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TouchFlo 3D

Check this out
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=46294
does someonae has the new HTC touch 3d........-----
I WANT IT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

isnt it only for htc touch diamond?

It isn't out yet. The 3d Touchflo Interface debuts with the HTC Diamond. Should be out by June/July.

I forgot to mention that the 3d Touchflo Interface demands better hardware and memory than most of the devices any of us has currently. The chances that it will run smoothly with our devices are very slim.

I think its a little sluggish on Touch Diamond itseld from what Ive heard from some of those who attended the press event.
Imagining it on Artemis could only be a joke.. It requires a GPU. And it also looks like this application has a lot of locks preventing cookers from porting. But still XDA-dev has much better hackers to overcome those. Lets wait for the devices on the market first.
Regards,
Carty..

here is a couple of words...i'd like to have 3d,but i suppose its not possible
However, a TouchFLO 3D upgrade for current HTC Touch smartphones (like the Touch, Touch Dual or Touch Cruise) isn't planned due to increased and changed hardware requirements.
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if this was called HTC manila when it was in the development stage then i hav a ver of this(cab file) which is meant for VGA screen PPCs only

fair does that phone looks stunning,i was gonna get the orbit 2, but the diamond is much faster and better looking, quite looking forward to this one

After see Pontui Home runing so smoothly on my Artemis, I have a little hope that this programa will not demand a Hi-end hardware to run. I HOPE!!!

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working man said:
After see Pontui Home runing so smoothly on my Artemis, I have a little hope that this programa will not demand a Hi-end hardware to run. I HOPE!!!
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that same . too

CAB File
Can you post this CAB file?
sheennick123456:
if this was called HTC manila when it was in the development stage then i hav a ver of this(cab file) which is meant for VGA screen PPCs only
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HTC manila AKA touch flo 3D
here you go
http://www.4shared.com/file/47016031/5436a738/manila1001030release.html
i checked it........it is the same user interface tht is in the htc diamond
but remember it is only for VGA ppcs n wont work on artemis
some people hav tried it on various VGA ppcs n the app runs only on HTC made ppcs(doesnt work on O2 XDA flame)
u may get framerates like 10-15fps

I have a X50v that's with my friend. I'll make a try...

Hi, In this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363500&page=14
a developer called dobb try to adapt the manila VGA to QVGA and release a version alpha and beta that works in the qvga devices but obviously run slow and need to adapt the soft buttons. You can install the cab of VGA version and the dll's, thus overwrite the files in manila folder with the alpha or beta version of QVGA.(This version need to polish more)
The version posted for sheennick123456 was a beta of touchflo3d leaked in january 2008, and with greater reason, the actual version should run faster.
I have no doubt that any developer here not only achieved by extracting the touchflo3d but also the driver to run correctly.
Think about that:
When "Touch" released, HTC said the touchflo could only run on those Devices because of the special hardware (screen), but there are many of us who run the touchflo in our Artemis without such hardware (screen).
Greetings

really it isn't working... i installed it and i don't know how to uninstall.. anybody??

it creates a folder named manila somewhere in the device memory
i dont recollect the exact path but i guess it is in the my documents
all u have to do is delete this folder

If you want to uninstall you have to:
delete the folder in Program Files/Manila
delete all registry in HKLM/software/microsoft/today/items/manila
delete manilatoday.dll in windows folder
I tried in my artemis and works slowly but the second beta needs more work.

ryomahino said:
If you want to uninstall you have to:
delete the folder in Program Files/Manila
delete all registry in HKLM/software/microsoft/today/items/manila
delete manilatoday.dll in windows folder
I tried in my artemis and works slowly but the second beta needs more work.
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that's what i did on "blind" thanks anyway... let's hope that some of the "gods" over here will adjust it for Artemis

Dont works on Kaiser WM6....

I have one, battery sucks. it's ok kinda hard to get around
cvenk said:
Check this out
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=46294
does someonae has the new HTC touch 3d........-----
I WANT IT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I have one it'ss hard to move around and remember keys, battery sucks too,

[REQ] ROM with Manila 2D

Why don't cook a ROM with TOUCHFLO2D? Our Diamond could be faster!

