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Touchflo 2d Manila On Artemis Working Great

FOR WHO WANTS ORIGINAL TOUCHFLO 2D MANILA ON ARTEMIS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425694
IT WORKS REALLY FINE AND SMOOTH ON
I HAVE AN ARTEMIS ANJA AND MOSSI ROM 6.1

i second this on yues extra-clean!
greetz
p.s. one thing i really dont fancy about those manila guys is their not displaying the version details in the cab name, this way you find various .cab version posted everywhere and never know which one it is!

this 1 is much better thn all those throttle launcher themes

... just one thing i am missing:
how to change the buttons of the bottom row- order and showing buttons-- i just dont need all of them!
greetz
p.s.. the manila dialer is cooked into yue_v9.1 extraclean !!!!

thormdac edit the file HTCHomeSettings.xml search for tabs and disable what you wont!i gonna try to make a lite version... the last cab install around 330 files to windows directory!!! insane

I haven't tried that combined package yet, but everything installed from single packages works fine on Tom's oops.

Are you going to release this rom in a single package?

zoko said:
thormdac edit the file HTCHomeSettings.xml search for tabs and disable what you wont!i gonna try to make a lite version... the last cab install around 330 files to windows directory!!! insane
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will try that!
would be nice if you could make a light version
thanx

Works but not so impressed
Tested it on YuE's clean rom, it works but that's all.
Don't find it so spectacular cause I work with SPB Mobile Shell 2.0 with Diamondskin 2.1
This Manilla thing it's a combination of Spb Mobile Shell Diamond Theme & Throttlelauncher.
BUT it would be nice to implement in any new roms, don't like the HTC Diamond home plugin in the middle of the screen... And they cannot implement the Mobile Shell 2.0 with Diamond theme as homescreen cause it's not freeware...
Only the clock is not so nice on the startup screen, but this can maybe be changed.

just installed it on my artemis touch 4.02 lite no cube rom, it took about ten minutes to install, then when i restarted it about 7 minutes for the pda to load back up, and everything was so sluggish ! I then tried to uninstall it and that took about 15 mins then gave up and said it could'nt uninstall it properly.
Thanks god i have a sprite backup to restore.
It may have been my fault though, i selected install to storage card ? or maybe it just installs to windows anyway.
oh well...

you must install to the device, even though it lets you choose.

oh well i cant even restore, so i have to reflash again, what a pain

i tend to agree,
even on my rocket fast yue extraclean, i feel extremely slowed down (in comparison to without it) in trade for which gain?- optics? hope we can lighten this baby down
greetz

corky said:
just installed it on my artemis touch 4.02 lite no cube rom, it took about ten minutes to install, then when i restarted it about 7 minutes for the pda to load back up, and everything was so sluggish ! I then tried to uninstall it and that took about 15 mins then gave up and said it could'nt uninstall it properly.
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The same for me (with an extralight rom and installing Manila 2d in device).
It works but.......very slowwww.
I unistalled it (correctly) but starting time after soft reset was too long: only solution a hard reset.

What about RAM consuption... What can you tell me about it?

I'm also uninstalling it, Spb Mobile Shell with Diamondskin 2.1 is much nicer to work with...
I haven't experienced any slow down of my P3300 with this either...
The Manilla 2D is still in beta, maybe some programmers can speed it up so that rom-builders can cook it in their roms.

HI,
I don't know why your manila 2d is slow , I only can suppose that must install a wm 6.1 diamond rom based , for example i get the anja and mossi on it , or must look for some rom similar
My manila 2d it is fast and works really well, anyway before installing it I uninstall all gui stuff like SPB shell
I installed manila on memory device and not on sd card
I have 14 MB ram free once manila is working , and is working well

i second to the past users' comments
i have tom's oops black 1.0 installed, and i've installed manilla on my device.
everyone should agree that touchFLO 3D aka manilla wasnt actually designed for artemis.. bt it was targeted for diamond which has higher ROM, higher RAM and a higher processors with a graphics device to assist its processes. it would be slow on any device with 128MB ROM and 64MB RAM and a 200MHz processor.
however, its not that slow.. i have 15MB free after Manilla is up and running after power-on.. i can use other applications fine.. bt surely the startup is slow.. takes a bit of patience heheh..
anyway its nice work from another xda developer.. i greatly appreciate ur work...
i've been using manilla on my artemis since it was launched for artemis.. im happy abt it..
hope that somebody can make it less bloating, more efficient, faster and more usable with better customizations..
xda developers rules!

