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Hi all, I am all confused about which Windows Mobile 5 ROM version to load to my Blueangle. I read forums about these different ROMs but I got more confused. Which ROM do you reccomend?

Helmi_C AKU3.2 v1.3 beta is currently the best one out in general.

Can you tell me more about this ROM's performance? What do you think when you compare it with wm2003se? Do you think it is worth to upgrade to wm5 from wm2003se? Thanks.

I really dislike alot of the early WM5 roms because I thought they were unbearably slow so I kept with 2003SE until about a month ago.
Then an AKU2.3 ROM was released which I tested and it was muc quicker than the previous offerings. I'd be willing to say Helmi's AKU3.2 ROM is just as quick as 2003SE is, and its prettier :lol:
It's definately worth considering about upgrading now.

Thanks my friend. I'll give it a try. Are there any features (features of wm2003se and my pda2k) that I won't be able to use when I upgrade to helmi's wm5?

Hi there,
I would like tyo download WM5 BA ROM, but I'm affraid, there is no posibility to download any ROM from ftp server.
Threre are some problems with connection. Speed is very low.
Dowloading stopped after 10 MB...
Please tell me, how can I download ROM....
Thx,
MCS1

My experience with WM5 was not so good. It's so much slower than 2003SE! I recently downgraded and it's like night and day! 2003SE feels about 100 times faster than WM5 - especially all phone functions! It takes several seconds until a WM5 BA starts ringing, picking up takes eternally, so does hanging up, etc. Everything you do during normal use is much slower as well. It was really annoying using my BA with WM5, and now, back on 2003SE it's fantastic again.
If you don't desperately need any of the new functions of WM5 (like stereo bluetooth headsets and push email), I strongly recommend sticking with 2003SE!
Regards,
Martin

Hi, I just recently converted and I am loving it all the way. Go with Helmi's AKU3.2 ROM as it has given me very little problems, other that the need to just make sure that I read and understand the guide first.
I did find the phones operating speed somewhat slow, but then that is to be expected from a installation that was not meant for the phone. Same thing happens when you upgrade a PC witha new OS and it goes a bit slower. But what you can do is to help it a bit and what I did was to spend around £14 on XCPUScalar and overclocked the internal chip from the standard 400mhz to 530mhz. It is so easy to do, all you do is to install the application and then slide the slider to the required speed. It does mean that my phone battery does go quicker, and I have been trying out different scenarios and whereas during normal use, ie 45 minutes of mp3 listening in the morning and then again in ther evening while on journey to work, and around 10-20 calls a day, the battery used was around 75-85, now it completely drains my battery unless I use my spare.
The best thing to do is to invest in a USB data cable which charges the phone at the same time and even if you have a laptop, you can still charge the phone during the time that it is in the cradle.
The XCPUScalar does have a dynamic speed changing capapbility which basicaly changes the speed depending on CPU percentage used, but I found it slightly sluggish to kick in and just so much easier to stick it onto the 530mhz and just take my spare battery with me.
Now that I have it at 530mhz it works even better that I had hoped, all the functions and compatibility and even works faster that my previous 2003se.
Be careful thought that the process of upgrade may take a few times to get right, so make sure that you have either the whole day to spend on the upgrade or you have a spare phone to hand.
Extra tip, and very important, dont use a external USB hub to plug your phone as when you come to upgrade it gets stuck on the OS Upgrade screen and like me you will have a heart-attack until you figure out what the problem is...
Hope that helps.

Thanks for all answers. I upgraded to Helmi's AKU 3.2 and happy with it. I agree that phone feature gets slower but I can live with that. Other features are working normally and are not slower than 2003se. Maybe using XCPUScalar speeds up the machine but are you sure that using this porgramm will not harm the cpu? If yes, I can also try it.

afaik intel's xscalar cpu's were designed to run @ higher speeds and designed to be scaled up and down to save battery, but microsoft in thier infinate wisdom decided they couldnt be arsed.
So long as you dont enable the 'show frequencies above 500mhz' then afaik your phone is in no danger, however i would recommend enabling that and setting max speed @ 530 (but scaling) as sometimes thos extra 50mhz really help. meyself and a lot of other people have had no problems with it at this speed (i know black6spdz runs one of his @ 590mhz, and thats not dead yet :wink

hmmm, so I will try it

I find an IME switch problem： After I install CE-star 2.8 r1, it will installed two IME, one is chinese "chaji", the other is "chinese hand writing".
there have problems when I switching in those IME. it takes no effect. this problem appears int CE-star 2.8 r2 also

O2 Orbit or Orange SPV M700??

