Why don't cook a ROM with TOUCHFLO2D? Our Diamond could be faster!
Yeah this sounds like a good idea! I would personally prefer a blazing fugging fast 1.93 2D ROM than a sluggish 1.93 3D ROM... (Black Diamond theme of course )
i agree with you...
i use a ROM without TF3d (french Diamondstone rom) and i install Opal version of TF2d (found on this forum) and it work very fine, much faster tan the 3d version
maybe someone can try to cook this way.
it looks good on your device? since its qvga... or did someone edit it to work on vga?
o yar a faster diamond
just what i need..
the 3d is nice and all.. but after a while.. gets tired looking at it.. and besides the 2d version aint that bad...
and the analog clock is so much cooler...
Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
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I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
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Not with every Rom, so 2d is much faster.
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Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
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Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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thanks a lot bro!
It would be great to have ROM with TF2D! it will result in much faster diamond, extra stogare and memory.
hope one of our great developers will work on it.
cheers.
Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
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Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
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Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
The ultimate ROM!
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Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
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I agree completely! With that kind of speed (like with the tf2d) this ui would be an IPhone killer...
The only thing I am wondering about is, that nobody (as far as I have seen) yet inlcuded a proper SMS (only) Tool (like in iContacts, but without the contacts), because the WM5 version is indiscribably bad..
To bring it to a point (and I hope this is not too far off this topic): Why has nobody yet created a rom that comes standard with S2U2 installed and something like iContact (which directly replaces all the WM5 contacts and the links i.e. from tf3d / tf2d) and a Programs/settings views like in iPhonez(but only that part not the whole iPhonez, we want a killer, not a copy!). and last but not least something like a proper touch-fileexplorer like resco explorer2008(i simply mean the size of the file entries and a little revamping of the original fileexplorer, maybe there is one already?)
If a ROM like that would be put together well (and one of these capable cooks are able to include these tools much deeper and better than when a user installs them into the ROM) we could finally beat the iPhone! (I know its not about beating the iphone, but fact is that the diamond has one nice tf3d tool on top of the same old WM5 which in its original rom is slaggishly slow and is then supposed to beat the well thought through iPhone?? Of course not! there is no alternative that brings the same quality of UI - YET, BUT:
All these great programmers that took their time to create good apps (like iPhonez, iContact, ThumpCal, S2U2, etc..) if (and I know it probably is a challenge to get their agreement to put their stuff in a rom) this would be put togethere into one well made rom, the diamond would be unbeatable!!!!!!
Then get this ROM a bit known as the iphone-killer and this will be picked up in the public a bit more.. finally it could turn out that all these nice programmers get a big bunch of money so that their stuff or a version of it will be used as a permanent part of a stock rom and we all are happy because we will have the best phone ever, made by the people for the people! WHAT A VISION! and its realistic, too! Let's go and use the synergy of all the great cooks and developers and create the SUPER-ROM!!!!
I am ready to pay good developer 50USD to include the existing tools into a personalized ROM, just to have something that prooves the idea and convince the guys to give their permission. (and also to have that myself! )
So who wants the ultimate ROM!!
avers can u give us all the edited files of the tf2d vga u are using ? thanks
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Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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Where can I find this VGA skin (the one in the attached thumnail)
Thank you
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I have been searching for an unmodified wm 6.1 rom w/o success... why is it that none of the cooks make clean, unmodified roms w/o custom folder icons/ status icons.
It would be the greatest thing to find a wm 6.1 rom for the hermes, that is as close to an htc release as possible, but with fixes to accomodate/increase speed.
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I have been searching for an unmodified wm 6.1 rom w/o success... why is it that none of the cooks make clean, unmodified roms w/o custom folder icons/ status icons.
It would be the greatest thing to find a wm 6.1 rom for the hermes, that is as close to an htc release as possible, but with fixes to accomodate/increase speed.
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I'd be willing to do that. I mentioned in my release yesterday that if anybody wanted another version (HTC Home, Lite, Ultra Lite), I would cook accordingly.
chop chop. How long does it take?! GOSH. Ok but seriously... id like two things in life right now... a sparkley clean rom with the newest version of wm6.1 ( dreaming about 6.5) and for someone to point me to the newest cab installer of manila... ill trade a night with my wife for these two things.
