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This is my first superstorage rom (based on the 3.62 rom) created by Pandora's kitchen with the help of some other kitchen tools. In addition, this is also using bepe's superstorage hack.
All the bloatware has been removed. Everything else you need, is mostly available in the form of cabs. It has the Schap's 2G dialer and 10-button Touch Commmanager since I think nobody likes the stock ones anyway.
Anyone interested in testing it, feel free to do so. If possible, let me know if you find anything wrong with it, I'm still in the learning phase.
Thanks.
v1 Sendspace Link
v1 Rapidshare Link
EDIT: I had better luck the second time, and uploading v2 as I type this.
uploaded new screenshots of the v2, as I said, very simple!!!
v2 Sendspace Link
Office, pbar, Java, Arcsoft MMS, X button, etc. have been removed from V1.
I'll take a seat and waiting for your screen shot.
Interested in trying this ROM but would like to know what is in and what is out. Thanks for your efforts.
zhanif said:
Interested in trying this ROM but would like to know what is in and what is out. Thanks for your efforts.
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Oh its definitely cool to have made my first successful rom.
Since this rom is from AT&T, all the AT&T stuff is out of there.
This is a 6MB page pool. This is only the OS, no splashscreens, no radio.
I added the following:
updated white-color battery icons,
Comm-vibrate toggle
Schap's 2G dialer
10 button CommManager
Black keyboard
Superstorage hack (thanks to bepe)
Schap's Advanced Configuration
pBar
Office 2007
Startclean
I skipped the following:
Intent midlet manager
No touch button
Network Wizard
No Autoupdate
no catalog
no windows live
Thats what I remember on the top of my head. Hope this is good info.
Did you apply Bepe's hack to the 3.62 OS (i.e. hexedit the 3.62 os.nb and edit the XIP)? Or did you cook this rom using the 3.60 big-storage OS and then combine it with the 3.62 OEM and SYS files?
Ross
only 20 some megs available for programs? ekkks. I'm thinking we all will need a bit more than that.
it is cool you offer this rom, but maybe its just me, I personally need to see more program memory.
@ Ross - I hex edited the 3.62 rom directly, no using of 3.60 OS.
@ Ko0ky - thanks for that review, I need to look into that. I would definitely some more program memory too.
I just noticed that binky has more storage memory than me, so I must have done something wrong...so back to the drawing board for me!
Yah, the big storage hack didnt work. Too bad, i was really excited for a second
megarek said:
Yah, the big storage hack didnt work. Too bad, i was really excited for a second
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it worked half way, since i have a total memory of 61.38 MB, and there is ext_rom. No worries, I'll get cracking on it again today after work.
Aiighty, on a second try, looks like I've had better luck.
Office, pbar, Java, Arcsoft MMS, X button, etc. have been removed from V1 since they're all available in cabs.
Tempted to give it try. I am using duttythroy's Touch I Ultra Lite which has 73.44MB Storage and 50.77MB Program Memory. However, it is based on the 3.60 ROM. I would like to use 3.62.
Good job on milking out some more storage space! How did you do it? Could you give us some details so that those of us who like to cook our own can do so? Thanks!
Ross
PS It is strange that there is still about 5 megs less 3.60 based big storage roms. What is up with that?
well, I realised that my mistake was in the hex-editing. I only did half the hack right, hence got only half the result (atleast thats what I think).
I have tried to make this quite a few times, and thats the max I've gotten. I might have to squeeze out some more apps/dlls, but I cannot seem to get it to 3.60 superstorage numbers. I'm still trying though.
Why don't cook a ROM with TOUCHFLO2D? Our Diamond could be faster!
Yeah this sounds like a good idea! I would personally prefer a blazing fugging fast 1.93 2D ROM than a sluggish 1.93 3D ROM... (Black Diamond theme of course )
i agree with you...
i use a ROM without TF3d (french Diamondstone rom) and i install Opal version of TF2d (found on this forum) and it work very fine, much faster tan the 3d version
maybe someone can try to cook this way.
it looks good on your device? since its qvga... or did someone edit it to work on vga?
o yar a faster diamond
just what i need..
the 3d is nice and all.. but after a while.. gets tired looking at it.. and besides the 2d version aint that bad...
and the analog clock is so much cooler...
Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
Riel said:
I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
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Not with every Rom, so 2d is much faster.
RideTheTube said:
Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
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Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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thanks a lot bro!
