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Remote browsing? (and other stuffs and fluffs)

Hello ladies, gents, killer droids and aliens.
A somewhat long time lurker finally decided to register myself
Anyway, it seems quite likely that I'll pull trigger on one Desirable droid in a near future.
But I have to know couple of things before I dive in head first into the world of droids.
So if any of you could answer those questions, it would be... in the word of Borat, "Very nice" Here goes nothing!
1. Is it possible to browse files in my PCs on my LAN via WLAN from desire?
2. If so, is it possible to stream files (mp3s and avi most likely) from there to be played on desire?
3. Lastly, can desire handle WPA2-PSK?
Cheers!

In answer to your first two, yes (using EStrongs File Explorer, although I'm sure other apps will do it too) and a hesitant yes. Hesitant because I use the Subsonic media server to do just that but that might not be what you're after. Not sure if anything else can do it as I haven't tried. Subsonic is incredibly easy to set up though, and a one-time donation gives you Android streaming for life.
Not sure about the third as my home uses standard WPA for legacy reasons. I'd be extremely surprised if it didn't though.

Hey thanks for a quick answer!
Hm that subsonic seems like it's only meant for music and not for movies and such hmm...
Well the reason I asked about WPA2 is that my other handhelds such as DS and PSP aren't supporting it in the first place (which is a kind of bummer, but I will never lower security for play stuff online in any case)

Yes to number 3.. i use that encryption at home and the desire connects no problem...
The Lurking Droid said:
Hello ladies, gents, killer droids and aliens.
A somewhat long time lurker finally decided to register myself
Anyway, it seems quite likely that I'll pull trigger on one Desirable droid in a near future.
But I have to know couple of things before I dive in head first into the world of droids.
So if any of you could answer those questions, it would be... in the word of Borat, "Very nice" Here goes nothing!
1. Is it possible to browse files in my PCs on my LAN via WLAN from desire?
2. If so, is it possible to stream files (mp3s and avi most likely) from there to be played on desire?
3. Lastly, can desire handle WPA2-PSK?
Cheers!
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Ah yes, sorry, Subsonic is just for music, but it does that music very well!
Can't help with video streaming, but it wouldn't surprise me to see something that does it. There's already the Youtube and Beebplayer apps so it can't be hard to do the same for LAN based videos.

Thanks micks & Noiz!
Well, you can come quite far with couple of gigs of music (besides I already have iPod nano) but TV series and such are bit bigger than mp3s you know? So I wasn't all that sure if I wanted to transfer everything to the phone.
BTW are there any competent program which can run divx without any hitch? or is the "convert the avi file to something else" the way to go?

ATM converting to mp4 with x264 is the way to go. unfortunately.

I recall reading something about somthing, like "Divx playback out of the box" and that kind of fluff regarding Desire before...
Was it pure 100% BS then? .... sigh ....

The Lurking Droid said:
I recall reading something about somthing, like "Divx playback out of the box" and that kind of fluff regarding Desire before...
Was it pure 100% BS then? .... sigh ....
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BS? No.
Available out of the box? No.
Coming "soon" to an OTA update near you? Yes.

"soon" IE.... next year?
I've seen the slow update on the Hero, so I won't be holdning my breath on this.
(The very reason I didn't go for Hero in the first place, painfully slow updates)

The Lurking Droid said:
"soon" IE.... next year?
I've seen the slow update on the Hero, so I won't be holdning my breath on this.
(The very reason I didn't go for Hero in the first place, painfully slow updates)
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I really wish I could be more specific, but "soon" is as close as it gets.. Hence putting it in quotes.
For now, I'd convert using something like Handbrake. Not an ideal solution as you always lose some of the quality when cross converting, but it's the best solution for the moment.

Yeah I understand that, that's the reason I asked "next year?"
Well, I guess the quality itself won't bother me, after all, it's just on 3.7inch screen.
The main "trouble" as I see is that, it takes such tremendious time converting files.
I mean it takes more time to convert file than show itself you know?
The reason I stopped watching stuff on my PSP, it just took way too much time.

the one worry i'd have about streaming is data usuage... if your on 3g etc.. if you have wi fi handy then great.. but i'd imagine streaming over 3g would eat data quite quickly

Oh I was talking about while I'm on my own network.
So no worries there. Thank you for your concern tho.
But your post reminds of me something, but is kinda OT, should I start a new thread about that, or should I keep going here?