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chop chop. How long does it take?! GOSH. Ok but seriously... id like two things in life right now... a sparkley clean rom with the newest version of wm6.1 ( dreaming about 6.5) and for someone to point me to the newest cab installer of manila... ill trade a night with my wife for these two things.
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Ill take half a night
manila 2d cabs ect
To be honest with you, no one had shown any interest. I cooked a ROM based on the original wm6 for HTC. I took all of the base apps, extended ROM, updated it to 21109 (SYS & XIP), and flashed it. Works good, but it's still stock. To me, they are boring. I just thought it'd be fun to try.
boring works, i'm so over m2d if it doesn't work in landscape its pointless, it takes away from the fit & finish of the device and makes it feel hacked together.
whereas the custom folder icons have significance to the cook, it has no significance to someone else. I'm not saying that the cooks can't show their creativity, but some of us like vanilla just fine, and in more recent times, those users seem to have been forgotten.
I like the option of being able to customize the rom after the fact to my needs or tastes, but i'm not technically saavy enough to make a rom myself...i'd tried w/ earlier wm6 builds and that went ok...but my wm 6.1 attempts have failed miserably.
ok so i guess ill just ask for it. I would like to have a " vanilla " wm 6.1 rom with whatever the newest base os is... and the newest version of manila 2d... I can customize from that point etc... on that note does anyone know how to modify the links shown below the browser icon in the browser tab? I would like to make ones for wikipedia etc... and has anyone looked at breaking the map search tab down and using it to make searches for other things like google? or wikipedia? etc? if you notice... most of theinfo in the internet tab and others... scrolls up and down just brilliantly... would be awesome to make a tab that has a a webpage in it or something... like www.google.com/ig/i something like that would be perfect. so back to what i would like... just plain jain bluewm6.1 .. same blue as the att rom... and then the standard blue manilla on top of it... and... as to half nights with the wife... sounds fine to me... but what if i told you she looked like al goreand bill cosby's love child??
there are no problems with a stock rom but it is nicer if we can have an additional spice
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as to half nights with the wife... sounds fine to me... but what if i told you she looked like al goreand bill cosby's love child??
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Then it would be an interesting night
lmao
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as to half nights with the wife... sounds fine to me... but what if i told you she looked like al goreand bill cosby's love child??
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Sounds like my mother-in-law.. lol
I would like to agree with this thread. I am also in favour of unmodified interfaces. All respect to the coders and developers modify and push the envelope with the ROMs but these guys are not designers so the interfaces often look really dodgy when compared with the original manufacturer ROMs...
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I would like to agree with this thread. I am also in favour of unmodified interfaces. All respect to the coders and developers modify and push the envelope with the ROMs but these guys are not designers so the interfaces often look really dodgy when compared with the original manufacturer ROMs...
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I'll be releasing one in the next few days in my RevROM thread.
I would also love to see a performance ROM with manufacturer interface design. Manilla 2D is awesome! All respect to the coders and developers, but you guys aren't designers, and this is something that is generally lacking in the modified ROMS.
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I would also love to see a performance ROM with manufacturer interface design. Manilla 2D is awesome! All respect to the coders and developers, but you guys aren't designers, and this is something that is generally lacking in the modified ROMS.
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Lol, you basically repeated the same thing twice with different workds I wont be putting M2D in the next version because i already have a "non-colored" icons M2D version (latest v5). It'll be a lite version with possibly HTC Home on it.
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I have been searching for an unmodified wm 6.1 rom w/o success... why is it that none of the cooks make clean, unmodified roms w/o custom folder icons/ status icons.
It would be the greatest thing to find a wm 6.1 rom for the hermes, that is as close to an htc release as possible, but with fixes to accomodate/increase speed.
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Grab the official Kaiser ROM and port it for your Hermes!
ai6908
If i could only make sense of the kitchens. Someone needs to really clean up the kitchen instructions and or make a kitchen more akin to ppckitchen
I tried following Ivan's Cooking Class, and just ended up with an unholy mess that wouldn't boot.
