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...that's great!!!

like i said, i dunno when, but i did ask them point blank, is WM5 cgoing to come to the Blue Angel, the lady said yes, but i did ask to be a tester and she took my email down , id love to go work for them

Great
I'm really looking forward to WM2005. Please let us now when you here more about this subject.

i'll let everyone know as soon as i hear more information about it

i'm looking forward for blueangel's WM5
keep us up to date!

seattleboi1982 said:
like i said, i dunno when, but i did ask them point blank, is WM5 cgoing to come to the Blue Angel, the lady said yes, but i did ask to be a tester and she took my email down , id love to go work for them
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and if u do get to be a tester, please share the rom! yay!

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lseattleboi1982 Said:
love having cool connections, i just spoke to the HTC reps that stopped over at my work, and asked if the Blue Angel is going to receive a WM5 upgrade, they told me yes!!! dunno when but the blue angel will get the WM5 upgrade sometime this year, so now i know i need to purchase one, anyone wanna donate a Blue angel
I'm sorry, but would you ask your friend if there's any WM5 for HTC Alphine?Again sorry if I have bad english, hope to hear from you.
Thanks a lot before.... -> English
Terima Kasih Banyak -> Indonesian

Sorry to burst bubbles but dont take teh word on the REP. HTC IS NOT Releasing the Upgrade to the Blueangel.

My guess this is a FOR FEE upgrade
A couple of years ago, HP charged $30.00 to upgrade from PPC 2002 to PPC 2003. I see no reason why the carriers wouldn't try the same thing again.
I'd have to imagine that Microsoft is not going to give a new OS away for free (why should they?). They certainly have never done it before.

HTC has never released any rom to the public. This is not part of thier core business.
Its the carriers that give us roms or not as in the case of t.mobile uk which has yet to release the 1.31 wwe rom.
Facts.
We have proof of a wm5 rom through MS video and trade shows.
We have no statements from any carrier that they will upgrade BA to wm5.
We all want the wm5 and most of us will get when our contracts run out and we buy a new device (which is what carriers want)
Pop sorry
Are only how is grab_it and somebody with a BA that has benn loaded with wm5.

well...carriers to the best of my knowledge make no profit from selling these devices. What they want are subscribers.

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any reason why you use t-mobile if your a cingular employee being that employees get great discounts on service?
sales reps will feed you anything to be interested in their product, simple as that.

Cingular update no!
I spoke to an engineer at siemens and there will be no 5.0 update but there will be a 1.40 update w/ media player 10

A few months ago, I had the Orange SPV C500 smartphone (I dunno what HTC call it, I forgot)
Anyway, Microsoft were adament that no old Smartphones would get a Media Player 10 update, only newer models. Weeks later, Audiovox started releasing their version of the C500 with MP10 as standard.
Orange Assured us there would be no further ROM updates for u at all.
2 weeks after that, out of the blue, Orange released a ROM update including Media Player 10.
Moral of the story: Microsoft are secretive. They do what they like with little warning. With enough pressure, this update will come. We have evidence that someone has been paid to make this update. I doubt they'll waste it.

this gives me second thoughts on the universal..or may i say a no no
due to the launch price of the universal.... Im eagerly awaiting the
WM5 upgrade

any updates guys

WM5
From my sources...
All WM5 RTM Device ROMS are now tagged to the Device's IMEI.
Hence, a dumped ROM may not be useful after all
Just my 2 cents.....

