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WM5... Official? or adapted?

Let me understad one thing....
Is The WM5 upgrade for BA an official work from HTC?
Or is an experiment by a very smart hacker? :twisted:
Anybody knows if will be avalaible an official upgrade by O2 t-mobile or others? :?
Thanx, M

Neither. From what I've heard it's a test version from Microsoft. And it will probably never surface as a regular upgrade because it's even more buggy and need more clever fixes and workarounds then even their usual official releases...

Mastiff said:
Neither. From what I've heard it's a test version from Microsoft. And it will probably never surface as a regular upgrade because it's even more buggy and need more clever fixes and workarounds then even their usual official releases...
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...but thanks God, we have Buzz, Mamaich, xda2jojo, toenalied and others

Yes, right! But the thing is that those guys, and we, are enthusiasts. And this is a build that probably wouldn't cut it commercially, since it's not stable enough or easy enough to get stable for Joe Sixpack and his moron friends.

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Yes, right! But the thing is that those guys, and we, are enthusiasts. And this is a build that probably wouldn't cut it commercially, since it's not stable enough or easy enough to get stable for Joe Sixpack and his moron friends.
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Anyway... anybody knows why i should upgrade?
I use the BA for my job... I'd like to have the new WM5 but I don't know if is a good thing to upgrade....
Thanx, M.

If you're dependent on it for your job, and you're not experienced with computers and PPCs, and especially if you can't live with a few annoyances for a while, you should not do it.

I didn't hesitate to install it.
I was a tiny bit worried about turning my phone into an expensive brick, but it was remarkably easy to install WM5 on my BA. Took me about half an hour (most of that being flashing time).
Works fine, all the patches installed so I've got my camera back up and backlight.
Really, sterling work!

buggy???no doubt but all the roms are not perpect...even the PC windows...nevertheless...i love it...

hello guys.
i'm pretty sure it will come out comercial.
sure it's buggy has hell right now, that's why it's a early beta version.
but has you all know, there's microsoft people watching everything, so all the fixes and patches made by our members here at xda-developers are surelly being implemented into the next beta version.
don't think that beta versions are leaked for no reason :wink:

xda2jojo said:
buggy???no doubt but all the roms are not perpect...even the PC windows...nevertheless...i love it...
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To All here discussing this:
I am a big fan of windows based phones/PDAs.In my 10 yrs of cell phone usage time, I have used Nokia(Symbian 60/80/90) SE(UIQ), Mototrola(UIQ) Ipaq 6365 etc etc....But I am noe wandering around HTC Devices, 2/2i/2s/Magician....I hv kept all the three devices and XDA2/BA are with WM 5.AND I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT WM 5 Rocks....With WM 5, battry life has increased,clarity is increased...device has become more stable....All of you might hv come across so many threads of soft resetting the devices...but with WM5 no such problems...no one way sound problems...BT Head sets work flawlessly..and more...data is not lost...

I think there too much problems yet to upgrade... on WM5...
Ciao, M.

Really? I have found it much LESS buggey than any of the WM2003 roms around!
Yes its dose have some issues but it is a Microsoft product after all! If it didnt have any issues I think I would drop dead in shock!
As its for OEMs and mobile networks and going by how well it works (with the legendary Mamaich's patches its very nearly perfect) I'd say that would be very close to how would be if it was officially released...

The bugs have nothing to do with the fact that it is a Micro$oft's product. That's a misconception that's been generated through the rise of Linux and stuff. I use all different types of Software and OSs and not a single one is bugs free. Even Switches and Routers are full of bugs and they're not made my MS.
The fact of the matter is, programmers are only humans and will always make mistakes and learn from it. Thats all programming is about. Making crazy mistakes to mess with the world and then get it fixed later disaster has struck.
WWWeed said:
Really? I have found it much LESS buggey than any of the WM2003 roms around!
Yes its dose have some issues but it is a Microsoft product after all! If it didnt have any issues I think I would drop dead in shock!
As its for OEMs and mobile networks and going by how well it works (with the legendary Mamaich's patches its very nearly perfect) I'd say that would be very close to how would be if it was officially released...
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here's some food for toughts...
The First Windows Mobile 5.0 Device
and this one for the interested
Windows Mobile 5.0 Developer Evaluation Kit
seems pretty oficial to me :wink:

