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cool and unique things you've done with dash

tell of a special thing/concept (i.e. not incredibly common, or done by 4yr olds) you've done or discovered with your dash. explain in brief but diplomatic terms (not like a 4yrold) I go first
I like wififofum as a network scanner (just introduced to it recently). you can analyze and even map with a triangulation the source of a wifi signal. how's that for useful. dash is a tiny unassuming ppc, but it rules

I put together a ROM from scratch for it... lol

I discovered that in vibrate mode that the dash feels kinda funny in my pocket when someone calls!

I use mine as a portable heater, OC it to 400Mhz and it keeps me warm on theses cold dayz.

Currently my dash does multiple things, its a game machine, a paperweight and a dial up machine all in one!!!

arggh? me feels primitive.
NRGZ28 said:
I put together a ROM from scratch for it... lol
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on a serious note, I must try your brew, chilled. So do you have a lite version yet? Im all for adding stuff maself, although kavana rom has been real good to me, I feel the wind of dashventure calling. oh yes

woa, got the buttons confused. I read on your rom a while ago, is there a lite version done?, because as you brought it up, I didn't make a rom for my phone (the whole arggh thing comes to mind -read comment). *ps. This is a sad exercise in correcting what should of been a reply post and it feels great. ahhh!

Buying it was an amazing move!!! then installing Kavana 080408
Remade By Rickywatt!!
Now S621 is one of the best Smartphones I ever had
Don´t forget to vote here!:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362

orb3000 said:
Buying it was an amazing move!!! then installing Kavana 080408
Remade By Rickywatt!!
Now S621 is one of the best Smartphones I ever had
Don´t forget to vote here!:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
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YESSS! such an oprah moment, I feel the same. Just jiving about the O, but this little work of micron love strums the strings in me. And btw, if any of you know how to use wififofum well (not like a 4yrold), help me. (here's the prize: go to lastfm and type in thiaz itch -I checked the spelling- and enjoy the free downloads. If and when you decide to like this, you're welcome)

I been using my dash for everything from gaming to doing excel spreadsheets etc... so in the long run it is the most useful thing I know... its like my second PC

I cant tell you what I use my Dash for.. its been compartmentalized and made above top secret

Bupahs said:
I cant tell you what I use my Dash for.. its been compartmentalized and made above top secret
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LoL........NOT!!!!!!!!!!

johnnylavah said:
LoL........NOT!!!!!!!!!!
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lol.. but what if

i liked my HTC S620 on wm5 but i started to really love it since i've installed offecial wm6 and more after installing wm6.1 by the great kavana , but i really hate its gay battery life .
i recently started to use it to prove that he can't be relied on when it comes to hard work , unless you walk with another "2" backup batteries

gothicrulezz said:
i liked my HTC S620 on wm5 but i started to really love it since i've installed offecial wm6 and more after installing wm6.1 by the great kavana , but i really hate its gay battery life .
i recently started to use it to prove that he can't be relied on when it comes to hard work , unless you walk with another "2" backup batteries
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2 Words = Extended Battery

I use mine all the time when my G1 pisses me off to the point where I just need reliability.
I guess my answer would be "I use it as a phone" (which in today's society is actually rare )

gospeed.racer said:
I use mine all the time when my G1 pisses me off to the point where I just need reliability.
I guess my answer would be "I use it as a phone" (which in today's society is actually rare )
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You use the dash as a phone, whats wrong with you man? lol i have to admit when i pick up my dash i sigh a little bit. The best phone ive ever had including the g1. Gaming on dash is awesome, but its also a really reliable phone. Even if i had an iphone, g1 and diamond i wouldnt part with it!

cool
I'll tell you what I've done that's cool and unique, maybe even amazing, is I have turned my dash into my girlfriend (my wife's words)she says between modding and the forum, I spend as much time with the phone as I do with her. hehe

roloracer said:
I'll tell you what I've done that's cool and unique, maybe even amazing, is I have turned my dash into my girlfriend (my wife's words)she says between modding and the forum, I spend as much time with the phone as I do with her. hehe
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so you should tell her to get one too and do it together
Mine is an original nintendo gaming machine, an mp3 player, eamil, and believe it or not, a phone

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coop3422 said:
so you should tell her to get one too and do it together
Mine is an original nintendo gaming machine, an mp3 player, eamil, and believe it or not, a phone
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I would, but she want's a g1, I'm telling her to wait a little to see what tmobile picks up from the HTC 2009 lineup.