It would be great to have ROM with TF2D! it will result in much faster diamond, extra stogare and memory.
hope one of our great developers will work on it.
cheers.
Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
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Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
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Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
The ultimate ROM!
losdrivare said:
Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
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I agree completely! With that kind of speed (like with the tf2d) this ui would be an IPhone killer...
The only thing I am wondering about is, that nobody (as far as I have seen) yet inlcuded a proper SMS (only) Tool (like in iContacts, but without the contacts), because the WM5 version is indiscribably bad..
To bring it to a point (and I hope this is not too far off this topic): Why has nobody yet created a rom that comes standard with S2U2 installed and something like iContact (which directly replaces all the WM5 contacts and the links i.e. from tf3d / tf2d) and a Programs/settings views like in iPhonez(but only that part not the whole iPhonez, we want a killer, not a copy!). and last but not least something like a proper touch-fileexplorer like resco explorer2008(i simply mean the size of the file entries and a little revamping of the original fileexplorer, maybe there is one already?)
If a ROM like that would be put together well (and one of these capable cooks are able to include these tools much deeper and better than when a user installs them into the ROM) we could finally beat the iPhone! (I know its not about beating the iphone, but fact is that the diamond has one nice tf3d tool on top of the same old WM5 which in its original rom is slaggishly slow and is then supposed to beat the well thought through iPhone?? Of course not! there is no alternative that brings the same quality of UI - YET, BUT:
All these great programmers that took their time to create good apps (like iPhonez, iContact, ThumpCal, S2U2, etc..) if (and I know it probably is a challenge to get their agreement to put their stuff in a rom) this would be put togethere into one well made rom, the diamond would be unbeatable!!!!!!
Then get this ROM a bit known as the iphone-killer and this will be picked up in the public a bit more.. finally it could turn out that all these nice programmers get a big bunch of money so that their stuff or a version of it will be used as a permanent part of a stock rom and we all are happy because we will have the best phone ever, made by the people for the people! WHAT A VISION! and its realistic, too! Let's go and use the synergy of all the great cooks and developers and create the SUPER-ROM!!!!
I am ready to pay good developer 50USD to include the existing tools into a personalized ROM, just to have something that prooves the idea and convince the guys to give their permission. (and also to have that myself! )
So who wants the ultimate ROM!!
avers can u give us all the edited files of the tf2d vga u are using ? thanks
avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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Where can I find this VGA skin (the one in the attached thumnail)
Thank you
Hi,
I found this new rom from PDAVIET.
Here's the link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/203587319/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_46__B21169.rar
Password: PhamQuang
Who wants to try?
Beta 47 just posted...
If anyone is interested...
http://rapidshare.com/files/205688353/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_47__B21169.rar
Same password as above.
Have you tried the rom yet?
Any chance of some more info and screen shots?
Cheers
Beta 47 initial review
Although i am not a big fan of M2D, and V47 is M2D rom, I am going to give it a try. I am running it for few minutes only, so i can't give any real feedback, besides the obvious. First- WM6.5 (M2D off) takes about 28M RAM, and since the page pool is set to 6M, there are only 48M RAM to begin with. This gives only 20M of free RAM. Kind of low than i want, but considering WM6.5 it was expected. With M2D on (as set as default) there are only 12M free RAM. That is BEFORE trying to have anything else, or changing tabs...
Phone wakes up with wrong time and date (not a big deal) , and finds the right network nice (I am in the US). One graphic bug is obvious- task manager and X button are too big, and cover the clock on the top right corner of the upper bar.
Free memory (applications) after installation (nothing added) is 48.22M total, of which 4.74M are taken. Pretty low, considering other roms with 70M. I guess M2D and the new WM are bigger.
I have changed page pool to 4M, gaining extra 2M RAM, and it seems to be stable and fast enough for my needs. 51M RAM, of which 18.55M free with M2D on, and 20M RAM.
The next step I took was trying to sync time using the tool called 'Synchro time'. As soon as I did, a pop-up message told me the rom is a 7 day trial, and right after that I have a 'screen of death' on my phone telling me: "that concludes the beta test of the software..."
I don't know if this is because of the time sync or not. I had to hard reset the phone and start all over, hoping it will not happen again that soon..
I let M2D run, not doing anything on the phone. After 15 minutes I was left with 12M of free RAM. I have installed SKTools, set shadow RAM cleaning, and optimized for maximum memory. Soft reset the phone and it starts with 18.46M free RAM with M2D, 20.51M without. Too low for my taste. using free-up RAM by SKTools gives 23M free if M2D is off.
