Hello ladies, gents, killer droids and aliens.
A somewhat long time lurker finally decided to register myself
Anyway, it seems quite likely that I'll pull trigger on one Desirable droid in a near future.
But I have to know couple of things before I dive in head first into the world of droids.
So if any of you could answer those questions, it would be... in the word of Borat, "Very nice" Here goes nothing!
1. Is it possible to browse files in my PCs on my LAN via WLAN from desire?
2. If so, is it possible to stream files (mp3s and avi most likely) from there to be played on desire?
3. Lastly, can desire handle WPA2-PSK?
Cheers!
In answer to your first two, yes (using EStrongs File Explorer, although I'm sure other apps will do it too) and a hesitant yes. Hesitant because I use the Subsonic media server to do just that but that might not be what you're after. Not sure if anything else can do it as I haven't tried. Subsonic is incredibly easy to set up though, and a one-time donation gives you Android streaming for life.
Not sure about the third as my home uses standard WPA for legacy reasons. I'd be extremely surprised if it didn't though.
Hey thanks for a quick answer!
Hm that subsonic seems like it's only meant for music and not for movies and such hmm...
Well the reason I asked about WPA2 is that my other handhelds such as DS and PSP aren't supporting it in the first place (which is a kind of bummer, but I will never lower security for play stuff online in any case)
Yes to number 3.. i use that encryption at home and the desire connects no problem...
The Lurking Droid said:
Hello ladies, gents, killer droids and aliens.
A somewhat long time lurker finally decided to register myself
Anyway, it seems quite likely that I'll pull trigger on one Desirable droid in a near future.
But I have to know couple of things before I dive in head first into the world of droids.
So if any of you could answer those questions, it would be... in the word of Borat, "Very nice" Here goes nothing!
1. Is it possible to browse files in my PCs on my LAN via WLAN from desire?
2. If so, is it possible to stream files (mp3s and avi most likely) from there to be played on desire?
3. Lastly, can desire handle WPA2-PSK?
Cheers!
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Ah yes, sorry, Subsonic is just for music, but it does that music very well!
Can't help with video streaming, but it wouldn't surprise me to see something that does it. There's already the Youtube and Beebplayer apps so it can't be hard to do the same for LAN based videos.
Thanks micks & Noiz!
Well, you can come quite far with couple of gigs of music (besides I already have iPod nano) but TV series and such are bit bigger than mp3s you know? So I wasn't all that sure if I wanted to transfer everything to the phone.
BTW are there any competent program which can run divx without any hitch? or is the "convert the avi file to something else" the way to go?
ATM converting to mp4 with x264 is the way to go. unfortunately.
I recall reading something about somthing, like "Divx playback out of the box" and that kind of fluff regarding Desire before...
Was it pure 100% BS then? .... sigh ....
The Lurking Droid said:
I recall reading something about somthing, like "Divx playback out of the box" and that kind of fluff regarding Desire before...
Was it pure 100% BS then? .... sigh ....
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BS? No.
Available out of the box? No.
Coming "soon" to an OTA update near you? Yes.
"soon" IE.... next year?
I've seen the slow update on the Hero, so I won't be holdning my breath on this.
(The very reason I didn't go for Hero in the first place, painfully slow updates)
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"soon" IE.... next year?
I've seen the slow update on the Hero, so I won't be holdning my breath on this.
(The very reason I didn't go for Hero in the first place, painfully slow updates)
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I really wish I could be more specific, but "soon" is as close as it gets.. Hence putting it in quotes.
For now, I'd convert using something like Handbrake. Not an ideal solution as you always lose some of the quality when cross converting, but it's the best solution for the moment.
Yeah I understand that, that's the reason I asked "next year?"
Well, I guess the quality itself won't bother me, after all, it's just on 3.7inch screen.
The main "trouble" as I see is that, it takes such tremendious time converting files.
I mean it takes more time to convert file than show itself you know?
The reason I stopped watching stuff on my PSP, it just took way too much time.
the one worry i'd have about streaming is data usuage... if your on 3g etc.. if you have wi fi handy then great.. but i'd imagine streaming over 3g would eat data quite quickly
Oh I was talking about while I'm on my own network.
So no worries there. Thank you for your concern tho.
But your post reminds of me something, but is kinda OT, should I start a new thread about that, or should I keep going here?
Since nobody's protesting, I'll just go ahead and ask it.
I feel a bit torned about how much data plan I'll be using.
I will be checking and sending around 10 mails avg a day, maybe some net surfing (nothing heavy duty) maybe couple of youtube vids, no twitter or facebook.
