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Any news on HTC version of WM6?

Does anyone know the latest or expected date for the generic HTC version of the WM6 rom?
cheers

I've called HTC Europe yesterday. They answer me the rom could be available at end of Juni or July.
(sorry for my english)

thanks for the reply, but bad news now July is getting mentioned :-(
cheers
Gus

ok, sorry. Where do you find this news ? (for my information)

umm, you gave me it??

I called them too... They confirmed that they 'hoped' that it would come out still in June... But no more specific information other then in the already existing press release in regard to WM6 in general on their website.
Frustrating, that the branded devices 'go first', and that it's merely a political issue not to release the upgrade yet...
If at least a 'decent' expectation would be set, one could choose between the unlocking and the WM6 version of T-Mobile...

wmeter said:
I called them too... They confirmed that they 'hoped' that it would come out still in June... But no more specific information other then in the already existing press release in regard to WM6 in general on their website.
Frustrating, that the branded devices 'go first', and that it's merely a political issue not to release the upgrade yet...
If at least a 'decent' expectation would be set, one could choose between the unlocking and the WM6 version of T-Mobile...
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Same thing, I called UK hotline and they mentioned somewhere between the last week of june and the first one of july.

It's very frustrating, I've got six I'd like to update and have already been down the unsuccessful road of using the T-Mobile ROM.
I wish HTC would get their skates on with this for people who have been brand loyal to HTC instead of buying a carrier specific model (Dash, etc).

S620 WM6?

Anyone heard anything more about the WM6 upgrades for the S620 that HTC was supposed to put out in the May/June timeframe? There's not much time left in that "frame" - was hoping to hear something by now. I'd prefer to not have to mess with trying to put the TMo ROM on there.

nop there has been no news at all keep checking this page:
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/software/

It's pretty much July. I'm expecting an update to come out yesterday.

Any other source, other than the website where we could have any more information?

Download link for T-Mobile's WM6 is here:
http://t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
Comes with some fandango, and more t-mobile... (well, you tell me, i don't know how the HTC wm6 compares)
you can use my number:
2 m 0 r 5 a 5 e 2 r 9 y 7 c 9 e 4 o 0 s

Is it locked to T-mobile?

HTC eClub
Anybody joined the HTC eClub?
I think they are gonna distribute the WM6 that way, since I can't register my Dash there I can't confirm. Can someone with a S620 sign up and see if the update is available now?

htc club
Hi i have joined the club, as i have a HTC s620. There have been no updates as of yet. I will be checking the site most days, so as soon as i hear anything i will post here

No updates other than some audio driver. This is really getting annoying.

Does anyone know if the VoIP feature will be included with this HTC release? (I'm talking about internet calling if nobody knows what I'm talking about.)

September!!!!!!
Below is an email I just got from HTC:
The Windows Mobile 6 update will roll out from June. The provisional date for the S620 is believed to be in September. We have no more accurate information than that and as it is a provisional schedule, it is possible that if any last minute problems are encountered in the final testing phase, it may be delayed.
Thank You for your enquiry. Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
Kind regards
Khushal Hirani
HTC Europe Support
[email protected]
http://www.HTC.com

BBAdmin said:
No updates other than some audio driver. This is really getting annoying.
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It's getting worse now... I just called them again to complain, and they said that the june timeframe reffered to 'information on the upgrade to WM6' and not the upgrade itself... They told me that they expect the update now mid-september....

wmeter said:
It's getting worse now... I just called them again to complain, and they said that the june timeframe reffered to 'information on the upgrade to WM6' and not the upgrade itself... They told me that they expect the update now mid-september....
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yeh i know thats why september is in bold in the email above.

Too bad there is no real competition on the market. Otherwise I would switch now. This is pissing the customer in the face.
I really love my S620 it's great hardware but not sure if I can hold out with WM5 too much longer.