My mate just got the orbit and i really love the look and feel of it! Was planning all along to get the M700 too!
Can anyone tell me how the two compare - i know the tech differences but how about looks, feel, speed etc etc..
Thanks!

chickyd said:
My mate just got the orbit and i really love the look and feel of it! Was planning all along to get the M700 too!
Can anyone tell me how the two compare - i know the tech differences but how about looks, feel, speed etc etc..
Thanks!
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you should go into O2 & Orange shops and compare.
The M700 has a 400 Mhz cpu, but the OMAP in the Orbit is more efficient. Overclocked to around 260Mhz (at your own risk) it runs at about the same visible speed as the samsung.
The x and y dimensions of the M700 are only a smidgen larger, but it is 2mm thicker and 15% heavier then the O2 orbit. The battery also does not last as long.
If you want a smaller device and/or GPS you need the orbit. If 3G is critical to you, you need the M700.
The final thing to note is that Orange lock their PDAs, O2 do not.
rgds
c.

Thanks for that!
I'm now thinking about the orbit. If only i could go and check out the m700 but no shops are stocking them yet - no word on release date either!
Currently have wizard and find the omap processor on it rather sluggish when not overclocked so think i'lll need to do this to the orbit.
Can you tell me how to set the clock constantly overclocked? (at my own risk aside) is this safe? prob go for aroound 240 to be safe - this is what i do to my wizard and it makes alot of difference!

chickyd said:
Thanks for that!
I'm now thinking about the orbit. If only i could go and check out the m700 but no shops are stocking them yet - no word on release date either!
Currently have wizard and find the omap processor on it rather sluggish when not overclocked so think i'lll need to do this to the orbit.
Can you tell me how to set the clock constantly overclocked? (at my own risk aside) is this safe? prob go for aroound 240 to be safe - this is what i do to my wizard and it makes alot of difference!
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I had a wizard before and I think the orbit is slightly faster. It might be because WM5 on the orbit is a couple of service packs more advanced then the wizard, or that the implementation of the omap has improved abit. But its basically the same cpu, and if you found it sluggish before, you are likely to again.
I'd try in the shop before you buy, as its all personal preference.
There are many utils to overclock, I use omapclock. After a reboot you need to run it again. There is also omapclockplus which attempts to keep the overclocker running on reboot.
The best utility is the commercial one called xcpuscaler:
http://www.immiersoft.com/
Not only does this give you the most control, but you can set autoscaling for cpu load. e.g. if the cpu is less then 50% full you can set normal-or under clock, which saves battery.
there is an overclocking thread in this forum, have a read.
rgds

stupid me, forgot to mention the overclocker I actually use now (batterystatus):
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm#Download
rgds

colonel said:
stupid me, forgot to mention the overclocker I actually use now (batterystatus):
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm#Download
rgds
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Thanks for that!
Will give it a bash when it arrives tomorrow!!
Also got the 2gb sd card on order.. going to format it with FAT32 and keep my fingers crossed i don't end up having to post in that 'other' thread!

Having looked at that link i'll prob just go with omap overclock - don't think i need the other functions of the software!

Is the HTC Desire Right For Me?

Hey everyone, brought an iPhone 3G about 6 months ago off ebay thinking it was an amazing phone and in some respects it is, but the horrible internal specs have got to me and now reaching the end of my contract I am looking at the HTC Desire.
I have read that battery life can be bad but I am use to that with my 3G, not even a full charge can last me a full day where I am no where near a point i can charge my phone and when I am round friends I charge it overnight, so am use to the bad battery life, but is it better or worse than the 3G's
My biggest concern is also slow down, on paper the Desire should not face much slow down due to the high processor speed and high amounts of RAM but has anybody faced slow downs with the device and if so when and where e.g running 2,000 apps simultaneously or having the device on for days on end.
This last question may not be answerable but I'll give it a go. Mobile devices have lasted about 12 months maximum, due to my current financial problems I am looking at the T-Mobile £15 P/M contract which suits me perfectly but am not sure whether to go 18 or 24 month, is there anybody like me that cannot hold onto 1 phone longer than 12 months and how do you feel with the Desire, I know bigger and better phones will come out, but do you feel like you could last 2 years with this device?
Thanks in advance
Naughty_Ottsel