Ok can anyone mention what comes in Stock ROM WM6.1
I want it too!
I will join DRTigerlilly´s request for a clean wm6.1 rom.
In fact what I really want is a clean one, and as close as possible to a stock rom, BUT IN SPANISH.
Hello because the low RAM on trinity im looking for the simpliest ROM (Only basic apps) with manila2D.
I tried a lot of roms and the fastest was cme 0.9 BETA which has a lot of issues.
Can someone help me?
I would definutly recommend this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472178
its Team CV93+Oggi (CE OS 5.2.21014.1.6.0) Manila2D and there is a ultra-lite version, I have been using it for about a week (full ROM) and it is fast - stable and im sure the lite versions will be even faster.
Sorry I cant give more details
PDAViet TRINITY WM6.1 ROM V44 - Build 20748.1.4.0 (Manila2D) is mine tip, download and password is PhamQuang
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Hello because the low RAM on trinity im looking for the simpliest ROM (Only basic apps) with manila2D.
I tried a lot of roms and the fastest was cme 0.9 BETA which has a lot of issues.
Can someone help me?
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Hi Snake_A.
The simplest Manila2D ROM (i.e. with the lowest number of potentially not needed add ons) that I have found is nosedive's latest:
[ROM][WWE][4/2/2009]n073e+i (CE OS 5.2.20769 build20769.1.4.5) [ONLINE]
It's faster than any others I have tried and has no issues (apart from psshut not letting you turn the device competely off). Bear in mind that speed on any Rom will depend on what you add after the flash. Reducing the number of Manila2D tabs (using m2Dc customiser) and switching off Manila2D during use of applications like TomTom and Internet Exploring does help.
Chanvi's pre-Iolite/Footprint ones are excellent too, but have more add ons (which you may not need, depending on personal preference). (Chanvi leads the way in Iolite/Footprint experimentation, but so far they seem to use more memory than previous versions.)
Both the above cooks are very active in the Trinity forum and always answer any problems. There are other great cooks who are also opening doors with their work and well worth testing their Roms, but if you are after simplicity and stability, I recommend nosedive or chanvi at the moment.
Hope this helps you and others,
Mattster.
I'm starting to miss Manila2D... I hope some updated Manila2D Roms come out soon.
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I'm starting to miss Manila2D... I hope some updated Manila2D Roms come out soon.
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try cooking the latest 6.5 build from chanvi's kitchen. it has the jade 1.2 M2D OEM!
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try cooking the latest 6.5 build from chanvi's kitchen. it has the jade 1.2 M2D OEM!
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Hi Philocritus.
I have been thinking of trying that, but to tell you the truth I don't like the iconic start menu in Windows 6.5. I prefer the list format start menu of 6.1.
I have just flashed the 21042 6.1 full manila ROM from chanvi's Kitchen. Do you know how it compares to the latest 6.5 build?
Mattster.
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Hi Philocritus.
I have been thinking of trying that, but to tell you the truth I don't like the iconic start menu in Windows 6.5. I prefer the list format start menu of 6.1.
I have just flashed the 21042 6.1 full manila ROM from chanvi's Kitchen. Do you know how it compares to the latest 6.5 build?
Mattster.
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Mattster my friend, welcome back..
I have tried both 6.1 and 6.5 in various options. Summary:
1. 6.1 or 6.5 makes no difference as far as speed. It is all CPU/clocking dependent. they both slow down the same with heavy graphics, and suffer the same behavior. It's all in the hardware..
2. Size of page pool makes a difference for speeds. But it is a trade off between free RAM and speed. It is depending what your needs are. again- 6.1 or 6.5 is not making a difference . Some claim 6.5 is slower, but really in order to say that one needs to compare apples with apples. two different ROMS are , by definition, apple and orange.
3. Try WM6.5 by Chanvi. Give it 72 hours before you give up on the bee hive you hate. After you get used to it, and to the slick movement of it, you will have hard time going back to the dull WM6.1 menus.
