in NY metro area..
Nice lil' writeup.
I am not sure if the $250 + $20 a month extra is a good deal, but that's what I went with. They also gave me a $100 rebate, so... Hard to argue with that.
I figured being on WiFi most of my time, I'll just get the minimum minutes and dataplan I can get. Ends up being a bit cheaper than the $100+ I was spending with VZW.
Glad I made the move to T-Mobile even if the network here in Denver isn't as good as VZW.
Be safe out there!
Hey Smart.....
Don't put too much faith in T-Mobile's wi-fi calling app..... Although I have 100% wi-fi signal strength at home (same room as router), wi-fi calling only works about 50% of the time (doesn't let you answer calls.... even though phone is ringing, or you make a call and you cannot hear them but they can hear you, etc.). Per T-Mobile tech support, I've changed my SIM card twice now but that hasn't fixed any problems... Finally, the last tech support person I spoke to tells me, "Yeah, our Note's wi-fi calling app is buggy"
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Nice lil' writeup.
I am not sure if the $250 + $20 a month extra is a good deal, but that's what I went with. They also gave me a $100 rebate, so... Hard to argue with that.
I figured being on WiFi most of my time, I'll just get the minimum minutes and dataplan I can get. Ends up being a bit cheaper than the $100+ I was spending with VZW.
Glad I made the move to T-Mobile even if the network here in Denver isn't as good as VZW.
Be safe out there!
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How did you get a $100 rebate?
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Interesting to hear about the WiFi. It's been pretty great for me so far, although sometimes I can hear the echo of my voice coming back to me a second after I stopped talking, but so far so good.
As for the rebate? I have no idea. They just said it was eligible for $100 mail in rebate. They took care of the paperwork there, submitted it, and they said all I have to do is just wait for the check in the mail. We'll see about that too.
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Interesting to hear about the WiFi. It's been pretty great for me so far, although sometimes I can hear the echo of my voice coming back to me a second after I stopped talking, but so far so good.
As for the rebate? I have no idea. They just said it was eligible for $100 mail in rebate. They took care of the paperwork there, submitted it, and they said all I have to do is just wait for the check in the mail. We'll see about that too.
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Ilk he have to see them because they didn't offer any rebates to me and I have the same deal. I assume you have the value plan?
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craighwk said:
Nice lil' writeup.
I am not sure if the $250 + $20 a month extra is a good deal, but that's what I went with. They also gave me a $100 rebate, so... Hard to argue with that.
I figured being on WiFi most of my time, I'll just get the minimum minutes and dataplan I can get. Ends up being a bit cheaper than the $100+ I was spending with VZW.
Glad I made the move to T-Mobile even if the network here in Denver isn't as good as VZW.
Be safe out there!
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Thnx I lived in beautiful Boulder a couple years..:highfive:..what kind of speeds are you getting out there? I'll ask about any rebates but their pricing seems reasonable & flexible assuming service isn't significantly inferior for the user. I didn't ask about their return policy yet but Sprint is down to 14 days before ETF I think kicks in..? The manager also mentioned that she just got back from a meeting where NY could be getting LTE by March (won't hold my breath there but the in store HSPA+ downloads speed tests seemed great already unlike Sprint) & Note2 will get enabled for their LTE deployment.
I wonder if Skype+online# at $60/yr is better than T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling in how posters here describe it? I've set Skype online # + unlimited world subscription up for family traveling abroad & while certainly helpful they still manage to complain about its imperfections..:fingers-crossed:
I think I jinxed myself with WiFi. As soon as I posted that, I got a call from Dad that went straight to voicemail. Didn't hear the phone ring. Called him back and the call dropped immediately. He called me back and he couldn't hear me when I said hello. Went into settings, disabled Wifi, and everything was perfect. Oh well.
Speeds here aren't crazy or anything I checked two days ago and I was getting about 5 Mbit/sec when I was getting 9 with VZW. I guess that's not too bad considering this isn't true LTE, right?
As for the rebate I got, yes, I selected the value plan. Apparently it's because I ported a phone number over. I'm looking at the rebate and it says "Mountain Plains Port in Online Promotion". $100 rebate card mailed to me 4-6 weeks.
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I think I jinxed myself with WiFi. As soon as I posted that, I got a call from Dad that went straight to voicemail. Didn't hear the phone ring. Called him back and the call dropped immediately. He called me back and he couldn't hear me when I said hello. Went into settings, disabled Wifi, and everything was perfect. Oh well.
Speeds here aren't crazy or anything I checked two days ago and I was getting about 5 Mbit/sec when I was getting 9 with VZW. I guess that's not too bad considering this isn't true LTE, right?
As for the rebate I got, yes, I selected the value plan. Apparently it's because I ported a phone number over. I'm looking at the rebate and it says "Mountain Plains Port in Online Promotion". $100 rebate card mailed to me 4-6 weeks.
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Gotcha. I ported mine a month ago so I dont think I qualify. Thanks for the info and sorry to the OP for changing the subject of his thread.
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craighwk said:
I think I jinxed myself with WiFi. As soon as I posted that, I got a call from Dad that went straight to voicemail. Didn't hear the phone ring. Called him back and the call dropped immediately. He called me back and he couldn't hear me when I said hello. Went into settings, disabled Wifi, and everything was perfect. Oh well.
Speeds here aren't crazy or anything I checked two days ago and I was getting about 5 Mbit/sec when I was getting 9 with VZW. I guess that's not too bad considering this isn't true LTE, right?
As for the rebate I got, yes, I selected the value plan. Apparently it's because I ported a phone number over. I'm looking at the rebate and it says "Mountain Plains Port in Online Promotion". $100 rebate card mailed to me 4-6 weeks.