S620 upgrade WM6
I called their support line on Tuesday (July 3) and the gentleman on the phone told me to expect the WM6 update around late July. I don't think they know for sure.
If I knew how to clean a rom of all that T-Mobile garbage I'd upgrade to WM6 using the T-Mobile rom.

So, just to amuse myself (and possibly others), I called HTC's hotline again, asking when WM6 comes out for the S620. The gentleman on the phone read me the email that was sent out to the phone support folks about WM6, and it went a little something like this:
"WM6 is a big OS upgrade, and all new HTC devices are using WM6, so basically HTC is tailoring the WM6 upgrades for each of their devices that support the upgrade. The Sprint MDA upgrade for WM6 came out 2 days, however, HTC will be releasing the WM6 upgrade for the S620 at the end of July, but no later than the middle of August."
<sarcasm>
In summary, HTC is aware of our concerns and doesn't contradict themselves.
</sarcasm>

Tell them T-mobile already has released WM6 and since the device is actually made by HTC its absolutely ridiculous that T-mobile can tailor the device quicker than HTC can.
The Cavalier is out this month so I can see alot of people ebaying their S620 and going for the much more powerful S630, probably what HTC are hoping anyway and why they are delaying the update. Furthermore they probably didn't sell as many of the Vox as they would have liked because people realised that the Excalibur/Caviliar form factor is so much nicer.

indiekiduk said:
Tell them T-mobile already has released WM6 and since the device is actually made by HTC its absolutely ridiculous that T-mobile can tailor the device quicker than HTC can.
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Yes but the T-Mobile WM6 ROM is crap.
I have it on my Dash. It is full of bugs and memory leaks. I am waiting to HTC to release the S620 WM6 ROM, then I'm going to buy an S620 and ditch my Dash.
Give them time to get it right and not hastily release a buggy ROM.

This is very disappointing. I hope this is not the case with all the said upgrades.

htc is delaying it for 1 reason because they what people to get fed up and by a new phone with wm6 built in. EXAMPLE: htc x7500 which has wm5 and htc x7501 has wm6. now you can already buy the x7501 at CompUSA for $899 just check if you dont believe me. but wm6 upgrade for x7500 won't be out untill september, makes no sense to me

Official ROM update confirmed

HTC norway was interviewed today at www.amobil.no, and the following question was raised from one of the readers, with the following reply.
Question:
Reader said:
(...) Second of all: Windows Mobile 6.5 and 7.0; will it be possible to update Diamond, Pro and HD and/or other models with the new versions of WM?
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Reply:
HTC Representative said:
There'll be a ROM-update for Diamond and Touch Pro in january , where we got a new MSFT release for WM6.1 and improved TouchFlo3d."
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Source (norwegian)
At least that confirms the 2.0 version we've seen? And the release date Hurray!

wew
that's grate news

TFLo3d
It's not as responsive as I see it in the youtube vids.
Seems to run flawlessly.
I notice a real slow down when I import contacts. I have quite a few.

and what is with the new versions of WM?

To the question : "WM6.5 or WM7 on diamond ?", the answer is "YEEES ! you will have WM6.1++ !!!"
I think it means we won't have them from HTC, as they probably reserve it for a brand new phone they'll try to sell us...
But XDA developpers are the bests, so i'm sure we can expect them to cook a nice WM7 Rom as soon as it will be available...

Let's hope WM7 will be able to run on our Diamonds. Can't wait till the release!

Not too sound too negative, but I mean WM6 kills the diamond - it makes it choke (cooked ROM's or not).
Hopefully that won't be the case for WM7. Because up to this point, I'm rooting Android all the way

This is pure speculation from all of us, since we're talking about an unreleased product. That said, Windows 7 beta seems a lot snappier than Vista (I know - doesn't say much) and slightly faster than XP. So, maybe WM7 will run faster than 6.1?

