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HTC Hermes Official Upgrade to 6.0?

I'm on T-Mo in the US (who doesn't have the hermes/tytn) and I use an unlocked/unbranded hermes/tytn. Does anyone know if htc will release an official upgrade without having to go through a carrier?

I'm sure they will, seems as though pretty much everyone that can upgrade, will be.

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This has already been announced by HTC.
However, I have it on good authority that there won't be any competing with the US carriers, that is to say, the carriers will be given the opportunity to release their ROMS on the carrier branded devices first, then HTC will release theirs.
It would actually be faster to release them from HTC first, but they don't want to anger their alliance partners.

silverfox0214 said:
This has already been announced by HTC.
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Has HTC really announced this? Is there a link for it? Do you know the date when they're proposing to do this? I also have the Dash and upgraded it over the weekend. I actually don't see that many great improvements on it and the ones that are require that your Exchange Server be 2007, which my company is not moving to any time soon. We're still on 2003 sp2 and until they see a need for the change, they're likely to wait. However, there are some things that are definitely worth it.
I tried searching on HTC's website, but no luck.
Ok, sorry, i just found it using google. I saw it on engadget.

silverfox0214 said:
This has already been announced by HTC.
However, I have it on good authority that there won't be any competing with the US carriers, that is to say, the carriers will be given the opportunity to release their ROMS on the carrier branded devices first, then HTC will release theirs.
It would actually be faster to release them from HTC first, but they don't want to anger their alliance partners.
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I talked with a tech support guy at AT&T and asked about the WM6 upgrade and he said they will direct people to the manufactures website to download the upgrade.

WM6 from HTC at last?

Well I do realize that we have been dissapointed by HTC Europe in the past, but here is an email just in from them.
Good Afternoon B****,
"Thank you for contacting HTC Europe regarding Windows Mobile 6. Sorry for the delayed response.
As we pointed out earlier the WM6 will be available in Europe during the next few weeks and as it looks it will then be available for download from out HTC Europe website."
"For further information on our Windows Mobile 6 update strategy, including which devices will receive the update, please see the following link.
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/press/WM6_statement_v6.pdf
Once released, they should be availble for download from the support section of the htc website. "
"We are aware of the problems with the memory card and as you say, this has been solved in Windows Mobile 6, which is one of the reasons we decided to release widows Mobile 6 for the TyTN device."
Should they not come up with the goodies, I am sure Leaf Wireless will.
The vibe in SA is a release date during July 2007

Sounds good.... not sure the rom will be as good at the chefs here....

djstegges said:
Sounds good.... not sure the rom will be as good at the chefs here....
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At least that will give them a nice clean base ROM to start cooking from.
The playing fields will be levelled for all the cooks to have a field day.

ain't that the truth.....

basilrsa said:
"We are aware of the problems with the memory card and as you say, this has been solved in Windows Mobile 6, which is one of the reasons we decided to release widows Mobile 6 for the TyTN device."
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They didn't really say "widows" did they? That's funny.
I also noticed that HTC has quietly changed their geographic regions as well. It used to be "Europe and South Africa", now it is "Europe" and "Middle East & Africa". You're supposed to be getting your support from Dubai (or somewhere thereabouts) now!
John

Any hearings from HTC?

June is ending, oryginal relase from HTC should be released very soon...

i was wondering the same thing....

I've been wondering the same. I used to fiddle about with roms when I had the magican and big storage was the thing.
These days I just don't have time to play and just need a rom that I can get up and running without fiddling. My phone is in urgent need reformatting and I was hoping to wait for the WM6 rom, but no sign of anything on the HTC site so far though

Just called them
Because I have a bricked dutc p3300,
The guy told me they are finilaising A WM6 upgrade, but there is no release date yet,
I am going to send mine to the repair center in belgium
http://www.eurotwice.be/

Mine was also bricked
i called belgium they came to pick-up at my work and
brought it back at work in holland and it was fixed for free
Big thanx to QTEK/HTC belgium

Someone on the Dutch GoT forum received this answer from HTC Europe:
Thank you for contacting HTC Europe regarding Windows Mobile 6.
For further information on our Windows Mobile 6 update strategy, including which devices will receive the update, please see the following link:
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/press/WM6_statement_v6.pdf
Once released, they should be available for download from the support section of the HTC website
We are expecting it between 7-8 weeks.
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That's still a long time to wait

The question is, WHEN he recieved this Mail...