This last question may not be answerable but I'll give it a go. Mobile devices have lasted about 12 months maximum, due to my current financial problems I am looking at the T-Mobile £15 P/M contract which suits me perfectly but am not sure whether to go 18 or 24 month, is there anybody like me that cannot hold onto 1 phone longer than 12 months and how do you feel with the Desire, I know bigger and better phones will come out, but do you feel like you could last 2 years with this device?
Thanks in advance
Naughty_Ottsel
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I'm the same as you but if any phone is gonna last me 2 years this will be it

Naughty_Ottsel said:
Hey everyone, brought an iPhone 3G about 6 months ago off ebay thinking it was an amazing phone and in some respects it is, but the horrible internal specs have got to me and now reaching the end of my contract I am looking at the HTC Desire.
I have read that battery life can be bad but I am use to that with my 3G, not even a full charge can last me a full day where I am no where near a point i can charge my phone and when I am round friends I charge it overnight, so am use to the bad battery life, but is it better or worse than the 3G's
My biggest concern is also slow down, on paper the Desire should not face much slow down due to the high processor speed and high amounts of RAM but has anybody faced slow downs with the device and if so when and where e.g running 2,000 apps simultaneously or having the device on for days on end.
This last question may not be answerable but I'll give it a go. Mobile devices have lasted about 12 months maximum, due to my current financial problems I am looking at the T-Mobile £15 P/M contract which suits me perfectly but am not sure whether to go 18 or 24 month, is there anybody like me that cannot hold onto 1 phone longer than 12 months and how do you feel with the Desire, I know bigger and better phones will come out, but do you feel like you could last 2 years with this device?
Thanks in advance
Naughty_Ottsel
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2 Years this phone will still be top-range. Phone hardware is getting to that point where the hardware isnt the deciding factor no more, the speed of the 1Ghz snapdragon can already do 90% of the things you ever wanted to do with your phone, HD recording...HD Playback, quick smooth transitions (what am i missing?), with a good enough battery life. the speed of the 1ghz snapdragon is VERY fast so much that the new snapdragon that is proposed to be released 1.3Ghz single core and 1.5Ghz Dual Core (most likely a netbook CPU) just seem like overkill for phone uses.
So if in 12 months time HTC release ... HTC Unbelievable with a 3.8inch AMOLED Screen and 500mb RAM/ROM with a 1.3Ghz Snapdragon......I will feel no envy
And as you know, if its software thats the deciding factor...then seeing as you know about xda-devs.com your almost certainly gonna be on the latest updates. Heck i had my G1 since launch and it never felt a day old next to the Hero...I even had friends a HTC Hero looking at my G1 with a HTC Legend Rom..lol
Note: I will never get a 2 year contract personally tho lol

