Does anyone got the update on his device?
First Impressions? How long it took to install? Incompatibility Issues? Changes in system speed and stability?
Let's monitor this!
Here in Italy isn't yet arrived
It's supposed to come out today?
yeah, it was announced arriving the 07/02..... but till now nothing...
That's the rumor, the rumor was also like 9am, eastern time I believe
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yeah, it was announced arriving the 07/02..... but till now nothing...
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That was only a rumour. I wouldn't hold your breath for it being today
Source of rumor? I just unlocked my WP7 but it can go out the Windows if it means I get C&P and faster app launching.
by the way Microsoft assured that the will support homebrew applications in future updates, son no longer need to patch the phone...
Who knows if they'll actually follow through with it? I also doubt they'll start that initiative with this update. They got more important stuff to tend to first.
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by the way Microsoft assured that the will support homebrew applications in future updates, son no longer need to patch the phone...
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No, they haven't.
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-to-officially-support-homebrew-developments-on-windows-phone-7
Do no believe everything you read on the internet until you see this things -> " ", followed by a respected Microsoft employee's name.
Yeah the OP keeps throwing out false information, we might as well close that thread.
And no, the update was never "announced arriving the 07/02".
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That's the rumor, the rumor was also like 9am, eastern time I believe
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It's 09:15, Bosnia, GMT+1, nothing yet...
Yep i also think its just a rumor. But if does turn out to be true and gets released, then hooray! Just dont hold your breath for it
if the rumors are right and they never are then 9am est is 2pm gmt so just over 5 hours. I wont hold my breath though. I hope it is right as i do get off work early on a Monday lol i'm more interested in the Nokia rumor as the wp7 is already perfect for me so i'm more interested in keeping its future alive as i don't want to go to iPhone or BB and Android is really more suited as a tablet os imho.
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Yeah the OP keeps throwing out false information, we might as well close that thread.
And no, the update was never "announced arriving the 07/02".
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OK, it was rumored but usually they are attendible when they are not changed near the effective date.
>the OP keeps throwing out false information, we might as well close that thread.
Go back playing with Barbie, that post is still helpful
I hope that this will take place in April at least. Knowing MS, I don't expect for these days
Only update we've had was to the Dev Tools, and any dates posted have only been rumours and heresay.
Till an official annoucement, we wait...
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Go back playing with Barbie
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Yeah that's mature, this is what XDA has become.
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Yeah that's mature, this is what XDA has become.
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It become nothing of bad, if you take a look to my other posts I am just trying to help users that come here and want to experiment on their devices, that thread want just to be a place where to discuss about rumors and, if it will be released, to discuss about pros and cons about the first WP7 update.
Just don't go around asking to close threads if you don't share the content.
By the way, think we are a lot that hope for this update for speed and copy/paste, so....
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that thread want just to be a place where to discuss about rumors and, if it will be released, to discuss about pros and cons about the first WP7 update.
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No you created that thread as a place to discuss the "officially released today" update, which it's not. Then you stated that Microsoft "assured they would support homebrew applications" which is also false, which is why I wrote my post.
But never mind, I'm going back to play with Barbie since I'm the immature one.
Ciao
Calm down ladies...enough cat fighting. Its all good. If it comes out today, awesome. If it doesn't, oh well.
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Can someone point me in the direction of an article talking about when this update will be out? I want copy and paste really bad, it's frustrating without it.
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There never was an official January update.
Though the current rumor is that it will be here by early February.
Though there is no official word since there's a back and forth with the carriers regarding certification of the update.
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There never was an official January update.
Though the current rumor is that it will be here by early February.
Though there is no official word since there's a back and forth with the carriers regarding certification of the update.
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Well this is bull****, this os is ****ing half built it seems like, really disappointed in ms how they handled this.
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That is how all OSs start. We all should of known going in, but it is the best multimedia phone still.
The real update is scheduled for later this year and is called mango. Until then consider the os have done.