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Theory on next ROM releases

I have a small theory as to when the next ROM updates are going to ship.
Well since the Universal is running the WM 2005 and the SP2 for Exchange already shipped, all we are missing for the push feature is the MSFP (Messaging & Security Feature Pack). SO the OEMs are dying to win corporate users to use the universal or magician, since also the fact that Blackberry might have to stop selling in the US...
Taking all that into account I would expect that iMATE & O2 are going to wait with the release to incorporate the MSFP into the ROM. T-Mobile might also this time join since they are dying to get as much bussiness customers as possible. Here in holland the MDA PRO was available to Businesss customers 2 and a half weeks before they started selling it to consumers. I can verify that because I work as an ICT manager and I was contacted by T-Mobile rep who wanted to come and deliver me the MDA PRO the next day if I agree to take a subscription. I have refused that since we use KPN and UMTS and t-mobile has no UMTS yet. But knowing t-mobile maybe they still are going to let the chance go.
Also this is the reason the QTEK has not released their device at least here in the NL you can not get it yet it is expected in the end of November. the Qtek 9100 (magician) is already in the shops but that device is meant for consumer market. the QTEK 9000 is the business device and I think (maybe I am wrong) it will ship already with the MSFP in it. As I remember reading Microsoft should release the MSFP in the first half of November...
PLease feel free to comment critisize etc. But keep in mind this is just a theory...I might have some facts wrong!
Oh Yea I forgot Orange which is also not yet released at least here in the NL
My theory has just received a blow...
I have just seen two online stores in NL claiming to have the QTEK 9000 in stock. Although on the www.qtek.nl the device is only mentioned that it exist and further no aditional info. And this coming from the site which was the first one to post the 3D anymation of the QTEK 9100.
I have to look into this first thing monday, if they realy have them in stock.
P.S. For those interrested the two stores are:
www.smartphonestunts.nl & www.smartphoneshop.nl
I believe that all operators are waiting for MS to supply the update before they can mess it up a little then distribute it.
And it could also be that MS are holding off the release until the security pack and activesync issues are resolved.
Yea the Operators are real stupid, I mean there is ready device software why stick your own crap in there.
About the MSFP: On the dutch Pocket PC site www.pocketinfo.nl there is an offer to buy the KJAM plus a year sunscription including the push functionality. In small letters they write that for the real push functionality you have to wait for the MSFP to be released untill then the users are more then welcome to sync on schedule.
Anyhow I hope the MSFP is real close since this offer has just appeared now so I guess they know more then we do.
actually i'm thinking that the new ROMs are o their way because MS has done their homework (you cannot release only half of the package) so it's up to the HTC to finish the ROM then up to the carriers to provide it to us.
I'm afraid MS HAS done half the job, again.
MSFP is RTM as of the 4th Nov, according to my contact.
Question is, how long will it take the likes of Orange to incorporate it? Blummin long time I reckon.
F.
Is there anyone with an MSDN license ?? I beleive you could get it there
Nope, it's not on MSDN Sub Downloads.
It's got to be integrated with the providers' software (ROMs) so they only supply it to the providers. With the exception of those who were on the Windows Mobile Beta program, but if you stuck a copy of (I thinkk it's called Crossbow, the next version) on your machine most features wouldn't work I suspect!
We're at the mercy of buttholes like Orange.
F.
Well that sounds really disturbing. what if I want to deploy the feature enterprise wide. I mean I am myself an ICT Manager but our company is too small to pull a muscle but large multinationals are then also at the mercy of the operators or shall I say buttholes?
Aye, it seems that way.
Problem is, I can't get any decent info from MS about it, and Orange say that there's nobody to ask there - even the data guys, who apparently "have access to almost every system in the company", are not told about ROM updates until they're on the website!
We'll have to wait and see. As I say, I believe the MSFP went RTM last week so it might not be tooo long...
For the record, I'm an Exchange consultant and so have a vested interest in this damn push-email thing.
F.
Bad news guys ... i hope that i'm wrong.
From the Microsoft Launch of VS2005 today in Milano seems that the new features will be available only from 2006 , meaning that we can only hope for ROM updates without the security and exchange improvements.ùù
As an additional info ... the italian Jasjar is real, brought by TIM. It has the italian ROM version.
We are all waiting for this ROM for the JASJAR & belive me I am checking the site of imate three times daily!