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so excited that i have got my rhodium i decided to start a thread so people who share my excitement when they 1st got theirs can post! hope the moderator don't close me down.................
it is beautiful and so slim considering what is under the hood! been trying that dual speakerphone system and it works well. tried using in noisy environment and it auto fades out surrounding noise so you can hear what other person is saying! still cant stop the wind blowing into speakers though!
interesting to see what battery life will be on this thing as that could be its achiles heel! added coreplayer via cab and it works well. videos look stunning! the tilt screen is much stiffer so it don't flop about like on my old kaiser/tilt. used to think the screen on my kaiser would fall off at anytime! it would be nice if people posted the their initial feelings of the device wen 1st received and thoughts after a few days of use. i will be!
thanks all

Keep us posted

waiting for mine shall have it tommorow will post my firt initial thoghts on the phone ad then long term use ie battrey life.

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Keep us posted
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will do. still putting it through its paces as we speak. no freezes or untimely reboots as yet. added a few apps like tomtom etc. works well. can't get over how beautiful it looks and i am sure everyone who gets one will be happy. can't wait for all the customisations that will be available on here for this device. so exciting!

awesome and congrats. Mine should be here tomorrow i hope DHL is on time What onscreen keyboards dose it have? I am really wanting portrait suretype(compact qwerty) for the times i dont use the HW keyboard

ratchetjaw said:
awesome and congrats. Mine should be here tomorrow i hope DHL is on time What onscreen keyboards dose it have? I am really wanting portrait suretype(compact qwerty) for the times i dont use the HW keyboard
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got that ez input keyboard on screen. no sure type or t9 i'm afraid! still the ez input keyboard works well and fully compatible with hardware keypad

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got that ez input keyboard on screen. no sure type or t9 i'm afraid! still the ez input keyboard works well and fully compatible with hardware keypad
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oh ok thanks for the info. I am gonna try and hunt down a suretype cab file that will work with it. It works the best for me for one handed texting

ratchetjaw said:
oh ok thanks for the info. I am gonna try and hunt down a suretype cab file that will work with it. It works the best for me for one handed texting
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if you haven't already check out this very good review on here. it will wet your appetite even more. real in depth review
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=1139&p=1

shingers5 said:
if you haven't already check out this very good review on here. it will wet your appetite even more. real in depth review
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=1139&p=1
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Ok thanks i have seen his unboxing and hardware review gonna check this out. Dang DHL site says clearance delay for the past 2 days. I called and they say it cleared over the weekend and will be here by 5 tomorrow. Dang sites not updated. I wish it were fedex but oh well

ratchetjaw said:
Ok thanks i have seen his unboxing and hardware review gonna check this out. Dang DHL site says clearance delay for the past 2 days. I called and they say it cleared over the weekend and will be here by 5 tomorrow. Dang sites not updated. I wish it were fedex but oh well
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it will be worth it when you do get it! its a thing of beauty! let us know how you felt through your unboxing and initial usage!

shingers5 said:
it will be worth it when you do get it! its a thing of beauty! let us know how you felt through your unboxing and initial usage!
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ok will do, i am currently using a Telstra touch HD so i figuring this one is gonna be that plus an awesome keyboard for the win I am so excited feel like a little kid lol

ratchetjaw said:
ok will do, i am currently using a Telstra touch HD so i figuring this one is gonna be that plus an awesome keyboard for the win I am so excited feel like a little kid lol
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well i guess this is one of the few times we are allowed to feel like that! after initial 12 hr charge i am gonna put battery through its paces! seems to be an issue from some reviews on web. will see tomorrow and update! can't believe that MS hasn't updated WMP but i got coreplayer and thats a beast!