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Well this is bull****, this os is ****ing half built it seems like, really disappointed in ms how they handled this.
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Do you actually understand that this "half built os" is only couple of months old? it's not even mid january yet and people are complaining about the january update!!
Im pretty sure this OS is fully built.
It could use some more features, but the OS is fully built.
WP7 is a cake fresh out of the oven. We just need to add the sprinkles. And I'm a man who loves his sprinkles....
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Im pretty sure this OS is fully built.
It could use some more features, but the OS is fully built.
WP7 is a cake fresh out of the oven. We just need to add the sprinkles. And I'm a man who loves his sprinkles....
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Well said sir, well said
MarcMaiden said:
Im pretty sure this OS is fully built.
It could use some more features, but the OS is fully built.
WP7 is a cake fresh out of the oven. We just need to add the sprinkles. And I'm a man who loves his sprinkles....
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best way to put it. need some cream cheese frosting. perhaps mango creen cheese frosting. damn. I need to bake a cake, now im hungry
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Do you actually understand that this "half built os" is only couple of months old? it's not even mid january yet and people are complaining about the january update!!
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welcome on this forum ,LOL or do you have to welcome me on this forum
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People are quoting this supposed "mango" update info with no official announcement, just as some did for the supposed "january update that will make WP7 seem like WP8" if it doesnt materialise even more moaning will start. We should stick to what has been officially announced to avoid the inevitable MS bashing that will commence if they dont deliver the "massive" update rumours are claiming.
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best way to put it. need some cream cheese frosting. perhaps mango creen cheese frosting. damn. I need to bake a cake, now im hungry
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It defiantly needs something. I noticed in the past 2-3 weeks my phone has been acting different. Two things I noticed was when I go through my pictures the picture does not fill the whole screen, there is a black space at the bottom maybe a 5th of the screen is now black flipping throught pictures. One more thing was when playing music, when I switch the song i hear a loud noise, like a part of a song maybe half a second gets played very loud but not distinguishable what it was. This happening to anyone else? Sorry if it was a run on a little.
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If you look HERE you'll see they have OFFICIALLY announced the update - just not the exact date!
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People are quoting this supposed "mango" update info with no official announcement, just as some did for the supposed "january update that will make WP7 seem like WP8" if it doesnt materialise even more moaning will start. We should stick to what has been officially announced to avoid the inevitable MS bashing that will commence if they dont deliver the "massive" update rumours are claiming.
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just do what I did, sell your crappy wp7 and get an Android....
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just do what I did, sell your crappy wp7 and get an Android....
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I just don't get this 'crappy' label? I have an HD2 (the best WM6.5 phone there is) and the HD7. Now agreed the HD7 is lacking a few features and GPS software etc BUT... and I have to stress this BUT.... it is only a few months old. Many users have only just got their WP unit and are moaning already!
It's absolutely pathetic. There are enough websites out there that will tell you everything about the WP phones - if you don't read them then if you don't like the phones it's your own fault! People go on about the iPhone being bug free and amazing - well that's taken years and it's hardly bug free (several of my mates installed the latest update and lost EVERYTHING off their phones when it bricked them!) - plus how great Android is... well that is wrong - it may be good (I love it on my HD2) but it is riddled with problems, slow down, programs that crash it etc....
If you don't like the WP OS then change your phone - the rest of us will wait a while for MS to give us updates and improve what is already a great mobile device!
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welcome on this forum ,LOL or do you have to welcome me on this forum
joins in 2005 and first post in 2011
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well buddy, english isn't my first language, so that's why i don"t want to comment on every topic
Paul Nur said:
Well this is bull****, this os is ****ing half built it seems like, really disappointed in ms how they handled this.
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Now you know how I felt about a month ago when MS announced the Aug/Sep massive update. And why my HD7...aka DesireHD7...is waiting for an Android ROM.
I put no trust or stock in MS. They aren't about consumer satisfaction. And they don't have the slightest concern about satisfying consumers.