Will 500mb/month suffice or will I use it up within couple of days? LOL
I srsly have no idea, so any insight will be appreciated!
well i have 50 megs per day (dont ask irish plans are $hite) actually its a pay as you go contract.. 50 megs a day for 99 cents.. never go over that to be honest.. i have email client on and browse the web a bit.. and market place.. wouldnt watch video etc or do streaming unless i'm on wireless network... i think unless your doing streaming or sending large emails you'd do well to use 500 in a month.. i know guys who are on 250mb for a month and they say it doesnt them fine..
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Since nobody's protesting, I'll just go ahead and ask it.
I feel a bit torned about how much data plan I'll be using.
I will be checking and sending around 10 mails avg a day, maybe some net surfing (nothing heavy duty) maybe couple of youtube vids, no twitter or facebook.
Will 500mb/month suffice or will I use it up within couple of days? LOL
I srsly have no idea, so any insight will be appreciated!
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The Lurking Droid said:
Since nobody's protesting, I'll just go ahead and ask it.
I feel a bit torned about how much data plan I'll be using.
I will be checking and sending around 10 mails avg a day, maybe some net surfing (nothing heavy duty) maybe couple of youtube vids, no twitter or facebook.
Will 500mb/month suffice or will I use it up within couple of days? LOL
I srsly have no idea, so any insight will be appreciated!
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I think it really depends on your usage. I suggest a data monitoring app such as 3G Watchdog. Run it for a few days and it'll give you a good guage as to how much data you're using.
Well micks, when you think about it you have 50mb a day!
that's total sum of 1.4 gig per month!
So it's like 3 times more than I was thinking about after all.
Fatman, true, however, the provider here are sneaky bunch who allows custmers upgrade on plan, but not downgrade!
Choises choises, just way too many choises tbh.
I have to decide if I gonna go for Legend or Desire in the first place.
I mean Legend got some seriously sexy outershell! But desire shines with raw poweeeerrr.
I'm just asking myself why HTC didn't make legend shell with desire internals!
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Hi,
I am going to go on contract on this phone for sure!
But I was wondering about pre-ordering from websites.
Firstly if I pre order will I be able to cancel in case I find a better contract.
Also websites such as mobiles.co.uk and mobilephonesdirect.co.uk are they ok websites to buy from because the reviews are quite bad for what I have read but some of them are official retailers for HTC.
For unlimited web - say if you use the internet a lot throughout the day how much GB would you use? How likely are you to meet the 500mb of 1GB allowance?
Finally how have your experiences been and do you have any websites for me to look at?
Thank you
Raminder
I have 1GB allowance on TMobile and have NEVER gone over it.
I was just looking up T-mobile fair usage policy thingy majig! And I saw this section that Android phones get a 3GB allowance. Is this true?
I will be streaming of youtube etc so i do not think 1 GB will be enough!
Thank you
Raminder
Raminder1992 said:
I was just looking up T-mobile fair usage policy thingy majig! And I saw this section that Android phones get a 3GB allowance. Is this true?
I will be streaming of youtube etc so i do not think 1 GB will be enough!
Thank you
Raminder
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No, I only get 1GB
And I always stream from youtube, use spotify WITHOUT playing from hard drive and am on the internet all the time in my Computer Science Lectures lol. Only time I went over is when I used tethering to go on Xbox Live. They didn't do anything, said I was restricted to only web browsing on peak times but i could go on the market and everything fine, it obviously doesn't effect android phones.
I have 1GB as well and never use it all. I’m using YouTube, face book, email (lots of emails) and traffic for my sat nav and some browsing.
Oh and very often I’m using it on my laptop to share the web connection.
Just to backup what the guy above said, I also use it to tether to my laptop when I'm out and I've never gone over it that way, only when I tethered up to the Xbox for Xbox Live.
Thanks guys,
basically what you guys are doing is exactly what i will be doing (in my lessons as well lol)
I have bee searching but there are so many different answers.
Now i am just wondering if I should preorder my desire today! It is just too damn desirable!!!
Hi all, I have just ordered my Desire and it gets delivered Tuesday whats the first thing I should do/install when turing my Desire on ?
Make a phone call? Send a text? Read the ****in forum?
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that depends on quite a lot of things.... what do you want to do with it?, do you want to root it? what firmware it has when you get it will determine how you do that.
put it on charge for 12 hours BEFORE even turning it on!!!!! Then the battery will be much much better, I didnt do it the first time, 1 hour with heavy use, now, with a new (official HTC Desire) battery it is 2 days, don't know if its just me, but be sure to read the forum and the leaflets you get with the phone!!
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that depends on quite a lot of things.... what do you want to do with it?, do you want to root it? what firmware it has when you get it will determine how you do that.
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the phone is going to be on 3UK and have android 2.1 can I flash it to 2.2 ?