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well i guess this is one of the few times we are allowed to feel like that! after initial 12 hr charge i am gonna put battery through its paces! seems to be an issue from some reviews on web. will see tomorrow and update! can't believe that MS hasn't updated WMP but i got coreplayer and thats a beast!
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Oh ok sweet yeah post on the battery if you would. So WMP doesnt play movies well? On my touch hd it seemed to play better than coreplayer for me for some reason. I cant wait to try it out tomorrow How is the speaker volume? for music and ringtones

shingers5 said:
well i guess this is one of the few times we are allowed to feel like that! after initial 12 hr charge i am gonna put battery through its paces! seems to be an issue from some reviews on web. will see tomorrow and update! can't believe that MS hasn't updated WMP but i got coreplayer and thats a beast!
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Keep in mind that it takes like 3 full battery uses and reloads to get the battery on its best.

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Keep in mind that it takes like 3 full battery uses and reloads to get the battery on its best.
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yeah i know that but cheers for pointing out. getting its ass kicked today to see how it holds up after 1st charging cycle. gave it overnight charge - 12hrs. really hope battery holds up as this could be the only thing that could be its undoing. however saying that, when all the cooks start building rhodium roms etc i am sure there will be things in place to aid battery life!

few other things
no spare stylus. searched whole box and nothing.................
slide out mechanism is a bit stiff for my liking but like the sturdier feel to tilt screen. not sure bout purple background and do like the t-mobile look. that will be my 1st enhancement changing clocks and penguin to t-mobile rhodium look! will post screenshots of how it looks once done! very quick scrolling and smooth accross tabs. mem usage 50% as standard. music playback is more than suitable and in my opinion quite good! FINGERPRINT magnet my god! ugh hate that but will have to live with it! screen protector in box but i can never apply without getting bubbles underneath! big fingers/hands. i find tilt suitable enough for watching vids from my desk or table at home! can't wait to see WM6.5 on this machine
edit: still have the issue where i have to untick proxy in connections to get certain web apps working on t-mobile. for example messenger! not a big prob and doesn't slow down connection speed!

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yeah i know that but cheers for pointing out. getting its ass kicked today to see how it holds up after 1st charging cycle. gave it overnight charge - 12hrs. really hope battery holds up as this could be the only thing that could be its undoing. however saying that, when all the cooks start building rhodium roms etc i am sure there will be things in place to aid battery life!
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I'm hanging on your lips. Don't know if that's a right expression. It dutch translated, that I am waiting eagerly for your findings

quarintus said:
I'm hanging on your lips. Don't know if that's a right expression. It dutch translated, that I am waiting eagerly for your findings
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no worries! posted a few more observations above. must have been typing at same time as you!

finger menu is there and almost instant. synced my hotmail and gmail accounts with no issues. camera is 3 mgp and very adequate in good light conditions. that high res screen makes all the difference. video recording is awesome dude, best performance on any HTC deivice IMHO! call quality is great and very crisp. tv out is there but alas no cable and haven't searched to see if available yet!

multemidia
opera 9.5 there and works well but no flash support. IE is there but older version not new version. flash i however supported in IE. will update IE with cab i have for new version. been bashing since morning from bout 8.30am and till 3 bars left in battery.

Remote browsing? (and other stuffs and fluffs)

Hello ladies, gents, killer droids and aliens.
A somewhat long time lurker finally decided to register myself
Anyway, it seems quite likely that I'll pull trigger on one Desirable droid in a near future.
But I have to know couple of things before I dive in head first into the world of droids.
So if any of you could answer those questions, it would be... in the word of Borat, "Very nice" Here goes nothing!
1. Is it possible to browse files in my PCs on my LAN via WLAN from desire?
2. If so, is it possible to stream files (mp3s and avi most likely) from there to be played on desire?
3. Lastly, can desire handle WPA2-PSK?
Cheers!

