[REQ] Manila 2.5 as a cab and then as a panel? - XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps

hi everybody is there any way to have the new manila 2.5 as a cab installer and then as a panel like i used to do whit manila 2.1? thanks

I wonder if that's possible? But if yes then that would be really nice.

This is a really good idea...who can help XDA members?

Actually I can't recommend installing TF3D by cab, because it consists of a lot (and I mean a lot, certainly 2.5!!) of files. And installing it by cab will make a huge impact on the system.
The first TF3D for X1 was available as a cab, but the diffence between installing by cab or cooked in where huge. TF3D by cab had all sorts of quirks and was slow a h*ll.....
FOr example, the manila 2.1 package alone is almost 40mb (and 2.5 is even bigger) so you end up with a cab of about 50mb.
But back to the point, haven't seen a cab of manila 2.5 (and there probably will not be one for the above reason).

thanks Lokatho for the esplaination, btw now that i know about the problem of a cab i was just wondering if a rom with a manila 2.5 PANEL could be built...

-=W1S3=- said:
hi everybody is there any way to have the new manila 2.5 as a cab installer and then as a panel like i used to do whit manila 2.1? thanks
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Found this online: http://www.pda4x.com/read.php?tid=103696
Guess they have CABbed Manila 2.5....interesting. Wonder what the file size is.
Now gotta look for a CAB to make it a panel.

angusrouse said:
Found this online: http://www.pda4x.com/read.php?tid=103696
Guess they have CABbed Manila 2.5....interesting. Wonder what the file size is.
Now gotta look for a CAB to make it a panel.
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It's just a manila 2.5 theme and not a manila 2.5 cab!!!
It was made by a XDA member and you can find it here

LoL
btw nice to see that my request is appreciated

Mopral said:
It's just a manila 2.5 theme and not a manila 2.5 cab!!!
It was made by a XDA member and you can find it here
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it possible to install in xperia with wm 6.1 ??

Lokatho said:
Actually I can't recommend installing TF3D by cab, because it consists of a lot (and I mean a lot, certainly 2.5!!) of files. And installing it by cab will make a huge impact on the system.
The first TF3D for X1 was available as a cab, but the diffence between installing by cab or cooked in where huge. TF3D by cab had all sorts of quirks and was slow a h*ll.....
FOr example, the manila 2.1 package alone is almost 40mb (and 2.5 is even bigger) so you end up with a cab of about 50mb.
But back to the point, haven't seen a cab of manila 2.5 (and there probably will not be one for the above reason).
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Make ROM that will preserve all user info and programs and i will update immediately.

Flash a ROM!
It would be really pointless to have a cab of 2.5, it would slow down your whole device and would barely run!
if you want 2.5, to the easiest and best way, flash to one of our chef's great ROMS!
I think that Valkyrie 3.2 is the best....but there are others....like NRG's wwe energyrom....and ITJE TOUCHIT LEO...
if you want 2.5 you need to flash!
and as far as a panel goes...it would be relativley pointless if you are already using 2.5 as your homescreen....
and if you are a NEWB....you should look and search into 2.5, the threads and roms before opening relatively pointless threads...
just my 2 cents

acidbath5546 said:
It would be really pointless to have a cab of 2.5, it would slow down your whole device and would barely run!
if you want 2.5, to the easiest and best way, flash to one of our chef's great ROMS!
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You are right, apart from the fact that (as stated out in my recent thread) you are supposing that everyone is in love with WM6.5.
I was looking as well for a cabbed Manila 2.5 to install it on WM6.1, so it would really be great to have it (or, have it cooked on a WM6.1)

there are modules and dll's for the new leo which wont work on 6.1

there is a manila 2 cab
linkt to thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448178
its a bit confusing, you have to download EnableRapi.cab first and install it. (in wont work the other way around, i tried it.
than you install the new manila 2 cab to internal memory. (that takes about 2 hours + in the tread are 3 different manilla cab files and only one has landscape i think, the beta3 but just use my link)
i have direct links to the files
EnableRapi cab: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300592 (you have to scroll down a bit till you see the file)
manila 2 cab: http://rapidshare.com/files/218194087/TF3DHDB3.cab
and about the speed of manila 2, i have it installed one week ago and it crashed 1 time so far because i pressed accidently on picture presentation and than on weather tab and than switched to landscape (that was too much xD). and tabs like programs, settings and weather always take some time to show up. (about 2-4 seconds) all other tabs are fast once they loaded the first time. landcape switch takes always around 4 secounds, never longer.
and someone said its a huge impact on the device to install a 45mb cab file, and that might be true, but i have installed like 3 different manilas and this one 3 times (and uninstalled again, it never worked because i always forgot something) i never hardresetted the x1 after all the installing and it still works quiet good.