4. You will have to forget about 'dirty Harry' pose with the stylus in the mouth. Menus are SOOOOOOO finger friendly my stylus is rusting in its place inside the phone. No WM6.1 has this kind of GUI. Not even if artificially trying to add finger friendly menus. Even the X button on the upper right is thumb friendly !
5. Enjoy both worlds. Home2 now has an applet and theme that looks exactly as M2D. I have it installed on home2 and it's fun, not mentioning I go from analog to digital clock on the home tab in a flick of a finger. If you like the idea of home2 than install WM6.5 IE6Ultralite cause you really don't need CHome or M2D in the ROM. You will be surprised to get 28M free RAM and 79M free storage that way, and a phone faster than ever..
bigE
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...You will have to forget about 'dirty Harry' pose with the stylus in the mouth. Menus are SOOOOOOO finger friendly my stylus is rusting in its place inside the phone. No WM6.1 has this kind of GUI. Not even if artificially trying to add finger friendly menus. Even the X button on the upper right is thumb friendly !
Enjoy both worlds. Home2 now has an applet and theme that looks exactly as M2D. I have it installed on home2 and it's fun, not mentioning I go from analog to digital clock on the home tab in a flick of a finger. If you like the idea of home2 than install WM6.5 IE6Ultralite cause you really don't need CHome or M2D in the ROM. You will be surprised to get 28M free RAM and 79M free storage that way, and a phone faster than ever..
bigE
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Hi bigE.
Thanks for the feedback. Most informative as always, and much appreciated. Funny you should mention the "Dirty Harry" look. I am somewhat famous for it in the office, and I tend to chew on my stylus continually...
On holiday, I had Manila2d and spb shell both turned off, and as a result I now find it irritatingly slow going back to them! I'll follow your suggestion this weekend: home2 with WM6.5 IE6Ultralite.
Is it worth me trying to cook home2 (it's freeware, no?) into the ROM using Chanvi's kitchen? Maybe you've done it already?
Mattster.
Best ROM that I ever have tested (and I have tested a lot of them) is:
[ROM][WWE] Windows Mobile 6.1 5.2.20270.1.3.1 Ver. 0.4.7.5 (Updated: 2009.04.04) by osavioro
Memory foot print with Home, Messages, E-mail, Settings and Programs tabs enabled in Manila2D:
Storage:
Total: 43.67MB
In Use: 23.67MB
Free: 20.00 MB
Program:
Total: 48.68MB
In Use: 29.56MB
Free: 19.12MB
iGO8 works like a charm. Fast with lot of usefull applications. Dont forget to install Manila customizer so you can disable unwanted tabs and save some memory.
No problems at all.
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Hi bigE.
Is it worth me trying to cook home2 (it's freeware, no?) into the ROM using Chanvi's kitchen? Maybe you've done it already?
Mattster.
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Worth trying, if you know how.. I didn't. One comment though- there is a non official release of the home2 free (you need to do some reading) where Joel made the home2.exe file use storage memory to dump graphics files. that made home2 work in 90% speed it was before, but free RAM is 4-5M bigger. If you think of cooking home2 I would like to know how you do it.. I have no clue how to take a cab and add it into the kitchen..
bigE
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Worth trying, if you know how.. I didn't. One comment though- there is a non official release of the home2 free (you need to do some reading) where Joel made the home2.exe file use storage memory to dump graphics files. that made home2 work in 90% speed it was before, but free RAM is 4-5M bigger. If you think of cooking home2 I would like to know how you do it.. I have no clue how to take a cab and add it into the kitchen..
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I gave up on home2 since it sucked the battery dry in one day! plus it was a very memory hungry app... maybe just maybeeeee i'll return to it when that exe is stable.
miss home1 btw... 1.2 was in my opinion on of the best UI around, and still is my favorite behind m2d
Hi,
I haven t flashed my diamond yet.
But yesterday I installed the spb 3 and it s amazing.
I even think it s faster...
Well, so my questions:
is there a diamond theme for spb3.0?
i ve seen there s one for 2.1, but it s not working on 3.0
Should I put a ROM for my diamond?