what they meant to say was that there is no official rom for WM5.0 for the BA. yes, WM5.0 has been officially released but mobile OSs are not like PC OSs that you can just grab an installer and plunk it in. due to the tight nature of its integration with the hardware, it is up to your hardware manufacturer to build you a rom that can work with your device.
the unofficial WM5.0 rom means that at least HTC is monkeying with the idea of putting it out there, but it will ultimately be up to the resellers (ie O2 and whatnot) to provide you with an official rom. personally, i hope HTC releases an official rom independent of the resellers.

i am no expert
But I would indeed say that thanks to all on here we will end up with a more stable version of wm5 than will end up being released by the powers that be.
The reason,
Mamaich, buzzlightyear, xdamojo, the lastone and all the others (and yes there are to many to mention, some in just smaller ways but i bet they are a great help to those who do the bulk of the work)
These guys use the devices all day everyday and know the blueangel inside and out (literaly).
Lets be honest, have any previous versions been bug free or anywhere near. Give these guys the stuff to work with and they will get there, but I am sure this is not an overnight process.
We should all take our hats off to them and for those who moan, dont bother upgrading and wait as buzz would say "too infinity and beyond"
For official releases
from all of us who have benefited
CHEERS GUYS :wink:
stay happy
magpie2000k

Official WM6 upgrade for TyTn is confirmed

The official HTC forum in Norway has confirmed that HTC will release an WM6 update for TyTn.
http://smartmobil.no/Article639.phtml
Sorry if this information is outdated

Its also on Qtek's swedish site that theres 5 HTC phones definitly getitng the official upgrade.. http://www.qtek.se/sweden/nyheter/senaste_nytt.aspx
I'm sure it has already been covered someplace else on the forums already mind.

Yea, i think it have been posted earlier today/this week. Says late summer, so im thinking july, august

well, this is great news.
let's hope the official update will have all problems fixed etc.

Cingular announced this a few weeks ago. Actually they confirmed WM6 for the 8525, blackjack AND treo 750. No release dates though, but engadget reported that the Blackjack update is probably going to be released the earliest.

official WM6
Hi
Its true that TyTn gone have an official WM6. But I’m not sure that they can delivery it in June or July because TyTn Europe couldn’t jet delivery a new Swedish MW5 Rom witch been known since months on xda-developers forum it was suppose to delivery in January 07. so I satisfying so long with current WM6 such as Black, LVSW etc.
regards

Yes, and the question is: witch one will be better? Or better suiteable...
I believe that the heroes here (we all are) investigated so much in this stuff that I will make this statement: HTC learn from XDA or you lose!!! Probably they've read all our treads and learnd from it.
Question: What do you think concerning this matter?

I think Cingular/HTC waits for the developers here to solve all the problems then they just copy and release what was done here Saves them time and money developing their own stuff. lol

krisg0 said:
I think Cingular/HTC waits for the developers here to solve all the problems then they just copy and release what was done here Saves them time and money developing their own stuff. lol
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hahaha, lol, man, its cool.
They will read your post and theirs faces will be red.

Its true though... even if an offical release becomes available for my Vario II, I'm not totally sure that I would upgrade giving tha I'm so happy with my LVSW WM6 install

i have the same sentiments... the roms here are almost "made to order" with features that majority of us agree on. I really can't imagine upgrading to an official "operator" or "manufacturer" rom unless there's a big boo boo in the one's i've installed from here (which there have been none I might add).
Cheerios! Leo

hjkl;' why no delete?

krisg0 said:
I think Cingular/HTC waits for the developers here to solve all the problems then they just copy and release what was done here Saves them time and money developing their own stuff. lol
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For sure, this is the development field of WM6.
Where are the going to find such gurus as here?
And for free....

