Anyone heard anything more about the WM6 upgrades for the S620 that HTC was supposed to put out in the May/June timeframe? There's not much time left in that "frame" - was hoping to hear something by now. I'd prefer to not have to mess with trying to put the TMo ROM on there.
nop there has been no news at all keep checking this page:
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/software/
It's pretty much July. I'm expecting an update to come out yesterday.
Any other source, other than the website where we could have any more information?
Download link for T-Mobile's WM6 is here:
http://t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
Comes with some fandango, and more t-mobile... (well, you tell me, i don't know how the HTC wm6 compares)
you can use my number:
2 m 0 r 5 a 5 e 2 r 9 y 7 c 9 e 4 o 0 s
Is it locked to T-mobile?
HTC eClub
Anybody joined the HTC eClub?
I think they are gonna distribute the WM6 that way, since I can't register my Dash there I can't confirm. Can someone with a S620 sign up and see if the update is available now?
htc club
Hi i have joined the club, as i have a HTC s620. There have been no updates as of yet. I will be checking the site most days, so as soon as i hear anything i will post here
No updates other than some audio driver. This is really getting annoying.
Does anyone know if the VoIP feature will be included with this HTC release? (I'm talking about internet calling if nobody knows what I'm talking about.)
September!!!!!!
Below is an email I just got from HTC:
The Windows Mobile 6 update will roll out from June. The provisional date for the S620 is believed to be in September. We have no more accurate information than that and as it is a provisional schedule, it is possible that if any last minute problems are encountered in the final testing phase, it may be delayed.
Thank You for your enquiry. Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
Kind regards
Khushal Hirani
HTC Europe Support
[email protected]
http://www.HTC.com
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No updates other than some audio driver. This is really getting annoying.
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It's getting worse now... I just called them again to complain, and they said that the june timeframe reffered to 'information on the upgrade to WM6' and not the upgrade itself... They told me that they expect the update now mid-september....
wmeter said:
It's getting worse now... I just called them again to complain, and they said that the june timeframe reffered to 'information on the upgrade to WM6' and not the upgrade itself... They told me that they expect the update now mid-september....
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yeh i know thats why september is in bold in the email above.
Too bad there is no real competition on the market. Otherwise I would switch now. This is pissing the customer in the face.
I really love my S620 it's great hardware but not sure if I can hold out with WM5 too much longer.
S620 upgrade WM6
I called their support line on Tuesday (July 3) and the gentleman on the phone told me to expect the WM6 update around late July. I don't think they know for sure.
If I knew how to clean a rom of all that T-Mobile garbage I'd upgrade to WM6 using the T-Mobile rom.
So, just to amuse myself (and possibly others), I called HTC's hotline again, asking when WM6 comes out for the S620. The gentleman on the phone read me the email that was sent out to the phone support folks about WM6, and it went a little something like this:
"WM6 is a big OS upgrade, and all new HTC devices are using WM6, so basically HTC is tailoring the WM6 upgrades for each of their devices that support the upgrade. The Sprint MDA upgrade for WM6 came out 2 days, however, HTC will be releasing the WM6 upgrade for the S620 at the end of July, but no later than the middle of August."
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In summary, HTC is aware of our concerns and doesn't contradict themselves.
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Tell them T-mobile already has released WM6 and since the device is actually made by HTC its absolutely ridiculous that T-mobile can tailor the device quicker than HTC can.
The Cavalier is out this month so I can see alot of people ebaying their S620 and going for the much more powerful S630, probably what HTC are hoping anyway and why they are delaying the update. Furthermore they probably didn't sell as many of the Vox as they would have liked because people realised that the Excalibur/Caviliar form factor is so much nicer.
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Tell them T-mobile already has released WM6 and since the device is actually made by HTC its absolutely ridiculous that T-mobile can tailor the device quicker than HTC can.
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Yes but the T-Mobile WM6 ROM is crap.
I have it on my Dash. It is full of bugs and memory leaks. I am waiting to HTC to release the S620 WM6 ROM, then I'm going to buy an S620 and ditch my Dash.
Give them time to get it right and not hastily release a buggy ROM.
