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An Xtream Comeback....

My god its been a while since i was here!!.... Been so busy my phone stopped having its Roms changed more than my underware and became simply my phone..... BUT now iv forgotten how to do this shiz and i feel so incredibly lost on here and my BIG problem and the reason why i came back
.......Apple iphone white is making me so excited i think a little bit of wee came out! it looks nice and its SO much faster then my Artemis BUT i love my Artemis but i want an iphone ARRRRRG!!!..... i know... Ill go on XdaDev and see if thoes clever F***ERS have been able to make it Run any faster. im using Artemis Touch 4.01 Full with cube and im also using Ultimate launch wich is making thigs quite laggy any ideas of how i can rekindle my love for my phone?

...more or less the same here: since changing to tomtom 7 my orig. htc rom is a bit sluggish!
i am back to the good old days with meschle: vanilla 4.01!!! changed radio to Artemis 2.98.90 gsm radio though, since all the new cooks dont seem to know about the downs of porting radio roms from other machines to the artemis!
its been a while back too, when we found the battery drain on most cooked roms resulting from any version above the mentioned radio! 2.98.90 is the last released for artemis- often other versions result in a constant polling for radio-signal, thus draining battery enormously--and spreading more radiation than needed.
greetz

Strange, don't need anything faster for my P3300, i use gsm,gps,wifi and no delays at all.
I have YuE_WM6.1_v4.4_LiteSE_WWE rom and installed a lot of extra's on the storage card.
TomTom is not so spectacular anymore (graphicwise), i use IGO8 (3D buildings) and rom fast enough (standard 201MHZ).
You can always tweak it up with batterystatus to 247mhz but what goes slow?
What do you do with your Artemis, video or graphic processing ???
Please note that faster processorsettings = faster battery drain.
In past i had Qtek 2020i & Eten G500 (both +-400 a 500mhz) but don't miss the speed...
Don't follow the hype, Artemis is best price/quality all in one at the moment.
At least we have a mini-sd extension slot and gps, that's a minimum
If you want an iphone for the 3D interface, install htc rom with 3D Cube & set to 247mhz.
The Iphone layout gets boring with the icon startup screen is not so 'funky' as the SPB Mobile Shell 2.0 with Diamondskin & Samuraiweather on our Artemis
You can install also an iphone skin, iphone s2u2, ... ringtone,... so that it looks the same softwarewise, but it's not so spectacular as you might expect...
Be individual, install your own rom, todayskin, programs and make a backup of your own perfect setup is the message !

Innovator said:
YuE_WM6.1_v4.4_LiteSE_WWE rom and installed a lot of extra's on the storage card.
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Between YuE_WM6.1_v4.4_LiteSE_WWE and Vanilla 4.02, which one is better ?

No idea, i took Yue's cause it was a newer version, and if i'm not mistaken it had less pre-installed stuff. I want to start from scratch with the lightest rom and install SPB Mobile Shell, and all other tools I like, no unescessary stuff to save program memory & ram. I did install the latest RADIO for best battery/consumption settings...
In past i used the 4.02 from Meschle & tested the Oops black, but don't like the HTC Home plugin and the diamond-plugin... SPB Mobile Shell with diamond skin 2.1 is really the coolest
Yue's extraclean should be the lightest, but i didn't get it too work, cannot flash it through windows cause romsize lower than normal.
SDHC Card flashing is not possible (tried it with an SD also but no succes). But i'm satisfied with my current rom for a long time.

Innovator said:
SDHC Card flashing is not possible (tried it with an SD also but no succes). But i'm satisfied with my current rom for a long time.
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try the following in order to get sd card flashing to work:
run uspl!!!!
than:
quoted from ...."i dont remember"
"1) install WM5torage in your pda
2) start the program
3) deselect all voices in the panel (expecially Removable Class)
4) connect your pda with PC via USB
In this way windows read the SecureDigital as a fisical disk, so you can create, resize and delete partitions
5) in your PC right-click on Computer, then select Manage
6) Select Disk Manager and then delete existent partition
7) create a new partition with max size 256MB
8) format this partition in FAT32
Now your SD is ready to be used for flash!!!"
Thing that made me drop YuE_WM6.1_v4.4 is that friggin` russion stuff.
yeah, u can change dialer and pads, but it keeps contacts search in russian
apart from that, my original htc wm6.0 rom was definately not the choice for tomtom7 somehow it felt... sluggish!
both YuE_WM6.1_v4.4 and vanilla 4.01 ( my all-time classic from the good old days!!!) both do the job quite zippy--so i agree: stay with the artemis, forget about yuppie-style ipone!
greetz