In answer to your first two, yes (using EStrongs File Explorer, although I'm sure other apps will do it too) and a hesitant yes. Hesitant because I use the Subsonic media server to do just that but that might not be what you're after. Not sure if anything else can do it as I haven't tried. Subsonic is incredibly easy to set up though, and a one-time donation gives you Android streaming for life.
Not sure about the third as my home uses standard WPA for legacy reasons. I'd be extremely surprised if it didn't though.

Hey thanks for a quick answer!
Hm that subsonic seems like it's only meant for music and not for movies and such hmm...
Well the reason I asked about WPA2 is that my other handhelds such as DS and PSP aren't supporting it in the first place (which is a kind of bummer, but I will never lower security for play stuff online in any case)

Yes to number 3.. i use that encryption at home and the desire connects no problem...
The Lurking Droid said:
Hello ladies, gents, killer droids and aliens.
A somewhat long time lurker finally decided to register myself
Anyway, it seems quite likely that I'll pull trigger on one Desirable droid in a near future.
But I have to know couple of things before I dive in head first into the world of droids.
So if any of you could answer those questions, it would be... in the word of Borat, "Very nice" Here goes nothing!
1. Is it possible to browse files in my PCs on my LAN via WLAN from desire?
2. If so, is it possible to stream files (mp3s and avi most likely) from there to be played on desire?
3. Lastly, can desire handle WPA2-PSK?
Cheers!
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Ah yes, sorry, Subsonic is just for music, but it does that music very well!
Can't help with video streaming, but it wouldn't surprise me to see something that does it. There's already the Youtube and Beebplayer apps so it can't be hard to do the same for LAN based videos.

Thanks micks & Noiz!
Well, you can come quite far with couple of gigs of music (besides I already have iPod nano) but TV series and such are bit bigger than mp3s you know? So I wasn't all that sure if I wanted to transfer everything to the phone.
BTW are there any competent program which can run divx without any hitch? or is the "convert the avi file to something else" the way to go?

ATM converting to mp4 with x264 is the way to go. unfortunately.

I recall reading something about somthing, like "Divx playback out of the box" and that kind of fluff regarding Desire before...
Was it pure 100% BS then? .... sigh ....

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I recall reading something about somthing, like "Divx playback out of the box" and that kind of fluff regarding Desire before...
Was it pure 100% BS then? .... sigh ....
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BS? No.
Available out of the box? No.
Coming "soon" to an OTA update near you? Yes.

"soon" IE.... next year?
I've seen the slow update on the Hero, so I won't be holdning my breath on this.
(The very reason I didn't go for Hero in the first place, painfully slow updates)

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"soon" IE.... next year?
I've seen the slow update on the Hero, so I won't be holdning my breath on this.
(The very reason I didn't go for Hero in the first place, painfully slow updates)
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I really wish I could be more specific, but "soon" is as close as it gets.. Hence putting it in quotes.
For now, I'd convert using something like Handbrake. Not an ideal solution as you always lose some of the quality when cross converting, but it's the best solution for the moment.

Yeah I understand that, that's the reason I asked "next year?"
Well, I guess the quality itself won't bother me, after all, it's just on 3.7inch screen.
The main "trouble" as I see is that, it takes such tremendious time converting files.
I mean it takes more time to convert file than show itself you know?
The reason I stopped watching stuff on my PSP, it just took way too much time.

the one worry i'd have about streaming is data usuage... if your on 3g etc.. if you have wi fi handy then great.. but i'd imagine streaming over 3g would eat data quite quickly

Oh I was talking about while I'm on my own network.
So no worries there. Thank you for your concern tho.
But your post reminds of me something, but is kinda OT, should I start a new thread about that, or should I keep going here?