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just do what I did, sell your crappy wp7 and get an Android....
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Crappy?? enjoy your time rooting and hacking your android device.. maybe one day you'll have time to actually use your phone for something useful ;-)
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It defiantly needs something. I noticed in the past 2-3 weeks my phone has been acting different. Two things I noticed was when I go through my pictures the picture does not fill the whole screen, there is a black space at the bottom maybe a 5th of the screen is now black flipping throught pictures. One more thing was when playing music, when I switch the song i hear a loud noise, like a part of a song maybe half a second gets played very loud but not distinguishable what it was. This happening to anyone else? Sorry if it was a run on a little.
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It's MS removing or disabling stuff, to make a supposed update more apparent and liked. Kinda like a car lot putting on a sale of 10% off the entire stock. But they previously increased the cost 15%.
I used to be able to add email folders, and added about three. Now I can't.
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Crappy?? enjoy your time rooting and hacking your android device.. maybe one day you'll have time to actually use your phone for something useful ;-)
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Like how I'm using my HD2 with a DesireHD ROM...or any other Android version I desire. Works well and is reliable. My DesireHD7 will be even better with Android.
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-to-officially-support-homebrew-developments-on-windows-phone-7
Microsoft will soon support homebrew developments on their Windows Phone 7 platform following two days of meetings with developers behind the ChevronWP7 unlocking tool.
Late last year following the release of Windows Phone 7, a team of developers uncovered a bug which allowed those with a device running the operating system to install applications on their device without using Microsoft's application store, dubbed the Marketplace.
It made headlines as technology enthusiasts fought over whether the release of the unlocking tool, ChevronWP7, was a good idea to enable freedom on the platform or if it was a bad idea, encouraging jailbreaking and piracy.
However the team behind the software were soon contacted by Microsoft's Brandon Watson, Director of Developer Experience for Windows Phone 7, who took a keen interest in the matter and encouraged the developers to cease offering the tool while discussions about ChevronWP7's future continued between Microsoft and the developers.
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The details of how this all is going to work has not been finalized. But at least we know it's coming.
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http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-to-officially-support-homebrew-developments-on-windows-phone-7
The details of how this all is going to work has not been finalized. But at least we know it's coming.
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the january update was coming too. tell me when it comes, otherwise bull****.
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the january update was coming too. tell me when it comes, otherwise bull****.
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The 'January' update IS coming:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-info.aspx
It's just that the 'when' is unknown. Hell, there is still a week left in January so it could still drop in time. Otherwise it'll probably be sometime in February, maybe just waiting until MWC?
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The 'January' update IS coming:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-info.aspx
It's just that the 'when' is unknown. Hell, there is still a week left in January so it could still drop in time. Otherwise it'll probably be sometime in February, maybe just waiting until MWC?
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Definitely very promising indications. It will be the best of both worlds, a secure and sandboxed marketplace plus freedom to install apps normally without restriction.
If they also give us a file system, in addition to the updates planned for this year, we'll have a decent OS on our hands.
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the january update was coming too. tell me when it comes, otherwise bull****.
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MS never said the update was coming in January.
This is great news
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Desperate times cause for desperate measures. Some interest is better than none, I guess.
I recommend Microsoft to implement an "Advanced" tab in the Zune software to dev-unlock phones for users, but it should come with agreements, warnings and such to prevent regular users from attempting...
Or, they could add a new tier of developer accounts for free, so users like XDA-devs would be able to unlock their phones.
The problem with the current dev accounts is that even if you sign up and pay, you still have to submit a US taxt form, etc. AND you do not get verified until you submit your first app, which is kind of ridiculous (at least that is how it works for DreakSpark accounts).
I really hope Microsoft follows up on whatever promise they gave ChevronWP7 devs...
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MS never said the update was coming in January.
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Yes.... maybe Feb, March or April.... who know????
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Yes.... maybe Feb, March or April.... who know????
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Well, MS did said update will be in january.