The header in the message from HTC says April.
Also the ending of june is mentioned in their mail for the rollout of the software...
So maybe next week or so?

I'm glad to know I am not the only one checking the support section on HTC every time I go on the web. I though for sure the update would be out by now. I wonder how many languages they will release? I assume they will need to support every language they sell the phone in.

Hi, I'v called O2 Customer Care (or something like that - service guys anyway) yesterday asking for WM6 and they told me, that their engineers are testing it right now. They are recieving new information and updates every tuesday (?) and processing them (?), whatever it means. Anyway the guy hold my call and spoke with someone...after a while he told me, that WM6 will be released very soon (next tuesday ?) for XDA Orbit. He could not specify, where the update might be avaiable (web site, O2 stores etc.). Anyway what I'm trying to say is, that probably HTC launched WM6 for HTC 3300, they sent it to all network providers and "their enginners" are probably attaching right now some cain of "provider software" to it (like O2 today plugins, settings etc.)....and they are testing it. Proof ? - O2 German WM6 ROM, launched by German O2. And England ? Too long guys, way too long....
And by the way, just noticed. itschase I see, that you're from Germany. There is Windows Mobile 6.0 waiting for you at http://www.o2online.de/nw/support/downloads/software/xda/xdaorbit/index.html . Official German O2 WM6 Update for your XDA Orbit. Enjoy man ! .

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And by the way, just noticed. itschase I see, that you're from Germany. There is Windows Mobile 6.0 waiting for you at http://www.o2online.de/nw/support/downloads/software/xda/xdaorbit/index.html . Official German O2 WM6 Update for your XDA Orbit. Enjoy man ! .[/QUOTE]
Yes, thank you. I am from Germany, and live here now, but haven't all my life, so English is my language. Hence my presence on this board. Changing language was all I was ever after - because my German is slow and inefficient.

And there might be another reason: I' a native-german-speaker, but I don*t want to brick my phone.
I wait for official release of HZC in german.
For me, the phone is a tool to use, not a hobby

S620 WM6?

Anyone heard anything more about the WM6 upgrades for the S620 that HTC was supposed to put out in the May/June timeframe? There's not much time left in that "frame" - was hoping to hear something by now. I'd prefer to not have to mess with trying to put the TMo ROM on there.

nop there has been no news at all keep checking this page:
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/software/

It's pretty much July. I'm expecting an update to come out yesterday.

Any other source, other than the website where we could have any more information?

Download link for T-Mobile's WM6 is here:
http://t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
Comes with some fandango, and more t-mobile... (well, you tell me, i don't know how the HTC wm6 compares)
you can use my number:
2 m 0 r 5 a 5 e 2 r 9 y 7 c 9 e 4 o 0 s

Is it locked to T-mobile?

HTC eClub
Anybody joined the HTC eClub?
I think they are gonna distribute the WM6 that way, since I can't register my Dash there I can't confirm. Can someone with a S620 sign up and see if the update is available now?

htc club
Hi i have joined the club, as i have a HTC s620. There have been no updates as of yet. I will be checking the site most days, so as soon as i hear anything i will post here

No updates other than some audio driver. This is really getting annoying.

Does anyone know if the VoIP feature will be included with this HTC release? (I'm talking about internet calling if nobody knows what I'm talking about.)

September!!!!!!
Below is an email I just got from HTC:
The Windows Mobile 6 update will roll out from June. The provisional date for the S620 is believed to be in September. We have no more accurate information than that and as it is a provisional schedule, it is possible that if any last minute problems are encountered in the final testing phase, it may be delayed.
Thank You for your enquiry. Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
Kind regards
Khushal Hirani
HTC Europe Support
[email protected]
http://www.HTC.com

BBAdmin said:
No updates other than some audio driver. This is really getting annoying.
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It's getting worse now... I just called them again to complain, and they said that the june timeframe reffered to 'information on the upgrade to WM6' and not the upgrade itself... They told me that they expect the update now mid-september....

wmeter said:
It's getting worse now... I just called them again to complain, and they said that the june timeframe reffered to 'information on the upgrade to WM6' and not the upgrade itself... They told me that they expect the update now mid-september....
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yeh i know thats why september is in bold in the email above.