Since nobody's protesting, I'll just go ahead and ask it.
I feel a bit torned about how much data plan I'll be using.
I will be checking and sending around 10 mails avg a day, maybe some net surfing (nothing heavy duty) maybe couple of youtube vids, no twitter or facebook.
Will 500mb/month suffice or will I use it up within couple of days? LOL
I srsly have no idea, so any insight will be appreciated!

well i have 50 megs per day (dont ask irish plans are $hite) actually its a pay as you go contract.. 50 megs a day for 99 cents.. never go over that to be honest.. i have email client on and browse the web a bit.. and market place.. wouldnt watch video etc or do streaming unless i'm on wireless network... i think unless your doing streaming or sending large emails you'd do well to use 500 in a month.. i know guys who are on 250mb for a month and they say it doesnt them fine..
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Since nobody's protesting, I'll just go ahead and ask it.
I feel a bit torned about how much data plan I'll be using.
I will be checking and sending around 10 mails avg a day, maybe some net surfing (nothing heavy duty) maybe couple of youtube vids, no twitter or facebook.
Will 500mb/month suffice or will I use it up within couple of days? LOL
I srsly have no idea, so any insight will be appreciated!
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The Lurking Droid said:
Since nobody's protesting, I'll just go ahead and ask it.
I feel a bit torned about how much data plan I'll be using.
I will be checking and sending around 10 mails avg a day, maybe some net surfing (nothing heavy duty) maybe couple of youtube vids, no twitter or facebook.
Will 500mb/month suffice or will I use it up within couple of days? LOL
I srsly have no idea, so any insight will be appreciated!
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I think it really depends on your usage. I suggest a data monitoring app such as 3G Watchdog. Run it for a few days and it'll give you a good guage as to how much data you're using.

Well micks, when you think about it you have 50mb a day!
that's total sum of 1.4 gig per month!
So it's like 3 times more than I was thinking about after all.
Fatman, true, however, the provider here are sneaky bunch who allows custmers upgrade on plan, but not downgrade!
Choises choises, just way too many choises tbh.
I have to decide if I gonna go for Legend or Desire in the first place.
I mean Legend got some seriously sexy outershell! But desire shines with raw poweeeerrr.
I'm just asking myself why HTC didn't make legend shell with desire internals!

Just ordered my Desire, what first

Hi all, I have just ordered my Desire and it gets delivered Tuesday whats the first thing I should do/install when turing my Desire on ?

Make a phone call? Send a text? Read the ****in forum?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

that depends on quite a lot of things.... what do you want to do with it?, do you want to root it? what firmware it has when you get it will determine how you do that.

put it on charge for 12 hours BEFORE even turning it on!!!!! Then the battery will be much much better, I didnt do it the first time, 1 hour with heavy use, now, with a new (official HTC Desire) battery it is 2 days, don't know if its just me, but be sure to read the forum and the leaflets you get with the phone!!

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that depends on quite a lot of things.... what do you want to do with it?, do you want to root it? what firmware it has when you get it will determine how you do that.
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the phone is going to be on 3UK and have android 2.1 can I flash it to 2.2 ?

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Make a phone call? Send a text? Read the ****in forum?
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This is a tossers response and not indicative of the normal people on here.
What to do first? Well its really dependant on what you like to do. Me personally would straight away try to get it on Froyo followed by trying to get Music Junk installed and all my google account set up so that my contacts are all stored in the cloud as opposed to on the phone.
Rooting is OK but apart from backing up has few benefits tbh.
I dont know if you have used android before but there are some really crap apps out there that promise the world and deliver nothing so I suggest "obtaining" a copy first and if you like it and want to keep it then buy it. Unlike Apple the Market is fairly unregulated and there is a lot of plain lies and sometimes simply variations between the hardware which results in you not getting the software you paid for.
Doubletwist is a nice music app too that has a PC sync Client like itunes.