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Make a phone call? Send a text? Read the ****in forum?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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This is a tossers response and not indicative of the normal people on here.
What to do first? Well its really dependant on what you like to do. Me personally would straight away try to get it on Froyo followed by trying to get Music Junk installed and all my google account set up so that my contacts are all stored in the cloud as opposed to on the phone.
Rooting is OK but apart from backing up has few benefits tbh.
I dont know if you have used android before but there are some really crap apps out there that promise the world and deliver nothing so I suggest "obtaining" a copy first and if you like it and want to keep it then buy it. Unlike Apple the Market is fairly unregulated and there is a lot of plain lies and sometimes simply variations between the hardware which results in you not getting the software you paid for.
Doubletwist is a nice music app too that has a PC sync Client like itunes.
Short answer: ASTRO File Manager
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put it on charge for 12 hours BEFORE even turning it on!!!!! Then the battery will be much much better, I didnt do it the first time, 1 hour with heavy use, now, with a new (official HTC Desire) battery it is 2 days, don't know if its just me, but be sure to read the forum and the leaflets you get with the phone!!
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I wouldn´t sign this... This "load it one billion hours before use" is an old myth, back from the days of NiMH. You´ve a Li-Ion battery in your phone, so it shouldn´t make any difference how long you load it the first time (by the way, the perfect point of use of a Li-Ion is between 45 - 55 %... at least in PHEV-Batteries)
I would say, the first thing to do is get to know your new super-phone
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I wouldn´t sign this... This "load it one billion hours before use" is an old myth, back from the days of NiMH. You´ve a Li-Ion battery in your phone, so it shouldn´t make any difference how long you load it the first time (by the way, the perfect point of use of a Li-Ion is between 45 - 55 %... at least in PIHV-Batteries)
I would say, the first thing to do is get to know your new super-phone
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I agree! This is the case for old tech but not the new Li-Ion gear
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I agree! This is the case for old tech but not the new Li-Ion gear
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I would say it did take a good couple of days for the battery to seem to hold its full charge. I guess it just needed some time to calibrate.
First thing I'd do: go and download Dynamo Kid. I love that game so much <3
steve228uk said:
I would say it did take a good couple of days for the battery to seem to hold its full charge. I guess it just needed some time to calibrate.
First thing I'd do: go and download Dynamo Kid. I love that game so much <3
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downloading Dynamo Kid Now! I love these forums!
Download: Handcent SMS, MSN Talk, Shazam, XDA app, Places Directory and Alchemy.
dont forget midomi and music junk although the latter is hard to find as its soooooooo good
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Download: Handcent SMS, MSN Talk, Shazam, XDA app, Places Directory and Alchemy.
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Shazam <3 Not sure on the MSN Talk though -- I just use eBuddy and I've still yet to share everyone's love of Handcent
Oooh! Download Extended Controls is THE HANDIEST widget I have ever found. It's basically a customisable Power Control widget.
Catch That Bus has saved my bacon so many times catching a bus and it's well worth the cash.
Lookout is great if you lose your phone/have it stolen you can locate it from the site!
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Shazam <3 Not sure on the MSN Talk though -- I just use eBuddy and I've still yet to share everyone's love of Handcent
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LOL Handsent is OK But i agree its nothing special
With the updated Sense UI that comes with android 2.2 I like the default HTC sms application better than Handcent.
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With the updated Sense UI that comes with android 2.2 I like the default HTC sms application better than Handcent.
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I've actually been looking for another app. I HATE the way the input thingy stays at the bottom. I used to hop up and down when typing.
Personally, first thing I'd do is just use the phone. Get used to it and you may find it does everything you need straight out the box!
If, after a week or so, you feel there are parts that can be improved then delve into the Market and/or rooting and see if this can help you. I only use about 4 apps so A2SD isn't needed and I've only rooted to remove the crap I don't want in a ROM to keep the phone as streamlined as possible
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This is a tossers response and not indicative of the normal people on here.
What to do first? Well its really dependant on what you like to do. Me personally would straight away try to get it on Froyo followed by trying to get Music Junk installed and all my google account set up so that my contacts are all stored in the cloud as opposed to on the phone.
Rooting is OK but apart from backing up has few benefits tbh.
I dont know if you have used android before but there are some really crap apps out there that promise the world and deliver nothing so I suggest "obtaining" a copy first and if you like it and want to keep it then buy it. Unlike Apple the Market is fairly unregulated and there is a lot of plain lies and sometimes simply variations between the hardware which results in you not getting the software you paid for.
Doubletwist is a nice music app too that has a PC sync Client like itunes.