oh I just known that vanilla 4.01 and 4.02 use the same OS built. I uploaded vanilla 4.01 in the collection topic. I hate diamond black skin black GUI on 4.02 but now I finished setup all my programs and lazy to go back 4.01
Specialist ROM cookers never make clean ROM. It's hard to upgrade builtin 3rd party softwares in the future. Not everyone install new ROM every month. We want to install one ROM and forgot it. Use it 2- 5 years without hardreset.
If I am ROM cooker, I will make clean ROM and the optional all-in-one.cab. An optional All-in-one.cab can install in one click later. These can be easy upgrade or uninstall in the future.

natong said:
If I am ROM cooker, I will make clean ROM and the optional all-in-one.cab. An optional All-in-one.cab can install in one click later. These can be easy upgrade or uninstall in the future.
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nice idea! just to let you know on that matter: all pdaviet roms are missing a vital part, this makes it impossible to re-cook them!
greetz

Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V46) CHO HTC TRINITY

Hi,
I found this new rom from PDAVIET.
Here's the link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/203587319/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_46__B21169.rar
Password: PhamQuang
Who wants to try?

Beta 47 just posted...
If anyone is interested...
http://rapidshare.com/files/205688353/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_47__B21169.rar
Same password as above.

Have you tried the rom yet?
Any chance of some more info and screen shots?
Cheers

Beta 47 initial review
Although i am not a big fan of M2D, and V47 is M2D rom, I am going to give it a try. I am running it for few minutes only, so i can't give any real feedback, besides the obvious. First- WM6.5 (M2D off) takes about 28M RAM, and since the page pool is set to 6M, there are only 48M RAM to begin with. This gives only 20M of free RAM. Kind of low than i want, but considering WM6.5 it was expected. With M2D on (as set as default) there are only 12M free RAM. That is BEFORE trying to have anything else, or changing tabs...
Phone wakes up with wrong time and date (not a big deal) , and finds the right network nice (I am in the US). One graphic bug is obvious- task manager and X button are too big, and cover the clock on the top right corner of the upper bar.
Free memory (applications) after installation (nothing added) is 48.22M total, of which 4.74M are taken. Pretty low, considering other roms with 70M. I guess M2D and the new WM are bigger.
I have changed page pool to 4M, gaining extra 2M RAM, and it seems to be stable and fast enough for my needs. 51M RAM, of which 18.55M free with M2D on, and 20M RAM.
The next step I took was trying to sync time using the tool called 'Synchro time'. As soon as I did, a pop-up message told me the rom is a 7 day trial, and right after that I have a 'screen of death' on my phone telling me: "that concludes the beta test of the software..."
I don't know if this is because of the time sync or not. I had to hard reset the phone and start all over, hoping it will not happen again that soon..
I let M2D run, not doing anything on the phone. After 15 minutes I was left with 12M of free RAM. I have installed SKTools, set shadow RAM cleaning, and optimized for maximum memory. Soft reset the phone and it starts with 18.46M free RAM with M2D, 20.51M without. Too low for my taste. using free-up RAM by SKTools gives 23M free if M2D is off.
As for the bee-hive shape of WM6.5 - I find it annoying. applications change location on you, and there is not logical sequence where they will be. I had to scroll 3 pages to find an application, and the scroll isn't smooth. Also- on pop-up windows - the OK button on the top right is missing, but pushing the corner where it suppose to be do close them up.
I am installing email accounts, and will let you know how it goes.. I don't think i will keep it, because it is a memory hog rom, although stable and performance is not too bad.
BigE