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Good to know about the relative unreliability of T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling. It's happened with Skype setups too going to voicemail after not really ringing, video calls almost seem more reliable at certain times perhaps because everyone is using some kind of computer (includes smartphones).. Hey 5 Mbps is fast enough to stream quality video right..can't say that with Sprint's 1Mbps avg 3G here..Vs my 75 Mbps dwnld / 35 Mbps upload FIOS network connections
I wouldn't be surprised if Google disrupts internet telephony beyond their Google Voice eventually..too bad they had to cancel flights to the NYC Android event tomorrow because of this frankenstorm forecast that I'm still hoping will not really happen or at least not really affect up to 60 million:fingers-crossed: Got an emergency call from local gov warning of possible power loss for up to 7-10 days which would obviously suck & to secure property before tonight
I'd ask about any porting promotion but by that cited name it may be regional.. Any ETA for a similar update that brought the intl model split-screen-multitasking- multi-view? People otherwise happy with their Note2 on T-Mobile?
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Any ETA for a similar update that brought the intl model split-screen-multitasking- multi-view? People otherwise happy with their Note2 on T-Mobile?
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No ETA on the multiview feature. I'm quite happy with mines . Battery life if phenomenal... had a 50 minute skype call last night (with video on wifi at 70% brightness) and my battery only dropped 17%... that would've been the end of my Sensation.
Oh, one issue with Samsung... they need to get more accessories in stock on their site... I can't buy anything with my 50% off coupon... =.=
craighwk said:
I think I jinxed myself with WiFi. As soon as I posted that, I got a call from Dad that went straight to voicemail. Didn't hear the phone ring. Called him back and the call dropped immediately. He called me back and he couldn't hear me when I said hello. Went into settings, disabled Wifi, and everything was perfect. Oh well.
Speeds here aren't crazy or anything I checked two days ago and I was getting about 5 Mbit/sec when I was getting 9 with VZW. I guess that's not too bad considering this isn't true LTE, right?
As for the rebate I got, yes, I selected the value plan. Apparently it's because I ported a phone number over. I'm looking at the rebate and it says "Mountain Plains Port in Online Promotion". $100 rebate card mailed to me 4-6 weeks.
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Hi Craig, you might want to check your router settings. I was having problems with my Wifi Calling too, but since I played with some settings, it works perfectly now (both on my Sensation and my Note II)
Geo411m said:
How did you get a $100 rebate?
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My local TMO store offered only a $50 rebate. I'll have to press him harder.
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I think you're right on the money. IMO, the Tmo Note II on value plan is the best option for any phone lover right now. That is assuming of course you have decent reception where you need it. I'm in SoCal and Tmo gets great reception here. I "only" get 12-16mbps down here so far, but feel that LTE will light it off pretty good next year. While I'd love a 1080p display, I wouldn't love an HTC so the Butterfly variants are out. Plus, the expandable memory and tremendous battery life are great. Lastly, Touchwiz on this phone is pretty decent. This is my first TW device, but compared to Sense or even Vanilla, I gotta say I like what Samsung has done here.
farfromovin said:
I think you're right on the money. IMO, the Tmo Note II on value plan is the best option for any phone lover right now. That is assuming of course you have decent reception where you need it. I'm in SoCal and Tmo gets great reception here. I "only" get 12-16mbps down here so far, but feel that LTE will light it off pretty good next year. While I'd love a 1080p display, I wouldn't love an HTC so the Butterfly variants are out. Plus, the expandable memory and tremendous battery life are great. Lastly, Touchwiz on this phone is pretty decent. This is my first TW device, but compared to Sense or even Vanilla, I gotta say I like what Samsung has done here.
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Great answer, I switch from sprint to tmobile and never looked backed over 2 years ago. I really enjoy my gn2 I bought and my wife the gs3 and switched my plan to the value plan. Saving about 80 dollars a month. I can go a whole day with out charging my phone even though I keep my charger around my neck as a habit from previous phones. I can live with out some features that tmobile gn2 has left out. When they'll come I'll update as for now, I'll waite. Half of the people don't use half of the features some phones have anyway.
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farfromovin said:
I think you're right on the money. IMO, the Tmo Note II on value plan is the best option for any phone lover right now. That is assuming of course you have decent reception where you need it. I'm in SoCal and Tmo gets great reception here. I "only" get 12-16mbps down here so far, but feel that LTE will light it off pretty good next year. While I'd love a 1080p display, I wouldn't love an HTC so the Butterfly variants are out. Plus, the expandable memory and tremendous battery life are great. Lastly, Touchwiz on this phone is pretty decent. This is my first TW device, but compared to Sense or even Vanilla, I gotta say I like what Samsung has done here.
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I'm good with HSPA+... I get 24mbps on a good day, and average 15 mbps around town. Considering that T-Mobile has DC-HSPA that goes up to 41mbps, if that saturate that network, then I'm fine. Heck, 15mbps is faster than the home internet of at least 75% of the nation.
I don't mind the touchwiz, but the 5x4 icon layout is just plain dumb. it's an ENORMOUS waste of space, other than that, no real gripes here.
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I'm good with HSPA+... I get 24mbps on a good day, and average 15 mbps around town. Considering that T-Mobile has DC-HSPA that goes up to 41mbps, if that saturate that network, then I'm fine. Heck, 15mbps is faster than the home internet of at least 75% of the nation.
I don't mind the touchwiz, but the 5x4 icon layout is just plain dumb. it's an ENORMOUS waste of space, other than that, no real gripes here.
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Yeah that's what I was thinking!! Why the heck would Samsung give us a 5x4 layout in a 5.5in screen-_- I'm positive they could of managed a 5x5. Besides that I'm in looooove. Just want that Damn multi Window feature already!