leo-chan said:
i have the same sentiments... the roms here are almost "made to order" with features that majority of us agree on. I really can't imagine upgrading to an official "operator" or "manufacturer" rom unless there's a big boo boo in the one's i've installed from here (which there have been none I might add).
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I presonally prefer official ROMs over these user-made. WM6 roms I've tried do have more or less annoying bugs and unusefull software (xcept maybe for vanillas).
Original roms are (or at least should be) guaranteed to work on phones they have been made for.
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For sure, this is the development field of WM6.
Where are the going to find such gurus as here?
And for free....
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Yes, advanced users here provide very much, but not that many actually developes the OS itself. They just add tweaks
and some freeware programs in it.
Oh and believe me, there are more gurus out there as well. This is just a forum with few experts and I doubt they
do this for a living, more like a hobby.
For free? How many times you have paid for a rom that operator releases?
And WM6 for free? I'd say that's piracy. You do pay for at least to upgrade from Windows XP to Vista?
When you buy a new computer that comes with an OS, you can't assume that you are entitled for a free upgrade
to OS when ever one is released.
I find the best thing this forum has to offer is free problem solving when it comes to bricking your device when
you either don't have a clue what you are doing or then something goes wrong while flashing your phone.
Hats off for the expert for that.

Wiper said:
And WM6 for free? I'd say that's piracy. You do pay for at least to upgrade from Windows XP to Vista?
When you buy a new computer that comes with an OS, you can't assume that you are entitled for a free upgrade to OS when ever one is released.
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I found this comment interesting - and technically, it sounds true , so as not to diverse from the original post, I've started a new thread incase anyone else wonders what the legalities are... I don't know, I'm just wondering myself!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302409

Great news...
I wonder if this is the reason the upgrade that was announced for Q1 still hasn't been released?
Jörg

Wiper said:
You do pay for at least to upgrade from Windows XP to Vista?
When you buy a new computer that comes with an OS, you can't assume that you are entitled for a free upgrade
to OS when ever one is released.
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It is quite different thing for several reasons:
1. You can't go and buy an OS for a PocketPC or smartphone. Moreover, there is no and can't be a market for OSes for such devices: any build is device dependent. Show me that shop, and I'll buy Symbian or Linux for my TyTN!
2. When you buy a motherboard, you expect free BIOS update, especially if the original is buggy. For embedded devices (STB, modem, router, MP3 player etc) you do expect free firmware update, especially if the original one is buggy. No matter that the firmware is based on a Linux or even no OS. Windows Mobile is just a part of the firmware for our devices.
And, because Windows Mobile is always buggy, we do expect free updates!

Yes, you get free updates for BIOS as you do get for your phone. They are called ROM updates, which include fixes for radio, bootloader, OS fixes and stuff, but NOT a new OS.
As I see it, when a new OS has been released, it will be sold as a part of a new phone (OEM). As you can't purchase OEM versions you are stuck with the one you currently own, but you still do get free updates.
I would find it quite strange if you would be supported with brand new OS for no additional cost, since I believe the operators/manufacturers sure has to pay license fees for
new OS's.

Wiper said:
I would find it quite strange if you would be supported with brand new OS for no additional cost, since I believe the operators/manufacturers sure has to pay license fees for
new OS's.
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Don't be so restricted, look wider!
Manufacturers get money from selling their devices. If they won't update the OS on just released models (and TyTN is far from EOL), they loose sales. Then they can give the same ROM to us, old owners, for no cost for them.
Then, they just announced new models on almost the same hardware. They have to use the new OS on them, so they have to make the new ROM for them. But if they won't update our ROMs with the new OS, they'd have to continue supporting two different lines of ROMs, instead of one with small very specific changes. It's additional cost. Or, drop support for recent devices, means loose their face and then sales of new devices.
Believe me, it's not free, and not for no cost from us. We paid enough to let them support us until EOL, and they earn enough from such upgrades.
Just like owners of other devices paid for all the firmware updates, we paid for our updates. The early we purchased the more we paid, BTW. An update with the new OS for recent devices for HTC is cheaper than no updates or updates with old OS. Even if the update would be less stable/useful than WM5 AKU3.5!