CINGULAR to provide WM6 UPGRADES for 8525, BJ, Treo 750

We had a chance to peep an "eyes-only" presentation from AT&T with the dirty details on WM6 for current and future devices, with the newly-branded Cingular apparently poised to introduce patches for three of its hottest handsets. The word is that the Treo 750, 8525, and the Blackjack will see downloadable updates released for current owners, and that WM6 will be pre-installed on all devices launched in 2007. In a separate tip, our peeps tell us that the Blackjack update should be in Cingular's hot hands by May 26; with an expected eight week soak period for testing, this could hit by late July this year. We suppose that if the ROMs prove bulletproof, the cheering masses could theoretically get this update sooner, but until then we can only sit and wait. No word on timing for the other two devices, but we are seriously hoping that Blue has its ducks in a row and that they are on an similar schedule.
via Engadget people. http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/03/26/cingulars-treo-750-blackjack-and-8525-get-wm6-treatment/
I don't really care cuz the best roms are from here but still. Apparently all our complaining has not fallen on deaf ears!
Here's the link to Engadget Mobile:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/03/26/cingulars-treo-750-blackjack-and-8525-get-wm6-treatment/
Yes, it seems that a couple of people have posted this news today. I guess it is good for the Cingular/AT&T people who do not want to upgrade to the current WM6 rom's here.
And maybe, someone here could use it as base rom once it is released.
At least they are going to upgrade some current devices.
eagle 1 said:
Yes, it seems that a couple of people have posted this news today. I guess it is good for the Cingular/AT&T people who do not want to upgrade to the current WM6 rom's here.
And maybe, someone here could use it as base rom once it is released.
At least they are going to upgrade some current devices.
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Oops I'm sorry I'll ask the mods to lock.
No need to lock, you provided a different view...
I already have WM6 on my 8525 - Cingular needs to release it for my 3525 No but really this is great - this will at least if nothing else ensure we get an official RTM version that we can tinker with
we all knew it was coming -- but until we actually heard from somebody at Samsung or Cing, I couldn't post about it.. but after getting the roadmap yesterday and speaking to a samsung rep -- I just had to post it up
Good news, since the (fairly quiet) news about the updated base for WM6 cooked roms on here will be getting much much better, theyve been great since the first releases but this will help the chefs a hell of alot more.
xultar said:
I don't really care cuz the best roms are from here but still. Apparently all our complaining has not fallen on deaf ears!
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Don't you know that we've been beta testing the new WM6 ROMs?
Those ROMs were intended to *leaked* for us to test and report errors so they can fix those errors before releasing to the rest of the consumers.
Well, mine runs great so hurry up and release it Cingular. Yes I'm talking to you.
the_passenger said:
Don't you know that we've been beta testing the new WM6 ROMs?
Those ROMs were intended to *leaked* for us to test and report errors so they can fix those errors before releasing to the rest of the consumers.
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ah its always good to be the bastard step children
does anyone happen to have the cingular wm6 rom that they cant share with me ??? if so discreetly pm me... i am looking for something in particular with this rom....
I had all but given up
I had put my Cingular 8125 in the corner of my office, and decided not to use it at all. I started using a Treo 750, and it was great, so I just stuck with it. Then I upgraded my 8125 to WM6 (LVSW Edition), and now it is finally usable. The 8125 would CONSTANTLY lock up on me with the "official" WM5 ROM, but with WM6 it is rock solid. I now wish someone would leak a Treo 750 WM6 ROM.

S620 WM6?