Since nobody's protesting, I'll just go ahead and ask it.
I feel a bit torned about how much data plan I'll be using.
I will be checking and sending around 10 mails avg a day, maybe some net surfing (nothing heavy duty) maybe couple of youtube vids, no twitter or facebook.
Will 500mb/month suffice or will I use it up within couple of days? LOL
I srsly have no idea, so any insight will be appreciated!

well i have 50 megs per day (dont ask irish plans are $hite) actually its a pay as you go contract.. 50 megs a day for 99 cents.. never go over that to be honest.. i have email client on and browse the web a bit.. and market place.. wouldnt watch video etc or do streaming unless i'm on wireless network... i think unless your doing streaming or sending large emails you'd do well to use 500 in a month.. i know guys who are on 250mb for a month and they say it doesnt them fine..
The Lurking Droid said:
Since nobody's protesting, I'll just go ahead and ask it.
I feel a bit torned about how much data plan I'll be using.
I will be checking and sending around 10 mails avg a day, maybe some net surfing (nothing heavy duty) maybe couple of youtube vids, no twitter or facebook.
Will 500mb/month suffice or will I use it up within couple of days? LOL
I srsly have no idea, so any insight will be appreciated!
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The Lurking Droid said:
Since nobody's protesting, I'll just go ahead and ask it.
I feel a bit torned about how much data plan I'll be using.
I will be checking and sending around 10 mails avg a day, maybe some net surfing (nothing heavy duty) maybe couple of youtube vids, no twitter or facebook.
Will 500mb/month suffice or will I use it up within couple of days? LOL
I srsly have no idea, so any insight will be appreciated!
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I think it really depends on your usage. I suggest a data monitoring app such as 3G Watchdog. Run it for a few days and it'll give you a good guage as to how much data you're using.

Well micks, when you think about it you have 50mb a day!
that's total sum of 1.4 gig per month!
So it's like 3 times more than I was thinking about after all.
Fatman, true, however, the provider here are sneaky bunch who allows custmers upgrade on plan, but not downgrade!
Choises choises, just way too many choises tbh.
I have to decide if I gonna go for Legend or Desire in the first place.
I mean Legend got some seriously sexy outershell! But desire shines with raw poweeeerrr.
I'm just asking myself why HTC didn't make legend shell with desire internals!

FaceTime on Android?

Well, I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this. As you guys can imagine, FaceTime is going to be the new craze among iPhone 4 users. As much as I hate to say it, Apple will be the ones to make voice calling finally take off.
Qik is meh, and Skype video chat is still up in the air (no pun intended).
So that begs the question, would it be possible to make a device such as the Evo emulate FaceTime (with an iPhone 4 caller). Considering it's over WiFi, I don't see how it couldn't be possible.
They claim FaceTime is supposed to be an "open" standard, though I am a bit dubious to this considering H.264/AAC is involved.
Anyhow, all licensing and networking aside, I think we can agree that it is somewhat remotely possible and also really neat of an idea.
I know it's a bit early, but are there any teams talking about/working on this? I'm a developer (and learning the Android ropes at the moment) and would love to help contribute to something like this.
Comments, thoughts, and suggestions all welcome!

Yup, we'll see it eventually. As you said, FaceTime is an open standard and will probably be adopted on many different platforms. H.264 and AAC encoding's wont cause a problem, and will actually be beneficial due to it's compression versus quality ratio. Couple that together with the fact that the Evo already supports them out of the box, it's a no-brainer!

Eventually most likely all devices will connect somehow. This is a question though and would be more fit for the Q&A forum

The cool thing will be that we will likely be able to connect to FaceTime via 3G/4G and they will need Wifi because of Apple/ATT's control.