This is very disappointing. I hope this is not the case with all the said upgrades.
htc is delaying it for 1 reason because they what people to get fed up and by a new phone with wm6 built in. EXAMPLE: htc x7500 which has wm5 and htc x7501 has wm6. now you can already buy the x7501 at CompUSA for $899 just check if you dont believe me. but wm6 upgrade for x7500 won't be out untill september, makes no sense to me
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...that's great!!!
like i said, i dunno when, but i did ask them point blank, is WM5 cgoing to come to the Blue Angel, the lady said yes, but i did ask to be a tester and she took my email down , id love to go work for them
Great
I'm really looking forward to WM2005. Please let us now when you here more about this subject.
i'll let everyone know as soon as i hear more information about it
i'm looking forward for blueangel's WM5
keep us up to date!
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like i said, i dunno when, but i did ask them point blank, is WM5 cgoing to come to the Blue Angel, the lady said yes, but i did ask to be a tester and she took my email down , id love to go work for them
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and if u do get to be a tester, please share the rom! yay!
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lseattleboi1982 Said:
love having cool connections, i just spoke to the HTC reps that stopped over at my work, and asked if the Blue Angel is going to receive a WM5 upgrade, they told me yes!!! dunno when but the blue angel will get the WM5 upgrade sometime this year, so now i know i need to purchase one, anyone wanna donate a Blue angel
I'm sorry, but would you ask your friend if there's any WM5 for HTC Alphine?Again sorry if I have bad english, hope to hear from you.
Thanks a lot before.... -> English
Terima Kasih Banyak -> Indonesian
Sorry to burst bubbles but dont take teh word on the REP. HTC IS NOT Releasing the Upgrade to the Blueangel.
My guess this is a FOR FEE upgrade
A couple of years ago, HP charged $30.00 to upgrade from PPC 2002 to PPC 2003. I see no reason why the carriers wouldn't try the same thing again.
I'd have to imagine that Microsoft is not going to give a new OS away for free (why should they?). They certainly have never done it before.
HTC has never released any rom to the public. This is not part of thier core business.
Its the carriers that give us roms or not as in the case of t.mobile uk which has yet to release the 1.31 wwe rom.
Facts.
We have proof of a wm5 rom through MS video and trade shows.
We have no statements from any carrier that they will upgrade BA to wm5.
We all want the wm5 and most of us will get when our contracts run out and we buy a new device (which is what carriers want)
Pop sorry
Are only how is grab_it and somebody with a BA that has benn loaded with wm5.
well...carriers to the best of my knowledge make no profit from selling these devices. What they want are subscribers.
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any reason why you use t-mobile if your a cingular employee being that employees get great discounts on service?
sales reps will feed you anything to be interested in their product, simple as that.
Cingular update no!
I spoke to an engineer at siemens and there will be no 5.0 update but there will be a 1.40 update w/ media player 10
A few months ago, I had the Orange SPV C500 smartphone (I dunno what HTC call it, I forgot)
Anyway, Microsoft were adament that no old Smartphones would get a Media Player 10 update, only newer models. Weeks later, Audiovox started releasing their version of the C500 with MP10 as standard.
Orange Assured us there would be no further ROM updates for u at all.
2 weeks after that, out of the blue, Orange released a ROM update including Media Player 10.
Moral of the story: Microsoft are secretive. They do what they like with little warning. With enough pressure, this update will come. We have evidence that someone has been paid to make this update. I doubt they'll waste it.
this gives me second thoughts on the universal..or may i say a no no
due to the launch price of the universal.... Im eagerly awaiting the
WM5 upgrade
any updates guys
WM5
From my sources...
All WM5 RTM Device ROMS are now tagged to the Device's IMEI.
Hence, a dumped ROM may not be useful after all
Just my 2 cents.....
I had loads of fun with all the great WM6 version we tried this months. But after nearly a year with my TYTN, would be nice and fair to finally see a downloadable update from HTC site. A Vista updater without hacks. Not mentioning an official update in Italian.
Maybe we will quickly return to our Black or LVSM or whatever version....