Naughty_Ottsel said:
I have read that battery life can be bad but I am use to that with my 3G, not even a full charge can last me a full day where I am no where near a point i can charge my phone and when I am round friends I charge it overnight, so am use to the bad battery life, but is it better or worse than the 3G's
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The Desire's battery life will be more superior compared to the iphone 3GS, the Desire uses a 1400 mAH battery capacity, while the 3GS only has a 1219 mAH battery. Another advantage that the Desire has it that you can buy another battery and replace it.
My biggest concern is also slow down, on paper the Desire should not face much slow down due to the high processor speed and high amounts of RAM but has anybody faced slow downs with the device and if so when and where e.g running 2,000 apps simultaneously or having the device on for days on end.
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One thing you need to note, which is the same as all unrooted android phones, is that currently you can't store apps on the memory card. It's something google apparently are looking to address. This is something that could potentially slow down your device. The Desire can also perform multi-tasking, something that the 3GS cannot do, but its in the pipeline for the new iphone 4G.
This last question may not be answerable but I'll give it a go. Mobile devices have lasted about 12 months maximum, due to my current financial problems I am looking at the T-Mobile £15 P/M contract which suits me perfectly but am not sure whether to go 18 or 24 month, is there anybody like me that cannot hold onto 1 phone longer than 12 months and how do you feel with the Desire, I know bigger and better phones will come out, but do you feel like you could last 2 years with this device?
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Hard to say at the moment until it can be rooted to unlock its full potential. Once it is rooted, many enhancements can be made and many of its current problems will hopefully be resolved.
Taken from another thread:
"Paul Apr 4 2010, 22:21
A quick update - I will have extremely limited Internet access for the next 2 weeks, so there won't be any further progress from me on rooting the Desire until I am fully back online on the 20th April.
The current Desire root status is that I DO have root access in a method that I believe can be replicated on other devices (I have a retail T-Mo device and i've had no issues), however HTC have implemented some rather sneaky protection methods that prevent writing of data to key partitions (boot, recovery, system etc.) which prevent us from enabling custom ROMs etc.
Aside from hoping an engineering SPL (and a way to flash it!) emerges, I do have a number of approaches I plan to try that I hope will unlock the last piece of the Desire puzzle, so don't give up hope just yet... progress IS being made.
P"

[Q] Qualcomm question..

First of all Im new to the forum so hello lol
I have a question about qualcomm...I know that the scorpion processor in the next generation 45 nm chip but what I dont understand is why is it clocked at 800mhz?
The made it such a big deal crossing the 1ghz mark and I would assume that they would never look back. I might not have my facts straight but dosent the 45 nm run clock-cycles just like a 65 nm but more efficiently in respect of battery consumption.
It looks as if they wanted to get in on the low-end Android market share. As for the G2 which I love, my friend ran quadrant pro infront of me and it shows the cpu was scored what looked like 20% lower than the nexus one at 2.2 (my guess from looking at it) but of coarse the gpu trashed the nexus one.
I saw a interview on engadget about a week ago about googles executive that said soon there will be a clear distinction or line between low end Android and high end Android devices. I wonder if HTC is in contact with google about future updates in order to release devices adequate enough to run them or are they just blindly releasing high build quality devices lol
Sorry about the long post but I had come up with a few questions that I didn't want to ask anywhere else.
Thanks.

Wait until our geniuses figure out root then you can happily run it a 1 Ghz+. If you look at the spec scheets for the MSM7230 then you will see it's rated for speeds 800-1000. Higher speeds=lower battery life, so the reasons for having it clocked lower are very practical. My G2 can average 1600-1650 on quadrant, so I don't think it's that bad.

azzeh3 said:
First of all Im new to the forum so hello lol
I have a question about qualcomm...I know that the scorpion processor in the next generation 45 nm chip but what I dont understand is why is it clocked at 800mhz?
The made it such a big deal crossing the 1ghz mark and I would assume that they would never look back. I might not have my facts straight but dosent the 45 nm run clock-cycles just like a 65 nm but more efficiently in respect of battery consumption.
It looks as if they wanted to get in on the low-end Android market share. As for the G2 which I love, my friend ran quadrant pro infront of me and it shows the cpu was scored what looked like 20% lower than the nexus one at 2.2 (my guess from looking at it) but of coarse the gpu trashed the nexus one.
I saw a interview on engadget about a week ago about googles executive that said soon there will be a clear distinction or line between low end Android and high end Android devices. I wonder if HTC is in contact with google about future updates in order to release devices adequate enough to run them or are they just blindly releasing high build quality devices lol
Sorry about the long post but I had come up with a few questions that I didn't want to ask anywhere else.
Thanks.
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MHz is a misleading statistic to judge performance by. A 1GHz processor is not guaranteed to be faster than an 800MHz one. What is always true, though, is that a given processor running at 1GHz will take more energy than the same processor running at 800MHz. Because these new processors are so fast, even at 800MHz, they are competitive or even faster than any other phone on the market today. However by clocking them a bit slower, they also have quite serviceable battery life.
In daily use, it is unlikely that you would notice much difference between 800MHz and 1GHz with this cpu. They are both plenty fast, and most of the time the CPU will be waiting for you, not the other way around. However if it were clocked at 1GHz, you would immediately see a shorter battery life, so to my mind the sacrifice is well worth it.
As far as any fears that this might be a "low end phone", make no mistake, this is the premiere Android phone on the market right now. The Droid 2 may have a higher profile, but it is slower, has a slower network, and uses a non-standard GUI (not to mention a whole lot more expensive when you factor in the price of the service). No phone will have every possible feature that people want, but as far as raw capabilities go, there is no better phone on the market today as far as I can see.