I would love to help out with this in any way I can, I can't do code but if you need graphics for the project, just pm me.

take it for what its worth, but Engadget did a test of facetime with mifi devices and the results were piss poor... we're probably better off using qik or some system that is designed for mobile networks.
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RTessi said:
take it for what its worth, but Engadget did a test of facetime with mifi devices and the results were piss poor... we're probably better off using qik or some system that is designed for mobile networks.
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Guess that explains why it's WiFi-only. Typical Crapple.

gbm85 said:
Guess that explains why it's WiFi-only. Typical Crapple.
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id factor it up more towards at&t not wanting the iphone users (apparently bandwidth hogs) taking up anymore of their resources.

this isdump. we have fring and qik which already work over 3g and 4g were facetime is only working over wifi....and its not even performing well with that....so what im trying to understand is...what is it that you are you expecting?

mastermayhm069 said:
this isdump. we have fring and qik which already work over 3g and 4g were facetime is only working over wifi....and its not even performing well with that....so what im trying to understand is...what is it that you are you expecting?
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I agree with you.
I don't think we need someone on Android to implement FaceTime... I'd rather have Fring, Qik or Skype put 2-way chat on the iPhone 4. It's not like I'm going to be in a call with someone and be like, oh, lets switch over to video so we can see each other. I'm fine with using a dedicated client and I think most iPhone users would be too.

ViViDboarder said:
I agree with you.
I don't think we need someone on Android to implement FaceTime... I'd rather have Fring, Qik or Skype put 2-way chat on the iPhone 4. It's not like I'm going to be in a call with someone and be like, oh, lets switch over to video so we can see each other. I'm fine with using a dedicated client and I think most iPhone users would be too.
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agreed, most of that stuff is just a gimmick, you use it once and then nada. I personally haven't used video chat on my phone since i got it.

mrono said:
agreed, most of that stuff is just a gimmick, you use it once and then nada. I personally haven't used video chat on my phone since i got it.
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I agree somewhat. I've used it a couple times but the lack of quality makes it a gimmick. If it was higher quality and more people could connect, I would probably use it more and think it was less gimmicky.

gthing said:
I agree somewhat. I've used it a couple times but the lack of quality makes it a gimmick. If it was higher quality and more people could connect, I would probably use it more and think it was less gimmicky.
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the quality is why I haven't used it, it's like i'm broadcasting from a portal into LEGO world

Yeah, so far video chatting from phone to phone is such a gimmick. However, I see some potential for video chatting from evo to computer. There isn't many video chat enabled phones out there but plenty of people with computers to video chat with. I just haven't found the right softwares for the phone and computer to use.

fring on evo connected with skype on computer is flawless, sound and video...if you have strong 3g/4g/wifi signal

tecmu said:
Yeah, so far video chatting from phone to phone is such a gimmick. However, I see some potential for video chatting from evo to computer. There isn't many video chat enabled phones out there but plenty of people with computers to video chat with. I just haven't found the right softwares for the phone and computer to use.
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ChatRoulette for Android Especially since they are working on an algorithm to filter out all the wangs

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ChatRoulette for Android Especially since they are working on an algorithm to filter out all the wangs
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your kiddin me hahahah filter out the wangs....thats hilarious.

Facetime application for Android
I switched from Apple to HTC EVO and I am very happy with HTC EVO. It is awesome. However if you look at the quality of video on face time it is amazing. The video and audio quality through Fring is no way comparable to facetime. Also people have connected using tethering through HTC EVO and connected two iphones with facetime. Excellent quality over 3G through HTC EVO. Summary, it will be nice to have an application like factime... Thanks

gbm85 said:
Guess that explains why it's WiFi-only. Typical Crapple.
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Is crap typical from Apple?

never really used facetime :/

The app that saved my son a ton of headache!

My Son's are attending Baylor University, and as we all know College kids can be a little wild sometimes. My youngest was recently roughed up pretty good by Campus PD. No matter the story or reasons and besides the bias that I have due to him being my son, the arresting Officer lied about the reasons for arrest and illegal search. (Bambuser) is a recording app that streams video and uploads it to the net. It can live broadcast or save for later sharing. I'm glad he took my advice to record all interaction with Police and also used this app. It really saved his hide. Based on his video using this app, the case was dismissed and PD has to replace his phone. The Officer broke his phone and took the SD card.... The app has a screen timeout feature where it is still recording even though the screen will go blank.

sure sounds like an advertisement, but good for your son. Good thing he was quick-witted enough to pull out his phone, open up the app, and start recording, all while getting "roughed up."