Anyways, does anyone knows anything? June means 29th, just like the iPhone. Or it will be out when he will be out?
Share your knowledge.
IMHO the official update will be pants!
The only reason I cant wait for the official update is so that our Chef's can pull it apart and make something really special for us.
The current batch of WM6 roms are very close to perfect, all that is needed to make it 100% for me at the moment is a working voice dial BT solution.
My Tytn is fast and stable right now.
Jules
I just want to be able to easily update with Vista...
ZaJules said:
IMHO the official update will be pants!
The only reason I cant wait for the official update is so that our Chef's can pull it apart and make something really special for us.
The current batch of WM6 roms are very close to perfect, all that is needed to make it 100% for me at the moment is a working voice dial BT solution.
My Tytn is fast and stable right now.
Jules
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I agree totally. And btw, thanks for your BT MSV cab/procedure. Is a real PIA but it DOES work! (and I can't live with BT activation)
From everything I've heard, July is the new June...
hirowla said:
From everything I've heard, July is the new June...
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How right you are -- I've never met a tech company that missed an opportunity to miss a date...
well the ROM is finished and signed off... so i couldnt see why there is a delay... as most of the Operators now have the release ROM from HTC
The HTC announcement was the release of the HTC Touch
www.htctouch.com
From dopod HK, their official website says July.
Don't forget it's June for another 3 and a half weeks.
Don't you guys think HTC's CS is a bit crap. I fail to understand why did they have to start branding their own devices, when their support strategy so far seems to be pushing the customers to switch over to carrier branded devices. Cingular posted ROM upgrade quite a while ago and to get HTC's upgrade you have to send in your device to a repair center. Why wouldn't they post it online like everyone else. I think with the way things are going they won't post wm6 online as well.
This from South Africa's official supplier:
WM6.0 should be available end of July. You will be able to update your TYTN. At moment we have not yet confirmed if it will be a free upgrade or not.
Regards,
HTC Support
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WM6 upgrade will be free!
From the official dutch agency who has the all the rights to distribute HTC in the Netherlands:
"2e helft van 2007; gratis upgrades naar het nieuwe Windows Mobile 6.0 t.b.v.:
- HTC Advantage X7500
- HTC TyTN
- HTC S620
- HTC P4350
- HTC P3300
De exacte data wanneer deze upgrades beschikbaar komen is helaas nog niet bekend. Zodra beschikbaar zijn de upgrades te downloaden via HTC Downloads."
Which means: free WM6 upgrades for the models above.
Official HTC WM6 ROM in the wild
akihabaranews has recieved a hermes with the official WM6 ROM from htc, as a replacement unit!
here is the link for the pics:
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-14251-The+HTC+Hermes+running+WM6,+soon+for+all+!!.html
it is running a radio-rom version 1.47.00.10!!!
so it looks like the release is really really near.
just wanted to let you know
ahfunaki said:
I just want to be able to easily update with Vista...
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To use CustomRUU with Vista, you only need to upgrade to WMDC 6.1. With this you can upgrade like in XP...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/devicecenter.mspx
Regards.
jcespi2005 said:
To use CustomRUU with Vista, you only need to upgrade to WMDC 6.1. With this you can upgrade like in XP...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/devicecenter.mspx
Regards.
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thanks a lot for the tip
I've also noticed that HTC has changed a bit the e-club update section. They are definitely preparing for the update launch (after nearly a year with no official update for HTC branded phones from their official site), such suicidal tendency was too bad to be true even for a tech company.
I never met a person who did not lie (since businesses are 'legally' people in the States). July, eh? I am betting on August or September, especially for AT&T Customers since AT&T will now be focuses on the 3Gless, GPSless, DVD Quality videoless, 5MP less iPhone. I am comparing the Apple iPhone to both the Softbank X01HT (no GPS here) and Nokia N95 which for what you are paying for the iPhone (iClone), you should get something. Maybe, in 3 or 4 generations, the iPhone (iClone) will be what the TyTN and it's variants were in 2006.