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Well, MS did said update will be in january.
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I thought they said "early 2011" or "Q1 2011" or somesuch. Don't remember them specifying a month. My bet goes on a post-MWC release.
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The 'January' update IS coming:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-info.aspx
It's just that the 'when' is unknown. Hell, there is still a week left in January so it could still drop in time. Otherwise it'll probably be sometime in February, maybe just waiting until MWC?
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According to MS, the update is ready, just trying to get the carrier kinks worked out. I'm guessing 1st week of feb for this update and maybe another small update announced at mwc.
Small update announcement and new handsets at MWC.
hello i'm an android user but i have great news for you. Microsoft released this kb article and this means that the first update for WP7 is almost here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2484484/en-us
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hello i'm an android user but i have great news for you. Microsoft released this kb article and this means that the first update for WP7 is almost here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2484484/en-us
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Old news, old... It was released some time ago...
yea it is a few days old, but thanks for sharing with us though and please keep us informed of anything more you may find. appreciate you taking the step to come and share with us, even if you aren't a windows phone user.
Yeah despite this being old, this is a big indication we could see the update between tomorrow and next week. I'm sure Microsoft wants to get the update out before or during MWC so they have something worthwhile to present there.
Also, I'm expecting details of that second update at the MIX 11 developers conference this year. After all, MS introduced WP7 at MWC and then went into more detail when MIX came around.
Perhaps 7th Feb
Ive read that the update will be out on the 7th Feb.
I wouldn't count on Feb. 7 date, it may happen but don't get your hopes up. This rumour reminds me of the MS CES tablet stuff that never really happened. The original blog that reported Feb. 7 didn't provide any proof did they?
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Ive read that the update will be out on the 7th Feb.
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AFAIK, this is correct, but it's predicted for the "week of the 7th" so it could be any time next week. Can confirm the update is with carriers around the world.
Can I ask a possibly dumb question? Why is everyone so pumped for an update?
It's just, I know it'll speed up apps loading, and add copy+paste, etc. But I mean, even without it, wp7 is such a smooth OS, I just don't know what the rush is in hoping for an "OMG UPDATEZZ!!!1!111". It's not like wp7 is broken right now, and only an update will make it useable. And honestly I've only needed to use copy/paste once, and even then it wasn't a big deal...
I suspect everyone will be quite disappointed by the update...
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sure haven't said:
Can I ask a possibly dumb question? Why is everyone so pumped for an update?
It's just, I know it'll speed up apps loading, and add copy+paste, etc. But I mean, even without it, wp7 is such a smooth OS, I just don't know what the rush is in hoping for an "OMG UPDATEZZ!!!1!111". It's not like wp7 is broken right now, and only an update will make it useable. And honestly I've only needed to use copy/paste once, and even then it wasn't a big deal...
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C & P alone is a big deal, but maybe it will fix other broken aspects of the OS like random hard-resets, messed up market, etc..
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landwomble said:
I suspect everyone will be quite disappointed by the update...
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I suspect that none of the features/fixes in the update, by themselves or taken as a whole, will be a "big deal". For many of us, this is a test of Microsofts credibility and support for this OS. The real question is, are they going to become responsive to their user base and make serious attempts to keep current with their competition? Most of us are waiting to see how often they release updates and whether the contents of those updates are valuable to their user base. We won't know that for a few updates I am sure.
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messed up market, etc..
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You know what, yeah I can see that. The marketplace freezing is verrrrry annoying. Makes me feel like I'm on 6.5 again.
And this...
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random hard-resets
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...frightens me a little. Haven't heard of that before.
The real signal that the update is coming soon is when the Zune and Mac clients are updated to make backups. That's what I'm most looking forward to. Up until now there's no way to back up text messages, files, or app data and I have a lot of stuff on my phone I'd like to protect.