As for the bee-hive shape of WM6.5 - I find it annoying. applications change location on you, and there is not logical sequence where they will be. I had to scroll 3 pages to find an application, and the scroll isn't smooth. Also- on pop-up windows - the OK button on the top right is missing, but pushing the corner where it suppose to be do close them up.
I am installing email accounts, and will let you know how it goes.. I don't think i will keep it, because it is a memory hog rom, although stable and performance is not too bad.
BigE
Test is over... after 1 hour
Ok folks, memory management of this rom is horrible. I don't know if it WM6.5, or the M2D, but for sure it is impossible to have only 8M RAM free after one hour of use. All i have done was connect to an exchange server, and have made nothing else. Kept the phone aside and looked at memory after an hour. Dropped from 18M to 8M and I think after enough time it would have crashed. it seems memory leaks.
I would be very afraid to leave home with this rom. first it 'expire'. Then it leaks memory, and third the WM6.5 is not my cup of tea at all. I hate the bee-hive and the way it moves on the phone. Only way to organize it is to create folders and move shortcuts around. WM6.5 has some nice tabs and scroll bars, but it does not justify the rest. IMHO it is a draw back from WM6.1 , even if 6.1 isn't perfect at least it works and I know how to work around the bugs. 6.5 is not for trinity, I am afraid...
Ah, there are also at least one shortcut (getting started) that does not work for me (error message trying to run).
Well, it is BETA for a reason, but knowing PDAViet, I would say he tried the impossible and was almost doing a good job. As for myself- i am back to FinixOver 3.7UL and pointui2 as plugin. Quick, 30M free RAM, nice animation and stable like I need. RAM do not leak, and phone is running smooth.
Was it a complete waste of time to try? No, I have learned some good lesson. Will be very suspicious with other WM6.5 roms..
BigE
Additional feedback
Agreeing with all BigE said above, I add:
1) No video call in dialer.
2) "getting started" app does not work.
3) The "titanium" today plug-in is having many of Manilla-2d functionality with (a little) less memory consumption.
4) Uniting advanced power and backlight setting to one screen is (at last) very well welcomed.
5)memory...memory...memory.
I concur with the above findings. It is unfortunately not very responsive. I guess the overhead is too much for our Trinity.
The ROM lags terribly. However, I still appreciate the effort made by PDAViet.
Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .
chanvi93 said:
Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .
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sounds great!!, loking forward for your www release
chanvi93 said:
Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .
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I agree with u chanvi93.
I'm waiting 4 your next wwe release.
Thanx master.
WM6.5
Chanvi93,
Your roms are superb, no doubt, and you are right I am judging WM6.5 by one rom I tried and did not like. So let's hope what we have tried and failed isn't because of 6.5.
Can we hope for super lite WM6.5 rom ? I have tried yours, and have to admit, I liked them much but m2d isn't the right plug-in for me, especially after using pointui home2. So a naked WM6.5 rom WWE sound promising.
looking forward for your rom
BigE
chanvi93 said:
Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .
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Thanks for that Chanvi, I was indeed getting depressed reading this thread! Looking forward to your 6.5 build. Have you decided if you are going to include footprints or not? From what I can see, Iolite / Footprint is asking a lot of our humble Trinities. Previous Manila version has better performance maybe?
Mattster.
Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
ON 05/03/2009
ROM WM6.5 V47 CHO HTC TRINITY
BETA VERSION - CORE 21169
HTC Iolita
Manila2D
FIX , MMS
LINK :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/205688353/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_47__B21169.rar
PASS :- PhamQuang
arnooo said:
Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
ON 05/03/2009
ROM WM6.5 V47 CHO HTC TRINITY
BETA VERSION - CORE 21169
HTC Iolita
Manila2D
FIX , MMS
LINK :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/205688353/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_47__B21169.rar
PASS :- PhamQuang
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Sorry but, sms are not working....
Mattster_spv said:
Thanks for that Chanvi, I was indeed getting depressed reading this thread! Looking forward to your 6.5 build. Have you decided if you are going to include footprints or not? From what I can see, Iolite / Footprint is asking a lot of our humble Trinities. Previous Manila version has better performance maybe?
Mattster.
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Hello
It's done in my threat , 2 versions : Full with Footprint components and Lite without .
Footprint is a great soft for great traveller as me , i use it daily in work , don't need Manila for it so it don't use more ram if you don't launch .