Wiper said:
Yes, you get free updates for BIOS as you do get for your phone. They are called ROM updates, which include fixes for radio, bootloader, OS fixes and stuff, but NOT a new OS.
As I see it, when a new OS has been released, it will be sold as a part of a new phone (OEM). As you can't purchase OEM versions you are stuck with the one you currently own, but you still do get free updates.
I would find it quite strange if you would be supported with brand new OS for no additional cost, since I believe the operators/manufacturers sure has to pay license fees for
new OS's.
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If Microsoft provides the upgrade to the OEM for free (which it looks like they are doing for WM6) and the OEM provides the upgrade to current owners for free (which it looks like they will do when they eventually do it), then it is not piracy.
Keep in mind that Microsoft really makes its money on its core products (currently Vista, Office 2007 and Exchange 2007). They REALLY want users (especially enterprise users) to upgrade to those new products. If you have a Windows Mobile device, you need WM6 on those devices to take full advantage of the new features in the core products, so why wouldn't they give it away? It will pay for itself twice or three times over. Besides, as other users have pointed out, WM6 is really just a bug fix maintenance release for WM5.0!
John

Will Mobile 7 be compatible with Hermes?

when it debuts? if so, we'll be getting cooked version here? when is it expected to come along>?

WM6 just came out earlier this year.. its probably too early for anyone to be able to give you a definate answer.

No one can tell the future. Questions like this only fuel speculation and rumours.

im sure by the time WM7 comes out there will be no more Hermes

Honestly I hope they change WM7 so much it isnt compatible. Seriously Windows Mobile needs a huge overhaul. It should look completely different and be so much more functional that it can't even run on old devices. Thats my hope. Plus in the 1-2 years before it comes out most of us probably won't even have our Hermes anymore.

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when it debuts? if so, we'll be getting cooked version here? when is it expected to come along>?
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THIS is useless post wm7 lol

KanosWRX said:
Honestly I hope they change WM7 so much it isnt compatible. Seriously Windows Mobile needs a huge overhaul. It should look completely different and be so much more functional that it can't even run on old devices. Thats my hope. Plus in the 1-2 years before it comes out most of us probably won't even have our Hermes anymore.
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Totally agreed. Most of the time, backwards compatibility only hinders progress and development.

the Hermes is already obsolete

why do you think the hermes is obsolete?
i still have my 8125 and use it every weekend. going on what like almost 3 years old now. most new phones are still using either the 200mhz processors like the elf and tytn II is still using the 400mhz. only real diff. is the rom and ram. obsolete for who someone who needs the newest and greatest maybe.
i like thread that speculate like this why not rumors dont hurt any1 and just a real basic topic and seeing how that the tytn II is running wm6 then it has a good chance of being upgraded to wm7 right i mean were able to get are wizards and hermes to wm6. and since the hermes is the same basic device as the tytn II then i dont see it not being a possibility unless the tytn II is unable to be upgraded or that it requires more ram and rom to run. either way i dont think that wm7 is going to be a giant leap. ms is very slow at major changes and wm6 is basically like a sp2 for wm5 in a way. so i dont think that wm7 will be as much of a leap as most would hope.
but just my opinion on the matter i like these threads.

Lets see. Maybe it will be a WM8 or ......
Everything wich makes my device better is welcome !!!!

JediFonger said:
when it debuts?
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End of 2007? See this older article at Brighthand
rydor

nateshuntsvegas said:
why do you think the hermes is obsolete?
i still have my 8125 and use it every weekend. going on what like almost 3 .
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The new Tytn II is out you know...

jompao said:
The new Tytn II is out you know...
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6th generation Ipods are out, does that make my 4th generation ipod obselete? Nope, works just as well as 5th and 6th gen.

Windows Mobile 7
JediFonger said:
when it debuts? if so, we'll be getting cooked version here? when is it expected to come along>?
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Considering Mobile 6 came out shorlty AFTER Windows 6 (i.e. Vista).
Then it is not too hard to imgagine the same for WM7 coming out after Windows 7 (Formerly Blackcomb or Vienna). It is slated for 2010.
But there may be an intermediate release for WM6, likely not to be named WM7, just updates/tweaks.

hehe maybe service packs? why dont mobiles have that more often... not like everything is peachy of every new device and even old ones... there are so many bugs that everyone on such communities as this one fix, that i do not understand why we dont have more service packs for mobile devices :/ esp when a number of new devices come out and need the OS to be tweaked to utilize there new features or hardware.

