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Windows Mobile 7 in Live Mesh Commerecial

Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RY-q8k2RRI
It appears at the 0:33 mark. Compare what you see to the following photos:
http://www.engadget.com/photos/is-this-windows-mobile-7/561239/
What do think? Did Microsoft just give us glimpse into the next version of Windows Mobile? I'm pretty exited over this if you can't already tell.

WOW!
It's on the nike too!
Can't wait to see if they release it for the nike!
=]
Good luck to you excalibur users, My brother owns one =]

wreiad said:
Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RY-q8k2RRI
It appears at the 0:33 mark. Compare what you see to the following photos:
http://www.engadget.com/photos/is-this-windows-mobile-7/561239/
What do think? Did Microsoft just give us glimpse into the next version of Windows Mobile? I'm pretty exited over this if you can't already tell.
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What do I think?
I think I will see what Android offers.
I don't see anything interesting in those pictures.

spikey911 said:
What do I think?
I think I will see what Android offers.
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Ditto. And I hope it's a little more spiffed than what I've seen from the SDK emulator and the "leaked" pics of the supposed first phone.

spikey911 said:
What do I think?
I think I will see what Android offers.
I don't see anything interesting in those pictures.
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Then... Why are you here?
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Now playing: Marilyn Manson - tourniquet
via FoxyTunes

Ok here
Better Quality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFpwzg-AP_Q&NR=1
What do you guys think now? Doesn't it look pretty similar to the photos?

wreiad said:
Then... Why are you here?
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Probably to find out things about the Dash? Maybe to soak in new tech, but hay i'll say the same doesn't look impresive and i'm def not here to listen to Manson

wreiad said:
Then... Why are you here?
<annoying foxytunes crap snipped>
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I'm here because I believe in helping people get the most from their dash through greater information availability...that and I actually *like* some of the guys on this board.
That having been said, I'm not a fan of Microsoft who, unless there is significant competition from one or more outside sources, will *not* innovate since they know they have consumers by the balls.
I'm all for checking out Android since it's open-source. As it's about the only thing that promises major, widespread, worldwide consumer competition for Microsoft, it will hopefully light a fire under their respective asses to actually improve their stagnant PDA-phone operating system. The supposed WM7 pics and videos might be a start, but they're already way behind.
I've used smartphones since WM2002, and it really hasn't changed fundamentally since then. To use the current political language, Microsoft can only keep putting fresh lipstick on a pig for so long.

wreiad said:
Then... Why are you here?
<Foxy Tune b.s. snipped as well>
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That's a dumb question...
I am here because I own a Dash and I LOVE it.
I am here because YOU asked for our opinions.
I am here because this is a GREAT group of people with a lot of knowledge and skill.
However this discussion is about WM7, which the Dash WILL NOT HAVE.
Those Youtube videos don't even show 2 seconds worth of video of the phone, what exactly are we supposed to see?
Thanks for asking, but next time if you want peoples opinions, don't always expect them to agree with yours....
Beartard, you are absolutely right, I have had a PPC since day one, and its pretty much the same today as back then..

Wow, tough crowd. I appreciate the video surfacing again, and it shows some things which we did not appreciate then:
1) Sliding panels is coming to WM Professional.
2) The live mesh integration client is pretty cool.
3) WM7 is going to look cool too.
For the people looking for change over the years, I have been using WM since 2000, and I have seen plenty of change.
Surur

Where is our January update?

Can someone point me in the direction of an article talking about when this update will be out? I want copy and paste really bad, it's frustrating without it.
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There never was an official January update.
Though the current rumor is that it will be here by early February.
Though there is no official word since there's a back and forth with the carriers regarding certification of the update.

Reflexx1 said:
There never was an official January update.
Though the current rumor is that it will be here by early February.
Though there is no official word since there's a back and forth with the carriers regarding certification of the update.
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Well this is bull****, this os is ****ing half built it seems like, really disappointed in ms how they handled this.
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That is how all OSs start. We all should of known going in, but it is the best multimedia phone still.
The real update is scheduled for later this year and is called mango. Until then consider the os have done.

Paul Nur said:
Well this is bull****, this os is ****ing half built it seems like, really disappointed in ms how they handled this.
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Do you actually understand that this "half built os" is only couple of months old? it's not even mid january yet and people are complaining about the january update!!

Im pretty sure this OS is fully built.
It could use some more features, but the OS is fully built.
WP7 is a cake fresh out of the oven. We just need to add the sprinkles. And I'm a man who loves his sprinkles....