Yeah this sounds like a good idea! I would personally prefer a blazing fugging fast 1.93 2D ROM than a sluggish 1.93 3D ROM... (Black Diamond theme of course )

i agree with you...
i use a ROM without TF3d (french Diamondstone rom) and i install Opal version of TF2d (found on this forum) and it work very fine, much faster tan the 3d version
maybe someone can try to cook this way.

it looks good on your device? since its qvga... or did someone edit it to work on vga?

o yar a faster diamond
just what i need..
the 3d is nice and all.. but after a while.. gets tired looking at it.. and besides the 2d version aint that bad...
and the analog clock is so much cooler...

Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices

I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?

Riel said:
I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
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Not with every Rom, so 2d is much faster.

RideTheTube said:
Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
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Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.

avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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thanks a lot bro!

It would be great to have ROM with TF2D! it will result in much faster diamond, extra stogare and memory.
hope one of our great developers will work on it.
cheers.

Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)

simcarloc said:
Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
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Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.

The ultimate ROM!
losdrivare said:
Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
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I agree completely! With that kind of speed (like with the tf2d) this ui would be an IPhone killer...
The only thing I am wondering about is, that nobody (as far as I have seen) yet inlcuded a proper SMS (only) Tool (like in iContacts, but without the contacts), because the WM5 version is indiscribably bad..
To bring it to a point (and I hope this is not too far off this topic): Why has nobody yet created a rom that comes standard with S2U2 installed and something like iContact (which directly replaces all the WM5 contacts and the links i.e. from tf3d / tf2d) and a Programs/settings views like in iPhonez(but only that part not the whole iPhonez, we want a killer, not a copy!). and last but not least something like a proper touch-fileexplorer like resco explorer2008(i simply mean the size of the file entries and a little revamping of the original fileexplorer, maybe there is one already?)
If a ROM like that would be put together well (and one of these capable cooks are able to include these tools much deeper and better than when a user installs them into the ROM) we could finally beat the iPhone! (I know its not about beating the iphone, but fact is that the diamond has one nice tf3d tool on top of the same old WM5 which in its original rom is slaggishly slow and is then supposed to beat the well thought through iPhone?? Of course not! there is no alternative that brings the same quality of UI - YET, BUT:
All these great programmers that took their time to create good apps (like iPhonez, iContact, ThumpCal, S2U2, etc..) if (and I know it probably is a challenge to get their agreement to put their stuff in a rom) this would be put togethere into one well made rom, the diamond would be unbeatable!!!!!!
Then get this ROM a bit known as the iphone-killer and this will be picked up in the public a bit more.. finally it could turn out that all these nice programmers get a big bunch of money so that their stuff or a version of it will be used as a permanent part of a stock rom and we all are happy because we will have the best phone ever, made by the people for the people! WHAT A VISION! and its realistic, too! Let's go and use the synergy of all the great cooks and developers and create the SUPER-ROM!!!!
I am ready to pay good developer 50USD to include the existing tools into a personalized ROM, just to have something that prooves the idea and convince the guys to give their permission. (and also to have that myself! )
So who wants the ultimate ROM!!

avers can u give us all the edited files of the tf2d vga u are using ? thanks

avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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Where can I find this VGA skin (the one in the attached thumnail)
Thank you

Dear Tai & Josh are we expecting using the XBMOD Manilla 3D

are we expecting using the XBMOD Manilla 3D in your cooked ROM
as they are using it with The Diamond and HD as well as Rhodium
They are look beautifull

I don't believe we have enough ram in the Hermes to support manilla3D

Thats VGA and Hermies is QVGA so i doubt that will ever happen besides even the ported QVGA 3D manilla doesn't work on the Hermies.

MrDSL said:
Thats VGA and Hermies is QVGA so i doubt that will ever happen besides even the ported QVGA 3D manilla doesn't work on the Hermies.
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yea and "hermies" lol has no 3d drivers

joshkoss said:
yea and "hermies" lol has no 3d drivers
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but last time I read on Kaiser thread that HTC also does not release a 3D driver for Kaiser, that's why TF3D does not really working smooth in Kaiser too.