Some people have mentioned WM7, I highly doubt HTC will release 6.5 for the Diam/Raph/BlackS, never mind 7.
Good thing we have xda-devs, though I suspect that 7 will require new and diff. hardware in phones, such as multitouch.

how reliable is the news?
yea wm really sucks.. ms is really poor at innovation..
diamond doesnt have multi touch?
anyway been waiting for a new official rom for a damn long time.. was tempted to flash to a cooked rom.. so i guess can wait till jan for now to see what they offer..
Hopefully they resolve issues like memory leak.. and learn from the forums what the users really expect of the diamond and tf3d..

LOL when it be wm7 upgrade you ll have another **** phone from htc so what are you solving here i consider that due to ms is poor bastard* wm7 will be at 2010...just look to articles and news...

detroix said:
how reliable is the news?
(...)
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The guy interviewed is:
"Selskapets produktsjef for de nordiske og baltiske markedene, Christer Högström" ==> "HTC's Chief of Products for the nordic and baltic markets, Christer Högström"
So probably as reliable as it gets before the actual download is available.
Edit:
HTC actually got a bunch of questions regarding WM6.5 on current models, to sum up they're answers:
HTC will have to pay an upgrade license per device for 6.1 to 6.5, the details regarding this is not all worked out yet, so he couldn't answer if there would be released official 6.5 updates and if it would be free or a upgrade fee involved.
I suppose most/many of the hardcore users would be interested in upgrading if the fee vs gains is the right...

Don't hold your breath!
If HTC release an official 6.5 ROM upgrade for the Diamond, I will video myself eating my device and post it on YouTube for all to see! New OS means sales of NEW devices.... this makes good sense for businesses. Why offer an upgrade for a device someone has already bought when they can sell you a nice new device with the latest OS installed?
Thank goodness for XDA Developers, that's what I say! We will have our upgrade one way or another!

grahamkdt said:
If HTC release an official 6.5 ROM upgrade for the Diamond, I will video myself eating my device and post it on YouTube for all to see! New OS means sales of NEW devices.... this makes good sense for businesses. Why offer an upgrade for a device someone has already bought when they can sell you a nice new device with the latest OS installed?
Thank goodness for XDA Developers, that's what I say! We will have our upgrade one way or another!
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Tottaly agree. (Even though i wouldn't mind seeing Diamond beeing eaten )

Ooops!
Jura_ZG said:
Tottaly agree. (Even though i wouldn't mind seeing Diamond beeing eaten )
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... yes, I might live to regret putting that in print!

will it happen????????
i don't think so....it will be xda members that will make it happen....
not the phone operators....they want you to buy a new phone and sign up again for 12 months +....well thats what i think any how

Jura_ZG said:
Tottaly agree. (Even though i wouldn't mind seeing Diamond beeing eaten )
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I totally agree too. The same happened for my old Trinity (no wm 6.1 version was released by HTC but very good cook version from xda people )

jojordy said:
I totally agree too. The same happened for my old Trinity (no wm 6.1 version was released by HTC but very good cook version from xda people )
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i miss my trinity.....great phone

liamhere said:
i miss my trinity.....great phone
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I confirm! I sell it to a friend but in my opinion for more things is much better than my new diamond ... (only few ram)

Making an upgrade available for some small fee wouldn't be that bad. Bussinesswise I understand your viewpoints but on the other hand, I buy my phone for 500EUR ($800 or something) I think for that price I can get some service. If I get bad service I wouldn't stay with HTC, but frequent updates will make me buy another one (or your operator will buy another one for you with ur contract), if that's 500EUR every 2 years I think they can be really happy.

WM6.5 official upgrade

Hi,
I thought I read somewhere HTC would release this upgrade for the tp2 today? Does anyone know if this is the case, and where to get it? I could not find anything on HTC's site re WM6.5.
Thanks.

Noone knows a thing. Everyone expects the release to be tomorrow. But since some providers are already releasing it today, who knows?
There isn't any hard evidence to say when it's going to come out.

This is on Microsoft's site, hope it makes things clearer
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx

Wot? No Diamond2 on the list?? Ouch!