I use the Samsung Focus. I've never had any Market place issues with freeze ups, Ive certainly never had a random hard reset. I've only wished hard, around 4 times since 11/8/10 that I could copy and paste. I also haven't been able to view 90% of the embedded videos on the web sites Ive visited (Flash?). I want an update.. like 3 weeks ago like the big boys at MS said I would. I want to have enough faith in MS that come next upgrade I feel excited to update my hardware not my OS.
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I use the Samsung Focus. I've never had any Market place issues with freeze ups, Ive certainly never had a random hard reset. I've only wished hard, around 4 times since 11/8/10 that I could copy and paste. I also haven't been able to view 90% of the embedded videos on the web sites Ive visited (Flash?). I want an update.. like 3 weeks ago like the big boys at MS said I would. I want to have enough faith in MS that come next upgrade I feel excited to update my hardware not my OS.
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No lags, no issues with Marketplace, no resets, no freezes, two instances when copy and paste would have been nice, but countless need for Flash. Waiting to see what MS comes through with, and then the frequency of followup updates.
JamesAllen said:
No lags, no issues with Marketplace, no resets, no freezes, two instances when copy and paste would have been nice, but countless need for Flash. Waiting to see what MS comes through with, and then the frequency of followup updates.
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thats primarily up to Adobe.... and now that their development is outsourced to India I don't put too much faith in them...
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thats primarily up to Adobe.... and now that their development is outsourced to India I don't put too much faith in them...
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What's wrong with India?
vetvito said:
What's wrong with India?
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It's more the outsourcing period...
I need update. So many things missing.
Countless c&p lacks, flash..... Eeeeh, it's so annoying.
Marketplace works like crap sometimes - just hangs.
Also some apps are laggy.
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What's wrong with India?
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Nothing wrong with the country, but I've seen several references to how outsourcing to low-cost countries really doesn't lower the development cost...Here in Norway, it seems most of the outsourced projects gets scrapped because they never finish. Might be because it's hard to delegate to people almost on the other side of the world, might be differences in cultures etc etc.
I don't put too much trust in outsourcing at all...unless the management actually spend time with the team.
So microsoft releasing their second online survey on the experience or lack of it on windows phone 7
So rather than ranting here it would be better to send the feedback to MS directly
So heres the link
http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/480470/e01f3a84faf0
Sweet! Gave 'em a piece of me ol' mind.
MartyLK said:
Sweet! Gave 'em a piece of me ol' mind.
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Me too.
I'm fairly forgiving when it comes to Microsoft, but this takes the cake for sure. I urge everyone to rip'em a new one on this survey and I bet you we won't see a 90% plus satisfactory rating next time they release any numbers.
^ wanna make a bet on it
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^ wanna make a bet on it
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LOL
I actually don't think they would manufacture numbers. I am confident that the numbers they reported earlier were real. What will happen now is that they'll simply leave the satisfactory rating out of the press release
evolutionqy7 said:
So microsoft releasing their second online survey on the experience or lack of it on windows phone 7
So rather than ranting here it would be better to send the feedback to MS directly
So heres the link
http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/480470/e01f3a84faf0
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You sure this a new one? The copyright date is 2010 and it has the same questions as the other one
bennyj71 said:
You sure this a new one? The copyright date is 2010 and it has the same questions as the other one
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Ah sure people discover new things over time. And it still contains what would you change and your favorite feature texts box
It has a few changes in it though
i personally don't even think this is an MS survey... wouldn't they use their own systems not some third party to take a survey?
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i personally don't even think this is an MS survey... wouldn't they use their own systems not some third party to take a survey?
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Nope, it's official. Been tweeted by various MSFT employes/teams for a while now. You should probably use this Uri though.
thanks for the link. Biggest gripe is the delays on the updates. When they announced wp7, they promised an aggressive update schedule that would get to all phones around the same time. Still no pre- nodo updates in the usa and apparently nodo has been finished by MS since december and still not released....
Other than that, I do love my phone, just give me the updates you have promised.
And how about updating IE separate of the OS so it doesn't get the carrier run around.