Regards
crazyut said:
I never met a person who did not lie (since businesses are 'legally' people in the States). July, eh? I am betting on August or September, especially for AT&T Customers since AT&T will now be focuses on the 3Gless, GPSless, DVD Quality videoless, 5MP less iPhone. I am comparing the Apple iPhone to both the Softbank X01HT (no GPS here) and Nokia N95 which for what you are paying for the iPhone (iClone), you should get something. Maybe, in 3 or 4 generations, the iPhone (iClone) will be what the TyTN and it's variants were in 2006.
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I wouldn't hold my breathe for the update from AT&T seeing they are getting the kaiser why update an old model...
Hi Guys,
Do you know if there will be an update for the Tmobile Mda Compact 3 ?
CUSTEL said:
I wouldn't hold my breathe for the update from AT&T seeing they are getting the kaiser why update an old model...
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I have been talking to AT&T about the kaiser and they dont know what i am talking about. Custel i just want to know how do you know its going to come out for AT&T and when?
thanks
Every spec I look at for the T-Mobile TP2 it says it will have WM6.5 when it drops is that true? I looked at the spec for the other carriers for TP2 and they all say 6.1.
Just need someone who knows these things well to confirm because I read WM6.5 doesn't drop until this fall to around christmas time.
Thanks!
Someone has to know something!
It is WM6.5 Ready...
Most likely you will have to Buy the OS at additional cost.
The good old Orange day's where they did know what service was are over and done since T-Moblie acquired Orange.
But with a HardSPL (hopefully soon) who cares, just flash any ROM you like.
Why do I have to buy the OS if it comes with it?
It will launch (Aug 12th) with 6.1, but once MS releases 6.5 you will be able to upgrade to 6.5. What is unknown is whether T-mo will provide that update or if we are going to have to get the update from HTC. I highly doubt we will have to pay for it either. Kinda like when tmo provided an update to win mo 6.1. it was free.
T-Mobile Netherlands will provide the WM6.5 upgrade for free. It says so in my contract and manual. Too bad T-Mo is always way behind when HTC provides upgrades. On the other hand... i'm not welcoming 6.5 with open arms. I rather have a speedy 6.1 ROM for my Rhodium. 6.5 or HardSPL... i go for the latter.
Alright thanks for clearing that up. But I rather have WM6.5!!!
Question!
WindowsPhone is WM6.5 or WM7? Is their even a 7?
There is no WM7 yet, but there supposed to be one sometime in 2010!
Is their a release date for the official WM6.5? I saw a video on WM 6.5 where the guy said it will be released around Christmas time.
The guy was doing a demo on what looks like the final version of WM6.5 with the HTC Diamond 2 I think it was. Anyone seen that video? (He had his legs crossed through out the whole video with blue jeans.) Lol
I'm at work and I'm restricted to certain sites so youtube is a no no.
Hi,
I thought I read somewhere HTC would release this upgrade for the tp2 today? Does anyone know if this is the case, and where to get it? I could not find anything on HTC's site re WM6.5.
Thanks.
Noone knows a thing. Everyone expects the release to be tomorrow. But since some providers are already releasing it today, who knows?
There isn't any hard evidence to say when it's going to come out.
This is on Microsoft's site, hope it makes things clearer
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx
Wot? No Diamond2 on the list?? Ouch!
Mesquire said:
Wot? No Diamond2 on the list?? Ouch!
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Over the next few months, our partners may release updates to some of their Windows Mobile 6.1 phones. As the updates become available, we’ll add links here that will guide you to the installation instructions on the web site of your mobile operator or manufacturer. If you don’t see your phone in the list below, check back soon—we’ll be updating this page frequently.
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This clarify some things...
I asked htc tech support the 6.5 question. They responded in minutes. That's a response speed I certainly did not expect! Very good, though I'm sure they are fed up answering the same question...
They've advised they are currently dealing with the license packges from microsoft (whatever that means), but no release date was mentioned. Doesn't sound far away though.
Hi,
I have downloaded on HTC Support site an update for my TP2 from Orange.
The file is named RUU_Rhodium_Orange_FR-B2B_1.19.73.5_Radio_Rhodium_3.45.25.14_Signed_Ship.exe dating October 1st 2009....