Mesquire said:
Wot? No Diamond2 on the list?? Ouch!
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Over the next few months, our partners may release updates to some of their Windows Mobile 6.1 phones. As the updates become available, we’ll add links here that will guide you to the installation instructions on the web site of your mobile operator or manufacturer. If you don’t see your phone in the list below, check back soon—we’ll be updating this page frequently.
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This clarify some things...

I asked htc tech support the 6.5 question. They responded in minutes. That's a response speed I certainly did not expect! Very good, though I'm sure they are fed up answering the same question...
They've advised they are currently dealing with the license packges from microsoft (whatever that means), but no release date was mentioned. Doesn't sound far away though.

Hi,
I have downloaded on HTC Support site an update for my TP2 from Orange.
The file is named RUU_Rhodium_Orange_FR-B2B_1.19.73.5_Radio_Rhodium_3.45.25.14_Signed_Ship.exe dating October 1st 2009....
Can anyone tell me if it's WM 6.5 ? Or just an update of my 1.19.73.3 (51489) WM6.1 ?
Thanks
EDIT : Stupid question after reading at Microsoft that the WM 6.5 availability date is not yet known....
Sorry

The release date for TP2 is Thursday this week.

nukleuzN said:
The release date for TP2 is Thursday this week.
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Proof please.

Not possible. I know the Sales Representative for WM Norway. He told me. I have known the release dates for a quite long time now.

This is a message on HTC's website:
If you have a phone from Orange or another provider though HTC won't be providing the update (not too sure I have much faith in Orange to provide an update).
http://www.htc.com/europe/press.aspx?id=112024&lang=1033
Availability
The HTC Touch2, Touch Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 with Windows Mobile 6.5 are available through selected operators across Europe now and will be rolling out to other regions in the coming months. The new HTC HD2 will be available soon with selected operators across Europe, before rolling out to other regions.
Notes to Editors
Customers with an original HTC Touch Diamond2 or Touch Pro2 will be able to update their phone via a new ROM which will be available from HTC’s website in the coming weeks at www.htc.com.

nukleuzN said:
Not possible. I know the Sales Representative for WM Norway. He told me. I have known the release dates for a quite long time now.
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Sales reps know nothing. Seriously.

nukleuzN said:
Not possible. I know the Sales Representative for WM Norway. He told me. I have known the release dates for a quite long time now.
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lol well find out soon enough if right.

Well answer on Microsoft site has still not changed..
Last updated October 6, 2009
Phone Manufacturer Expected availability*
Dash 3G HTC Date not yet available
Jack Samsung Date not yet available
Epix Samsung Date not yet available
Omnia 2 Samsung Date not yet available
Ozone HTC Date not yet available
Snap HTC Date not yet available
Touch Pro 2 HTC Date not yet available
Traveler 137 Pharos Date not yet available
* Dates provided by our partners and are subject to change. Update availability not guaranteed.

Check this out.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx
I just received it via email.
/\oops the person above me got it too. /\

Did anyone else wake up this morning to a 6.5 update?
No really, I woke this morning and slapped my TP2 to shut off my alarm to be alarmed myself, I had a Windows Update telling me to upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.5. I pretty much crapped myself at that point, it started off and gave my the orange installation screen, than after a minute or two it gave me an installation failed message.
After that I frantically tried running Windows Update but the connection timed out continuously. Just wondering if I am the only to receive this?
If this happens tomorrow I promise pictures, but was this an isolated incident? Or did everyone else get this via Microsoft?
As much as I want 6.5, I'm in no rush, the internet is on fire with "6.5 sucks" stories. I personally just want TouchFlo3D 2.5, that twitter integration is calling my name.
/firstpost