Test is over... after 1 hour
Ok folks, memory management of this rom is horrible. I don't know if it WM6.5, or the M2D, but for sure it is impossible to have only 8M RAM free after one hour of use. All i have done was connect to an exchange server, and have made nothing else. Kept the phone aside and looked at memory after an hour. Dropped from 18M to 8M and I think after enough time it would have crashed. it seems memory leaks.
I would be very afraid to leave home with this rom. first it 'expire'. Then it leaks memory, and third the WM6.5 is not my cup of tea at all. I hate the bee-hive and the way it moves on the phone. Only way to organize it is to create folders and move shortcuts around. WM6.5 has some nice tabs and scroll bars, but it does not justify the rest. IMHO it is a draw back from WM6.1 , even if 6.1 isn't perfect at least it works and I know how to work around the bugs. 6.5 is not for trinity, I am afraid...
Ah, there are also at least one shortcut (getting started) that does not work for me (error message trying to run).
Well, it is BETA for a reason, but knowing PDAViet, I would say he tried the impossible and was almost doing a good job. As for myself- i am back to FinixOver 3.7UL and pointui2 as plugin. Quick, 30M free RAM, nice animation and stable like I need. RAM do not leak, and phone is running smooth.
Was it a complete waste of time to try? No, I have learned some good lesson. Will be very suspicious with other WM6.5 roms..
BigE

Additional feedback
Agreeing with all BigE said above, I add:
1) No video call in dialer.
2) "getting started" app does not work.
3) The "titanium" today plug-in is having many of Manilla-2d functionality with (a little) less memory consumption.
4) Uniting advanced power and backlight setting to one screen is (at last) very well welcomed.
5)memory...memory...memory.

I concur with the above findings. It is unfortunately not very responsive. I guess the overhead is too much for our Trinity.
The ROM lags terribly. However, I still appreciate the effort made by PDAViet.

Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .

chanvi93 said:
Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .
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sounds great!!, loking forward for your www release

chanvi93 said:
Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .
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I agree with u chanvi93.
I'm waiting 4 your next wwe release.
Thanx master.

WM6.5
Chanvi93,
Your roms are superb, no doubt, and you are right I am judging WM6.5 by one rom I tried and did not like. So let's hope what we have tried and failed isn't because of 6.5.
Can we hope for super lite WM6.5 rom ? I have tried yours, and have to admit, I liked them much but m2d isn't the right plug-in for me, especially after using pointui home2. So a naked WM6.5 rom WWE sound promising.
looking forward for your rom
BigE

chanvi93 said:
Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .
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Thanks for that Chanvi, I was indeed getting depressed reading this thread! Looking forward to your 6.5 build. Have you decided if you are going to include footprints or not? From what I can see, Iolite / Footprint is asking a lot of our humble Trinities. Previous Manila version has better performance maybe?
Mattster.

Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
ON 05/03/2009
ROM WM6.5 V47 CHO HTC TRINITY
BETA VERSION - CORE 21169
HTC Iolita
Manila2D
FIX , MMS
LINK :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/205688353/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_47__B21169.rar
PASS :- PhamQuang

arnooo said:
Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
ON 05/03/2009
ROM WM6.5 V47 CHO HTC TRINITY
BETA VERSION - CORE 21169
HTC Iolita
Manila2D
FIX , MMS
LINK :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/205688353/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_47__B21169.rar
PASS :- PhamQuang
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Sorry but, sms are not working....

Mattster_spv said:
Thanks for that Chanvi, I was indeed getting depressed reading this thread! Looking forward to your 6.5 build. Have you decided if you are going to include footprints or not? From what I can see, Iolite / Footprint is asking a lot of our humble Trinities. Previous Manila version has better performance maybe?
Mattster.
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Hello
It's done in my threat , 2 versions : Full with Footprint components and Lite without .
Footprint is a great soft for great traveller as me , i use it daily in work , don't need Manila for it so it don't use more ram if you don't launch .
@BigE
Super lite in wm 6.5 is not very good because some short cut and little softs are necessary for use .

not for this thread but anyways
have just flashed Chanvi's 3/8 Wm6.5 lite rom. I will report my testing on his thread, as this one is for PDAViet rom.
See you there in few hours I guess.
BigE

someone can upload some screenshot???

Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
Great Rom , but there is some memory leak, so phone must be often reboot ...

can run with P3600i from standart ROM???

yeh, copyr image file to your SD card and power+camera+reste you will get it flash. but memory arrangement is not that good.
this only from what i did.
galih_dian said:
can run with P3600i from standart ROM???
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WM 6.1 vs, WM 6.5

I want know which Rom is better in
Free Ram
Performence
Storage
compatible with software
Battery Drain

Make My Day! said:
I want know which Rom is better in
Free Ram
Performence
Storage
compatible with software
Battery Drain
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6.1 works great with me

6.1 is better in everything you wrote

6.1 will be better

from what I heard, 6.5 would be slower, memory hunger, cpu eater...

hello
WM6.1 more free RAM
WM6.5 more responsive
This is what I can say comparing the ROMs of CV93+Oggi.
Regards

Hi to all.
For me , not exist a rom ok for all.
WM 6.1 is ok for any function but is slow.
WM 6.5 is very fast , but again is not regulary ,
with many bugs,
I am waiting a rom very very beautifull ,
without bugs.
When ????
Bye .......

i found 6.1 is much faster and good ram Management, some of rom like i m using NiAx 40 which is very clean, i have tried couple of 6.5 rom but they are very slow and un stable, i would better stick with 6.1, may be 6.5 requires more ram then TRINITY have.

Hello all
WM 6.1 is in the end and WM 6.5 is in beginning of development .
6.5 is faster , nicer , smoother etc... 6.1 but use 4 or 5 MB of RAM more , my latest wm 6.1 in Ultra Lite has more than 31 MB of RAM and latest 6.5 has only 27 MB and can to be daily use .
Hope this synthese help you .

WM6.5 is BETA but..
Folks,
I think Chanvi gave the best answer so let me just repeat it and add:
1. WM6.1 is at the end of the road. True, there isn't yet a phone that comes with WM6.5 but soon it will start.
2. WM6.1 has an advantage regarding free RAM. However, with some clever tweaks (using kitchens) it is possible to create a ROM that will serve ANY application that runs on WM6.1 to run on WM6.5
3. WM6.5 has more than few annoying bugs of WM6.1 resolved. Original WM6.1 used to have some major issues, such as lock users out with 'wrong password' and other MS crap. It was all fixed in WM6.5
4. The GUI in WM6.5 is great. It takes time to get used to it, and I was between the ones complaining about the change it took from WM6.1 but the naked truth is when i tried to be back to WM6.1 it was bad experience for me.
5. Finger friendly- I hardly use the stylus in WM6.5 So much easier than WM6.1 was.
6. Stability- Sorry to 'disappoint' you, but at least Chanvi came up with a set of ROMs that are too good to be true. not one crash since April (two months) , great memory management (no leaks) and good battery life. It isn't all WM6.5, it is , I think, because Chanvi and Oggi are very talanted. Nevertheless- WM6.5 is , by far, superior to WM6.1
And I was one of the people thinking WM6.5 was too heavy for our trinity..
To get you an idea: I run 3 email accounts (one exchange) , my today plugin is home2 (heavy graphics) and I use iGO8 for GPS navigation, with high resolution and 3D (but no TTS).
And lastly- it makes the phone beautiful. Whenever someone shows me his iPHONE/Samsung/HTC Fuze/whatever with standard ROM, and I show him my cooked WM6.5 on a 3 years old phone (!) it is impressive... and runs as good as theirs, if not better. 3 years in phone years is 21 years in dog years.. LOL.. so much for phones, especially XDA ones.

well apart from the comments above I personally think I like 6.1 better.
Used chanvi 6.5 for 2 weeks, and I can't stand the slow response of the device, especially accessing my SMS (i store lots of em) and it takes more time to load and switch between applications (about 2 - 4 seconds more than when using 6.1).
I even flashed 6.5 onto my friend phone, as to try out the new and latest OS, and he too came back to me after a week, saying please save me and reflash back 6.1 as it's too slow for him.
We are business users hence accessing options like SMS, MMS, and web browser and switching back and fourth between applications should be fast. Unfortunately 6.5 does not provide that. It's fast, but just the today's interface and when clicking start, but when you actually load any application, it will take longer than 6.1 which we can't bare anymore..
In the end, my friend flashed trynnt ROM and I flashed another ROM which uses diamond interface runs on 6.1 and have no speed issues anymore.