forgot to say, its not a panel, just a today element. and im using winmo 6.1

Thanks to show them how to install manila 2.0 on Wm6.1 but they search a cab for manila 2.5

yes, i understood all you're saying, so i know that a rom with manila 2.5 in it will run better. Now that i know it, i'd like to know if with a rom like this will be possible to run the manila as a panel instead of run it as the standard today screen. I want this option just because i like to change today home screen very often and also because if i have manila 2.5 in use in the today and i open another panel, it will still run in backgroung, making the whole phone go slower...
(sorry for my bad english :S hope you'll understand it...)

rotastrain said:
there are modules and dll's for the new leo which wont work on 6.1
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Miri did a WM6.1 ROM with Leo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547278

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HTC Home Plugin working on Dell x51v (wm6.1) with simple hack

I have tried this hack on the MAKUU wm6.1 beta6 "pure" and on the Lennysh wm6.1 beta 2.1 preview for my Dell Axim x51v.
See thread here: http://forum.lennysh.com/showthread.php?t=182
Basically you need the fake phone/sms DLL hack before installing the HTC plugin.
All files found here on XDA-Devs, but forgot where. So cred to the devs that first posted the files. Found clue for hack in the "Midlet Bible" by Menneisyys.
Also the HTC Home Plugin Customizer v1.0 Final found here works great!!
-NonPaq
Update: LennySH was kind enough to combine a version of HTC Home Plugin VGA with the two DLLs included in a cab for quick and easy installation. See Post #15 for Download.
thank you very much spent a lot of time on trying to get this work
@all
you need to put the dll files in windows folder..
Awesome! Man, I've been looking for ways to get it to work. I gave up and instead, used lrToday with my own clock skin. Now, I can truly get rid of that and try this. Thanks for posting this solution!
Just reflashed with LennySH edition (2.1) and I'm having problems customizing with Home Plugin Customizer v1.0. It goes through all the options, but saving does not change the plugin. I know this used to work (just look at the image). Let me know if you able to change the configurations.
BTW, is this the best "VGA version" of the plugin? The text is very small.
Dont know what I did other than reinstalling the Homeplug, but now the HTC Home Customizer works.
I experimented with installing PocketCM again (scrolling contacts). Previously, the application would immediately bomb out with missing component error. This time it actually ran!! Unfortunately its immediately closing down after loading the contacts, but at the PCM forums it appears to be a wm6.1 problem.
Looks like these fake DLLs may also allow other phone apps to now work on our non-phone Axim. (perhaps even other non-phone devices).
(I changed Homeplug to transparent backgroung, iphone icons, and silver streak clock. All auto downloaded with HTC Home Customizer.)
nonpaq
Mine doesn't work. I copied the dll files over to the Windows directory. Installed the cab file and all it shows on my Today Screen is a line separated where the HTC Home Plugin should be. BTW - haven't install the customizer yet.
Running makuu's pure 6.1 rom.
mphayvanh said:
nonpaq
Mine doesn't work. I copied the dll files over to the Windows directory. Installed the cab file and all it shows on my Today Screen is a line separated where the HTC Home Plugin should be. BTW - haven't install the customizer yet.
Running makuu's pure 6.1 rom.
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I originally did this on Makuu's 6.1 pure, so I dont know what is happening. Did you reboot after install? I never did not try it in RealVGA mode however.
Pst... btw, Makuu "leaked" that he will be releasing a new rom with HomePlug built in. My discovery may just be too little too late for Makuu fans.
It will not have the plugin built in, but it will support the installation natively without any tricks. I'll post the link to the rom in few minutes.
Not sure why it's not working. Maybe I'll wait for Makuu's next release. I'll stick with Moble Shell 2 for now. Thanks.
Does it works on WM6 ? (Not 6.1)
My X51v runs the Makuu WM6 FR, and I Wanted to try this homme plug for a long time.
Does it works on WM6 ? (Not 6.1)
My X51v runs the Makuu WM6 FR, and I Wanted to try this homme plug for a long time.
I wouldn't like to hard reset ...
miljbee said:
Does it works on WM6 ? (Not 6.1)
My X51v runs the Makuu WM6 FR, and I Wanted to try this homme plug for a long time.
I wouldn't like to hard reset ...
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http://www.ppccool.com/index.php?showtopic=8352
it is a very nice looking plugin, but is it possible to change the tabs like contacts to another launcher?
If 2 or 3 tabs (on a total of 6) aren't usefull on a non-phone device, I won't have it on mine.
ok worked until I changed the theme color with mobile shell 2.. now only a seperator and free space where the plugin should be.. but I think there are better programs out there right now especially ultimate launcher
Attached is a modified cab install for the two attachments in the 1st post. Although this is the older version, I'm at work and can't post a newer version of HTC Home so I decided to go ahead and post this one for people not comfortable with copying files. Just install this cab, and soft reset.
Is there any way that the plugin grows a little bit because it is too small!