HTC sure plays spoil sport - with expectations.
(i know they never told they will release the update on 6th, but when a date was announced by microsoft the two companies should have worked together to release the updates for every phone in their list. This is so not good for their PR).
I really dont see how microsoft expects to win the mobile phone war. By the time they come out with WinMO 7, they will again be miles behind, if all they could manage was a shoddy job at winmo 6.5 which apparently has nothing great to talk about - except IE - and who uses it anyway!)
I stuck to winmo all these years, as 5 years ago it was a good business phone and it also supported bberry.
This year i finally split and bought a bberry as there was no update for TP2 coming for months. - again, its a function of marketing - keep customers happy. I know there has never been a promise by htc on integrating bberry software on winmo, yet, after a point, people start expecting.
Somehow these giants just dont get it when it comes to customer service and marketing. Microsoft has definitely lost a customer the day i split and bought a second phone which is a pure bberry. The next upgrade, i will skip winmo entirely and look at the offerings from android and webos...
live long and prosper microsoft - if u can!....

T-Mobile Germany released the update today:
http://www.t-mobile.de/shop/handy/0,4855,2963-_16608-0-8949;CNC-4,00.html

Yes, i've found it too. After uownloading and unpacking i got a file named "RUU_Rhodium_S_TMO_DE_1.85.111.1_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.05_Signed_Ship.exe". With 7zip i've seen, the date of the NBH is 17th of September, don't know which version they used.
But i don't want to have this (i guess) buggy and extremly branded system on my device. I'll wait for an unbranded HTC-release or one from O2(DE), these are nearly unchanged too.

mcfish said:
I'll wait for an unbranded HTC-release or one from O2(DE), these are nearly unchanged too.
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is it possible to install òne of these roms on a vario V without any problems?

Is is true that HD2 is Windows phone 7 upgradable?

Hi I went to internet and saw an news article about HD2 from MS Korea . The spokesman said that HD2 will not be upgradable to WP7 since it has
-Lesser ROm (567mb requirement compared to 512mb)
-more button( 3button requirement and HD2 has 5)
personally 2nd reason is BS and 1st reason is kind of ignorable since you can remove ringtons etc to slim down the rom I guess
They added please don't get misunderstood and fall into victim of scam or something along the line
I am sure that XDA will manage though, 55mb Rom is not that much (But it really depends on how m$ builded WP7. What if core component is 567 mb lol)
If you want to read the article, run google translate. I know how to read korean so... BTW, this is sort of reliable site.
http://www.etnews.co.kr/news/detail.html?id=201003140008
Thanks I guess Touch Diamond 2 don't even stand a chance at all
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do one google on that question.
If you dont find your answer searching the around the forum, one google search should make give you a crystal clear answer for that question.
For what I know, HTC wil not support any winp7 ROM upgrade for Leo. But what the developers here wil come up with, you just have to wait and see.

my mistake
my reply probably did not adress your question.

oh no... it's neverending....
Alright guys.....
Latest news first:
HD2 will run WP7 just download the beta ROM from HTC China!!!

First, the politics of Microsoft always sux, cos, they dont care about costumers, what is leading them on front, is MONEY EARNING and DRAINING them from our POCKETS, so, they will find a way how to say that their OS wont run on HD2, cos they expect from us to get new phones, and fill their pockets again.

HTC HD2 running WP7...2 Answers.
Offical from MS or OEM: NO
3rd party hacker: Maybe but, it would be the only way
If your buying a HD2 thinking you will get WP7 on it....think again.