I want it to be as fast as possible (and possibly the touch screen to be more sensitive)
Which ROM would you advise me? (and can it be compatible with SPB3?)
I m not asking how to do it, just the latest ROMS avail that are faster and smoother.
i haven t properly understood how i can see what is inside each rom.
basically i want GPS working, i want tasks and calendar, internet and wifi and radio.
maybe a better video player cause the ones i have do suck.
That's it, thanks guys!
EDIT:
i have WM 6.1 how should I update to 6.5? is it easy? free?
i can t update weather data with SPB MS 3.
I have internet, it works.
but when I click UPDATE it does nothing...
Yes its free.
Yes its easy.
Run hardspl on ur diamond, and download one of the roms in this forum, then connect ur phone via activesync, start the program.
Then ur set to go.
Sry if that was a little hard to read, but i just woke up
ok thanks.
so you're telling me that WM6.5 comes preshipped inside some ROMS, is that correct?
Any ROM compatible with SPB MS3 and super light (but with GPSToday, Tomtom, Coreplayer or similar, wifi and some extra apps?)
Cheers
iorga1 said:
Hi,
I haven t flashed my diamond yet.
But yesterday I installed the spb 3 and it s amazing.
I even think it s faster...
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Flash ANYTHING else than the stock ROM and you will see about speed and smooth... And THEN compare it with SPB...
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ok thanks.
so you're telling me that WM6.5 comes preshipped inside some ROMS, is that correct?
Any ROM compatible with SPB MS3 and super light (but with GPSToday, Tomtom, Coreplayer or similar, wifi and some extra apps?)
Cheers
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Win 6.5 is NOT OFFICIAL YET, so you can't have it in "preshipped" roms. What;s' out there is leaked betas.
Fast 6.1 Rom - Nataly (check Pietrucci's benchmarks), comes with kitchen so you can set it up the way you want.
Fast 6.5 rom - well, they are not THAT fast and consume more memory.
If you have manila CFC compressed, and a fast rom, then SPB doesn't offer any real advantages. It's just something different. I tried it, and, hmm... came back to TF3D. it's functional, smooth, etc. I tried to put out "i got used to it" factor, as you can get used to spb shell too. it's just that I didn't found any real (speed or memory) reasons to use SPB. And fork extra money for it on the top of it... TF3D is free after all....
As well, when it comes to the applications -you install what you want, don't expect to have tomtom in rom, apart from other things it's illegal.... ROM is a base. then you customize it (in kitchen ) or install what you want after.
Good luck in search for optimum config!
thanks for your answer.
ok so basically you're telling me SPB is not that fast compared to ROMs avail out there, and its functionnality is not that evident.
I like it a lot (though no way to update weather)
And my ROM is 1.93.,,,, radio 1.25... so it s not that outdated, is it?
which ROM should I put in order to have at least the same than what I have?
Cause it seems ROM development was huge some time ago, and you guys had the HTC diamond a long time ago... mine has 4 months, and this means it might come shipped with an already decent ROM. I wouldn t like to flash it with an older ROM and see some features/apps disappear... do you see what I mean?
Am I wrong? cause the google entries only show roms from 2008... is there anything newer out there?
SPB is just a today app, u can still use spb after installing new rom.
Belive me, if u install other roms like Energy ROM, it will be faster, smother and better.
After installing new rom just install SPB again.
Even if it looks like its older roms here, it aint.
Hope this answer will help you.
Cheers mate!
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thanks for your answer.
ok so basically you're telling me SPB is not that fast compared to ROMs avail out there, and its functionnality is not that evident.
I like it a lot (though no way to update weather)
And my ROM is 1.93.,,,, radio 1.25... so it s not that outdated, is it?
which ROM should I put in order to have at least the same than what I have?
Cause it seems ROM development was huge some time ago, and you guys had the HTC diamond a long time ago... mine has 4 months, and this means it might come shipped with an already decent ROM. I wouldn t like to flash it with an older ROM and see some features/apps disappear... do you see what I mean?