Hi Dude,
Yesterday i have tried to add XBMod Manila 3D, it don't work...can't read all the files. I have changed a lot of files in XML, Provxml and pgn and many things but no result. So, i gave up and never try again. It's not posible to get the drive 3D running.

TAI_Sw said:
Hi Dude,
Yesterday i have tried to add XBMod Manila 3D, it don't work...can't read all the files. I have changed a lot of files in XML, Provxml and pgn and many things but no result. So, i gave up and never try again. It's not posible to get the drive 3D running.
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Thanks a Lot , at least you try it

[REQ] Manila 2.5 as a cab and then as a panel?

hi everybody is there any way to have the new manila 2.5 as a cab installer and then as a panel like i used to do whit manila 2.1? thanks

I wonder if that's possible? But if yes then that would be really nice.

This is a really good idea...who can help XDA members?

Actually I can't recommend installing TF3D by cab, because it consists of a lot (and I mean a lot, certainly 2.5!!) of files. And installing it by cab will make a huge impact on the system.
The first TF3D for X1 was available as a cab, but the diffence between installing by cab or cooked in where huge. TF3D by cab had all sorts of quirks and was slow a h*ll.....
FOr example, the manila 2.1 package alone is almost 40mb (and 2.5 is even bigger) so you end up with a cab of about 50mb.
But back to the point, haven't seen a cab of manila 2.5 (and there probably will not be one for the above reason).

thanks Lokatho for the esplaination, btw now that i know about the problem of a cab i was just wondering if a rom with a manila 2.5 PANEL could be built...

-=W1S3=- said:
hi everybody is there any way to have the new manila 2.5 as a cab installer and then as a panel like i used to do whit manila 2.1? thanks
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Found this online: http://www.pda4x.com/read.php?tid=103696
Guess they have CABbed Manila 2.5....interesting. Wonder what the file size is.
Now gotta look for a CAB to make it a panel.

angusrouse said:
Found this online: http://www.pda4x.com/read.php?tid=103696
Guess they have CABbed Manila 2.5....interesting. Wonder what the file size is.
Now gotta look for a CAB to make it a panel.
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It's just a manila 2.5 theme and not a manila 2.5 cab!!!
It was made by a XDA member and you can find it here

LoL
btw nice to see that my request is appreciated

Mopral said:
It's just a manila 2.5 theme and not a manila 2.5 cab!!!
It was made by a XDA member and you can find it here
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it possible to install in xperia with wm 6.1 ??

Lokatho said:
Actually I can't recommend installing TF3D by cab, because it consists of a lot (and I mean a lot, certainly 2.5!!) of files. And installing it by cab will make a huge impact on the system.
The first TF3D for X1 was available as a cab, but the diffence between installing by cab or cooked in where huge. TF3D by cab had all sorts of quirks and was slow a h*ll.....
FOr example, the manila 2.1 package alone is almost 40mb (and 2.5 is even bigger) so you end up with a cab of about 50mb.
But back to the point, haven't seen a cab of manila 2.5 (and there probably will not be one for the above reason).
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Make ROM that will preserve all user info and programs and i will update immediately.

Flash a ROM!
It would be really pointless to have a cab of 2.5, it would slow down your whole device and would barely run!
if you want 2.5, to the easiest and best way, flash to one of our chef's great ROMS!
I think that Valkyrie 3.2 is the best....but there are others....like NRG's wwe energyrom....and ITJE TOUCHIT LEO...
if you want 2.5 you need to flash!
and as far as a panel goes...it would be relativley pointless if you are already using 2.5 as your homescreen....
and if you are a NEWB....you should look and search into 2.5, the threads and roms before opening relatively pointless threads...
just my 2 cents