Thanks for sharing, it sounds good to have something like this off hand. At least for where I live where Philadelphia and Bensalem police are corrupt as a fact in the news....without any corrective action taken since last reported with evidence a few years back

toddnbrown said:
sure sounds like an advertisement, but good for your son. Good thing he was quick-witted enough to pull out his phone, open up the app, and start recording, all while getting "roughed up."
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Technically speaking it was an advertisement, as are all OP 's to some degree. But there's no affiliations other than end user.

Time to take control of sons phone

My son is 15 and I believe that he is becoming enslaved to porn. He comes home and heads straight for his room only coming out to eat. He says that he is watching youtube but no one spends 5 to 7 hours watching Youtube. He used to spend considerable time playing video games on his laptop. Now he just lays under the sheets looking at his phone with his headphones on. This could be very serious. I had a friend in junior high who became addicted to porn and developed a serious mental disorder. He didn't leave his bedroom for nearly 10 years.
I finally took away his phone. I want to inspect it just to see exactly what's going on. It has a lock screen pin and I don't know the account information although I may be able to gain access to it to unlock the phone from device manager. I really just want to find out what other options I have to get into his phone before I do a hard reset and attempt a Google Account Bypass hack. I need to install a monitoring apk like Cerberus to exact more control over his phone as well.
I'm not trying to get access to a phone that I'm not authorized to. And I understand that I can't prove that either but any information about what I can do to help my son would be awesome.
The phone is the LG G4 VS991 with Android 6.1

Not sure I can help you with the phone, but why don't you talk to your son instead? Confronting him and taking away his phone may not be the best way to deal with this. Kids nowadays unfortunately have access to porn from many places, phones, computers, tablets, etc. And if it's not their phone, it's one of their friends'. So taking away the phone may not get you very far, it probably just undermines any trust relationship he has with you.
So see if you can find out by talking to him what is really going on with your son, and see if you can make him understand that he needs to control himself. Also I think a lot of people watch porn, and rarely it turns into a serious mental disorder. He is a young teenage boy, his carnal desires are taking over, but I can understand based on your past experiences that you don't want this to turn into a problem.

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My son is 15 and I believe that he is becoming enslaved to porn. He comes home and heads straight for his room only coming out to eat. He says that he is watching youtube but no one spends 5 to 7 hours watching Youtube. He used to spend considerable time playing video games on his laptop. Now he just lays under the sheets looking at his phone with his headphones on. This could be very serious. I had a friend in junior high who became addicted to porn and developed a serious mental disorder. He didn't leave his bedroom for nearly 10 years.
I finally took away his phone. I want to inspect it just to see exactly what's going on. It has a lock screen pin and I don't know the account information although I may be able to gain access to it to unlock the phone from device manager. I really just want to find out what other options I have to get into his phone before I do a hard reset and attempt a Google Account Bypass hack. I need to install a monitoring apk like Cerberus to exact more control over his phone as well.
I'm not trying to get access to a phone that I'm not authorized to. And I understand that I can't prove that either but any information about what I can do to help my son would be awesome.
The phone is the LG G4 VS991 with Android 6.1
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Really don't do it this way. Technically it may be possible but don't break the trust you have with your son.
I cannot tell you WHAT you should do but I can say that doing it this way will make things even more worse!
This sounds more like a problem need to be solved another way.
...and keep in mind that he is in an age where porn becomes very interesting. The most important step is taken when he has a real girlfriend where he just do not needs those videos anyways.
But nevertheless this discussion is nothing for this forum..
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Thank you both for your thoughts. On not the best dad in the world and I know that. I will consider other options. Thanks again.

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Thank you both for your thoughts. On not the best dad in the world and I know that. I will consider other options. Thanks again.
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No just be not that hard with yourself. It's just the way to go. Making worries means you love your son and that is the most important!

but he is 15....