Touchflo 2d Manila On Artemis Working Great

FOR WHO WANTS ORIGINAL TOUCHFLO 2D MANILA ON ARTEMIS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425694
IT WORKS REALLY FINE AND SMOOTH ON
I HAVE AN ARTEMIS ANJA AND MOSSI ROM 6.1
i second this on yues extra-clean!
greetz
p.s. one thing i really dont fancy about those manila guys is their not displaying the version details in the cab name, this way you find various .cab version posted everywhere and never know which one it is!
this 1 is much better thn all those throttle launcher themes
... just one thing i am missing:
how to change the buttons of the bottom row- order and showing buttons-- i just dont need all of them!
greetz
p.s.. the manila dialer is cooked into yue_v9.1 extraclean !!!!
thormdac edit the file HTCHomeSettings.xml search for tabs and disable what you wont!i gonna try to make a lite version... the last cab install around 330 files to windows directory!!! insane
I haven't tried that combined package yet, but everything installed from single packages works fine on Tom's oops.
Are you going to release this rom in a single package?
zoko said:
thormdac edit the file HTCHomeSettings.xml search for tabs and disable what you wont!i gonna try to make a lite version... the last cab install around 330 files to windows directory!!! insane
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will try that!
would be nice if you could make a light version
thanx
Works but not so impressed
Tested it on YuE's clean rom, it works but that's all.
Don't find it so spectacular cause I work with SPB Mobile Shell 2.0 with Diamondskin 2.1
This Manilla thing it's a combination of Spb Mobile Shell Diamond Theme & Throttlelauncher.
BUT it would be nice to implement in any new roms, don't like the HTC Diamond home plugin in the middle of the screen... And they cannot implement the Mobile Shell 2.0 with Diamond theme as homescreen cause it's not freeware...
Only the clock is not so nice on the startup screen, but this can maybe be changed.
just installed it on my artemis touch 4.02 lite no cube rom, it took about ten minutes to install, then when i restarted it about 7 minutes for the pda to load back up, and everything was so sluggish ! I then tried to uninstall it and that took about 15 mins then gave up and said it could'nt uninstall it properly.
Thanks god i have a sprite backup to restore.
It may have been my fault though, i selected install to storage card ? or maybe it just installs to windows anyway.
oh well...
you must install to the device, even though it lets you choose.
oh well i cant even restore, so i have to reflash again, what a pain
i tend to agree,
even on my rocket fast yue extraclean, i feel extremely slowed down (in comparison to without it) in trade for which gain?- optics? hope we can lighten this baby down
greetz
corky said:
just installed it on my artemis touch 4.02 lite no cube rom, it took about ten minutes to install, then when i restarted it about 7 minutes for the pda to load back up, and everything was so sluggish ! I then tried to uninstall it and that took about 15 mins then gave up and said it could'nt uninstall it properly.
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The same for me (with an extralight rom and installing Manila 2d in device).
It works but.......very slowwww.
I unistalled it (correctly) but starting time after soft reset was too long: only solution a hard reset.
What about RAM consuption... What can you tell me about it?
I'm also uninstalling it, Spb Mobile Shell with Diamondskin 2.1 is much nicer to work with...
I haven't experienced any slow down of my P3300 with this either...
The Manilla 2D is still in beta, maybe some programmers can speed it up so that rom-builders can cook it in their roms.
HI,
I don't know why your manila 2d is slow , I only can suppose that must install a wm 6.1 diamond rom based , for example i get the anja and mossi on it , or must look for some rom similar
My manila 2d it is fast and works really well, anyway before installing it I uninstall all gui stuff like SPB shell
I installed manila on memory device and not on sd card
I have 14 MB ram free once manila is working , and is working well
i second to the past users' comments
i have tom's oops black 1.0 installed, and i've installed manilla on my device.
everyone should agree that touchFLO 3D aka manilla wasnt actually designed for artemis.. bt it was targeted for diamond which has higher ROM, higher RAM and a higher processors with a graphics device to assist its processes. it would be slow on any device with 128MB ROM and 64MB RAM and a 200MHz processor.
however, its not that slow.. i have 15MB free after Manilla is up and running after power-on.. i can use other applications fine.. bt surely the startup is slow.. takes a bit of patience heheh..
anyway its nice work from another xda developer.. i greatly appreciate ur work...
i've been using manilla on my artemis since it was launched for artemis.. im happy abt it..
hope that somebody can make it less bloating, more efficient, faster and more usable with better customizations..
xda developers rules!
thormdac said:
i tend to agree,
even on my rocket fast yue extraclean, i feel extremely slowed down (in comparison to without it) in trade for which gain?- optics? hope we can lighten this baby down
greetz
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how about reflashing but this time with 8mb pagepool ?
From where can I download Touch flo Manilla 2D or 3D even for my artemis (arte110)?