thormdac said:
i tend to agree,
even on my rocket fast yue extraclean, i feel extremely slowed down (in comparison to without it) in trade for which gain?- optics? hope we can lighten this baby down
greetz
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how about reflashing but this time with 8mb pagepool ?

From where can I download Touch flo Manilla 2D or 3D even for my artemis (arte110)?

[REQ] ROM with Manila 2D

Why don't cook a ROM with TOUCHFLO2D? Our Diamond could be faster!

Yeah this sounds like a good idea! I would personally prefer a blazing fugging fast 1.93 2D ROM than a sluggish 1.93 3D ROM... (Black Diamond theme of course )

i agree with you...
i use a ROM without TF3d (french Diamondstone rom) and i install Opal version of TF2d (found on this forum) and it work very fine, much faster tan the 3d version
maybe someone can try to cook this way.

it looks good on your device? since its qvga... or did someone edit it to work on vga?

o yar a faster diamond
just what i need..
the 3d is nice and all.. but after a while.. gets tired looking at it.. and besides the 2d version aint that bad...
and the analog clock is so much cooler...

Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices

I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?

Riel said:
I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
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Not with every Rom, so 2d is much faster.

RideTheTube said:
Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
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Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.

avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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thanks a lot bro!

It would be great to have ROM with TF2D! it will result in much faster diamond, extra stogare and memory.
hope one of our great developers will work on it.
cheers.

Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)

simcarloc said:
Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
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Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.

The ultimate ROM!
losdrivare said:
Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
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I agree completely! With that kind of speed (like with the tf2d) this ui would be an IPhone killer...
The only thing I am wondering about is, that nobody (as far as I have seen) yet inlcuded a proper SMS (only) Tool (like in iContacts, but without the contacts), because the WM5 version is indiscribably bad..
To bring it to a point (and I hope this is not too far off this topic): Why has nobody yet created a rom that comes standard with S2U2 installed and something like iContact (which directly replaces all the WM5 contacts and the links i.e. from tf3d / tf2d) and a Programs/settings views like in iPhonez(but only that part not the whole iPhonez, we want a killer, not a copy!). and last but not least something like a proper touch-fileexplorer like resco explorer2008(i simply mean the size of the file entries and a little revamping of the original fileexplorer, maybe there is one already?)
If a ROM like that would be put together well (and one of these capable cooks are able to include these tools much deeper and better than when a user installs them into the ROM) we could finally beat the iPhone! (I know its not about beating the iphone, but fact is that the diamond has one nice tf3d tool on top of the same old WM5 which in its original rom is slaggishly slow and is then supposed to beat the well thought through iPhone?? Of course not! there is no alternative that brings the same quality of UI - YET, BUT:
All these great programmers that took their time to create good apps (like iPhonez, iContact, ThumpCal, S2U2, etc..) if (and I know it probably is a challenge to get their agreement to put their stuff in a rom) this would be put togethere into one well made rom, the diamond would be unbeatable!!!!!!
Then get this ROM a bit known as the iphone-killer and this will be picked up in the public a bit more.. finally it could turn out that all these nice programmers get a big bunch of money so that their stuff or a version of it will be used as a permanent part of a stock rom and we all are happy because we will have the best phone ever, made by the people for the people! WHAT A VISION! and its realistic, too! Let's go and use the synergy of all the great cooks and developers and create the SUPER-ROM!!!!
I am ready to pay good developer 50USD to include the existing tools into a personalized ROM, just to have something that prooves the idea and convince the guys to give their permission. (and also to have that myself! )
So who wants the ultimate ROM!!

avers can u give us all the edited files of the tf2d vga u are using ? thanks

avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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Where can I find this VGA skin (the one in the attached thumnail)
Thank you

[Req] ROM with TF 2D

Hello,
I've just flashed a ROM with integrated TF 2D to my old Hermes and I Have to say: WOW its realy nice, incredible fast (on a Hermes) and there a many extensions, themes and so on.
I know that there is a thread about tf2d on vga-devices, so I'm asking my self: Why we don't have a Diamond-Rom with tf2d?