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Cheers Guys some very good comments there and the odd pointless one, I have had an HTC Hero for the last year but I have been using the missis old iPhone 3G for the past couple of months, the main problem I found with the Hero was when texting (using Handcent) I kept accidently pressing the wrong letters (so annoying) is this fixed on the Desire, also when browsing the web on the hero (which I do a lot of on my phones) the pages not showing the correct size on the screen I think the iPhone was a lot better for browsing the web compared to the Hero, is this also better on the Desire ?
Is it worth upgrading the ROM on the Desire to an unofficial 2.2 version if so which is the best to upgrade to and how easy is it I had all sorts of problems trying to get Froyo on my Hero I gave up in the end and ordered the Desire I kept getting connection Error 170, couldnt backup the Hero using Ti Backup etc...
Maybe its just me... but I'm becoming quite bored with my Evo. It doesn't matter what ROM I'm using, I am just getting over Android. Sure it boots fast... but my battery won't last even a full day with heavy usage and its tedious changing them all the time, the touchscreen is way too sensitive at times, and since FroYo, I've had way too many freezes and reboots to count.
I'm honestly ready to jump on the Torch or just go back to using my Bold 2... I could pound the hell out of my Bold 2 and it would still last a day and a half minimum, I rarely, if ever, had it freeze, and it did most things I needed it to.
Am I missing something here? Because Android is turning out to be pretty boring. I hate the fact that I can't have a full desktop replacement like I could on Windows Mobile, I rather dislike having to select one e-mail at a time to delete it, and the customization is just not there...
you had me until you said you'd go back to blackberry.
Boring? Bb may be the most boring thing ever
But yeah maybe android isn't for you if you think you can do most things on your bb.
I like mine still and gingerbread will make it more interesting.
That said it gets stale at times but so did iphone os and web os
All things do. Bb got stale 5 years ago
I said I'd go back to Blackberry for stability purposes... not because its not boring. Plus I wouldn't have to buy another phone... I already own a Curve 8330 I can use on Sprint and my 9700 is on ATT.
Its either that or back to the Mogul or Touch Pro 2... I'd rather shoot myself.
I guess for me it would be more useful if I had a hardware keyboard...
EDIT: I guess I was expecting more... You know full flash is great and all... but without proper 3D acceleration it runs like ****. Same goes for the games on the Evo. 43FPS on Antigen? Are you kidding me? The Evo should absolutely SPANK that game...
Dude, if you like stability, unroot your phone and use stock 2.2. Stock = Stability. Period. Also, how does one get "bored" with a phone? As far as I'm concerned it's a tool you use to make calls, browse web, send texts, etc. Do you ever get "bored" with your laptop or your tv because it does what it's supposed to do? Please.
I hear you and don't totally disagree
Android platform is still young
Maybe windows phone 7 can bring something new along but I doubt our as they are blatantly copying iphone os 3
Its tough to keep pace nowadays with users demands for new stuff. I include myself as one of those users
As far as bb I was questioning why you'd buy the torch but if you are saying just a phone you already have that's a different story
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Dude, if you like stability, unroot your phone and use stock 2.2. Stock = Stability. Period. Also, how does one get "bored" with a phone? As far as I'm concerned it's a tool you use to make calls, browse web, send texts, etc. Do you ever get "bored" with your laptop or your tv because it does what it's supposed to do? Please.
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I do get bored with my TV thanks and my laptop and my desktop can both be upgraded to extend its capabilities. I run multiple operating systems on both machines.
And stock isn't stable. I've seen people ***** about stock just as much, if not more, than rooted. FroYo is just trash.
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I hear you and don't totally disagree
Android platform is still young
Maybe windows phone 7 can bring something new along but I doubt our as they are blatantly copying iphone os 3
Its tough to keep pace nowadays with users demands for new stuff. I include myself as one of those users
As far as bb I was questioning why you'd buy the torch but if you are saying just a phone you already have that's a different story
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I don't have high expectations for WP7. I would love to be proven wrong but I don't even enjoy that particular interface on my Zune...
The Torch is something new and it fixes the main *****es that I had about BlackBerry - boot times and the web browser. Plus ATT offered it to me for 214 even though I only became a customer in January.
On the same token though I think its absolutely appalling that RIM is using the same 624MHz processor that my Bold 2 has and the Bold before it did as well so that would definitely factor into my decision to most likely not purchase the device.
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I do get bored with my TV thanks and my laptop and my desktop can both be upgraded to extend its capabilities. I run multiple operating systems on both machines.
And stock isn't stable. I've seen people ***** about stock just as much, if not more, than rooted. FroYo is just trash.