[REQ] ROM with Manila 2D

Why don't cook a ROM with TOUCHFLO2D? Our Diamond could be faster!
Yeah this sounds like a good idea! I would personally prefer a blazing fugging fast 1.93 2D ROM than a sluggish 1.93 3D ROM... (Black Diamond theme of course )
i agree with you...
i use a ROM without TF3d (french Diamondstone rom) and i install Opal version of TF2d (found on this forum) and it work very fine, much faster tan the 3d version
maybe someone can try to cook this way.
it looks good on your device? since its qvga... or did someone edit it to work on vga?
o yar a faster diamond
just what i need..
the 3d is nice and all.. but after a while.. gets tired looking at it.. and besides the 2d version aint that bad...
and the analog clock is so much cooler...
Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
Riel said:
I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
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Not with every Rom, so 2d is much faster.
RideTheTube said:
Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
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Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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thanks a lot bro!
It would be great to have ROM with TF2D! it will result in much faster diamond, extra stogare and memory.
hope one of our great developers will work on it.
cheers.
Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
simcarloc said:
Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
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Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
The ultimate ROM!
losdrivare said:
Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
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I agree completely! With that kind of speed (like with the tf2d) this ui would be an IPhone killer...
The only thing I am wondering about is, that nobody (as far as I have seen) yet inlcuded a proper SMS (only) Tool (like in iContacts, but without the contacts), because the WM5 version is indiscribably bad..
To bring it to a point (and I hope this is not too far off this topic): Why has nobody yet created a rom that comes standard with S2U2 installed and something like iContact (which directly replaces all the WM5 contacts and the links i.e. from tf3d / tf2d) and a Programs/settings views like in iPhonez(but only that part not the whole iPhonez, we want a killer, not a copy!). and last but not least something like a proper touch-fileexplorer like resco explorer2008(i simply mean the size of the file entries and a little revamping of the original fileexplorer, maybe there is one already?)
If a ROM like that would be put together well (and one of these capable cooks are able to include these tools much deeper and better than when a user installs them into the ROM) we could finally beat the iPhone! (I know its not about beating the iphone, but fact is that the diamond has one nice tf3d tool on top of the same old WM5 which in its original rom is slaggishly slow and is then supposed to beat the well thought through iPhone?? Of course not! there is no alternative that brings the same quality of UI - YET, BUT:
All these great programmers that took their time to create good apps (like iPhonez, iContact, ThumpCal, S2U2, etc..) if (and I know it probably is a challenge to get their agreement to put their stuff in a rom) this would be put togethere into one well made rom, the diamond would be unbeatable!!!!!!
Then get this ROM a bit known as the iphone-killer and this will be picked up in the public a bit more.. finally it could turn out that all these nice programmers get a big bunch of money so that their stuff or a version of it will be used as a permanent part of a stock rom and we all are happy because we will have the best phone ever, made by the people for the people! WHAT A VISION! and its realistic, too! Let's go and use the synergy of all the great cooks and developers and create the SUPER-ROM!!!!
I am ready to pay good developer 50USD to include the existing tools into a personalized ROM, just to have something that prooves the idea and convince the guys to give their permission. (and also to have that myself! )
So who wants the ultimate ROM!!
avers can u give us all the edited files of the tf2d vga u are using ? thanks
avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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Where can I find this VGA skin (the one in the attached thumnail)
Thank you