MarcMaiden said:
Im pretty sure this OS is fully built.
It could use some more features, but the OS is fully built.
WP7 is a cake fresh out of the oven. We just need to add the sprinkles. And I'm a man who loves his sprinkles....
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Well said sir, well said

MarcMaiden said:
Im pretty sure this OS is fully built.
It could use some more features, but the OS is fully built.
WP7 is a cake fresh out of the oven. We just need to add the sprinkles. And I'm a man who loves his sprinkles....
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best way to put it. need some cream cheese frosting. perhaps mango creen cheese frosting. damn. I need to bake a cake, now im hungry

eaver said:
Do you actually understand that this "half built os" is only couple of months old? it's not even mid january yet and people are complaining about the january update!!
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welcome on this forum ,LOL or do you have to welcome me on this forum
joins in 2005 and first post in 2011

People are quoting this supposed "mango" update info with no official announcement, just as some did for the supposed "january update that will make WP7 seem like WP8" if it doesnt materialise even more moaning will start. We should stick to what has been officially announced to avoid the inevitable MS bashing that will commence if they dont deliver the "massive" update rumours are claiming.

sadoway said:
best way to put it. need some cream cheese frosting. perhaps mango creen cheese frosting. damn. I need to bake a cake, now im hungry
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It defiantly needs something. I noticed in the past 2-3 weeks my phone has been acting different. Two things I noticed was when I go through my pictures the picture does not fill the whole screen, there is a black space at the bottom maybe a 5th of the screen is now black flipping throught pictures. One more thing was when playing music, when I switch the song i hear a loud noise, like a part of a song maybe half a second gets played very loud but not distinguishable what it was. This happening to anyone else? Sorry if it was a run on a little.
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If you look HERE you'll see they have OFFICIALLY announced the update - just not the exact date!

efjay said:
People are quoting this supposed "mango" update info with no official announcement, just as some did for the supposed "january update that will make WP7 seem like WP8" if it doesnt materialise even more moaning will start. We should stick to what has been officially announced to avoid the inevitable MS bashing that will commence if they dont deliver the "massive" update rumours are claiming.
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++1
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just do what I did, sell your crappy wp7 and get an Android....

eortizr said:
just do what I did, sell your crappy wp7 and get an Android....
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I just don't get this 'crappy' label? I have an HD2 (the best WM6.5 phone there is) and the HD7. Now agreed the HD7 is lacking a few features and GPS software etc BUT... and I have to stress this BUT.... it is only a few months old. Many users have only just got their WP unit and are moaning already!
It's absolutely pathetic. There are enough websites out there that will tell you everything about the WP phones - if you don't read them then if you don't like the phones it's your own fault! People go on about the iPhone being bug free and amazing - well that's taken years and it's hardly bug free (several of my mates installed the latest update and lost EVERYTHING off their phones when it bricked them!) - plus how great Android is... well that is wrong - it may be good (I love it on my HD2) but it is riddled with problems, slow down, programs that crash it etc....
If you don't like the WP OS then change your phone - the rest of us will wait a while for MS to give us updates and improve what is already a great mobile device!

ceesheim said:
welcome on this forum ,LOL or do you have to welcome me on this forum
joins in 2005 and first post in 2011
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well buddy, english isn't my first language, so that's why i don"t want to comment on every topic

Paul Nur said:
Well this is bull****, this os is ****ing half built it seems like, really disappointed in ms how they handled this.
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Now you know how I felt about a month ago when MS announced the Aug/Sep massive update. And why my HD7...aka DesireHD7...is waiting for an Android ROM.
I put no trust or stock in MS. They aren't about consumer satisfaction. And they don't have the slightest concern about satisfying consumers.

eortizr said:
just do what I did, sell your crappy wp7 and get an Android....
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Crappy?? enjoy your time rooting and hacking your android device.. maybe one day you'll have time to actually use your phone for something useful ;-)

Paul Nur said:
It defiantly needs something. I noticed in the past 2-3 weeks my phone has been acting different. Two things I noticed was when I go through my pictures the picture does not fill the whole screen, there is a black space at the bottom maybe a 5th of the screen is now black flipping throught pictures. One more thing was when playing music, when I switch the song i hear a loud noise, like a part of a song maybe half a second gets played very loud but not distinguishable what it was. This happening to anyone else? Sorry if it was a run on a little.
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It's MS removing or disabling stuff, to make a supposed update more apparent and liked. Kinda like a car lot putting on a sale of 10% off the entire stock. But they previously increased the cost 15%.
I used to be able to add email folders, and added about three. Now I can't.

eaver said:
Crappy?? enjoy your time rooting and hacking your android device.. maybe one day you'll have time to actually use your phone for something useful ;-)
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Like how I'm using my HD2 with a DesireHD ROM...or any other Android version I desire. Works well and is reliable. My DesireHD7 will be even better with Android.