Short answer: ASTRO File Manager

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put it on charge for 12 hours BEFORE even turning it on!!!!! Then the battery will be much much better, I didnt do it the first time, 1 hour with heavy use, now, with a new (official HTC Desire) battery it is 2 days, don't know if its just me, but be sure to read the forum and the leaflets you get with the phone!!
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I wouldn´t sign this... This "load it one billion hours before use" is an old myth, back from the days of NiMH. You´ve a Li-Ion battery in your phone, so it shouldn´t make any difference how long you load it the first time (by the way, the perfect point of use of a Li-Ion is between 45 - 55 %... at least in PHEV-Batteries)
I would say, the first thing to do is get to know your new super-phone

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I wouldn´t sign this... This "load it one billion hours before use" is an old myth, back from the days of NiMH. You´ve a Li-Ion battery in your phone, so it shouldn´t make any difference how long you load it the first time (by the way, the perfect point of use of a Li-Ion is between 45 - 55 %... at least in PIHV-Batteries)
I would say, the first thing to do is get to know your new super-phone
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I agree! This is the case for old tech but not the new Li-Ion gear

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I agree! This is the case for old tech but not the new Li-Ion gear
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I would say it did take a good couple of days for the battery to seem to hold its full charge. I guess it just needed some time to calibrate.
First thing I'd do: go and download Dynamo Kid. I love that game so much <3

steve228uk said:
I would say it did take a good couple of days for the battery to seem to hold its full charge. I guess it just needed some time to calibrate.
First thing I'd do: go and download Dynamo Kid. I love that game so much <3
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downloading Dynamo Kid Now! I love these forums!

Download: Handcent SMS, MSN Talk, Shazam, XDA app, Places Directory and Alchemy.

dont forget midomi and music junk although the latter is hard to find as its soooooooo good

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Download: Handcent SMS, MSN Talk, Shazam, XDA app, Places Directory and Alchemy.
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Shazam <3 Not sure on the MSN Talk though -- I just use eBuddy and I've still yet to share everyone's love of Handcent

Oooh! Download Extended Controls is THE HANDIEST widget I have ever found. It's basically a customisable Power Control widget.
Catch That Bus has saved my bacon so many times catching a bus and it's well worth the cash.
Lookout is great if you lose your phone/have it stolen you can locate it from the site!

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Shazam <3 Not sure on the MSN Talk though -- I just use eBuddy and I've still yet to share everyone's love of Handcent
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LOL Handsent is OK But i agree its nothing special

With the updated Sense UI that comes with android 2.2 I like the default HTC sms application better than Handcent.

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With the updated Sense UI that comes with android 2.2 I like the default HTC sms application better than Handcent.
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I've actually been looking for another app. I HATE the way the input thingy stays at the bottom. I used to hop up and down when typing.

Personally, first thing I'd do is just use the phone. Get used to it and you may find it does everything you need straight out the box!
If, after a week or so, you feel there are parts that can be improved then delve into the Market and/or rooting and see if this can help you. I only use about 4 apps so A2SD isn't needed and I've only rooted to remove the crap I don't want in a ROM to keep the phone as streamlined as possible

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This is a tossers response and not indicative of the normal people on here.
What to do first? Well its really dependant on what you like to do. Me personally would straight away try to get it on Froyo followed by trying to get Music Junk installed and all my google account set up so that my contacts are all stored in the cloud as opposed to on the phone.
Rooting is OK but apart from backing up has few benefits tbh.
I dont know if you have used android before but there are some really crap apps out there that promise the world and deliver nothing so I suggest "obtaining" a copy first and if you like it and want to keep it then buy it. Unlike Apple the Market is fairly unregulated and there is a lot of plain lies and sometimes simply variations between the hardware which results in you not getting the software you paid for.
Doubletwist is a nice music app too that has a PC sync Client like itunes.
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Cheers Guys some very good comments there and the odd pointless one, I have had an HTC Hero for the last year but I have been using the missis old iPhone 3G for the past couple of months, the main problem I found with the Hero was when texting (using Handcent) I kept accidently pressing the wrong letters (so annoying) is this fixed on the Desire, also when browsing the web on the hero (which I do a lot of on my phones) the pages not showing the correct size on the screen I think the iPhone was a lot better for browsing the web compared to the Hero, is this also better on the Desire ?
Is it worth upgrading the ROM on the Desire to an unofficial 2.2 version if so which is the best to upgrade to and how easy is it I had all sorts of problems trying to get Froyo on my Hero I gave up in the end and ordered the Desire I kept getting connection Error 170, couldnt backup the Hero using Ti Backup etc...