Too bad there is no real competition on the market. Otherwise I would switch now. This is pissing the customer in the face.
I really love my S620 it's great hardware but not sure if I can hold out with WM5 too much longer.

S620 upgrade WM6
I called their support line on Tuesday (July 3) and the gentleman on the phone told me to expect the WM6 update around late July. I don't think they know for sure.
If I knew how to clean a rom of all that T-Mobile garbage I'd upgrade to WM6 using the T-Mobile rom.

So, just to amuse myself (and possibly others), I called HTC's hotline again, asking when WM6 comes out for the S620. The gentleman on the phone read me the email that was sent out to the phone support folks about WM6, and it went a little something like this:
"WM6 is a big OS upgrade, and all new HTC devices are using WM6, so basically HTC is tailoring the WM6 upgrades for each of their devices that support the upgrade. The Sprint MDA upgrade for WM6 came out 2 days, however, HTC will be releasing the WM6 upgrade for the S620 at the end of July, but no later than the middle of August."
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In summary, HTC is aware of our concerns and doesn't contradict themselves.
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Tell them T-mobile already has released WM6 and since the device is actually made by HTC its absolutely ridiculous that T-mobile can tailor the device quicker than HTC can.
The Cavalier is out this month so I can see alot of people ebaying their S620 and going for the much more powerful S630, probably what HTC are hoping anyway and why they are delaying the update. Furthermore they probably didn't sell as many of the Vox as they would have liked because people realised that the Excalibur/Caviliar form factor is so much nicer.

indiekiduk said:
Tell them T-mobile already has released WM6 and since the device is actually made by HTC its absolutely ridiculous that T-mobile can tailor the device quicker than HTC can.
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Yes but the T-Mobile WM6 ROM is crap.
I have it on my Dash. It is full of bugs and memory leaks. I am waiting to HTC to release the S620 WM6 ROM, then I'm going to buy an S620 and ditch my Dash.
Give them time to get it right and not hastily release a buggy ROM.

This is very disappointing. I hope this is not the case with all the said upgrades.

htc is delaying it for 1 reason because they what people to get fed up and by a new phone with wm6 built in. EXAMPLE: htc x7500 which has wm5 and htc x7501 has wm6. now you can already buy the x7501 at CompUSA for $899 just check if you dont believe me. but wm6 upgrade for x7500 won't be out untill september, makes no sense to me

WM6.5 official upgrade

Hi,
I thought I read somewhere HTC would release this upgrade for the tp2 today? Does anyone know if this is the case, and where to get it? I could not find anything on HTC's site re WM6.5.
Thanks.

Noone knows a thing. Everyone expects the release to be tomorrow. But since some providers are already releasing it today, who knows?
There isn't any hard evidence to say when it's going to come out.

This is on Microsoft's site, hope it makes things clearer
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx

Wot? No Diamond2 on the list?? Ouch!

Mesquire said:
Wot? No Diamond2 on the list?? Ouch!
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Over the next few months, our partners may release updates to some of their Windows Mobile 6.1 phones. As the updates become available, we’ll add links here that will guide you to the installation instructions on the web site of your mobile operator or manufacturer. If you don’t see your phone in the list below, check back soon—we’ll be updating this page frequently.
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This clarify some things...

I asked htc tech support the 6.5 question. They responded in minutes. That's a response speed I certainly did not expect! Very good, though I'm sure they are fed up answering the same question...
They've advised they are currently dealing with the license packges from microsoft (whatever that means), but no release date was mentioned. Doesn't sound far away though.

Hi,
I have downloaded on HTC Support site an update for my TP2 from Orange.
The file is named RUU_Rhodium_Orange_FR-B2B_1.19.73.5_Radio_Rhodium_3.45.25.14_Signed_Ship.exe dating October 1st 2009....
Can anyone tell me if it's WM 6.5 ? Or just an update of my 1.19.73.3 (51489) WM6.1 ?
Thanks
EDIT : Stupid question after reading at Microsoft that the WM 6.5 availability date is not yet known....
Sorry

The release date for TP2 is Thursday this week.

nukleuzN said:
The release date for TP2 is Thursday this week.
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Proof please.