TF 2D on diamond
HerrVorragend said:
Hello,
I've just flashed a ROM with integrated TF 2D to my old Hermes and I Have to say: WOW its realy nice, incredible fast (on a Hermes) and there a many extensions, themes and so on.
I know that there is a thread about tf2d on vga-devices, so I'm asking my self: Why we don't have a Diamond-Rom with tf2d?
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because i belive it still don't work right on the diamond
THIS IS WHY THERE IS NOT ROMS HERE YET WITH IT.

i know what you mean - i have manila2d on my trinity.
however, diamond has touch flo 3d and with a bit of tweaking it is fast enough.
i suggest to have the goodies from manila2d included in the tf3d.
i.e.
. analog clock
. customize tab list
would be great if someone can keep an eye on this.

the clock
i love it....really nice looking...but if we get it is another thing

Dear Tai & Josh are we expecting using the XBMOD Manilla 3D

are we expecting using the XBMOD Manilla 3D in your cooked ROM
as they are using it with The Diamond and HD as well as Rhodium
They are look beautifull

I don't believe we have enough ram in the Hermes to support manilla3D

Thats VGA and Hermies is QVGA so i doubt that will ever happen besides even the ported QVGA 3D manilla doesn't work on the Hermies.

MrDSL said:
Thats VGA and Hermies is QVGA so i doubt that will ever happen besides even the ported QVGA 3D manilla doesn't work on the Hermies.
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yea and "hermies" lol has no 3d drivers

joshkoss said:
yea and "hermies" lol has no 3d drivers
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but last time I read on Kaiser thread that HTC also does not release a 3D driver for Kaiser, that's why TF3D does not really working smooth in Kaiser too.

Hi Dude,
Yesterday i have tried to add XBMod Manila 3D, it don't work...can't read all the files. I have changed a lot of files in XML, Provxml and pgn and many things but no result. So, i gave up and never try again. It's not posible to get the drive 3D running.

TAI_Sw said:
Hi Dude,
Yesterday i have tried to add XBMod Manila 3D, it don't work...can't read all the files. I have changed a lot of files in XML, Provxml and pgn and many things but no result. So, i gave up and never try again. It's not posible to get the drive 3D running.
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Thanks a Lot , at least you try it

[REQ] Manila 2.5 as a cab and then as a panel?

hi everybody is there any way to have the new manila 2.5 as a cab installer and then as a panel like i used to do whit manila 2.1? thanks

I wonder if that's possible? But if yes then that would be really nice.

This is a really good idea...who can help XDA members?

Actually I can't recommend installing TF3D by cab, because it consists of a lot (and I mean a lot, certainly 2.5!!) of files. And installing it by cab will make a huge impact on the system.
The first TF3D for X1 was available as a cab, but the diffence between installing by cab or cooked in where huge. TF3D by cab had all sorts of quirks and was slow a h*ll.....
FOr example, the manila 2.1 package alone is almost 40mb (and 2.5 is even bigger) so you end up with a cab of about 50mb.
But back to the point, haven't seen a cab of manila 2.5 (and there probably will not be one for the above reason).

thanks Lokatho for the esplaination, btw now that i know about the problem of a cab i was just wondering if a rom with a manila 2.5 PANEL could be built...