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Lol I do get ya man I also get bored with my gadgets
Just a nature of the beast
I tried iphone 4 and was bored after a week
Android is new completely to me so I'm still having fun with roms and kernels, oh my
But I'm sure I'll get bored at some point I just hope gingerbread is out by then
I've not had stability issues though barring some mistakes I made as I learned how to properly flash roms
If I can hold on til Gingerbread (provided the Evo has the horsepower to run it considering it has no dedicated graphics processor and Gingerbread recommends it) I might be fine... I guess one of the biggest annoyances for me is the difficulty in finding apps. The Market is a huge mess. On my berry, I search appworld for a term and it searches the description as well plus gives me options to organize by price, popularity, reviews, etc... Unless I am blind, there is no way I can do this with the Market...
Market
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If I can hold on til Gingerbread (provided the Evo has the horsepower to run it considering it has no dedicated graphics processor and Gingerbread recommends it) I might be fine... I guess one of the biggest annoyances for me is the difficulty in finding apps. The Market is a huge mess. On my berry, I search appworld for a term and it searches the description as well plus gives me options to organize by price, popularity, reviews, etc... Unless I am blind, there is no way I can do this with the Market...
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The market definitely sucks
Have you tried app brain
It haas helped me find cool apps more than the market
App Brain?
No I haven't ever even heard of it.
I'm waiting for some real games to come to android too but I'm not that in need since I have my ipad for gaming not to mention my itouch
I do want facebook connected scrabble for android though and bejeweled blitz also with fb connect would alleviate these horrible games I see for android
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If I can hold on til Gingerbread (provided the Evo has the horsepower to run it considering it has no dedicated graphics processor and Gingerbread recommends it) I might be fine... I guess one of the biggest annoyances for me is the difficulty in finding apps. The Market is a huge mess. On my berry, I search appworld for a term and it searches the description as well plus gives me options to organize by price, popularity, reviews, etc... Unless I am blind, there is no way I can do this with the Market...
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The Evo does have a dedicated graphics processor. In fact, the adreno GPU is quite capable for a mobile device. Games just need to be re-written to support it (Nova is an example of this, it used to run like crap, now runs beautifully). Sure it's not as powerful as the SGX series, but it's certainly not that underpowered.
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App Brain?
No I haven't ever even heard of it.
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Find it in market and download it
Its an alternative app store same apps but more easier ways to find them
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Find it in market and download it
Its an alternative app store same apps but more easier ways to find them
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Thank you! THIS is what I was looking for! It uploaded my list of installed apps and recommended new apps to me based on that. FANTASTIC!
I wish they had rep here because I would totally give you rep for that!
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Thank you! THIS is what I was looking for! It uploaded my list of installed apps and recommended new apps to me based on that. FANTASTIC!
I wish they had rep here because I would totally give you rep for that!
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Your welcome and I'm glad to pass on the recommends I myself received when I first got my evo
Its not a flawless app but it beats the heck out of the stock market app
And yeah thee sync feature is sweet
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Your welcome and I'm glad to pass on the recommends I myself received when I first got my evo
Its not a flawless app but it beats the heck out of the stock market app
And yeah thee sync feature is sweet
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I just installed like 20 apps I didn't even know existed - like StumbleUpon, for example, which is apparently a brand new app (less than 50 downloads)
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I just installed like 20 apps I didn't even know existed - like StumbleUpon, for example, which is apparently a brand new app (less than 50 downloads)
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Hope this improves your android experience
The community around thee android platform had really impressed me
Especially on this board!
I honestly don't see how you could possibly get bored... You have roms and kernels to last you days of flashing...
Like gambling? You can play Live Poker.
Like racing? You can play Asphalt
Like reading quotes, books and newspapers? theres an app for that.
Like porn? well who doesn't? There is even an app for that.
Craving some super mario or final fantasy? You have emulators.
Like listening to music? You have pandora and a bunch of other radios...
WTF MORE COULD YOU POSSIBLY WANT? Some people are just never satisfied.
like honestly...I just don't get it. If your having trouble finding a stable Rom try evios latest and use one of kings kernel. Im easily getting 15 hours on a single charge with moderate-heavy usage.
P.S the latest app thats been keeping me busy is Akinator. That sht is crazy!!! the first time I used it I literally dropped my phone.
any tweak for full screen youtube? there are 2 apps in the market please and neither play on full screen on the HD7...
Looks like we need something like 3G Unrestrictor (iPhone app) that fools the phone into thinking it has a wi-fi connection.
Or a setting in the YouTube app that allows you to select high quality.
I assume that, like on the Omnia 7 ,you get full screen video when using wi-fi?
Well that sucks.
well tried the wi-fi route and no luck...
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Well that sucks.