@BigE
Super lite in wm 6.5 is not very good because some short cut and little softs are necessary for use .
not for this thread but anyways
have just flashed Chanvi's 3/8 Wm6.5 lite rom. I will report my testing on his thread, as this one is for PDAViet rom.
See you there in few hours I guess.
BigE
someone can upload some screenshot???
Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
Great Rom , but there is some memory leak, so phone must be often reboot ...
can run with P3600i from standart ROM???
yeh, copyr image file to your SD card and power+camera+reste you will get it flash. but memory arrangement is not that good.
this only from what i did.
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can run with P3600i from standart ROM???
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Hi,
I haven t flashed my diamond yet.
But yesterday I installed the spb 3 and it s amazing.
I even think it s faster...
Well, so my questions:
is there a diamond theme for spb3.0?
i ve seen there s one for 2.1, but it s not working on 3.0
Should I put a ROM for my diamond?
I want it to be as fast as possible (and possibly the touch screen to be more sensitive)
Which ROM would you advise me? (and can it be compatible with SPB3?)
I m not asking how to do it, just the latest ROMS avail that are faster and smoother.
i haven t properly understood how i can see what is inside each rom.
basically i want GPS working, i want tasks and calendar, internet and wifi and radio.
maybe a better video player cause the ones i have do suck.
That's it, thanks guys!
EDIT:
i have WM 6.1 how should I update to 6.5? is it easy? free?
i can t update weather data with SPB MS 3.
I have internet, it works.
but when I click UPDATE it does nothing...
Yes its free.
Yes its easy.
Run hardspl on ur diamond, and download one of the roms in this forum, then connect ur phone via activesync, start the program.
Then ur set to go.
Sry if that was a little hard to read, but i just woke up
ok thanks.
so you're telling me that WM6.5 comes preshipped inside some ROMS, is that correct?
Any ROM compatible with SPB MS3 and super light (but with GPSToday, Tomtom, Coreplayer or similar, wifi and some extra apps?)
Cheers
iorga1 said:
Hi,
I haven t flashed my diamond yet.
But yesterday I installed the spb 3 and it s amazing.
I even think it s faster...
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Flash ANYTHING else than the stock ROM and you will see about speed and smooth... And THEN compare it with SPB...
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ok thanks.
so you're telling me that WM6.5 comes preshipped inside some ROMS, is that correct?
Any ROM compatible with SPB MS3 and super light (but with GPSToday, Tomtom, Coreplayer or similar, wifi and some extra apps?)
Cheers
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Win 6.5 is NOT OFFICIAL YET, so you can't have it in "preshipped" roms. What;s' out there is leaked betas.
Fast 6.1 Rom - Nataly (check Pietrucci's benchmarks), comes with kitchen so you can set it up the way you want.
Fast 6.5 rom - well, they are not THAT fast and consume more memory.
If you have manila CFC compressed, and a fast rom, then SPB doesn't offer any real advantages. It's just something different. I tried it, and, hmm... came back to TF3D. it's functional, smooth, etc. I tried to put out "i got used to it" factor, as you can get used to spb shell too. it's just that I didn't found any real (speed or memory) reasons to use SPB. And fork extra money for it on the top of it... TF3D is free after all....
As well, when it comes to the applications -you install what you want, don't expect to have tomtom in rom, apart from other things it's illegal.... ROM is a base. then you customize it (in kitchen ) or install what you want after.
Good luck in search for optimum config!
thanks for your answer.
ok so basically you're telling me SPB is not that fast compared to ROMs avail out there, and its functionnality is not that evident.
I like it a lot (though no way to update weather)
And my ROM is 1.93.,,,, radio 1.25... so it s not that outdated, is it?
which ROM should I put in order to have at least the same than what I have?
Cause it seems ROM development was huge some time ago, and you guys had the HTC diamond a long time ago... mine has 4 months, and this means it might come shipped with an already decent ROM. I wouldn t like to flash it with an older ROM and see some features/apps disappear... do you see what I mean?
Am I wrong? cause the google entries only show roms from 2008... is there anything newer out there?
SPB is just a today app, u can still use spb after installing new rom.
Belive me, if u install other roms like Energy ROM, it will be faster, smother and better.
After installing new rom just install SPB again.
Even if it looks like its older roms here, it aint.
Hope this answer will help you.
Cheers mate!
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thanks for your answer.
ok so basically you're telling me SPB is not that fast compared to ROMs avail out there, and its functionnality is not that evident.