Wm7 is coming to the leo
DavidinCT said:
HTC HD2 running WP7...2 Answers.
Offical from MS or OEM: NO
3rd party hacker: Maybe but, it would be the only way
If your buying a HD2 thinking you will get WP7 on it....think again.
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And I got this from the HTC officially:
This was my question's:
I have a 1.66 wwe rom on my hd2. But when are the update to this coming? As manny of the applications in that rom are out dated, ex. the Opera 10 is out, Facebook is updated, pluss many other. And the 578 mb ram everybody knows it has, when will that radio be baked inn? And finaly, everybody knows wm7 will come to the hd2, when?
Anoying lazy info on the forums everywhere is confusing me!
And bellow is the answers;
Christian
(Nordics Support
(Tech)) Close Pending Dear Magne, Yes this is correct. Kind regards HTC Technical Support Team. 2010/03/23 08:19:03
Magne Petkovic Reply So this means that the 576 mb pluss everything else will be available at the time of the wm7 relase and that there will be no updates to wm6.5 after this? 2010/03/22 17:43:27
Magne Petkovic Reply So this means that the 576 mb pluss everything else will be available at the time of the wm7 relase and that there will be no updates to wm6.5 after this? 2010/03/22 17:42:04
Magne Petkovic Reply So this means that the 576 mb pluss everything else will be available at the time of the wm7 relase and that there will be no updates to wm6.5 after this? 2010/03/22 17:42:04
Christian
(Nordics Support
(Tech)) Close Pending Hi Magne, Thank you for your email. The new upgrade will be coming when windows 7 is released. Unfortunately we have not been given a release date for HTC yet. We should not be waiting too long though. When it does get released it will be available to download from our website. Kind regards HTC Technical Support Team. 2010/03/22 10:21:01
Christian
(Nordics Support
(Tech)) Close Pending Hi Magne, Thank you for your email. The new upgrade will be coming when windows 7 is released. Unfortunately we have not been given a release date for HTC yet. We should not be waiting too long though. When it does get released it will be available to download from our website. Kind regards HTC Technical Support Team. 2010/03/22 10:20:56
We should not be waiting too long though.
HOW LONG IS THAT?

The HD2 ROM/RAM question.
sqmemory13 said:
Hi I went to internet and saw an news article about HD2 from MS Korea . The spokesman said that HD2 will not be upgradable to WP7 since it has
-Lesser ROm (567mb requirement compared to 512mb)
-more button( 3button requirement and HD2 has 5)
personally 2nd reason is BS and 1st reason is kind of ignorable since you can remove ringtons etc to slim down the rom I guess
They added please don't get misunderstood and fall into victim of scam or something along the line
I am sure that XDA will manage though, 55mb Rom is not that much (But it really depends on how m$ builded WP7. What if core component is 567 mb lol)
If you want to read the article, run google translate. I know how to read korean so... BTW, this is sort of reliable site.
http://www.etnews.co.kr/news/detail.html?id=201003140008
Thanks I guess Touch Diamond 2 don't even stand a chance at all
post script: OMG 567 mb is like almost Windows xp disk iso image size
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The HD2 actually has 576 mb ram and 512 rom. And I have it directly from HTC that the wm7 is coming to the leo.

Yeah yeah politics from MS says if the device dont have that hardware snesor buttons required to WP7S it will not have WP7S... but HTC new device HTC EVO have the buttons check T3.com

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Yeah yeah politics from MS says if the device dont have that hardware snesor buttons required to WP7S it will not have WP7S... but HTC new device HTC EVO have the buttons check T3.com
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Just like they said that the Blue Angel would not get past WM 2003SE
... Oh Lord, if I had a penny....
BTW, what's up Que!? Haven't talked to you in a while now...

Is It a WWE ROM or a China special ???
RAMMANN said:
oh no... it's neverending....
Alright guys.....
Latest news first:
HD2 will run WP7 just download the beta ROM from HTC China!!!
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RAMMANN,
Where did you find the beta ROM on the Chinese HTC site?
I searched for it running translation, and found no such animal for the HTC HD2 T8585 or T9193.
Can you give the link, or is the ROM chinese based only...............

If happens this is the place where we´ll know first

RAMMANN said:
oh no... it's neverending....
Alright guys.....
Latest news first:
HD2 will run WP7 just download the beta ROM from HTC China!!!
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really?Why don't I know about it?

I don't think a Rom exists as no one is supporting it yet.

I contacted HTC Uk askking if there will be an official ROM to download to put on our beloved HD2. The responce was short and sweet and I will quote.......
"Unfortunately there is no plan from Microsoft to update WM version 6.5 to version 7."