WP7 Today's Update "No Donuts"

Does anyone got the update on his device?
First Impressions? How long it took to install? Incompatibility Issues? Changes in system speed and stability?
Let's monitor this!
Here in Italy isn't yet arrived

It's supposed to come out today?

yeah, it was announced arriving the 07/02..... but till now nothing...

That's the rumor, the rumor was also like 9am, eastern time I believe
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the.rider1290 said:
yeah, it was announced arriving the 07/02..... but till now nothing...
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That was only a rumour. I wouldn't hold your breath for it being today

Source of rumor? I just unlocked my WP7 but it can go out the Windows if it means I get C&P and faster app launching.

by the way Microsoft assured that the will support homebrew applications in future updates, son no longer need to patch the phone...

Who knows if they'll actually follow through with it? I also doubt they'll start that initiative with this update. They got more important stuff to tend to first.

the.rider1290 said:
by the way Microsoft assured that the will support homebrew applications in future updates, son no longer need to patch the phone...
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No, they haven't.
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-to-officially-support-homebrew-developments-on-windows-phone-7
Do no believe everything you read on the internet until you see this things -> " ", followed by a respected Microsoft employee's name.

Yeah the OP keeps throwing out false information, we might as well close that thread.
And no, the update was never "announced arriving the 07/02".

FiyaFleye said:
That's the rumor, the rumor was also like 9am, eastern time I believe
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It's 09:15, Bosnia, GMT+1, nothing yet...

Yep i also think its just a rumor. But if does turn out to be true and gets released, then hooray! Just dont hold your breath for it

if the rumors are right and they never are then 9am est is 2pm gmt so just over 5 hours. I wont hold my breath though. I hope it is right as i do get off work early on a Monday lol i'm more interested in the Nokia rumor as the wp7 is already perfect for me so i'm more interested in keeping its future alive as i don't want to go to iPhone or BB and Android is really more suited as a tablet os imho.

Peew971 said:
Yeah the OP keeps throwing out false information, we might as well close that thread.
And no, the update was never "announced arriving the 07/02".
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OK, it was rumored but usually they are attendible when they are not changed near the effective date.
>the OP keeps throwing out false information, we might as well close that thread.
Go back playing with Barbie, that post is still helpful

I hope that this will take place in April at least. Knowing MS, I don't expect for these days

Only update we've had was to the Dev Tools, and any dates posted have only been rumours and heresay.
Till an official annoucement, we wait...

the.rider1290 said:
Go back playing with Barbie
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Yeah that's mature, this is what XDA has become.

Peew971 said:
Yeah that's mature, this is what XDA has become.
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It become nothing of bad, if you take a look to my other posts I am just trying to help users that come here and want to experiment on their devices, that thread want just to be a place where to discuss about rumors and, if it will be released, to discuss about pros and cons about the first WP7 update.
Just don't go around asking to close threads if you don't share the content.
By the way, think we are a lot that hope for this update for speed and copy/paste, so....

the.rider1290 said:
that thread want just to be a place where to discuss about rumors and, if it will be released, to discuss about pros and cons about the first WP7 update.
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No you created that thread as a place to discuss the "officially released today" update, which it's not. Then you stated that Microsoft "assured they would support homebrew applications" which is also false, which is why I wrote my post.
But never mind, I'm going back to play with Barbie since I'm the immature one.
Ciao

Calm down ladies...enough cat fighting. Its all good. If it comes out today, awesome. If it doesn't, oh well.

Window phone mango 500+ Features.

So everyone, I have mango loading in my HTC HD7. Microsoft claimed that there are more than 500+ features, but so far I only see like 10 of them. Where are the rest?

Mango Features Listed
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-mango-features-fully-revealed

What sort of websites use HTML5? my bro says none of the good websites (e.g. sockshare, putlocker, megavieo) use flash
EDIT: Gonna rephrase this
Are the any websites that I can watch/Download shows off which use HTML5?