Is it survey from MS ?
If it from MS, here we go..
Did it......!
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I too, ragged about the updates.
I like the phone, but the updates need to come faster. Maybe that is what the ill-fated update to help the update process is supposed to be -- making things easier.
Let's hope so.
The real problem is these sites which incessantly get our hopes up because they want to one-up each other and get the "word" (which turns out to be poppycock) out and announce that they have learned (guessed, or completely fabricated is more like it) the actual update time. Then all us users hope its true and actually get pissed when it isn't.
They are all brainwashers! Believe none of them unless they refer to a Microsoft URL.
Enjoy Windows Phone 7!
-e
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I too, ragged about the updates.
I like the phone, but the updates need to come faster. Maybe that is what the ill-fated update to help the update process is supposed to be -- making things easier.
Let's hope so.
The real problem is these sites which incessantly get our hopes up because they want to one-up each other and get the "word" (which turns out to be poppycock) out and announce that they have learned (guessed, or completely fabricated is more like it) the actual update time. Then all us users hope its true and actually get pissed when it isn't.
They are all brainwashers! Believe none of them unless they refer to a Microsoft URL.
Enjoy Windows Phone 7!
-e
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Remember the infamous link to the Microsoft URL referring to the "january update"? It's all based on real information.
http://twitter.com/#!/joebelfiore
He also says (or links to) a site that shows the first day of fall as 23rd September. I think we all know what he is trying to say
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He also says (or links to) a site that shows the first day of fall as 23rd September. I think we all know what he is trying to say
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And there we go, gettings up our false hopes again.
He also said, "PS - this website shows you the START of fall. Don't jump to conclusions!! http://bit.ly/oKGsJ2." So don't hold your breath.
I still haven't got NoDo on my Omnia 7. I'm sick of waiting!
I wait in silence!
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No we don't.
Awww crap! that means it won't be arriving until AFTER september 23rd... I actually thought Microsoft would release something ahead of schedule but they never like to disappoint us do they.
Today Microsoft has treated its customers like dirt, had many days to say that today was not the day of the update. It's just a shame the company can not say a release date.
Walk to complain that no sales? No one will buy an OS that only has 5 languages in the operating system.
And then to make matters worse go all happy to show TV ads to show MANGO, WTF? And to show new apps with MANGO ....
It's just a shame .... They lost a customer.
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Today Microsoft has treated its customers like dirt, had many days to say that today was not the day of the update. It's just a shame the company can not say a release date.
Walk to complain that no sales? No one will buy an OS that only has 5 languages in the operating system.
And then to make matters worse go all happy to show TV ads to show MANGO, WTF? And to show new apps with MANGO ....
It's just a shame .... They lost a customer.
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It shows the attitude of the company. The customer is the last consideration. You can't expect anything good or satisfying from a company like that. If they can't see the dissatisfaction with what customers they do have, they certainly wouldn't consider anything the customer wants.
It seems like the customer is out of the loop as far as what MS is doing...like the customer isn't even a slight thought in their minds.
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Today Microsoft has treated its customers like dirt, had many days to say that today was not the day of the update. It's just a shame the company can not say a release date.
Walk to complain that no sales? No one will buy an OS that only has 5 languages in the operating system.
And then to make matters worse go all happy to show TV ads to show MANGO, WTF? And to show new apps with MANGO ....
It's just a shame .... They lost a customer.
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Mushroom management courtesy of Microsoft...again!
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Today Microsoft has treated its customers like dirt, had many days to say that today was not the day of the update. It's just a shame the company can not say a release date.
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They never said it was 9/15 so what made you believe it? If I say its coming 9/17, will you believe this and blame MS if they don't deliver it by then?
They don't comment on speculation and they said before that it will come this fall and we still have summer.
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They never said it was 9/15 so what made you believe it? If I say its coming 9/17, will you believe this and blame MS if they don't deliver it by then?
They don't comment on speculation and they said before that it will come this fall and we still have summer.