If you can crack his phone, might want to consider applying for the NSA.

curster said:
My son is 15 and I believe that he is becoming enslaved to porn. He comes home and heads straight for his room only coming out to eat. He says that he is watching youtube but no one spends 5 to 7 hours watching Youtube.
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Believe me, there are legions of people that do exactly this. I think it's less likely for someone to spend 5-7 hours watching porn.
curster said:
He used to spend considerable time playing video games on his laptop. Now he just lays under the sheets looking at his phone with his headphones on. This could be very serious. I had a friend in junior high who became addicted to porn and developed a serious mental disorder. He didn't leave his bedroom for nearly 10 years.
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Might be watching Netflix, downloaded TV series, listening to music, watching YouTube. This is not proof of a porn addiction at all.
curster said:
I finally took away his phone. I want to inspect it just to see exactly what's going on. It has a lock screen pin and I don't know the account information although I may be able to gain access to it to unlock the phone from device manager. I really just want to find out what other options I have to get into his phone before I do a hard reset and attempt a Google Account Bypass hack. I need to install a monitoring apk like Cerberus to exact more control over his phone as well.
I'm not trying to get access to a phone that I'm not authorized to. And I understand that I can't prove that either but any information about what I can do to help my son would be awesome.
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See, that's the thing. You *aren't* trying to access a phone you're not authorized to. You're his father so you have every right to check his activity. However, why can't you just sit him down and have a good talk? Why go behind his back and set the wrong example? He'll only feel distrusted and will be deterred from coming to you when he might want to with questions or issues.
I don't think it's a bad idea to simply ask him what he does on his PC, maybe he can show you what he's doing. Maybe he has a new interest you could share. And maybe it is porn, but then at least you can have a healthy conversation about the good and the bad sides.

joeyvanhummel said:
Believe me, there are legions of people that do exactly this. I think it's less likely for someone to spend 5-7 hours watching porn.
Might be watching Netflix, downloaded TV series, listening to music, watching YouTube. This is not proof of a porn addiction at all.
maybe facebook whats app . youtube and yes maybe a little bit of porn. dont worry about it. as long as its not gay porn. we all go thru that. we love porn and yes when he gets a girlfriend porn will be not in priority. i watched porn LOL i have porn. who doesnt ... i want to ask the father DID YOU WATCHED PORN???
we all did. so itll be okey. but as a son when parent spies on you its worst, thats not cool. as long as its drugs i agree to know what hes doing but for porn. let him explore.
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Sound issue when using faster playback speeds?

Hi all,
My wife loves watching youtube videos on 1.75-2x speed. We noticed that the sound specially on music played in the video is very distorted/muffled/sounds like youre underwater. This doesn't happen on the iPhone 7 Plus we switched from. I searched all over and couldn't find anything on this other than an old article regarding Android 5.0 where you can disable something called "nuplayer" in developer settings but I don't see this option.
This has been confirmed to happen on both of our Note 10 Plus' on Android 9.
Any help trying to figure this out will be GREATLY appreciated.
Thank you!

Another interesting find is that this also happens on PC! What the heck did Apple do different?! This sucks big time.
I guess case closed. This is a "normal" occurrence.

I think it's the video as I just done it and it sounded ok to me so must be the video and how the sound is coded

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I think it's the video as I just done it and it sounded ok to me so must be the video and how the sound is coded
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Yeah, I'm not too sure! My wife sent me a couple links to test and they both had the same issue. She complains that most videos she watches has that issue. Anything from music to background noises on planes and such (she watches a lot of traveling/food vlogs). I'll PM you a link for the video I'm talking about as I'm not allowed to post links yet.
When the music kicks in, it sounds distorted. This doesn't happen on the iPhone. I really don't understand what would cause this.

Ok I'll have a listen to it now and report back to you

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Ok I'll have a listen to it now and report back to you
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I guess another thing is that it may sound normal to people who are used to it. But if you have an Apple device to test and compare it to, you'd be able to tell the difference right away. When I first heard it, I thought she was crazy until she showed me the difference on our old iPhones. Then it left me wondering why it would do this. Some more articles I stumbled upon mentioned CPU processing power when setting it to a faster playback but I can't imagine the Note 10 Plus being inferior to the iphone 7 plus in processing power.

I couldn't find video or got inbox also dont have an iphone lol