5minutes said:
So everyone, I have mango loading in my HTC HD7. Microsoft claimed that there are more than 500+ features, but so far I only see like 10 of them. Where are the rest?
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Oh please ..you see only 10 new features ???
Not another one of those uselless thread..

colossus_r said:
Oh please ..you see only 10 new features ???
Not another one of those uselless thread..
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ha, that's what I thought. When I read it.
Please lock the thread and move on...

Actually.. he's kinda right.. I know that the improvements are said to be 500. Okay, and this includes a thousand of news inside the system, wich we can't see, just in the future.
But i'm curious about all 500 features.

http://www.everythingwm.com/forum/threads/windows-phone-7-5-mango-full-feature-list.37799/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084161

akuji_bwn said:
http://www.everythingwm.com/forum/threads/windows-phone-7-5-mango-full-feature-list.37799/
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Yeah, thanks.. But there is not 500 there.

5minutes said:
So everyone, I have mango loading in my HTC HD7. Microsoft claimed that there are more than 500+ features, but so far I only see like 10 of them. Where are the rest?
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I think too, no more like 10 features. MS lie, about 500+. AND WP7 will be epic fail. Time will go on, another OS (android, iOS) to go for really upgrade, but WP7 stupid at MS lie.

truevoxdei said:
I think too, no more like 10 features. MS lie, about 500+. AND WP7 will be epic fail. Time will go on, another OS (android, iOS) to go for really upgrade, but WP7 stupid at MS lie.
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Dude, there is pictures of Tango already. Dont spit bull**** like this if you know nothing.

mikeeam said:
Dude, there is pictures of Tango already. Dont spit bull**** like this if you know nothing.
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Ha ha... And then next version will be "stringo", dude. I know, MS very slow with from idea TO good stuff... in our fastest and hardest world. Competitors will never sleep. Remember it.

truevoxdei said:
Ha ha... And then next version will be "stringo", dude. I know, MS very slow with from idea TO good stuff... in our fastest and hardest world. Competitors will never sleep. Remember it.
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I know this very well. Because next year, WP7 is going to compete not with iOS 5, but with iOS 6. And with Ice Cream Sandwich. So MS should think straight and have some cards hidden in the sleeves, because Tango may be fine, but they need Apollo since this year, and Mango since LAST year.
Even more now with "Googlerola".

mikeeam said:
I know this very well. Because next year, WP7 is going to compete not with iOS 5, but with iOS 6.
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Ok. BUT MS have not some very important functions in WP7 still . All world wait it "important functions" in Mango. Expectations of many people were not met.

truevoxdei said:
Ok. BUT MS have not some very important functions in WP7 still . All world wait it "important functions" in Mango. Expectations of many people were not met.
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Mango is already out there. And to be honest, I dont think it was a mistaken leak. I think Microsoft intentionally leaked it. Anyone can install, like Apple jailbreak. You can just go ahead and read some tutorials. It's no hard.
Right now, I have mango, in Portuguese, running perfectly smooth. I don't need to use third party apps to Facebook, MSN, Twitter, LinkedIn. And most importand than have their own apps, it's integrated with the system and working better than any iOS/Android app would do.
It doesnt have customizations indeed, but who cares? Thread message is sexy, notifications are pretty nice, though it have some flaws. The keyboard is LOT better than Android's, even if its not swype. Tiles simply rocks, fast app switch could be better, but its better than Android too.
The user experience is a lot better overall.

truevoxdei said:
I think too, no more like 10 features. MS lie, about 500+. AND WP7 will be epic fail. Time will go on, another OS (android, iOS) to go for really upgrade, but WP7 stupid at MS lie.
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What do you expect from a 1 year member of the XDA and this is his 4th post ...
Man you are something...

akuji_bwn said:
http://www.everythingwm.com/forum/threads/windows-phone-7-5-mango-full-feature-list.37799/
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I count all of these features and they are still less than 100. It is still far from 500.

Most of the features are ones we do not see. Bug fixes, API updates, developer hooks and plug-ins, tons of stuff that we cannot physically touch or play with. That is until a developer takes advantage of the new features.
Once Mango comes out, you'll see much better apps on the platform, ones that are able to take advantage of many of 500 new features that Windows Phone Mango brings.