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Dude, you don't even have a WP7 yet you're in every thread commenting gleefully whenever there is negative news. That or informing us of how bad we have it.
Are you just trying to increase comment count?
To the topic, this really needs to be addressed as I found out the hard way while showing my buddies a funny soccer video at the bar. I was ashamed of my phone
lekki said:
Dude, you don't even have a WP7 yet you're in every thread commenting gleefully whenever there is negative news. That or informing us of how bad we have it.
Are you just trying to increase comment count?
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+1. This trolling is getting quite annoying.
Me lady has one, I'm messing around with it daily. Still considering one myself, so eat those apples.
Not my fault if your feelings get hurt so easily. Troll that.
lol here we go the haters again...it was a simple question...the phone is awesome...i can live without it no probs..i thought i may be missing a setting somewhere...
Wow, I figured this was just something at&t did to artificially throttle data usage, but I see that others are getting this, too. Looking forward to when someone nips this little nuisance. There are already easy workarounds to enable HSUPA and to get the phone to prefer 3G instead of kicking down to EDGE just by using the diagnosis code menu, which have made my new toy much more enjoyable. It'll be nice when I can blast out YouTube content on my pretty samoled.
Not YouTube, but some good news
http://mobilitydigest.com/10-enhanc...m_campaign=Feed:+FuzeMobility+(Fuze+Mobility)
This might just be a youtube thing.
I have a couple of apps that stream movie trailers and video podcasts and the the video quality range from acceptable to stunning.
Why does the GSM version only have 16GB of memory? Why can't it at least have a microsd slot???
Even the N1 had a microsd slot and then with NS it was removed, but the phone has 16GB built in. That was ok LAST YEAR..
I want a real upgrade, but I can't upgrade to increased storage (with GN) so I can get rid of my Zune and carry a single device.
Will we wind up with a 32GB GSM version or would it be better just to wait and see what the specs look like on SGS3?
I looked at that phone... it's just way too big. For now I will just enjoy my NS on ICS, but I am thinking about either the SGS2 for my next phone (once it has CM9) or just waiting for the SGS3.
maybe just stop listening to stupid noises, at least on the go? hm.
EcPercy said:
Why does the GSM version only have 16GB of memory? Why can't it at least have a microsd slot???
Even the N1 had a microsd slot and then with NS it was removed, but the phone has 16GB built in. That was ok LAST YEAR..
I want a real upgrade, but I can't upgrade to increased storage (with GN) so I can get rid of my Zune and carry a single device.
Will we wind up with a 32GB GSM version or would it be better just to wait and see what the specs look like on SGS3?
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and then you here rumours of another new one on the way with 64gb ........and it goes on and on and on until you realise that you havent upgraded in ten years waiting for the perfect phone that will be the best one out there for years.
bommel0815 said:
maybe just stop listening to stupid noises, at least on the go? hm.
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LOL!
Well I have 2 hours on the MRT every day + gym 3x a week... I would just like to go from having a phone and dedicated mp3 player to just a phone with all of my music on it.
My Zune.. is nearly 2 years old and has 32GB of storage. You're telling me that a brand new cutting edge phone should be artificially limited to 16GB?
I guess that's what I was getting at. I am at a loss as to why the verizon model has 32GB and the GSM has 16GB. Why even have a 16GB model at all?
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and then you here rumours of another new one on the way with 64gb ........and it goes on and on and on until you realise that you havent upgraded in ten years waiting for the perfect phone that will be the best one out there for years.
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On that note... Why take a step backwards from N1 (My N1 has a 32gb micro sd) to the NS (which I also have) and then stay at the same level with GN?
Maybe I am beating a dead horse, but honestly the GN (other than the screen) doesn't look that appealing because of the storage and the fact that they used the same graphics chip as my NS (slightly overclocked) to drive the huge HD screen. Maybe that doesn't make that big of a difference, but the specs are somewhat of a let down since this is supposed to be setting the bar for other manufacturers with ICS phones.
Right. Why not throw in a 128GB flash storage, just to be on the safe side, right ?
I hate these kind of threads. Do you really need MORE than 16000/5(average track) = 3200 songs on your phone at any time ? Do you need 6400 songs ? Really ? Use Google Music if you really need tens of thousands of tracks with you all the time. Jeez...
Keep in mind that the future IS cloud computing. Don't go bullshitting on me now, it IS KNOWN this is the truth. So if you can't get your act together now, just don't buy THIS particular phone and wait for the phone that is suitable for you and when cloud computing is going to be suitable for you. It's that simple. Rule of thumb: if you're not really keen on buying a 700$ phone (even on contract), because of whatever "defect" from your perspective, just don't buy it.
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Right. Why not throw in a 128GB flash storage, just to be on the safe side, right ?