Don't see any special difference between the TyTN 1 and 2 except the screen that moves in a special position and a new design...

I'm personally waiting for windows mobile 14...hopefully my 8525 will run it
haha

My first PDA in 2001 had PPC2002 (Compaq Ipaq) now my Jasjam (Hermes) is WM6 with this forums help
I would not get excited about anything from msoft in the future, I cant believe that 3 revisions and 6 years and there is not that much difference.
That is why you need killer apps and xda developers to make the Hermes into an excellent device. Mine is the way I want it now and very happy with it

People I still cant believe that HTC are releasing new models that dont support 3G. There isnt a device out there you would trade a Hermes for yet??
It would be great to see a newer device with enough memory to run itself for a few hours without grinding to a halt. How about a device like the S710 with 3G? It doesnt hurt to dream? Hopefully the right people read these forums?

Windows Mobile Vista is sure to ruin EVERYTHING!!!

Sure u all know but Windows Mobile 6.1 to be released on APRIL 1st

Windows Mobile 6.1 to be released on 1 April
(I Read Bink.nu daily so thats where I got the news from, Bink is truly the most credible MS news man in all of the Land)
Pocket-lint has learnt from sources close to the matter that Microsoft will announce the much-rumoured refresh to its mobile phone operating system, Windows Mobile, on 1 April 2008.
An improvement over Windows Mobile 6 released in February 2007 the new version, unsurprisingly named 6.1, will be a stop-gap measure to keep both consumers and industry happy until the launch of Windows Mobile 7.
Leaked screenshots of 6.1 have already done the rounds in the blogosphere, and show the system has been simplified with the screens displaying less mess than the Vista-inspired version 6.
Source: Bink.nu

1 April.
Hmmmmm.
Not to sound cynical but.........1 April.......

I am an ADMIN and I handle frontpage news at theHotfix.net so I do my research i have my sources and OBVIOUSLY I use other news sources, this seems legit, its NOT offical from MS, but a credible source from within MS says thats the date, I dunno, I posted it on my SITE

Hmm. So what do they know about the hard reset issue that nobody else does? April 1?

April 1st release date. Could be a foolish day!!

nicknowsky said:
Windows Mobile 6.1 to be released on 1 April
(I Read Bink.nu daily so thats where I got the news from, Bink is truly the most credible MS news man in all of the Land)
Pocket-lint has learnt from sources close to the matter that Microsoft will announce the much-rumoured refresh to its mobile phone operating system, Windows Mobile, on 1 April 2008.
An improvement over Windows Mobile 6 released in February 2007 the new version, unsurprisingly named 6.1, will be a stop-gap measure to keep both consumers and industry happy until the launch of Windows Mobile 7.
Leaked screenshots of 6.1 have already done the rounds in the blogosphere, and show the system has been simplified with the screens displaying less mess than the Vista-inspired version 6.
Source: Bink.nu
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Yeap, but it is the Smartphone edition.. doesn't work for us yet...

I read about it two days ago. I think the article was on www.forteplace.com or something like that.

THE Original SOURCE that Bink used as his news source was POCKET LINT
here is the article http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/13612/14636/windows-mobile-61-coming-april.phtml

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April 1st release date. Could be a foolish day!!
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ha ha i didnt think about that, you're quick on draw Spartan

Moto Q9 running it here. I see 6.1's already been integrated into a Hermes rom?

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Moto Q9 running it here. I see 6.1's already been integrated into a Hermes rom?
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Yeah, I'm a bit confused by this "news". I've been running 6.1 for a while now (thanks to this forum), but for a while now if you bought a tytn2 from orange it'd come with 6.1. So in what way was it not already released a while back?

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..... for a while now if you bought a tytn2 from orange it'd come with 6.1.
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thats not true, all the tytn2 6.1 version are from leak roms.....there is no "official" 6.1 release yet,. but then again, if we really cared about official, we wont be here in xda devs would we

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thats not true, all the tytn2 6.1 version are from leak roms.....there is no "official" 6.1 release yet
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It is true, please don't call me a liar just because you haven't seen what I'm talking about. Maybe Orange are shipping leaked ROMs on their phones, or maybe they are a leak themselves. My brother has one, purchased direct from orange as an upgrade over a month ago, that came with 6.1 on it.