Those seem to be very valid points and thanks for the input..
One other thing when exactly do you need 1ghz of processing speed?? I mean back in the day the macbook air used a 1.5 ghz processor..
Also where dose the ram come into play?

azzeh3 said:
Those seem to be very valid points and thanks for the input..
One other thing when exactly do you need 1ghz of processing speed?? I mean back in the day the macbook air used a 1.5 ghz processor..
Also where dose the ram come into play?
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RAM is a far bigger determiner of performance on a day-to-day basis than processor speed, at least to a point. You could have a 10GHz computer, but if you only had 64k of RAM it would crawl along miserably slow.
In either case, there is a point of diminishing returns, though as applications become more demanding that point gets higher and higher. I remember selling Mac's back in the early-mid 90's and telling eople, don't worry, 16Megs of RAM (a huge amount back then when the standard was 4MB) would handle anything they could throw at it. Little did I know that just 15 years later I would have 500x that much in my desktop and 32x as much in my cell phone!
I am by no means a Andoid systems expert, but from what I have read there is not much benefit of having more than 512MB of RAM with the current versions of the Android OS. I would have preferred that they included 1GB of RAM just for a future growth path, but I can understand why they didn't. Each of these features costs money, so you have to draw the line someplace, you can't included every feature people may ask for in every phone.

Your right lol How will the big companies make any money if they give you everything you wanted....
I've never kept a phone for more than 8 months because of updated stats but lately there is a boom in technology so its going to be more like 4 months now hahaha

[Q] Kaiser 3D Drivers For Android - SOLVED - CAN BE CLOSED

I was wondering, the 3D performance is a lot better on the kaiser when using the video drivers (of course).
But is there any way to get the 3D driver to work in android?
Since i don't think it's possible to just install the driver on WM and then run Android because it fully shuts down WM i was wondering wether there's a way to get that nice smooth performance on Android as well.
Or is there any app that makes the kaiser a bit faster (graphics wise)?
Thanks a lot!!!
Answer:
3D Drivers are implemented (if that's the correct word (I'm from Belgium so)) in Android.

syntax1993 said:
I was wondering, the 3D performance is a lot better on the kaiser when using the video drivers (of course).
But is there any way to get the 3D driver to work in android?
Since i don't think it's possible to just install the driver on WM and then run Android because it fully shuts down WM i was wondering wether there's a way to get that nice smooth performance on Android as well.
Or is there any app that makes the kaiser a bit faster (graphics wise)?
Thanks a lot!!!
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Aren't they allready implemented using opengl????

If your running android you already have the drivers, they are in the kernel. I think we need to make a big sticky of that somewhere, third time ive seen it asked this week.

aceoyame said:
If your running android you already have the drivers, they are in the kernel. I think we need to make a big sticky of that somewhere, third time ive seen it asked this week.
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I second that

syntax1993 said:
Or is there any app that makes the kaiser a bit faster (graphics wise)?
Thanks a lot!!!
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As has already been said, HW3d is implemented into the kernel which utilises the qcom chip in our kaiser's, but the hardware graphics acceleration although better then nothing is pretty crap compared to the new phones coming along so you can't expect miracles, just be glad it has any at all and android can actually use it unlike window mobile!

scooter1556 said:
As has already been said, HW3d is implemented into the kernel which utilises the qcom chip in our kaiser's, but the hardware graphics acceleration although better then nothing is pretty crap compared to the new phones coming along so you can't expect miracles, just be glad it has any at all and android can actually use it unlike window mobile!
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I would not call 32 frames per second in NEOCORE, with your build, prertty crap.
Well, can not be compared to new phones, but you must admit that this is more than enough to run 3D games(we can play RagingTunder2!).