Can anyone tell me if it's WM 6.5 ? Or just an update of my 1.19.73.3 (51489) WM6.1 ?
Thanks
EDIT : Stupid question after reading at Microsoft that the WM 6.5 availability date is not yet known....
Sorry
The release date for TP2 is Thursday this week.
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The release date for TP2 is Thursday this week.
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Proof please.
Not possible. I know the Sales Representative for WM Norway. He told me. I have known the release dates for a quite long time now.
This is a message on HTC's website:
If you have a phone from Orange or another provider though HTC won't be providing the update (not too sure I have much faith in Orange to provide an update).
http://www.htc.com/europe/press.aspx?id=112024&lang=1033
Availability
The HTC Touch2, Touch Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 with Windows Mobile 6.5 are available through selected operators across Europe now and will be rolling out to other regions in the coming months. The new HTC HD2 will be available soon with selected operators across Europe, before rolling out to other regions.
Notes to Editors
Customers with an original HTC Touch Diamond2 or Touch Pro2 will be able to update their phone via a new ROM which will be available from HTC’s website in the coming weeks at www.htc.com.
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Not possible. I know the Sales Representative for WM Norway. He told me. I have known the release dates for a quite long time now.
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Sales reps know nothing. Seriously.
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Not possible. I know the Sales Representative for WM Norway. He told me. I have known the release dates for a quite long time now.
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lol well find out soon enough if right.
Well answer on Microsoft site has still not changed..
Last updated October 6, 2009
Phone Manufacturer Expected availability*
Dash 3G HTC Date not yet available
Jack Samsung Date not yet available
Epix Samsung Date not yet available
Omnia 2 Samsung Date not yet available
Ozone HTC Date not yet available
Snap HTC Date not yet available
Touch Pro 2 HTC Date not yet available
Traveler 137 Pharos Date not yet available
* Dates provided by our partners and are subject to change. Update availability not guaranteed.
Check this out.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx
I just received it via email.
/\oops the person above me got it too. /\
Did anyone else wake up this morning to a 6.5 update?
No really, I woke this morning and slapped my TP2 to shut off my alarm to be alarmed myself, I had a Windows Update telling me to upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.5. I pretty much crapped myself at that point, it started off and gave my the orange installation screen, than after a minute or two it gave me an installation failed message.
After that I frantically tried running Windows Update but the connection timed out continuously. Just wondering if I am the only to receive this?
If this happens tomorrow I promise pictures, but was this an isolated incident? Or did everyone else get this via Microsoft?
As much as I want 6.5, I'm in no rush, the internet is on fire with "6.5 sucks" stories. I personally just want TouchFlo3D 2.5, that twitter integration is calling my name.
/firstpost
HTC sure plays spoil sport - with expectations.
(i know they never told they will release the update on 6th, but when a date was announced by microsoft the two companies should have worked together to release the updates for every phone in their list. This is so not good for their PR).
I really dont see how microsoft expects to win the mobile phone war. By the time they come out with WinMO 7, they will again be miles behind, if all they could manage was a shoddy job at winmo 6.5 which apparently has nothing great to talk about - except IE - and who uses it anyway!)
I stuck to winmo all these years, as 5 years ago it was a good business phone and it also supported bberry.
This year i finally split and bought a bberry as there was no update for TP2 coming for months. - again, its a function of marketing - keep customers happy. I know there has never been a promise by htc on integrating bberry software on winmo, yet, after a point, people start expecting.
Somehow these giants just dont get it when it comes to customer service and marketing. Microsoft has definitely lost a customer the day i split and bought a second phone which is a pure bberry. The next upgrade, i will skip winmo entirely and look at the offerings from android and webos...
live long and prosper microsoft - if u can!....
T-Mobile Germany released the update today:
http://www.t-mobile.de/shop/handy/0,4855,2963-_16608-0-8949;CNC-4,00.html
Yes, i've found it too. After uownloading and unpacking i got a file named "RUU_Rhodium_S_TMO_DE_1.85.111.1_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.05_Signed_Ship.exe". With 7zip i've seen, the date of the NBH is 17th of September, don't know which version they used.