Not possible. I know the Sales Representative for WM Norway. He told me. I have known the release dates for a quite long time now.

This is a message on HTC's website:
If you have a phone from Orange or another provider though HTC won't be providing the update (not too sure I have much faith in Orange to provide an update).
http://www.htc.com/europe/press.aspx?id=112024&lang=1033
Availability
The HTC Touch2, Touch Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 with Windows Mobile 6.5 are available through selected operators across Europe now and will be rolling out to other regions in the coming months. The new HTC HD2 will be available soon with selected operators across Europe, before rolling out to other regions.
Notes to Editors
Customers with an original HTC Touch Diamond2 or Touch Pro2 will be able to update their phone via a new ROM which will be available from HTC’s website in the coming weeks at www.htc.com.

nukleuzN said:
Not possible. I know the Sales Representative for WM Norway. He told me. I have known the release dates for a quite long time now.
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Sales reps know nothing. Seriously.

nukleuzN said:
Not possible. I know the Sales Representative for WM Norway. He told me. I have known the release dates for a quite long time now.
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lol well find out soon enough if right.

Well answer on Microsoft site has still not changed..
Last updated October 6, 2009
Phone Manufacturer Expected availability*
Dash 3G HTC Date not yet available
Jack Samsung Date not yet available
Epix Samsung Date not yet available
Omnia 2 Samsung Date not yet available
Ozone HTC Date not yet available
Snap HTC Date not yet available
Touch Pro 2 HTC Date not yet available
Traveler 137 Pharos Date not yet available
* Dates provided by our partners and are subject to change. Update availability not guaranteed.

Check this out.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx
I just received it via email.
/\oops the person above me got it too. /\

Did anyone else wake up this morning to a 6.5 update?
No really, I woke this morning and slapped my TP2 to shut off my alarm to be alarmed myself, I had a Windows Update telling me to upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.5. I pretty much crapped myself at that point, it started off and gave my the orange installation screen, than after a minute or two it gave me an installation failed message.
After that I frantically tried running Windows Update but the connection timed out continuously. Just wondering if I am the only to receive this?
If this happens tomorrow I promise pictures, but was this an isolated incident? Or did everyone else get this via Microsoft?
As much as I want 6.5, I'm in no rush, the internet is on fire with "6.5 sucks" stories. I personally just want TouchFlo3D 2.5, that twitter integration is calling my name.
/firstpost

HTC sure plays spoil sport - with expectations.
(i know they never told they will release the update on 6th, but when a date was announced by microsoft the two companies should have worked together to release the updates for every phone in their list. This is so not good for their PR).
I really dont see how microsoft expects to win the mobile phone war. By the time they come out with WinMO 7, they will again be miles behind, if all they could manage was a shoddy job at winmo 6.5 which apparently has nothing great to talk about - except IE - and who uses it anyway!)
I stuck to winmo all these years, as 5 years ago it was a good business phone and it also supported bberry.
This year i finally split and bought a bberry as there was no update for TP2 coming for months. - again, its a function of marketing - keep customers happy. I know there has never been a promise by htc on integrating bberry software on winmo, yet, after a point, people start expecting.
Somehow these giants just dont get it when it comes to customer service and marketing. Microsoft has definitely lost a customer the day i split and bought a second phone which is a pure bberry. The next upgrade, i will skip winmo entirely and look at the offerings from android and webos...
live long and prosper microsoft - if u can!....

T-Mobile Germany released the update today:
http://www.t-mobile.de/shop/handy/0,4855,2963-_16608-0-8949;CNC-4,00.html

Yes, i've found it too. After uownloading and unpacking i got a file named "RUU_Rhodium_S_TMO_DE_1.85.111.1_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.05_Signed_Ship.exe". With 7zip i've seen, the date of the NBH is 17th of September, don't know which version they used.
But i don't want to have this (i guess) buggy and extremly branded system on my device. I'll wait for an unbranded HTC-release or one from O2(DE), these are nearly unchanged too.

mcfish said:
I'll wait for an unbranded HTC-release or one from O2(DE), these are nearly unchanged too.
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is it possible to install òne of these roms on a vario V without any problems?