Millence said:
I would not call 32 frames per second in NEOCORE, with your build, prertty crap.
Well, can not be compared to new phones, but you must admit that this is more than enough to run 3D games(we can play RagingTunder2!).
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No, it is quite impressive for an old timer, but obviously it can't keep up with the new hardware on the market and therefore the applications/games that are targeted at these devices. It's also a shame it isn't man enough for new video codecs although installing arcMedia which uses FFMpeg as it's backend improves things a little and gives support for more formats.

Thank you for answering, i had no idea it was integrated into the kernel.
I've heard that the kaiser had a quite good video chip but that's probably compared to the other phones at that time .
Well my phone is running Quake2 at about 10FPS (a bit higher (about 15-20) when looking into corners etc.) and i was hoping for a bit higher rate but it seems it isn't very easy to gain that on android.
Thanks a lot again for this quick answer, i haven't found any post on the forum wich answered my question so...
Syntax1993

Haven't looked well enough then it seems.
I'm sorry.

awhile back I looked at the performance of our integrated 3d and it is about on par with a rage 128 from what I remember... which is pretty bad lol not to mention that on android we have to run through java and we have a pretty weak fpu. I mean in linpack with my barebones rls 3 and overclocked to 572 mhz I get 3.8 mflop/s which is pretty bad lol. That was with JIT working properly even.

aceoyame said:
awhile back I looked at the performance of our integrated 3d and it is about on par with a rage 128 from what I remember... which is pretty bad lol not to mention that on android we have to run through java and we have a pretty weak fpu. I mean in linpack with my barebones rls 3 and overclocked to 572 mhz I get 3.8 mflop/s which is pretty bad lol. That was with JIT working properly even.
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Have u had any problems clocking that high? I'm a bit scared to clock higher than 450Mhz because i don't want to brick my phone tbh.
Would be cool to clock that high.
*Afraid to clock that high LOL*

syntax1993 said:
Have u had any problems clocking that high? I'm a bit scared to clock higher than 450Mhz because i don't want to brick my phone tbh.
Would be cool to clock that high.
*Afraid to clock that high LOL*
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And there's the batt consumption issue... even if it can be reached ull need a really really long lasting extended batt, I got a Seidio Inocell 1600mAh, in a donut with .25 kernel and oced to 470, my batt last me like 10-12 hours if I use moderate wifi, bt or gps and keeping my data to 2g only.... If I try to keep my wifi or gps turned on all time and use 3g probably it wouldnt last more than 4-6 hours.

albertorodast2007 said:
And there's the batt consumption issue... even if it can be reached ull need a really really long lasting extended batt, I got a Seidio Inocell 1600mAh, in a donut with .25 kernel and oced to 470, my batt last me like 10-12 hours if I use moderate wifi, bt or gps and keeping my data to 2g only.... If I try to keep my wifi or gps turned on all time and use 3g probably it wouldnt last more than 4-6 hours.
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Well since the data here costs a lot of money (i don't know what it's like where you live) i rarely use it.
GPS is off and wifi is only on when at home or for a short period of time.
BT is also rarely used and off when not used.
I'm using a 2880Mah battery so the clocking won't be that much of a problem and i can recharge it every night so.
Aren't there high costs for 2G and 3G? it's waay to expensive to have it turned on all day.
Would i get any problems when clocking to around 500Mhz or smthng like that?

syntax1993 said:
Well since the data here costs a lot of money (i don't know what it's like where you live) i rarely use it.
GPS is off and wifi is only on when at home or for a short period of time.
BT is also rarely used and off when not used.
I'm using a 2880Mah battery so the clocking won't be that much of a problem and i can recharge it every night so.
Aren't there high costs for 2G and 3G? it's waay to expensive to have it turned on all day.
Would i get any problems when clocking to around 500Mhz or smthng like that?
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If ur using a data plan its relatively cheaper... i've oced my lil htc tilt to 520mhz, specialy when trying heavy apps and never had an issue (well never had issues more than the normal ones LOL ) you'll feel it gets a bit "warm" in the backside (maybe due to the higher batt consumption) and speed increase isnt that much beyond a certain point but maybe ull be luckier than me! (this is something common in evert oc! my cousin and i both have an evga gtx 275 i can get ir run almost 100 mhz higher than stock and if my cousin even tries to touch the values his pc hangs up!!) Taking abuot that... The only thing i've never tried was to oc the gpu (i've seen that option in atools) dunno if its doable in our kaisers and if there's a real increase/decrease in performance... if you give it a try maybe you could publish ur results...