Anyone heard anything more about the WM6 upgrades for the S620 that HTC was supposed to put out in the May/June timeframe? There's not much time left in that "frame" - was hoping to hear something by now. I'd prefer to not have to mess with trying to put the TMo ROM on there.
nop there has been no news at all keep checking this page:
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/software/
It's pretty much July. I'm expecting an update to come out yesterday.
Any other source, other than the website where we could have any more information?
Download link for T-Mobile's WM6 is here:
http://t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
Comes with some fandango, and more t-mobile... (well, you tell me, i don't know how the HTC wm6 compares)
you can use my number:
2 m 0 r 5 a 5 e 2 r 9 y 7 c 9 e 4 o 0 s
Is it locked to T-mobile?
HTC eClub
Anybody joined the HTC eClub?
I think they are gonna distribute the WM6 that way, since I can't register my Dash there I can't confirm. Can someone with a S620 sign up and see if the update is available now?
htc club
Hi i have joined the club, as i have a HTC s620. There have been no updates as of yet. I will be checking the site most days, so as soon as i hear anything i will post here
No updates other than some audio driver. This is really getting annoying.
Does anyone know if the VoIP feature will be included with this HTC release? (I'm talking about internet calling if nobody knows what I'm talking about.)
September!!!!!!
Below is an email I just got from HTC:
The Windows Mobile 6 update will roll out from June. The provisional date for the S620 is believed to be in September. We have no more accurate information than that and as it is a provisional schedule, it is possible that if any last minute problems are encountered in the final testing phase, it may be delayed.
Thank You for your enquiry. Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
Kind regards
Khushal Hirani
HTC Europe Support
[email protected]
http://www.HTC.com
BBAdmin said:
No updates other than some audio driver. This is really getting annoying.
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It's getting worse now... I just called them again to complain, and they said that the june timeframe reffered to 'information on the upgrade to WM6' and not the upgrade itself... They told me that they expect the update now mid-september....
wmeter said:
It's getting worse now... I just called them again to complain, and they said that the june timeframe reffered to 'information on the upgrade to WM6' and not the upgrade itself... They told me that they expect the update now mid-september....
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yeh i know thats why september is in bold in the email above.
Too bad there is no real competition on the market. Otherwise I would switch now. This is pissing the customer in the face.
I really love my S620 it's great hardware but not sure if I can hold out with WM5 too much longer.
S620 upgrade WM6
I called their support line on Tuesday (July 3) and the gentleman on the phone told me to expect the WM6 update around late July. I don't think they know for sure.
If I knew how to clean a rom of all that T-Mobile garbage I'd upgrade to WM6 using the T-Mobile rom.
So, just to amuse myself (and possibly others), I called HTC's hotline again, asking when WM6 comes out for the S620. The gentleman on the phone read me the email that was sent out to the phone support folks about WM6, and it went a little something like this:
"WM6 is a big OS upgrade, and all new HTC devices are using WM6, so basically HTC is tailoring the WM6 upgrades for each of their devices that support the upgrade. The Sprint MDA upgrade for WM6 came out 2 days, however, HTC will be releasing the WM6 upgrade for the S620 at the end of July, but no later than the middle of August."
<sarcasm>
In summary, HTC is aware of our concerns and doesn't contradict themselves.
</sarcasm>
Tell them T-mobile already has released WM6 and since the device is actually made by HTC its absolutely ridiculous that T-mobile can tailor the device quicker than HTC can.
The Cavalier is out this month so I can see alot of people ebaying their S620 and going for the much more powerful S630, probably what HTC are hoping anyway and why they are delaying the update. Furthermore they probably didn't sell as many of the Vox as they would have liked because people realised that the Excalibur/Caviliar form factor is so much nicer.
indiekiduk said:
Tell them T-mobile already has released WM6 and since the device is actually made by HTC its absolutely ridiculous that T-mobile can tailor the device quicker than HTC can.
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Yes but the T-Mobile WM6 ROM is crap.
I have it on my Dash. It is full of bugs and memory leaks. I am waiting to HTC to release the S620 WM6 ROM, then I'm going to buy an S620 and ditch my Dash.
Give them time to get it right and not hastily release a buggy ROM.
This is very disappointing. I hope this is not the case with all the said upgrades.
htc is delaying it for 1 reason because they what people to get fed up and by a new phone with wm6 built in. EXAMPLE: htc x7500 which has wm5 and htc x7501 has wm6. now you can already buy the x7501 at CompUSA for $899 just check if you dont believe me. but wm6 upgrade for x7500 won't be out untill september, makes no sense to me

Quick question about T-Mobile TP2!

Every spec I look at for the T-Mobile TP2 it says it will have WM6.5 when it drops is that true? I looked at the spec for the other carriers for TP2 and they all say 6.1.
Just need someone who knows these things well to confirm because I read WM6.5 doesn't drop until this fall to around christmas time.
Thanks!
Someone has to know something!
It is WM6.5 Ready...
Most likely you will have to Buy the OS at additional cost.
The good old Orange day's where they did know what service was are over and done since T-Moblie acquired Orange.
But with a HardSPL (hopefully soon) who cares, just flash any ROM you like.
Why do I have to buy the OS if it comes with it?
It will launch (Aug 12th) with 6.1, but once MS releases 6.5 you will be able to upgrade to 6.5. What is unknown is whether T-mo will provide that update or if we are going to have to get the update from HTC. I highly doubt we will have to pay for it either. Kinda like when tmo provided an update to win mo 6.1. it was free.
T-Mobile Netherlands will provide the WM6.5 upgrade for free. It says so in my contract and manual. Too bad T-Mo is always way behind when HTC provides upgrades. On the other hand... i'm not welcoming 6.5 with open arms. I rather have a speedy 6.1 ROM for my Rhodium. 6.5 or HardSPL... i go for the latter.
Alright thanks for clearing that up. But I rather have WM6.5!!!
Question!
WindowsPhone is WM6.5 or WM7? Is their even a 7?
There is no WM7 yet, but there supposed to be one sometime in 2010!
Is their a release date for the official WM6.5? I saw a video on WM 6.5 where the guy said it will be released around Christmas time.
The guy was doing a demo on what looks like the final version of WM6.5 with the HTC Diamond 2 I think it was. Anyone seen that video? (He had his legs crossed through out the whole video with blue jeans.) Lol
I'm at work and I'm restricted to certain sites so youtube is a no no.