I hate these kind of threads. Do you really need MORE than 16000/5(average track) = 3200 songs on your phone at any time ? Do you need 6400 songs ? Really ? Use Google Music if you really need tens of thousands of tracks with you all the time. Jeez...
Keep in mind that the future IS cloud computing. Don't go bullshitting on me now, it IS KNOWN this is the truth. So if you can't get your act together now, just don't buy THIS particular phone and wait for the phone that is suitable for you and when cloud computing is going to be suitable for you. It's that simple. Rule of thumb: if you're not really keen on buying a 700$ phone (even on contract), because of whatever "defect" from your perspective, just don't buy it.
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I agree with the first point you made but I totally disagree with cloud computing being the future. It is at times reliable, but it is certainly not something I'd want to risk all the way. I live in New York City where the city is heavily relied on tunnels and subways, service is not always available underground. Because of this, cloud computing for music is a complete fail.
I know you're from Europe, but on the American side. Carriers like to put bandwidth limitations on our 3G/4G and even home broadband. If we exceed a specific limit, we get fined/charged/punished because of it. Another fail for cloud computing. If I have a 720p movie, I would rather have it stored on my hard drive than streaming it from a server.
@OP: Okay, we get your point. We respect your opinion, it would appear that your decision is final. So why don't you go back to the Nexus S forums instead of trying to justify your decision? I carry a media player and phone with me. I know its a huge inconvenience, but at the same time... a lot of battery is being used towards music, so I prefer having it on another device. That's another plus.
zephiK said:
I agree with the first point you made but I totally disagree with cloud computing being the future. It is at times reliable, but it is certainly not something I'd want to risk all the way. I live in New York City where the city is heavily relied on tunnels and subways, service is not always available underground. Because of this, cloud computing for music is a complete fail.
I know you're from Europe, but on the American side. Carriers like to put bandwidth limitations on our 3G/4G and even home broadband. If we exceed a specific limit, we get fined/charged/punished because of it. Another fail for cloud computing. If I have a 720p movie, I would rather have it stored on my hard drive than streaming it from a server.
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As far as reliability goes, I wasn't talking about cloud computing being everywhere right now. IT is out there, but not on global/efficient scale. But in a couple of years, with technology advancements, there won't be any more limitations to spectrum coverage, like in tunnels or areas with no/bad coverage. Also, probably no more bandwidth caps as well. So this IS the future, there's no point in arguing about it. Your point was if it's feasible right now. Well, so and so. You can still rely on Google Music if you want, because it has offline storage. And 3200 offline songs storage capability + streaming when you actually can (not in tunnels), can make your life easier, without the need of 64/128 GB storage. So you can still manage this, if you try; that's what I wanted to say.
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Right. Why not throw in a 128GB flash storage, just to be on the safe side, right ?
I hate these kind of threads. Do you really need MORE than 16000/5(average track) = 3200 songs on your phone at any time ? Do you need 6400 songs ? Really ? Use Google Music if you really need tens of thousands of tracks with you all the time. Jeez...
Keep in mind that the future IS cloud computing. Don't go bullshitting on me now, it IS KNOWN this is the truth. So if you can't get your act together now, just don't buy THIS particular phone and wait for the phone that is suitable for you and when cloud computing is going to be suitable for you. It's that simple. Rule of thumb: if you're not really keen on buying a 700$ phone (even on contract), because of whatever "defect" from your perspective, just don't buy it.
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Glad you dont make the big decisions around here.
Crazy world, ay?
EcPercy said:
On that note... Why take a step backwards from N1 (My N1 has a 32gb micro sd) to the NS (which I also have) and then stay at the same level with GN?
Maybe I am beating a dead horse, but honestly the GN (other than the screen) doesn't look that appealing because of the storage and the fact that they used the same graphics chip as my NS (slightly overclocked) to drive the huge HD screen. Maybe that doesn't make that big of a difference, but the specs are somewhat of a let down since this is supposed to be setting the bar for other manufacturers with ICS phones.
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People seriously need to stop underestimating the Galaxy Nexus hardware, I would dare to say it beats every other phone on the market.
Closest thing would be the iPhone 4S.
I don't know why google didn't make the GSM version 32 gb, but with Google Music you don't need to worry about storage space, when it comes to music at least.
Google Music and an unlimited dataplan works fine, or use spotify.
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Well I have 2 hours on the MRT every day + gym 3x a week...
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Yikes you listen to that much music with an mp3 player everyday? You must have no idea what damage you are doing to your stereocilia. Your threshold of activation of your stereocilia is probably permanently shifted by now. Pretty sad considering you are probably young yet sustained that much damage in a short amount of life span.