The new TF3D on my windows 6.1

Hi ive been searching the forums trying 2 find the new touchflo 3d to install on my my blackstone and i cant find it i wonder if any would could point me in the right direction so i can install the new 2.5 touchflo on my devices
cheers callum
TouchFLo 2.5 isn't ready for actual use yet. You'll have to wait a little while longer until a lot of bugs are worked out. Just keep an eye on the ROMZ section as I'm sure it will pop up soon enough. There is a rom out right now that has TouchFLo 2.5 in it but GSM is crippled so you cannot send text messages as well as some other problems. There is a link in this thread to a cooked ROM with touchflo 2.5 if you want to try it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530584&page=3
Thanks for the replay i want the same touchflo version on miris 6.5 rom which is the same as the touch diamond 2 is that version availble 2 install on 6.1
cheers callum
The most up to date version of manila that I have seen cooked into roms is TouchFLo v2.1, but I have not seen this available as a cab. Then again, I never look for cab versions of TouchFlo. I personally use Dutty's 3.9XT Turbo rom. It is WM6.1 and is available with manila V2.1. Great rom, fast, and stable. Sorry I can't tell you where to find a .cab file for touchflo v2.1 though.
Thanks for your reply il look for a .cab. i flashed miris 6.5 which had manila but i found that if made the camera a lot pixely maybe it was just me so i flash back to the htc wm6.1 im a bit gutted that the htc touch hd is not getting the 6.5 upgrade and was thinking of selling a getting a diamond 2
cheers callum
Manilla Cab
Really not sure u can find one with that, also do you know how big a
cab file with that would be? will take 1hour to install it!
but good luck and hope u find what u looking for..
Obalia73
No CAB for Manilla 2.0 or 2.1. Never has been, probably never will be. Only ever seen it cooked into the ROM.

New manilla?

I read somewhere there is manilla2d 2.5? Im not certain but i though i saw a new menu on top of the sliding menu on the bottom? Maybe it was a theme also, could someone send me a link and possibly a guide how to get spb mobile shell on my vogue? i couldnt find one on here. Thanks.
manana12 said:
I read somewhere there is manilla2d 2.5? Im not certain but i though i saw a new menu on top of the sliding menu on the bottom? Maybe it was a theme also, could someone send me a link and possibly a guide how to get spb mobile shell on my vogue? i couldnt find one on here. Thanks.
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Manila 2.5 will not work on the Vogue.
To get Mobile Shell, you just need to go to their SPB's website and download it, here is a link...
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
manana12 said:
I read somewhere there is manilla2d 2.5? Im not certain but i though i saw a new menu on top of the sliding menu on the bottom? Maybe it was a theme also, could someone send me a link and possibly a guide how to get spb mobile shell on my vogue? i couldnt find one on here. Thanks.
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For further clarification, there is no such thing as "manilla 2d 2.5"
The latest manilla 2d is 2.0 1919.1432 from the "mega"
Confusingly the latest Manilla 3d is also ver 1919 (leo), however 2.1 and 2.5 generally refer to manilla 3d (also known as TouchFlo, now "sense")
Manilla 2d is the version of Manilla without 3d animations, and runs on devices with less processing power annd RAM. That being said, the latest version does feature an actual flipping clock.
Manilla 3d is feature and animation rich. It was first seen on the Diamond, then others such as TouchPro, HD etc. The latest version comes form the Leo aka HD2.
Our Vogue does not use M3D, the processor and ram aren't enough and we would need hardware supported openGL to run it. NFSFAN came close, but not close enough.
jmitr said:
For further clarification, there is no such thing as "manilla 2d 2.5"
The latest manilla 2d is 2.0 1919.1432 from the "mega"
Confusingly the latest Manilla 3d is also ver 1919 (leo), however 2.1 and 2.5 generally refer to manilla 3d (also known as TouchFlo, now "sense")
Manilla 2d is the version of Manilla without 3d animations, and runs on devices with less processing power annd RAM. That being said, the latest version does feature an actual flipping clock.
Manilla 3d is feature and animation rich. It was first seen on the Diamond, then others such as TouchPro, HD etc. The latest version comes form the Leo aka HD2.
Our Vogue does not use M3D, the processor and ram aren't enough and we would need hardware supported openGL to run it. NFSFAN came close, but not close enough.
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Nice explanation
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Nice explanation
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Completely agree.
Also, what do you mean NSFAN came close?
manana12 said:
Completely agree.
Also, what do you mean NSFAN came close?
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A while back, when M2D was being ported to QVGA devices, there were developers (including Chainfire and herg) who were working towards getting TF3D to work on QVGA. However, it was too complicated due to the fact that a bunch of this was coded in lua and there were thousands of images that needed to be scaled down from VGA to QVGA. Long story short, that project stopped once M2D came out as it was "good enough". I believe NFSFan was part of that development team as well, which is why he mentioned that he "came close".
Crap, and i just spent the last 2 hrs searching the net for a QVGA Manila 2.6 for my Vogue.
edgarpoe said:
Crap, and i just spent the last 2 hrs searching the net for a QVGA Manila 2.6 for my Vogue.
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...Only to encounter my very philosophical revelation about M2D

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