albertorodast2007 said:
If ur using a data plan its relatively cheaper... i've oced my lil htc tilt to 520mhz, specialy when trying heavy apps and never had an issue (well never had issues more than the normal ones LOL ) you'll feel it gets a bit "warm" in the backside (maybe due to the higher batt consumption) and speed increase isnt that much beyond a certain point but maybe ull be luckier than me! (this is something common in evert oc! my cousin and i both have an evga gtx 275 i can get ir run almost 100 mhz higher than stock and if my cousin even tries to touch the values his pc hangs up!!) Taking abuot that... The only thing i've never tried was to oc the gpu (i've seen that option in atools) dunno if its doable in our kaisers and if there's a real increase/decrease in performance... if you give it a try maybe you could publish ur results...
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I'll try clocking CPU to about 500Mhz or a bit more
Going to use it tomorrow because it's about 9pm ATM.
GPU would be nice if it was possible to overclock it.
I'll post it tomorrow, could be that i can't see any result compared to a lower frequency.
Thx for ur help btw!

I've noticed a small diffrence when trying quake2 atm.
The diffrence isn't very great but i will try clocking it a bit higher tomorrow
Yooooo

As i've said before many times there is no risk in overclocking past 528 because we are not touching the voltage going to the cpu when we are overclocking it, just the crystal that controls the frequency it is running at. There is a slight heat increase and loss of battery consequentially because of that extra heat but that is it. I am speaking from experience overclocking a 2.4 ghz celeron E2200 to 4.25 ghz on air cooling with no disatrous results and used it as such every day. Basically I overclocked it with a pinmod for voltage and FSB increases and then I overclocked it further with the motherboard and supplied even more voltage. For the heatsink I used an OEM socket 775 heatsink and had no problems at all, it typically ran about 48 Celsius. If an overclock that high and potentially harmful won't kill the cpu then certainly one of a much smaller % is not going to harm a little kaiser.
FYI I took the voltage on that Celeron to 1.7 volts to get it that high. Stock is 1.1 if I recall

aceoyame said:
As i've said before many times there is no risk in overclocking past 528 because we are not touching the voltage going to the cpu when we are overclocking it, just the crystal that controls the frequency it is running at. There is a slight heat increase and loss of battery consequentially because of that extra heat but that is it. I am speaking from experience overclocking a 2.4 ghz celeron E2200 to 4.25 ghz on air cooling with no disatrous results and used it as such every day. Basically I overclocked it with a pinmod for voltage and FSB increases and then I overclocked it further with the motherboard and supplied even more voltage. For the heatsink I used an OEM socket 775 heatsink and had no problems at all, it typically ran about 48 Celsius. If an overclock that high and potentially harmful won't kill the cpu then certainly one of a much smaller % is not going to harm a little kaiser.
FYI I took the voltage on that Celeron to 1.7 volts to get it that high. Stock is 1.1 if I recall
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Awsome I could only reach 2.9 gigs on a intel q9400 on an asrock g31m-s (its a really crappy n cheap mobo!) The q9400 runs stock @ 2.66 maybe u can help me with that too lol!! Kiddin...
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albertorodast2007 said:
Awsome I could only reach 2.9 gigs on a intel q9400 on an asrock g31m-s (its a really crappy n cheap mobo!) The q9400 runs stock @ 2.66 maybe u can help me with that too lol!! Kiddin...
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See BSEL pin mod for socket 775 as it isnt a gigabyte board that should send your OC soaring through the roof since it doesnt use CPUID for configuring its clock speed on boot.

Millence said:
I would not call 32 frames per second in NEOCORE, with your build, prertty crap.
Well, can not be compared to new phones, but you must admit that this is more than enough to run 3D games(we can play RagingTunder2!).
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Just tried Raging Thunder 2. Wow - I had no idea games like this could run well on our old machines - except without an accelerometer I can't see how to steer and accelerate at the same time .
Are there any other nice looking action/racing gaems out there that give decent frame rates?