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I explained this to like 5 people on Youtube earlier, received a lot of hate mail in reply lol people are complete idiots - they will make it widely known when it is getting released.
Microsoft is waiting for the iPhone 5 announcement to release Mango so that everyone pays attention to Windows Phone. Or will they?
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Peew971 said:
Microsoft is waiting for the iPhone 5 announcement to release Mango so that everyone pays attention to Windows Phone. Or will they?
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I don't know what the real deal is with the Mango release date, but intentionally trying to steal attention from Apple by releasing it on the same day (or even the same week) as the iPhone 5 would be an epic mistake. WP7 is nowhere near popular (or even well-known) enough yet to compete with the cacophony of noise that the iPhone 5 will generate. It would be analogous to dropping a small stone into a pond, trying to make more waves than someone else who is dropping a 50 pound boulder.
Iphone5??? More dumbass speculation, MS never once said 9/15... Xda is getting ridiculous, I just follow some tech news sites now, and some Wp7 dev forums here from now on
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MartyLK said:
It shows the attitude of the company. The customer is the last consideration. You can't expect anything good or satisfying from a company like that. If they can't see the dissatisfaction with what customers they do have, they certainly wouldn't consider anything the customer wants.
It seems like the customer is out of the loop as far as what MS is doing...like the customer isn't even a slight thought in their minds.
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I'd like to add to this. They pushed quite hard every developer, in an announcement, to update their app to Mango like NOW or sooner if possible !
The hell I will ! If you push a Mango update, you can't update your NoDo version anymore, forever ! So basically I don't even know when the new features I add will become available to the general public (surely not before 1-2 months for most customers) and at the same time if I find a bug in my current version I won't be able to fix, never again.
So you're asking me once more a leap of faith, even after you provided a disaster of update schedule the last (and only) time around ? You must be kidding me...
Playing hide and seek games and having cryptic (supposedly funny ?) posts with release dates after the mess they did with their first one... doesn't feel right.
State a fixed date, well in advance and honour it
well said my freind..
A lot of good logic in this thread.
To the poster who said "if I say it's the 17th, will you get mad at MS for not releasing it on the 17th?", that isn't what happened. EVERYONE for some reason thought it was the 15th. It wasn't just a few obsessed fans. It was engadget, wpcentral, etc. -everyone-. That was the rumor. And it would take 40 seconds to write a blog post saying otherwise.
Moronic public relations from Microsoft. Rule 1: OPEN COMMUNICATION.
If a rumor gets as substantial as the 15th one did, then you address, and dismiss it. You don't write (like someone above said) a cryptic tweet just to fuel more speculation.
all of yall must be idiots
they never said the 15th but yet yall hold them to it
even if they said go today your carrier would not be ready some still don't have nodo
sure haven't said:
A lot of good logic in this thread.
To the poster who said "if I say it's the 17th, will you get mad at MS for not releasing it on the 17th?", that isn't what happened. EVERYONE for some reason thought it was the 15th. It wasn't just a few obsessed fans. It was engadget, wpcentral, etc. -everyone-. That was the rumor. And it would take 40 seconds to write a blog post saying otherwise.
Moronic public relations from Microsoft. Rule 1: OPEN COMMUNICATION.
If a rumor gets as substantial as the 15th one did, then you address, and dismiss it. You don't write (like someone above said) a cryptic tweet just to fuel more speculation.
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Mostly the reason because everyone thought it was the 15th, is the absolute need for it to come out as soon as possible as it's too late already, the window is closing extremely fast.
The platform is freaking late and having a new major iteration of ios close at hand, contemporary to something that puts WP somewhere around a 2009 OS, well you get the picture...
But ultimately, it's just that being in this sh•••y situation, you would expect they would learn to communicate better with their public. It's not like you're Apple, you're the n.1, you've already made proselytises by the bucket who have never been disappointed by your products...again, this cryptic tweets and no updates make them look arrogant.