Am I wrong? cause the google entries only show roms from 2008... is there anything newer out there?
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I STRONGLY suggest the use of searh feature:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Upgrades
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512505
It helps ENORMOUSLY....
And in general - from the posts above I would suggest that you do first some reading. there's a lot of decent FAQ's here, as well as tutorials. Just read for 2 -3 evenings. It will be VERY beneficial to you, I hope.
After all, none of us was simply born with the knowledge.. And all of us had the 1st day with diamond, then some time on this forum, and then a lot of things became self-explanatory...
Good luck!
thanks guys
i read all this info a long time ago, did not upgrade, so I forgot a lot.
But I understand the ideas and the vocabulary
You said 2 things:
- upgrade the HTC site ROM. ok but it is not recognised when I type in my serial number. cause telefonica movistar SPN is a bit annoying for this.
as far as i remeber my readings, this would be solved when hardspl and ROM flashed.
- the numbers taht appear on the table, do not correspond to mines. So I guess this means I should get one of those, and try to proceed to the upgrade.
Is is worth? (i think it s better to get rid of that annoying logos and themes and crappy heavy processes shipped in the movistar ROM and grab the ENERGY one, or another one like Rhodian (have to read)
Anyway thanks for your answers.
I ll try to flash the ROM. First have to make a backup.
also i might have a dump of the ROM for guarantee purposes, done few months ago
cheers,
Hi,
Because speed is important, My suggestion is BsB ROM Specially Version J.(Windows Mobile 6.5)
Version L is slightly slower (Because of 10mb pp instead of 16mb-not big difference)
I'm using BsB ROM+SPB Mobile shell V3 and it works like a charm.
Good Luck!
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
mjaxa said:
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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I agree, but I must say that SPB 3 with a standard rom is a lot faster than any rom with TFLO that I've tested.
mjaxa said:
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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Hi,
Thanks for the benchmark, but i have to say :
1) Bsb 6.5 ROM isn't in benchmark . i also can't see Energy WM6.5 ROM in this benchmark. These two are fastest available 6.5 ROMs for diamond (in my opinion)
2) in my personal experience, spb mobile shell 3 on Bsb ROM, is faster than any Other 6.5 or 6.1 ROM.(specially if you change pp to 16mb-default is 10).
3)I think Bsb ROM is Quick because of Excellent Memory Management. with Mobile shell 3 running, i have more than 50MB free Memory after Boot(pp=10MB) and without SPB More than 61MB.
Give it a try, i'm sure that you won't be disappointed.
Good Luck!
OK, you may be right, but still, in order to say "is fast" you need to compare it to hard data. If you want to bother you should install SPB Benchmark and run it on this ant that rom, and ONLY then you will really see.
Having said that, at the end it doesn't really matter. What matter's is user comfort/feeling
And about memory - so you say "i have more than 50MB free Memory after Boot(pp=10MB) and without SPB More than 61MB." hmmm. In my configured rom (including extra apps like lumos, keyboard switcher, etc) after reset I have 56MB free. Without TF3d 64MB. So... this is rather standard for me Nothing special here...
But ultimately it comes to personal preference. I like Nataly, because there is kitchen and I can "trim" the ROM to my personal taste. Of course, the speed and LOTS of memory doesn't hurt...
SPB Benchmark Results for BsB 6.5L + SPB Mobile Shell
mjaxa said:
OK, you may be right, but still, in order to say "is fast" you need to compare it to hard data. If you want to bother you should install SPB Benchmark and run it on this ant that rom, and ONLY then you will really see.
Having said that, at the end it doesn't really matter. What matter's is user comfort/feeling
In my configured rom (including extra apps like lumos, keyboard switcher, etc) after reset I have 56MB free. Without TF3d 64MB. So... this is rather standard for me Nothing special here...
But ultimately it comes to personal preference. I like Nataly, because there is kitchen and I can "trim" the ROM to my personal taste. Of course, the speed and LOTS of memory doesn't hurt...
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Hi,
I agree that it comes to personal preference Completely.