WM6.1 > HTC Hermes100/AT&T8525
Considering how bad my HTC/AT&T experience has been, I may bail out before HTC makes WM6.1 available for the AT&T 8525.
It took them nine months to come out with WM6 for my device.

LouMessina said:
Considering how bad my HTC/AT&T experience has been, I may bail out before HTC makes WM6.1 available for the AT&T 8525.
It took them nine months to come out with WM6 for my device.
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I'm a loyal AT&T/Cingular user for years, but im just getting into the PDA section of AT&T so far I like my 8525, but my fav thing is the WiFi, that all I need and use, aside from the occasional phone cal, I just took advantage of a near NEW 8525 for $100 on craigslist last weekend

I don't know why anyone is interested in the official WM6.1. I've had cooked versions of this for months. Same thing happened when WM6.0 was officially released. I tried it out and it was crap compared to the cooked versions.

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I don't know why anyone is interested in the official WM6.1. I've had cooked versions of this for months. Same thing happened when WM6.0 was officially released. I tried it out and it was crap compared to the cooked versions.
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So why not share one that doesn't hard reset every 5 minutes?

Currently using Schaps WM6.1 Beta which doesn't hard reset every 5 mins, and chances are Official release will require a lot of reseting anyhow

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No it hasn't.

Fallen Spartan said:
I don't know why anyone is interested in the official WM6.1. I've had cooked versions of this for months. Same thing happened when WM6.0 was officially released. I tried it out and it was crap compared to the cooked versions.
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Some of us see so many different versions out there and aren't sure which one to use.
I find my official 6.0 adequate, I'm not even sure what I'd look for in a 6.1.
I'd also want it to be completely stable.

Is is true that HD2 is Windows phone 7 upgradable?

Hi I went to internet and saw an news article about HD2 from MS Korea . The spokesman said that HD2 will not be upgradable to WP7 since it has
-Lesser ROm (567mb requirement compared to 512mb)
-more button( 3button requirement and HD2 has 5)
personally 2nd reason is BS and 1st reason is kind of ignorable since you can remove ringtons etc to slim down the rom I guess
They added please don't get misunderstood and fall into victim of scam or something along the line
I am sure that XDA will manage though, 55mb Rom is not that much (But it really depends on how m$ builded WP7. What if core component is 567 mb lol)
If you want to read the article, run google translate. I know how to read korean so... BTW, this is sort of reliable site.
http://www.etnews.co.kr/news/detail.html?id=201003140008
Thanks I guess Touch Diamond 2 don't even stand a chance at all
post script: OMG 567 mb is like almost Windows xp disk iso image size

do one google on that question.
If you dont find your answer searching the around the forum, one google search should make give you a crystal clear answer for that question.
For what I know, HTC wil not support any winp7 ROM upgrade for Leo. But what the developers here wil come up with, you just have to wait and see.

my mistake
my reply probably did not adress your question.

oh no... it's neverending....
Alright guys.....
Latest news first:
HD2 will run WP7 just download the beta ROM from HTC China!!!

First, the politics of Microsoft always sux, cos, they dont care about costumers, what is leading them on front, is MONEY EARNING and DRAINING them from our POCKETS, so, they will find a way how to say that their OS wont run on HD2, cos they expect from us to get new phones, and fill their pockets again.

HTC HD2 running WP7...2 Answers.
Offical from MS or OEM: NO
3rd party hacker: Maybe but, it would be the only way
If your buying a HD2 thinking you will get WP7 on it....think again.