Speech to Text

I unfortunately own the dreaded bugged Dell Venue Pro. On the plus side though, I have gotten to experience the amazing WinMo7 OS. I love it. I will stick with it when I move on to the next phone and just avoid the con-artists known as Dell.
With that said, one of the very few things that has let me down with WinMo7 and the Mango update, is the speech to text feature. I find it ridiculously inaccurate. I would say it works at about a 5% success rate and is so far off most of the time it is comical.
I was curious if everyone else is having great success with this feature or if it is just me (could be something with my voice or even could just be another bug with the Venue Pro Microphone). Would like to hear how the feature is working for everyone else. Thanks.

English is not my native langauge but it get most of my speech correct. So I have no problem with it.

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I unfortunately own the dreaded bugged Dell Venue Pro. On the plus side though, I have gotten to experience the amazing WinMo7 OS. I love it. I will stick with it when I move on to the next phone and just avoid the con-artists known as Dell.
With that said, one of the very few things that has let me down with WinMo7 and the Mango update, is the speech to text feature. I find it ridiculously inaccurate. I would say it works at about a 5% success rate and is so far off most of the time it is comical.
I was curious if everyone else is having great success with this feature or if it is just me (could be something with my voice or even could just be another bug with the Venue Pro Microphone). Would like to hear how the feature is working for everyone else. Thanks.
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First of all, as a sidenote, it's Windows Phone, not Windows Mobile. Anyways, text to speech worked pretty well the few times I used it. I noticed that the more clear I speak, the better it recognizes what I say. So no dialects, no mumbling.. I barely use it since I couldn't figure out how to use punctuation so it's kinda useless for me.

i was very excited about this at first, until I ran into the same problem. i keep using it occasionally, hoping it will get it right this time... but anything over 2 or 3 words and it always messes something up. i'm even sure to speak slowly and clearly. all it needs to do is mess one word up and its pointless. if i have to go in and correct something, that ends up taking longer than had i just typed in the first place.

Don't u mean windows phone. Also the dell venue pro is great with mango update, but that doesn't erase their past. Speech to text works well enough for me. Not sure what ur doing wrong but I don't have the big problems u state
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Yeah... Im not sure what the deal is. I don't have a lisp or anything like that .
Does anyone know if the core of the speech to text is shared with the music recognition feature also? Because that thing is buggy as hell to. For a while I would try to use it on songs and it would come back empty. I was starting to think that they just didnt have those songs in their library. But, then when a song was unrecognized, I would switch over to Shazam. Shazam would indicate what the song was, and if I clicked the Zune icon with in the app, it would take me right to the song in the Zune marketplace, so obviously the problem wasnt that they didn't 'carry' that song.
Other than when I have to use the phone to have it 'listen' and recognize what is being played or said, the OS is AMAZING.

In all honesty, I find the clearer and more diss-tinkt-lee I speak, the less it picks up.
It'll be something like this:
Me: Text (wife)
Phone: texting (wife)
Me: Want, to, get, pizza, tonight?
Phone: Went you bet pizza to knight. You can say send or start over.
Me: Start over.
Me: Wanna get pizzatonight
Phone: Wanna get pizza tonight
I kid you not, it picks up all the "gonnas" and what not. However for things longer than two sentences, it's a crap shoot.
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My guess is they purposely coded it to pick up more natural sounding speech patterns.

My favorite is when it takes everyday words and censors them because it thinks you drop so 4 letter bombs.
Example:
To Wife: You looked like a million dollars tonight.
What she gets: You looked like a *#&$&#@! tonight.
Goes over real well...