I highly suggest you take a college course on the anatomy of the ear and how hearing works. Once you realize how delicate your inner ear is, you won't be f*cking with nature by listening to that much direct ear damaging music.
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Glad you dont make the big decisions around here.
Crazy world, ay?
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That's a very constructive and effective commentary, good job ! I bet mama's very proud of her son's intelligence.
Y'all have to be the most unhelpful bunch I've seen yet. Of course, then again, there's not much to help here.
Maybe OP would be better served with an SGSII, if he needs the microSD slot?
BlackOtaku said:
Y'all have to be the most unhelpful bunch I've seen yet. Of course, then again, there's not much to help here.
Maybe OP would be better served with an SGSII, if he needs the microSD slot?
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What help can we even provide him with?
Why ask this on a forum, Google are more likely to know the answer.
SamsungVibrant said:
Yikes you listen to that much music with an mp3 player everyday? You must have no idea what damage you are doing to your stereocilia. Your threshold of activation of your stereocilia is probably permanently shifted by now. Pretty sad considering you are probably young yet sustained that much damage in a short amount of life span.
I highly suggest you take a college course on the anatomy of the ear and how hearing works. Once you realize how delicate your inner ear is, you won't be f*cking with nature by listening to that much direct ear damaging music.
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Some of us use reasonable listening volumes.
zephiK said:
I agree with the first point you made but I totally disagree with cloud computing being the future. It is at times reliable, but it is certainly not something I'd want to risk all the way. I live in New York City where the city is heavily relied on tunnels and subways, service is not always available underground. Because of this, cloud computing for music is a complete fail.
I know you're from Europe, but on the American side. Carriers like to put bandwidth limitations on our 3G/4G and even home broadband. If we exceed a specific limit, we get fined/charged/punished because of it. Another fail for cloud computing. If I have a 720p movie, I would rather have it stored on my hard drive than streaming it from a server.
@OP: Okay, we get your point. We respect your opinion, it would appear that your decision is final. So why don't you go back to the Nexus S forums instead of trying to justify your decision? I carry a media player and phone with me. I know its a huge inconvenience, but at the same time... a lot of battery is being used towards music, so I prefer having it on another device. That's another plus.
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The point is that if you're out and you don't happen to have a certain song you wanna hear on your phone, you can stream it.
It's not meant to be a total replacement.
look, the gnex is the best fone right now. period. and it will be. till the next nexus. get it and you wont regret. the camera and the display will just blow you away. then you will go to the bathroom and come back and turn it on and the display will blow you away again. wat can i say, it has been happening to me every time i turn it on for the past 4 days! Same as you, storage was the biggest concern for me too. But my music and gameloft games fit fine on it, as far as movies go, i just got a usb otg cable and use my existing usb key/microsd. problem solved. for regular use, i would say 32gb is perfect, but 16gb gets the job done quite well, plus usb otg for vids! and i turnd my fone on again and went "wow"!
Gsm its sexier than lte ...
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dario3040 said:
I don't know why google didn't make the GSM version 32 gb, but with Google Music you don't need to worry about storage space, when it comes to music at least.
Google Music and an unlimited dataplan works fine, or use spotify.
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I would say you are spot on here, but... I mentioned before that I spend 2 hours a day on the MRT. For those in the USA you would better know this as the Subway. The internet just isn't good enough for constant streaming while moving along in the train and we have TONS of people all checking the internet as well so that makes your speed go WAY down even when you are above ground.
Now that my phone (NS) has ICS I can see what kind of data google music is using, but I am a little sceptical that you can use google music and not go over your data limit for the month. I have a 12GB plan for data, but I am also sharing that data with my GT 10.1 and I watch TONS of YT videos while at work.
Now for everyone else. Don't get me wrong. I like google phones. I have owned the N1 and NS. I am ready for a phone upgrade now, but torn. I want the newest google experience phone. I prefer that to any of the UI addons that come from the manufacturers. I HATE touch UX on my GT 10.1 and I can't wait to get rid of it for CM9 (when it is out on my tab). I can wait if 16GB is all we get for storage. Maybe the 16GB version is all that will come out until Samsung gets the initial demand met and then we will see larger version like a 32 and 64GB model. (who knows right?)
My NS is currently sitting at less than 2GB of free space and my old GT10.1 (also 16GB) was sitting at about 1GB free after I put some cbt nuggets on it to watch while I am at work to prepare for a certification exam. I have since gotten a GT 10.1 (32GB) and I am not hurting at all for storage, but this is not practical to use as an MP3 player while working out...
So that's it. I am not dogging the hardware. I am just questioning the storage decision with more and more apps coming out that have extra downloads after installing the initial app you are going to need more and more space.