-=W1S3=- said:
hi everybody is there any way to have the new manila 2.5 as a cab installer and then as a panel like i used to do whit manila 2.1? thanks
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Found this online: http://www.pda4x.com/read.php?tid=103696
Guess they have CABbed Manila 2.5....interesting. Wonder what the file size is.
Now gotta look for a CAB to make it a panel.

angusrouse said:
Found this online: http://www.pda4x.com/read.php?tid=103696
Guess they have CABbed Manila 2.5....interesting. Wonder what the file size is.
Now gotta look for a CAB to make it a panel.
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It's just a manila 2.5 theme and not a manila 2.5 cab!!!
It was made by a XDA member and you can find it here

LoL
btw nice to see that my request is appreciated

Mopral said:
It's just a manila 2.5 theme and not a manila 2.5 cab!!!
It was made by a XDA member and you can find it here
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it possible to install in xperia with wm 6.1 ??

Lokatho said:
Actually I can't recommend installing TF3D by cab, because it consists of a lot (and I mean a lot, certainly 2.5!!) of files. And installing it by cab will make a huge impact on the system.
The first TF3D for X1 was available as a cab, but the diffence between installing by cab or cooked in where huge. TF3D by cab had all sorts of quirks and was slow a h*ll.....
FOr example, the manila 2.1 package alone is almost 40mb (and 2.5 is even bigger) so you end up with a cab of about 50mb.
But back to the point, haven't seen a cab of manila 2.5 (and there probably will not be one for the above reason).
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Make ROM that will preserve all user info and programs and i will update immediately.

Flash a ROM!
It would be really pointless to have a cab of 2.5, it would slow down your whole device and would barely run!
if you want 2.5, to the easiest and best way, flash to one of our chef's great ROMS!
I think that Valkyrie 3.2 is the best....but there are others....like NRG's wwe energyrom....and ITJE TOUCHIT LEO...
if you want 2.5 you need to flash!
and as far as a panel goes...it would be relativley pointless if you are already using 2.5 as your homescreen....
and if you are a NEWB....you should look and search into 2.5, the threads and roms before opening relatively pointless threads...
just my 2 cents

acidbath5546 said:
It would be really pointless to have a cab of 2.5, it would slow down your whole device and would barely run!
if you want 2.5, to the easiest and best way, flash to one of our chef's great ROMS!
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You are right, apart from the fact that (as stated out in my recent thread) you are supposing that everyone is in love with WM6.5.
I was looking as well for a cabbed Manila 2.5 to install it on WM6.1, so it would really be great to have it (or, have it cooked on a WM6.1)

there are modules and dll's for the new leo which wont work on 6.1

there is a manila 2 cab
linkt to thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448178
its a bit confusing, you have to download EnableRapi.cab first and install it. (in wont work the other way around, i tried it.
than you install the new manila 2 cab to internal memory. (that takes about 2 hours + in the tread are 3 different manilla cab files and only one has landscape i think, the beta3 but just use my link)
i have direct links to the files
EnableRapi cab: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300592 (you have to scroll down a bit till you see the file)
manila 2 cab: http://rapidshare.com/files/218194087/TF3DHDB3.cab
and about the speed of manila 2, i have it installed one week ago and it crashed 1 time so far because i pressed accidently on picture presentation and than on weather tab and than switched to landscape (that was too much xD). and tabs like programs, settings and weather always take some time to show up. (about 2-4 seconds) all other tabs are fast once they loaded the first time. landcape switch takes always around 4 secounds, never longer.
and someone said its a huge impact on the device to install a 45mb cab file, and that might be true, but i have installed like 3 different manilas and this one 3 times (and uninstalled again, it never worked because i always forgot something) i never hardresetted the x1 after all the installing and it still works quiet good.

forgot to say, its not a panel, just a today element. and im using winmo 6.1

Thanks to show them how to install manila 2.0 on Wm6.1 but they search a cab for manila 2.5

yes, i understood all you're saying, so i know that a rom with manila 2.5 in it will run better. Now that i know it, i'd like to know if with a rom like this will be possible to run the manila as a panel instead of run it as the standard today screen. I want this option just because i like to change today home screen very often and also because if i have manila 2.5 in use in the today and i open another panel, it will still run in backgroung, making the whole phone go slower...
(sorry for my bad english :S hope you'll understand it...)

rotastrain said:
there are modules and dll's for the new leo which wont work on 6.1
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Miri did a WM6.1 ROM with Leo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547278