neato4u said:
well apart from the comments above I personally think I like 6.1 better.
Used chanvi 6.5 for 2 weeks, and I can't stand the slow response of the device, especially accessing my SMS (i store lots of em) and it takes more time to load and switch between applications (about 2 - 4 seconds more than when using 6.1).
I even flashed 6.5 onto my friend phone, as to try out the new and latest OS, and he too came back to me after a week, saying please save me and reflash back 6.1 as it's too slow for him.
We are business users hence accessing options like SMS, MMS, and web browser and switching back and fourth between applications should be fast. Unfortunately 6.5 does not provide that. It's fast, but just the today's interface and when clicking start, but when you actually load any application, it will take longer than 6.1 which we can't bare anymore..
In the end, my friend flashed trynnt ROM and I flashed another ROM which uses diamond interface runs on 6.1 and have no speed issues anymore.
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Hi neato2u
I'm agree only on thing with you on IE (web browser) is not good in WM 6.5 if you use new IE8 with widgets , it's very slow and lag because our device have not enough free CPU (not ram) .
I use also in professional and business , i don't know exactly how many e mail i have (stored in sd card) but certainly more than 1 thousand with 3 account , Tomtom 7.910 daily use ,more than 2 hours phone (Voip included) by day et... , my rom is a Extra Ultra Full with Titanium + Manila + SPB Mobile as interface , i change interface when in job or wk or holidays . Never problem crash or other , only one thing is true , some app. like "Auto Hibernate" or "Activesync Killer" don't work in wm 6.5 so recently i find and use cleanRAM level3 with settings by run auto all 3 hours .
You can not compare HTCHome interface with Titanium or Manila , of course HTCHome is the lighter interface but older also , you can also install HTCHome in wm 6.5 , it will work better than in 6.1
Regards

Things you can do..
neato4u said:
well apart from the comments above I personally think I like 6.1 better.
Used chanvi 6.5 for 2 weeks, and I can't stand the slow response of the device, especially accessing my SMS (i store lots of em) and it takes more time to load and switch between applications (about 2 - 4 seconds more than when using 6.1).
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Some comments, as you did not mention some crucial info...
1. Have you tried IE6UltraLite ROM?
2. Do you support the phone with any tools like SKTOOLS for memory managment and shadow RAM services?
3. Ever tried opera MINI 4.2? (not opera mobile, don't confuse between the two). IE6 or IE8 are a disaster app, regardless if you use WM6.1 or WM6.5
I am, like you, using this XDA for business. I have no issues with either OS, provided I am taking good care of the installation of the above. Please keep in mind this phobe is not HTC but Dopod (were bought by HTC) and since WM5 there is not much of support for it by HTC. If you intend to keep using the trinity, even if with WM6.1, you can make it more efficient.
If you have installed the full blown IE8 version, yes, I agree with you it is not business oriented. But Chanvi has the lite just for the business side of it.
Besides, if you are really away from a computer and use your phone heavily, making it finger friendly is the main thing WM6.1 is missing. The GUI (and I mean the pull down menus) is what makes the difference for me. I was hesitating a lot with WM6.5 until Chanvi proved me step by step how WM6.5 can give me what i am looking for.
Other than that, the naked truth is a 64M RAM phone is a joke.
BigE

wm 6.1 is better u can do more

WM 6.5
Hi all
this is my first fost...sorry for my bad english.
After a lot of change now i'n usin PDA ROM WM6.5 V49.
It works very well...fast and stable. For me is the best one now.
bye

chanvi93 said:
Hello all
WM 6.1 is in the end and WM 6.5 is in beginning of development .
6.5 is faster , nicer , smoother etc... 6.1 but use 4 or 5 MB of RAM more , my latest wm 6.1 in Ultra Lite has more than 31 MB of RAM and latest 6.5 has only 27 MB and can to be daily use .
Hope this synthese help you .
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brother u r doing a good job but as u have said "WM 6.5 is in beginning of development" is right i have used ur lite 6.5 rom for couple of days and found is not stable as 6.1. (i m sorry if i have disappointed you)
i really appreciate your contribution to the forum and i will keep track of ur roms.
Thanks
regards