Wm7 is coming to the leo
DavidinCT said:
HTC HD2 running WP7...2 Answers.
Offical from MS or OEM: NO
3rd party hacker: Maybe but, it would be the only way
If your buying a HD2 thinking you will get WP7 on it....think again.
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And I got this from the HTC officially:
This was my question's:
I have a 1.66 wwe rom on my hd2. But when are the update to this coming? As manny of the applications in that rom are out dated, ex. the Opera 10 is out, Facebook is updated, pluss many other. And the 578 mb ram everybody knows it has, when will that radio be baked inn? And finaly, everybody knows wm7 will come to the hd2, when?
Anoying lazy info on the forums everywhere is confusing me!
And bellow is the answers;
Christian
(Nordics Support
(Tech)) Close Pending Dear Magne, Yes this is correct. Kind regards HTC Technical Support Team. 2010/03/23 08:19:03
Magne Petkovic Reply So this means that the 576 mb pluss everything else will be available at the time of the wm7 relase and that there will be no updates to wm6.5 after this? 2010/03/22 17:43:27
Magne Petkovic Reply So this means that the 576 mb pluss everything else will be available at the time of the wm7 relase and that there will be no updates to wm6.5 after this? 2010/03/22 17:42:04
Magne Petkovic Reply So this means that the 576 mb pluss everything else will be available at the time of the wm7 relase and that there will be no updates to wm6.5 after this? 2010/03/22 17:42:04
Christian
(Nordics Support
(Tech)) Close Pending Hi Magne, Thank you for your email. The new upgrade will be coming when windows 7 is released. Unfortunately we have not been given a release date for HTC yet. We should not be waiting too long though. When it does get released it will be available to download from our website. Kind regards HTC Technical Support Team. 2010/03/22 10:21:01
Christian
(Nordics Support
(Tech)) Close Pending Hi Magne, Thank you for your email. The new upgrade will be coming when windows 7 is released. Unfortunately we have not been given a release date for HTC yet. We should not be waiting too long though. When it does get released it will be available to download from our website. Kind regards HTC Technical Support Team. 2010/03/22 10:20:56
We should not be waiting too long though.
HOW LONG IS THAT?

The HD2 ROM/RAM question.
sqmemory13 said:
Hi I went to internet and saw an news article about HD2 from MS Korea . The spokesman said that HD2 will not be upgradable to WP7 since it has
-Lesser ROm (567mb requirement compared to 512mb)
-more button( 3button requirement and HD2 has 5)
personally 2nd reason is BS and 1st reason is kind of ignorable since you can remove ringtons etc to slim down the rom I guess
They added please don't get misunderstood and fall into victim of scam or something along the line
I am sure that XDA will manage though, 55mb Rom is not that much (But it really depends on how m$ builded WP7. What if core component is 567 mb lol)
If you want to read the article, run google translate. I know how to read korean so... BTW, this is sort of reliable site.
http://www.etnews.co.kr/news/detail.html?id=201003140008
Thanks I guess Touch Diamond 2 don't even stand a chance at all
post script: OMG 567 mb is like almost Windows xp disk iso image size
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The HD2 actually has 576 mb ram and 512 rom. And I have it directly from HTC that the wm7 is coming to the leo.

Yeah yeah politics from MS says if the device dont have that hardware snesor buttons required to WP7S it will not have WP7S... but HTC new device HTC EVO have the buttons check T3.com

+ Que PPC said:
Yeah yeah politics from MS says if the device dont have that hardware snesor buttons required to WP7S it will not have WP7S... but HTC new device HTC EVO have the buttons check T3.com
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Just like they said that the Blue Angel would not get past WM 2003SE
... Oh Lord, if I had a penny....
BTW, what's up Que!? Haven't talked to you in a while now...

Is It a WWE ROM or a China special ???
RAMMANN said:
oh no... it's neverending....
Alright guys.....
Latest news first:
HD2 will run WP7 just download the beta ROM from HTC China!!!
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RAMMANN,
Where did you find the beta ROM on the Chinese HTC site?
I searched for it running translation, and found no such animal for the HTC HD2 T8585 or T9193.
Can you give the link, or is the ROM chinese based only...............

If happens this is the place where we´ll know first

RAMMANN said:
oh no... it's neverending....
Alright guys.....
Latest news first:
HD2 will run WP7 just download the beta ROM from HTC China!!!
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really?Why don't I know about it?

I don't think a Rom exists as no one is supporting it yet.

I contacted HTC Uk askking if there will be an official ROM to download to put on our beloved HD2. The responce was short and sweet and I will quote.......
"Unfortunately there is no plan from Microsoft to update WM version 6.5 to version 7."