SPB benchmark Results : (first after a full day working , second after soft reset)on BSB6.5L + SPB Mobile Shell 3 Running
Keep it in mind that Nataly is WM6.1 and BsB is WM6.5.
1)
Spb Benchmark index 741.55
CPU index 1766.19
File system index 344.06
Graphics index 3551.07
2)
Spb Benchmark index 765.9
CPU index 1776.53
File system index 359.16
Graphics index 3336.17
I also attached XML Result Files.
Good Luck!
I really need a help for obtaining an excellent WM6.5.x ROM + <<sense 2.5>>
I've searched all WM6.5.x ROMs on XDA but i don't know which of them can be better for 'HTC TOUCH DAIMOND'
In fact ,i want "WM6.5.X CLEAN ROM+SENSE 2.5 ,STABLE,FAST AND WITH SETTING ITEM IN START MENU "
IF IT IS OFFICIAL ,IT WILL BE BETTER CERTAINLY
THEREFORE,Please Help Me For Finding best ROM ,tanX
simple, not exist
LOL
Don't waste your time with 6.5 it is always going to be slow
Now I can tell you what a good all rounder rom is an that is the MEMO one.
I would say this as I'm helping with it but IMHO it's a keeper.
MEMO Rom
Yes, i too say that 6.5 is not for Diamond. So why u try that?
With all the options the MEMO ROM is the best one (Try it and feel it)
Regards
I'm using the latest energy rom + cookie home tab, and is fast,stable and has good graphics..there is only one problem the free ram is a bit (18-20 mb)
energy rom
Sure, energy roms, especially the latest, are bright, fast, BUT NOT LIGHT due, perhaps in a certain way to the huge amount of apps included. Things that most people does not use. I prefer using wm 6.5.5 rahter than 6.1, but today there is no light rom WITH SENSE (2.1 OR 2.5) AND WM 6.5.5. You can find a good titanium rom wm 6.5.5 (ralpfudsion ralGT1J) with plenty of free ram and stable
Hi,
First you need to understand the limitation of your equipment and specially for the ram. On my side I have tried several rom and I have normally a preference for rom 6.5.x due to my HD2. So I found a good compromised between 6.1 and 6.5.x it is a 6.5 rom (build 21907) back to basic. There is enough ram left and I can customized as I want. The other solution as stated above is to use a titanium version of 6.5.x or 6.5. I also recomand Ormet rom the 8.32 one.
Hope it will help you
I would suggest you to try out the Gen Y WWE ROM. Its a 6.1 with Sense 2.1 ROM. Pretty stable. It has a share of its own issues, but you may wanna try it out yourself. Its got a very good integration of Sense into it with a Start Menu that the Topaz (Diamond 2) shipped with.
The link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521941
Here you go. Try it. Its got some good features. If you are starting out new, I suggest take small steps. Rather than taking a leap into 6.5 or 6.5.x give this one a try.
What's your idea ?
tanX of all for your nice suggestions nonetheless it's better that i use WM6.1 for HTC touch diamond instead of WM6.5.X
I INSTALLED DONSALARI ROM(WM6.5) ,IT WAS NOT BAD... , however it has some features that i want
roughly OK : WM6.5.X+SENSE 2.5
amirhtc said:
tanX of all for your nice suggestions nonetheless it's better that i use WM6.1 for HTC touch diamond instead of WM6.5.X
I INSTALLED DONSALARI ROM(WM6.5) ,IT WAS NOT BAD... , however it has some features that i want
roughly OK : WM6.5.X+SENSE 2.5
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I personally had issues with that rom. Diamond does not truly perform too well with it. Had it for a few days then removed it. For instance my video stuttered horribly with it and my album never even began playing H.264 videos. I could only use WMP.
I personally think you should fall back on a tweaked 6.1 ROM with Sense 2.1 or Sense 2.5. Maybe you could search for Manila cab and install it.
try the Don Salari rom dude. i think it's the best official rom n' it's very light (clean basic). good luck!
you might want to try out Benko's 6.5.3 ROMs for Diamond.
Here's the link.
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606064
P.S. Even that has issues though.
Hello EveryOne!