And that haters continue to hate for the sake of hating. Would you rather support the socially irresponsible company that makes overpriced under spec'd hardware and makes record profits while making NO charitable donations or even trying to help people in need, even those hurt in their own factories?!
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You are going off topic. Asking question about something is not the same as hating it.

truevoxdei said:
Ok. BUT MS have not some very important functions in WP7 still . All world wait it "important functions" in Mango. Expectations of many people were not met.
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that's politics. Your statement contains absolutely no content. You can easily replace MS with any other competitor and WP7 or Mango with any other OS.
what important functions?
what expectations?
many people? what does that mean? there are many people who don't like Android or iOS
if you want to make a statement then you need to use some facts. If you can't do that then you need to research. Otherwise I have to say that your post is off topic. Look at other posts in this thread in which the posters actually contributed something to the topic and the original post.

"Show off your WP7" thread

Here's mine

Whats Wi-Fi App is that. Is it Free?

Right, there is no way to make screenshots?
For me too!!
Because of that useless OS on our phones.
Remember the old WM times?
Anything was possible...

Crimson Lotus said:
Whats Wi-Fi App is that. Is it Free?
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WP Shortcut Tiles. It's the best one so far.

MartyLK said:
WP Shortcut Tiles. It's the best one so far.
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And screenshots?
Not the best, wish only ONE!

ziko said:
And screenshots?
Not the best, wish only ONE!
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Screenshots can happen, with a recently released app. But it requires a Dev.-unlocked system. Give MS time to get that in. Go vote for it here. MS is listening to everything people are wanting. If enough votes happen for a feature, they will likely implement it.
Screenshot app

Wow! That's beautiful. The Omnia looks gorgeous too. You took really nicely composed pictures

MartyLK said:
Screenshots can happen, with a recently released app. But it requires a Dev.-unlocked system. Give MS time to get that in. Go vote for it here. MS is listening to everything people are wanting. If enough votes happen for a feature, they will likely implement it.
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this isn't a bash, but the pictures look bad. i know the desktop on that two-phone shot above has some colors, and it likely pretty, but a screenshot would do it so much justice.
there is always a blur, or a low-light focus/shake issue. more screenshots, and by all means petition microsoft if you have to, but GET THE SCREENSHOTS !
here's one just to prove no hatin'

ohgood said:
this isn't a bash, but the pictures look bad. i know the desktop on that two-phone shot above has some colors, and it likely pretty, but a screenshot would do it so much justice.
there is always a blur, or a low-light focus/shake issue. more screenshots, and by all means petition microsoft if you have to, but GET THE SCREENSHOTS !
here's one just to prove no hatin'
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IMPOSTER! POSER! lol...

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I hate your Titan and that it's not coming to T-Mobile.
That's right, I hate your Titan.
H a t e
I t.

PoisonWolf said:
I hate your Titan and that it's not coming to T-Mobile.
That's right, I hate your Titan.
H a t e
I t.
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LOL.
You'll have Radar on T-Mobile and thanks for T-Mobile, it has 4G Radio.
But... 3.7 inch TFT-LCD... lol.
I am on AT&T now, Titan doesn't support T-Mobile HSPA Frequency.

Strike_Eagle said:
LOL.
You'll have Radar on T-Mobile and thanks for T-Mobile, it has 4G Radio.
But... 3.7 inch TFT-LCD... lol.
I am on AT&T now, Titan doesn't support T-Mobile HSPA Frequency.
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Psssh, Radar, Smadar.
Might as well send it to the scrap yard already.
I WANT THE TITAN.
I HATE T-MOBILE AND I HATE YOU FOR PUTTING THAT PICTURE UP.
I have a fetish for screens......

Well, here's mine:
nothing special

If you quote reply, please delete images!

Yes I'm still using a HD2 ...well if Microsoft will insist on only limiting us to three buttons ..and yes I should have de-smudged it before snapping it ...and yes my windows do need cleaning hehe.
This was a quick snap on my window ledge but I love the idea of a WP7 photo competition. Microsoft where are our prizes? If it gets interesting I'll re-take it with a cleaner window when there's a more dramatic lightning filled stormy sky and a flock of eagles are flying past (which of course happens a lot).

well here's my phone's screenshots
Yes i used the screen capturer for unlocked devices

morpheuszg said:
Well, here's mine:
nothing special
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They're all special. Yours are no exception. Beautiful.
These also give people an idea of other apps and their tiles. The more we all see, the more familiar we are with what works and such.

Here's mines. I have the HD7