Please share your findings. How did you conclude its unstable?
Regards
sohil said:
brother u r doing a good job but as u have said "WM 6.5 is in beginning of development" is right i have used ur lite 6.5 rom for couple of days and found is not stable as 6.1. (i m sorry if i have disappointed you)
i really appreciate your contribution to the forum and i will keep track of ur roms.
Thanks
regards
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BigE said:
Folks,
I think Chanvi gave the best answer so let me just repeat it and add:
1. WM6.1 is at the end of the road. True, there isn't yet a phone that comes with WM6.5 but soon it will start.
2. WM6.1 has an advantage regarding free RAM. However, with some clever tweaks (using kitchens) it is possible to create a ROM that will serve ANY application that runs on WM6.1 to run on WM6.5
3. WM6.5 has more than few annoying bugs of WM6.1 resolved. Original WM6.1 used to have some major issues, such as lock users out with 'wrong password' and other MS crap. It was all fixed in WM6.5
4. The GUI in WM6.5 is great. It takes time to get used to it, and I was between the ones complaining about the change it took from WM6.1 but the naked truth is when i tried to be back to WM6.1 it was bad experience for me.
5. Finger friendly- I hardly use the stylus in WM6.5 So much easier than WM6.1 was.
6. Stability- Sorry to 'disappoint' you, but at least Chanvi came up with a set of ROMs that are too good to be true. not one crash since April (two months) , great memory management (no leaks) and good battery life. It isn't all WM6.5, it is , I think, because Chanvi and Oggi are very talanted. Nevertheless- WM6.5 is , by far, superior to WM6.1
And I was one of the people thinking WM6.5 was too heavy for our trinity..
To get you an idea: I run 3 email accounts (one exchange) , my today plugin is home2 (heavy graphics) and I use iGO8 for GPS navigation, with high resolution and 3D (but no TTS).
And lastly- it makes the phone beautiful. Whenever someone shows me his iPHONE/Samsung/HTC Fuze/whatever with standard ROM, and I show him my cooked WM6.5 on a 3 years old phone (!) it is impressive... and runs as good as theirs, if not better. 3 years in phone years is 21 years in dog years.. LOL.. so much for phones, especially XDA ones.
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I'm agree with almost everything you said, but I think those few MB of RAM consumption difference are critical. I installed CV93+Oggi WM 6.5 OS 21501 and since can't use iGO (I tried several versions, even the new amigo) and it always says "out of memory" after a few minutes in best case. So if you need any RAM hungry app 6.5 is not for you, in any other case it may be the best option.
My impressions are: battery works for much longer, about 10 more hours with low/normal use (no wifi or bt, just phone). Screen and phone perfomance are better, in apps it's the same than 6.1. And I didn't find any incompatible software.
If there was anyway to close CHome, like manilla, we could get a few more RAM.

juan_sck said:
I'm agree with almost everything you said, but I think those few MB of RAM consumption difference are critical. I installed CV93+Oggi WM 6.5 OS 21501 and since can't use iGO (I tried several versions, even the new amigo) and it always says "out of memory" after a few minutes in best case. So if you need any RAM hungry app 6.5 is not for you, in any other case it may be the best option.
My impressions are: battery works for much longer, about 10 more hours with low/normal use (no wifi or bt, just phone). Screen and phone perfomance are better, in apps it's the same than 6.1. And I didn't find any incompatible software.
If there was anyway to close CHome, like manilla, we could get a few more RAM.
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If you use Chanvi's latest WM 6.5 Kitchen, you can leave CHome and Manilla out completely! BigE is getting up to 29MB free in this way on one of his UltraLites. Without TTS, iGO8 breathes quite well on this.

SuperSport said:
If you use Chanvi's latest WM 6.5 Kitchen, you can leave CHome and Manilla out completely! BigE is getting up to 29MB free in this way on one of his UltraLites. Without TTS, iGO8 breathes quite well on this.
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I certainly do.. my best results were with the 21232 IE6UltraLite by Chanvi. 27M free RAM and 78M free storage. I skinned out M2D and CHOME (I use home2) and I run SKTOOLS to optimize memory. Joel from Pointui has created a home2 file that will send graphics to the storage memory, and on top I am using mToday to switch all home pluggins off before i run iGO. I get 23-26M free RAM (23 if I do not soft reset, 26 if I do) and can run iGO in high resolution and buildings, while syncing with 3 email accounts, get text messages and calls. If you have more need than that, than trinity is not for you. It is a 4 years old device with miserable 64M RAM... we are kind of beating a dead horse here, and Chanvi is able to give it a nice push and keep it alive before Diamond2 is released (I mean 3G supported around the world, not just EU, hard SPL released for unlocking, and decent forum activity to support it with cooks and testing).
The thing is, I have to admit, in order to make the device 'behave' it takes some tweaking and knowlegde, and it is not for the lazy or faint heart user..
BigE

[REQ] Manila 2.5 as a cab and then as a panel?

hi everybody is there any way to have the new manila 2.5 as a cab installer and then as a panel like i used to do whit manila 2.1? thanks

I wonder if that's possible? But if yes then that would be really nice.