I'm here since some weeks now, to look, try and improve everything. This, in order to build a final version of my HTC Blackstone in perfect accordance with my demands.
I mean:
Look, Speed, DailyUse, No Freeze, No Bugs, whatever the program I use. And I won, got the perfect one!
Please see here under:
A) Look:
Screens are in attachment...
Well it is sober, but that's what I like. My Htc BlackStone looks what it is: a BlackStone.
Sometimes, when I see what people ask here to developpers, I laugh and think: "Oh Gosh! Why don't they ask for a washmachine in their cell-phone too?".
B) Rom WM 6.1 Manila 2.1, and Radio:
The ROM is - HTC_Touch_HD_MR_2009_RUU_BlackStone_HTC_FRA_1.56.406.1
and the Radio - Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24
Why these ROM and Radio? Because they are the official of HTC, much easier for me to customize than some beautiful cooked I found and tried here, as Miri's, Dutty's, KWbr's or Panoshka's.
I tried other official versions, and I honestly don't see a meaningful difference, except that some added programs couldn't work properly.
I think the most simple it is, the best it works... So, even if mixing WN 6.1 with Sense 2.5, or WM 6.5 with Manila 2.1 works, the result seem to me too complicate. As well, making deep changes increase risk of instability, bugs, especially by adding other third party programs.
In fact, if you are developper yourself, you know what you do, then you can fix problems. But if you're not, then it's better to stay on one's level, without pretention or arrogance, and just try to customize with simple things...
C) Added programs, (IN THIS ORDER, laughing!):
01-BS_Rilphone_1_13_25_24.cab
02-NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab
03-Tnyynt SD TuneUP.cab
04-IPC_Black_Calculator.cab
05-Black Dialer EN.cab
06-Whiteglow Transparant Clock.cab
07-Glass icons.cab
08-Dutty's NoTopCurtain.cab
09-Diamond_TF3D_Config_Setup.cab
10-HD Tweak 0.5.4_French.cab
11-Celogeek_tweak_20080808.cab
12-mUn background4allpages.cab
13-HushSMS-v0.6beta.CAB
14-ACR Version 1.2.4.CAB
15-Express News 1.0.39.cab
16-DeluxeMoon.cab
17-BattLog0.2.3.130.zip
18-CorePlayer v1.3.6 Build-7427 for PPC.cab
All those programs can be found on the site, except for item 15-Express News and 18-Core player, I found on the websites using "search".
D) My comments:
Well, today, a cellphone can be use for quite everything: as GPS, Radar detector, remote control or...phonecalls!
Mine is fast, stable, safe, and does what I want efficiently:
Phonecalls, contacts, texts, mails, news, websurf, meteo, pictures, movies, music, FM Radio, and the Moon for fun...
I don't need more, and with this config, it is a rocket as fast as the new phones i tried: Iphone4, HTC Desire or Samsung Galaxy S.
I was about to buy a new one of these, to be "up to date", but I don't see the utility anymore!
A good config on a Blackstone is a MUST.
Best regards,
BobbyTrash
Ps: To perfect this look, I was looking for a ".cab" to make Topbar and Bottombar transparent, I didn't found it here. Some cooked ROM do it, perhaps a developper can provide such a cab...
In an other way, a short program allowing to rename and link easely unused tabs, would be useful too, whatever the ROM or kitchen...
mate you haven't cooked a Rom, your just tweeking
Yes, absolutely..
I just did it for people who search for simple customisation, more than for a cook...
I thought it was clear in my post, though! Thanks for your answer.
Bobby
probably should be moved to the themes and apps section
You're right...
How to do that?
Regards,
Bobby
Only mods can move threads
MOD EDIT - Thread moved to Themes & Apps section..........and renamed
do you have opera 10?
if yes, is it launching from the manila tab?
seugirdor said:
do you have opera 10?
if yes, is it launching from the manila tab?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7706060&postcount=2158
waraney said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7706060&postcount=2158
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does it work in wm6.1? because i asked it here because the rom in this thread is wm6.1
maybe you can ask on that thread, coz im using WM6.5x..