acidbath5546 said:
It would be really pointless to have a cab of 2.5, it would slow down your whole device and would barely run!
if you want 2.5, to the easiest and best way, flash to one of our chef's great ROMS!
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You are right, apart from the fact that (as stated out in my recent thread) you are supposing that everyone is in love with WM6.5.
I was looking as well for a cabbed Manila 2.5 to install it on WM6.1, so it would really be great to have it (or, have it cooked on a WM6.1)

there are modules and dll's for the new leo which wont work on 6.1

there is a manila 2 cab
linkt to thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448178
its a bit confusing, you have to download EnableRapi.cab first and install it. (in wont work the other way around, i tried it.
than you install the new manila 2 cab to internal memory. (that takes about 2 hours + in the tread are 3 different manilla cab files and only one has landscape i think, the beta3 but just use my link)
i have direct links to the files
EnableRapi cab: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300592 (you have to scroll down a bit till you see the file)
manila 2 cab: http://rapidshare.com/files/218194087/TF3DHDB3.cab
and about the speed of manila 2, i have it installed one week ago and it crashed 1 time so far because i pressed accidently on picture presentation and than on weather tab and than switched to landscape (that was too much xD). and tabs like programs, settings and weather always take some time to show up. (about 2-4 seconds) all other tabs are fast once they loaded the first time. landcape switch takes always around 4 secounds, never longer.
and someone said its a huge impact on the device to install a 45mb cab file, and that might be true, but i have installed like 3 different manilas and this one 3 times (and uninstalled again, it never worked because i always forgot something) i never hardresetted the x1 after all the installing and it still works quiet good.

forgot to say, its not a panel, just a today element. and im using winmo 6.1

Thanks to show them how to install manila 2.0 on Wm6.1 but they search a cab for manila 2.5

yes, i understood all you're saying, so i know that a rom with manila 2.5 in it will run better. Now that i know it, i'd like to know if with a rom like this will be possible to run the manila as a panel instead of run it as the standard today screen. I want this option just because i like to change today home screen very often and also because if i have manila 2.5 in use in the today and i open another panel, it will still run in backgroung, making the whole phone go slower...
(sorry for my bad english :S hope you'll understand it...)

rotastrain said:
there are modules and dll's for the new leo which wont work on 6.1
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Miri did a WM6.1 ROM with Leo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547278

Will we be able to use TF3D2.5 on Diamond

I see that htc have released a new version of Touch Flo 3D (version 2.5), which looks fantastic.
I would like to know if anyone believes that we will be able to get this to work on the Toch Diamond, or will I have to buy the htc Hero to benefit from this kind of interface ?
Regards
Chad

Well now it's being ported to VGA, it would probably eat up a lot of RAM but it probably would work.

Wow! It's already being ported?

How much ram compared with native Diamond manilla or yoz 2.1?
I think yoz 2.1 is already the limit that Diamond1 can have to be able to successful use more than one program at time or run a GPS program.

flitzjoy said:
How much ram compared with native Diamond manilla or yoz 2.1?
I think yoz 2.1 is already the limit that Diamond1 can have to be able to successful use more than one program at time or run a GPS program.
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Firstly, Why is this thread in ROM development? I hardly think TF3D 2.5 has anything to do with Diamond ROMs... Come on guys... That and TF3D 2.6 has already been previewed.
In response to your questions flitzjoy how can we know? It's not on the Diamond yet. It's not ported to VGA. So we can't tell yet.
There is a port thread over in development and hacking... Please search before posting as your question/s are probably more likely to be and already answered over there.

2.5 is ugly, i hope no one takes the time to port that crap, would be etter off porting 2.6 when its stable

as much as i want a new version, i would never want them on the Diamond. It eats up too much RAM and between the porting and converting files, there are bounds to be an assload of problems.

Manila 2.5
There is manila 2.5 for Diamond! To Buggy for Daily use!

chadm said:
I see that htc have released a new version of Touch Flo 3D (version 2.5), which looks fantastic.
I would like to know if anyone believes that we will be able to get this to work on the Toch Diamond, or will I have to buy the htc Hero to benefit from this kind of interface ?
Regards
Chad
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You mean leo. The hero is android. and here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540520