But i don't want to have this (i guess) buggy and extremly branded system on my device. I'll wait for an unbranded HTC-release or one from O2(DE), these are nearly unchanged too.
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I'll wait for an unbranded HTC-release or one from O2(DE), these are nearly unchanged too.
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is it possible to install òne of these roms on a vario V without any problems?
I have the tp2 for tmobile i would like to know if i can get the official upgrade to 6.5. i know that tmobile doesnt plan on releasing an update anytime soon. so i would like to upgrade maybe to the officail uropean version. if anyone could please provide me a link
thank you
you will need to wait until HTC actually releases their ROM....
spoke to T-Mo USA Tech Support, Thy promise 6.5 upgrade by the end of the year. (I hope)
so much over the excitement of 6.5 being released today
Is there a 6.5 rom from xda that will work with tmobile tp2 with touchflow 3d and the weather icon on the flip clock and not lose my 3g, text, or mms and also not have buggs
Lol I feel like I'm asking for too much
Direct link if possible please......
I think it's only good it takes a while longer. maybe we can have some of the touchflow 3d 2.5 abilities extra when the update comes out. Besides the weather.
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so much over the excitement of 6.5 being released today
Is there a 6.5 rom from xda that will work with tmobile tp2 with touchflow 3d and the weather icon on the flip clock and not lose my 3g, text, or mms and also not have buggs
Lol I feel like I'm asking for too much
Direct link if possible please......
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490
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virain said:
spoke to T-Mo USA Tech Support, Thy promise 6.5 upgrade by the end of the year. (I hope)
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ha...remember Tmobile also said that the TP2 was $279.99...then a couple days later they change their minds to $349.99, And they wouldn't even budge for loyal customerssssssss.
Status on Microsoft Web Site for 6.5 update
This URL clearly identifies the Touch Pro 2 as a phone eligible for the 6.5 update but no date available as of yet:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx#phoneList
Yea that list states the tp2 european version is eligible for an update but the tmobile touch pro 2 gets its own update from tmobile and so will other carriers according to the rep I spoke with from the htc hotline I really think that the european version update will come out 1st on the htc website before anyone else
Tmobile has absolutely no info about where they stand on the winmo 6.5 update. So if anyone on the phone says it will happen they are just taking a guess. Tmobile has allowed updates before with devices like the dash but they have really ignored their winmo customers this time around since they are trying to push forward with android. The last minute price change on the TP2, the lack of training for the device, and overall confusion around the product has really screwed up what would have been a good launch. Now that we have the marketplace this is completely going to change what we can do and it will in time compete with android and apple. Also I have talked to tech support many times and I am an internal employee and I am pretty disgusted with how they are dealing with customers who have bought their most expensive device. On a positive note I am very impressed with XDA developers and hope to see the official release so I can finally get the update this device deserves.
Tmobile has absolutely no info about where they stand on the winmo 6.5 update. So if anyone on the phone says it will happen they are just taking a guess. Tmobile has allowed updates before with devices like the dash but they have really ignored their winmo customers this time around since they are trying to push forward with android. The last minute price change on the TP2, the lack of training for the device, and overall confusion around the product has really screwed up what would have been a good launch. Now that we have the marketplace this is completely going to change what we can do and it will in time compete with android and apple. Also I have talked to tech support many times and I am an internal employee and I am pretty disgusted with how they are dealing with customers who have bought their most expensive device. On a positive note I am very impressed with XDA developers and hope to see the official release so I can finally get the update this device deserves.
the german t-mobile site has the 6.5 update out already. installed it yesterday...
So this update should work on tmobile tp2 usa? And can you provide the link
well i doubt it works in the US and I doubt you would want a german language version hu?
The Update for the german "MDA Vario V" (which is the TP2) is here:
http://www.t-mobile.de/fremdcontent/1,2790,131619,00.html
.... does anyone know if the htc skin in the official 6.5 upgrade will be the same as the sense interface that the HD2 has... with the panoramic kinda view in the pictures tab and all!!?
Well you can change the language but your probably right it probay won't work here