Windows Mobile 6.5

I have the tp2 for tmobile i would like to know if i can get the official upgrade to 6.5. i know that tmobile doesnt plan on releasing an update anytime soon. so i would like to upgrade maybe to the officail uropean version. if anyone could please provide me a link
thank you
you will need to wait until HTC actually releases their ROM....
spoke to T-Mo USA Tech Support, Thy promise 6.5 upgrade by the end of the year. (I hope)
so much over the excitement of 6.5 being released today
Is there a 6.5 rom from xda that will work with tmobile tp2 with touchflow 3d and the weather icon on the flip clock and not lose my 3g, text, or mms and also not have buggs
Lol I feel like I'm asking for too much
Direct link if possible please......
I think it's only good it takes a while longer. maybe we can have some of the touchflow 3d 2.5 abilities extra when the update comes out. Besides the weather.
ariel123 said:
so much over the excitement of 6.5 being released today
Is there a 6.5 rom from xda that will work with tmobile tp2 with touchflow 3d and the weather icon on the flip clock and not lose my 3g, text, or mms and also not have buggs
Lol I feel like I'm asking for too much
Direct link if possible please......
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490
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virain said:
spoke to T-Mo USA Tech Support, Thy promise 6.5 upgrade by the end of the year. (I hope)
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ha...remember Tmobile also said that the TP2 was $279.99...then a couple days later they change their minds to $349.99, And they wouldn't even budge for loyal customerssssssss.
Status on Microsoft Web Site for 6.5 update
This URL clearly identifies the Touch Pro 2 as a phone eligible for the 6.5 update but no date available as of yet:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx#phoneList
Yea that list states the tp2 european version is eligible for an update but the tmobile touch pro 2 gets its own update from tmobile and so will other carriers according to the rep I spoke with from the htc hotline I really think that the european version update will come out 1st on the htc website before anyone else
Tmobile has absolutely no info about where they stand on the winmo 6.5 update. So if anyone on the phone says it will happen they are just taking a guess. Tmobile has allowed updates before with devices like the dash but they have really ignored their winmo customers this time around since they are trying to push forward with android. The last minute price change on the TP2, the lack of training for the device, and overall confusion around the product has really screwed up what would have been a good launch. Now that we have the marketplace this is completely going to change what we can do and it will in time compete with android and apple. Also I have talked to tech support many times and I am an internal employee and I am pretty disgusted with how they are dealing with customers who have bought their most expensive device. On a positive note I am very impressed with XDA developers and hope to see the official release so I can finally get the update this device deserves.
Tmobile has absolutely no info about where they stand on the winmo 6.5 update. So if anyone on the phone says it will happen they are just taking a guess. Tmobile has allowed updates before with devices like the dash but they have really ignored their winmo customers this time around since they are trying to push forward with android. The last minute price change on the TP2, the lack of training for the device, and overall confusion around the product has really screwed up what would have been a good launch. Now that we have the marketplace this is completely going to change what we can do and it will in time compete with android and apple. Also I have talked to tech support many times and I am an internal employee and I am pretty disgusted with how they are dealing with customers who have bought their most expensive device. On a positive note I am very impressed with XDA developers and hope to see the official release so I can finally get the update this device deserves.
the german t-mobile site has the 6.5 update out already. installed it yesterday...
So this update should work on tmobile tp2 usa? And can you provide the link
well i doubt it works in the US and I doubt you would want a german language version hu?
The Update for the german "MDA Vario V" (which is the TP2) is here:
http://www.t-mobile.de/fremdcontent/1,2790,131619,00.html
.... does anyone know if the htc skin in the official 6.5 upgrade will be the same as the sense interface that the HD2 has... with the panoramic kinda view in the pictures tab and all!!?
Well you can change the language but your probably right it probay won't work here

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