This is a really good idea...who can help XDA members?

Actually I can't recommend installing TF3D by cab, because it consists of a lot (and I mean a lot, certainly 2.5!!) of files. And installing it by cab will make a huge impact on the system.
The first TF3D for X1 was available as a cab, but the diffence between installing by cab or cooked in where huge. TF3D by cab had all sorts of quirks and was slow a h*ll.....
FOr example, the manila 2.1 package alone is almost 40mb (and 2.5 is even bigger) so you end up with a cab of about 50mb.
But back to the point, haven't seen a cab of manila 2.5 (and there probably will not be one for the above reason).

thanks Lokatho for the esplaination, btw now that i know about the problem of a cab i was just wondering if a rom with a manila 2.5 PANEL could be built...

-=W1S3=- said:
hi everybody is there any way to have the new manila 2.5 as a cab installer and then as a panel like i used to do whit manila 2.1? thanks
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Found this online: http://www.pda4x.com/read.php?tid=103696
Guess they have CABbed Manila 2.5....interesting. Wonder what the file size is.
Now gotta look for a CAB to make it a panel.

angusrouse said:
Found this online: http://www.pda4x.com/read.php?tid=103696
Guess they have CABbed Manila 2.5....interesting. Wonder what the file size is.
Now gotta look for a CAB to make it a panel.
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It's just a manila 2.5 theme and not a manila 2.5 cab!!!
It was made by a XDA member and you can find it here

LoL
btw nice to see that my request is appreciated

Mopral said:
It's just a manila 2.5 theme and not a manila 2.5 cab!!!
It was made by a XDA member and you can find it here
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it possible to install in xperia with wm 6.1 ??

Lokatho said:
Actually I can't recommend installing TF3D by cab, because it consists of a lot (and I mean a lot, certainly 2.5!!) of files. And installing it by cab will make a huge impact on the system.
The first TF3D for X1 was available as a cab, but the diffence between installing by cab or cooked in where huge. TF3D by cab had all sorts of quirks and was slow a h*ll.....
FOr example, the manila 2.1 package alone is almost 40mb (and 2.5 is even bigger) so you end up with a cab of about 50mb.
But back to the point, haven't seen a cab of manila 2.5 (and there probably will not be one for the above reason).
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Make ROM that will preserve all user info and programs and i will update immediately.

Flash a ROM!
It would be really pointless to have a cab of 2.5, it would slow down your whole device and would barely run!
if you want 2.5, to the easiest and best way, flash to one of our chef's great ROMS!
I think that Valkyrie 3.2 is the best....but there are others....like NRG's wwe energyrom....and ITJE TOUCHIT LEO...
if you want 2.5 you need to flash!
and as far as a panel goes...it would be relativley pointless if you are already using 2.5 as your homescreen....
and if you are a NEWB....you should look and search into 2.5, the threads and roms before opening relatively pointless threads...
just my 2 cents

acidbath5546 said:
It would be really pointless to have a cab of 2.5, it would slow down your whole device and would barely run!
if you want 2.5, to the easiest and best way, flash to one of our chef's great ROMS!
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You are right, apart from the fact that (as stated out in my recent thread) you are supposing that everyone is in love with WM6.5.
I was looking as well for a cabbed Manila 2.5 to install it on WM6.1, so it would really be great to have it (or, have it cooked on a WM6.1)

there are modules and dll's for the new leo which wont work on 6.1

there is a manila 2 cab
linkt to thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448178
its a bit confusing, you have to download EnableRapi.cab first and install it. (in wont work the other way around, i tried it.
than you install the new manila 2 cab to internal memory. (that takes about 2 hours + in the tread are 3 different manilla cab files and only one has landscape i think, the beta3 but just use my link)
i have direct links to the files
EnableRapi cab: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300592 (you have to scroll down a bit till you see the file)
manila 2 cab: http://rapidshare.com/files/218194087/TF3DHDB3.cab
and about the speed of manila 2, i have it installed one week ago and it crashed 1 time so far because i pressed accidently on picture presentation and than on weather tab and than switched to landscape (that was too much xD). and tabs like programs, settings and weather always take some time to show up. (about 2-4 seconds) all other tabs are fast once they loaded the first time. landcape switch takes always around 4 secounds, never longer.
and someone said its a huge impact on the device to install a 45mb cab file, and that might be true, but i have installed like 3 different manilas and this one 3 times (and uninstalled again, it never worked because i always forgot something) i never hardresetted the x1 after all the installing and it still works quiet good.