Works for me okay! I like it when its reading texts with "x's" at the end it reads "kisses" its so funny

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In all honesty, I find the clearer and more diss-tinkt-lee I speak, the less it picks up.
It'll be something like this:
Me: Text (wife)
Phone: texting (wife)
Me: Want, to, get, pizza, tonight?
Phone: Went you bet pizza to knight. You can say send or start over.
Me: Start over.
Me: Wanna get pizzatonight
Phone: Wanna get pizza tonight
I kid you not, it picks up all the "gonnas" and what not. However for things longer than two sentences, it's a crap shoot.
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My guess is they purposely coded it to pick up more natural sounding speech patterns.
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I'll have to try this.. I wonder if it's true. I was getting frustrated, it seemed like the more deliberate I was the more it ****ed with me.
and I don't get you guys who are saying 'it works good enough'. it either works or doesn't, no? if it doesn't say what you want then it's useless.

I don't bother with speech to text, but what I miss from the old WM 6.5 was MS Voice Command. You can ask "what time is it?"; "what call did I missed?"; "what appointment do I have?", etc.. It would event alert my upcoming appointment by voice! I don't get why MS scraped that and gave us this handicapped voice thing. Why let Apple get all the credit for siri when Voice Command was able do 80% of that 4 years ago?

Don't give Siri too much credit, it was down for hours today....anywho, mine is 90% accurate...sometimes it amazes me that it picked up what I said, but occasionally it will translate some crazy stuff lol.
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i'm sorry but more testing and this is atrocious.
my last two messages contained 'soon though i'm a' which was turned into 'sonoma'. SERIOUS?
and then 'eleven' it interpreted as 'lesson'. wrong amount of syllables, not even close.

missionsparta said:
My favorite is when it takes everyday words and censors them because it thinks you drop so 4 letter bombs.
Example:
To Wife: You looked like a million dollars tonight.
What she gets: You looked like a *#&$&#@! tonight.
Goes over real well...
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It always makes me chuckle that it actually reads off f*ck and sh*t, etc. Even f*cking reads out loud and clear. However yeah, if I dictate a curse word, it replaces it with comic book swear symbols.
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i'm sorry but more testing and this is atrocious.
my last two messages contained 'soon though i'm a' which was turned into 'sonoma'. SERIOUS?
and then 'eleven' it interpreted as 'lesson'. wrong amount of syllables, not even close.
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"soon though I'm a", what was the rest of your sentence? If it was something like "I'm a be at John's house", then that might be your problem. I wouldn't think that urban slang is coded in, making it think you meant something else.

Essentially, Tellme has gotten pretty good for American/British & Aussie accents.
I'm Chinese & my voice is of a higher pitch so Tellme only got it right 50% & assuming the Auto-gain on the Trophy or my Bluetooth headset doesnt attenuate my voice too much.
A Kiwi I know also have the same problem but you know what? It's a lot better now compared to a year ago & the key is to speak naturally.

It's actually working amazingly well for me which is surprising since I have an Australian accent. I find it strange that it's not working too well for you.
Eg, I said 'I'll meet you at the park in 30 minutes but I'll also be stopping for lunch on the way' and it came out as 'I'll meet you at the park in 30 minutes but I'll also be stopping for lunch on my way'. I actually said this quickly (normal conversation speed), and it came out almost perfect. Even with the error (if you could even call it that) the sentence still made perfect sense..

I've found that the slower and clearer i speak the worse it is.
If i just speak normaly to it, it gets it pretty good.

i wonder if this is the issue for me?
are the phone sold with an accent filter?
I'm an Aussie but i live in the UK and i bought my mobile through O2. is there a way to tell the phone to "listen" for an Aussie accent?

I don't think we need something like Siri on WP7, it's a gimmick imo.

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I don't think we need something like Siri on WP7, it's a gimmick imo.
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it's marketed as a gimmick but there's no doubt its a useful feature. its capabilities are way beyond Tellme where you have to start off with 1 of only 4 keywords to start an action. i'll give it another few years though until anyone puts out a voice system that is truly useful and accurate.
i will give siri extra credit though.. my brother was messing around with it, and even when he gave commands it wouldn't recognize, it would exactly repeat what he said no matter how bizarre or quick he would talk. i'd imagine it must work well for voice to text.