forgot to say, its not a panel, just a today element. and im using winmo 6.1

Thanks to show them how to install manila 2.0 on Wm6.1 but they search a cab for manila 2.5

yes, i understood all you're saying, so i know that a rom with manila 2.5 in it will run better. Now that i know it, i'd like to know if with a rom like this will be possible to run the manila as a panel instead of run it as the standard today screen. I want this option just because i like to change today home screen very often and also because if i have manila 2.5 in use in the today and i open another panel, it will still run in backgroung, making the whole phone go slower...
(sorry for my bad english :S hope you'll understand it...)

rotastrain said:
there are modules and dll's for the new leo which wont work on 6.1
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Miri did a WM6.1 ROM with Leo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547278

Is the hermes powerful enough to run WM 6.5?

I've tried a few versions and the phone just crawls. Is the phone even able to run WM 6.5 at a decent speed or should I just give up and stick with 6.1.
Thanks!

Are there any vanilla 6.5 roms I can try on the Hermes?

Try Tai_SW's Hero 3... Seems OK to me...

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Try Tai_SW's Hero 3... Seems OK to me...
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and i'll try the other tai_Sw v27 manila2d rom and it works good for me...

It runs Tai's Herov3 but you will find yourself running out of memory all too quickly. If you want a smooth running phone with as little problems as possible then stick to 6.1.
If a stripped down, barebones 6.5.3 ROM appears I think it will be able to run that o.k.

I've been following with most of the developers here, the last stable 6.5 i can get on my phone was - WP6.5 Build 23016 WWE SAYANGKU V6.9. Anything after that, my phone will freeze.

I have to say, I don't tend to run out of memory with Hero 3... Must be what you do with it.
Also noticed, it doesn't shut down all apps when you kill them, you need to install xbutton or other app killer....

I loved the 6.5 "stock like" ROM that's floating around. I prefer 6.1 because you can use larger PPs though. SNES, ScummVM emulation, CorePlayer and WiFi speeds are superior on a nice 6.1 ROM with a large PP. Depends on what you want to do.

Same issues, went back to 6.1

ultramag69 said:
I have to say, I don't tend to run out of memory with Hero 3... Must be what you do with it.
Also noticed, it doesn't shut down all apps when you kill them, you need to install xbutton or other app killer....
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HTC X-button doesn't work with Hero3. I don't know a close button app that does work because of where the new 'x' button is.
Just using normal stuff like Coreplayer, OperaMini, etc. If I don't use SKTools Free Ram or Oxios I eventually, after a day or so get the 'out of memory' normally when starting the Comm Mananger.
If I want run IGO8 I have disable the today screen and then flush the memory on restart, this gives me around 23Mb free.

The new Showcase (search in the forums here) works for the 6.5.x builds (as a task manager).

is better to use the new xtask
it dont make slow your SMS app

Or the new ArkSwitch, which I prefer .

indiekiduk said:
vanilla 6.5
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Thats New

MindphaserXY said:
I loved the 6.5 "stock like" ROM that's floating around. I prefer 6.1 because you can use larger PPs though. SNES, ScummVM emulation, CorePlayer and WiFi speeds are superior on a nice 6.1 ROM with a large PP. Depends on what you want to do.
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I see you read very well congrats to you! can you teach all this guys why 6.5 is not so good for our old hermes... pleeeease!!!

dark vision
darkvbisions is the fastest for me i put spb mobile sheel on it at first i thought it was going to crawl like u said but its quite fast, but i install on my starage card

for closing the application you need to use showcase suite, it's the only one that work for me

wm 6.5 is very slow with hermes. memory issues freeze the phone a lot. i looking for decent stable 6.1 now

go for a 6.1 or 6 default rom and install spb mobile shell v3.0.1 on it.

kashifmehmood said:
go for a 6.1 or 6 default rom and install spb mobile shell v3.0.1 on it.
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I have to agree with that. The latest Mobile Shell is 3.5.x also add Expresso Theme.