I like it a lot (though no way to update weather)
And my ROM is 1.93.,,,, radio 1.25... so it s not that outdated, is it?
which ROM should I put in order to have at least the same than what I have?
Cause it seems ROM development was huge some time ago, and you guys had the HTC diamond a long time ago... mine has 4 months, and this means it might come shipped with an already decent ROM. I wouldn t like to flash it with an older ROM and see some features/apps disappear... do you see what I mean?
Am I wrong? cause the google entries only show roms from 2008... is there anything newer out there?
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I STRONGLY suggest the use of searh feature:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Upgrades
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512505
It helps ENORMOUSLY....
And in general - from the posts above I would suggest that you do first some reading. there's a lot of decent FAQ's here, as well as tutorials. Just read for 2 -3 evenings. It will be VERY beneficial to you, I hope.
After all, none of us was simply born with the knowledge.. And all of us had the 1st day with diamond, then some time on this forum, and then a lot of things became self-explanatory...
Good luck!
thanks guys
i read all this info a long time ago, did not upgrade, so I forgot a lot.
But I understand the ideas and the vocabulary
You said 2 things:
- upgrade the HTC site ROM. ok but it is not recognised when I type in my serial number. cause telefonica movistar SPN is a bit annoying for this.
as far as i remeber my readings, this would be solved when hardspl and ROM flashed.
- the numbers taht appear on the table, do not correspond to mines. So I guess this means I should get one of those, and try to proceed to the upgrade.
Is is worth? (i think it s better to get rid of that annoying logos and themes and crappy heavy processes shipped in the movistar ROM and grab the ENERGY one, or another one like Rhodian (have to read)
Anyway thanks for your answers.
I ll try to flash the ROM. First have to make a backup.
also i might have a dump of the ROM for guarantee purposes, done few months ago
cheers,
Hi,
Because speed is important, My suggestion is BsB ROM Specially Version J.(Windows Mobile 6.5)
Version L is slightly slower (Because of 10mb pp instead of 16mb-not big difference)
I'm using BsB ROM+SPB Mobile shell V3 and it works like a charm.
Good Luck!
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
mjaxa said:
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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I agree, but I must say that SPB 3 with a standard rom is a lot faster than any rom with TFLO that I've tested.
mjaxa said:
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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Hi,
Thanks for the benchmark, but i have to say :
1) Bsb 6.5 ROM isn't in benchmark . i also can't see Energy WM6.5 ROM in this benchmark. These two are fastest available 6.5 ROMs for diamond (in my opinion)
2) in my personal experience, spb mobile shell 3 on Bsb ROM, is faster than any Other 6.5 or 6.1 ROM.(specially if you change pp to 16mb-default is 10).
3)I think Bsb ROM is Quick because of Excellent Memory Management. with Mobile shell 3 running, i have more than 50MB free Memory after Boot(pp=10MB) and without SPB More than 61MB.
Give it a try, i'm sure that you won't be disappointed.
Good Luck!
OK, you may be right, but still, in order to say "is fast" you need to compare it to hard data. If you want to bother you should install SPB Benchmark and run it on this ant that rom, and ONLY then you will really see.
Having said that, at the end it doesn't really matter. What matter's is user comfort/feeling
And about memory - so you say "i have more than 50MB free Memory after Boot(pp=10MB) and without SPB More than 61MB." hmmm. In my configured rom (including extra apps like lumos, keyboard switcher, etc) after reset I have 56MB free. Without TF3d 64MB. So... this is rather standard for me Nothing special here...
But ultimately it comes to personal preference. I like Nataly, because there is kitchen and I can "trim" the ROM to my personal taste. Of course, the speed and LOTS of memory doesn't hurt...
SPB Benchmark Results for BsB 6.5L + SPB Mobile Shell
mjaxa said:
OK, you may be right, but still, in order to say "is fast" you need to compare it to hard data. If you want to bother you should install SPB Benchmark and run it on this ant that rom, and ONLY then you will really see.
Having said that, at the end it doesn't really matter. What matter's is user comfort/feeling
In my configured rom (including extra apps like lumos, keyboard switcher, etc) after reset I have 56MB free. Without TF3d 64MB. So... this is rather standard for me Nothing special here...
But ultimately it comes to personal preference. I like Nataly, because there is kitchen and I can "trim" the ROM to my personal taste. Of course, the speed and LOTS of memory doesn't hurt...
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Hi,
I agree that it comes to personal preference Completely.
SPB benchmark Results : (first after a full day working , second after soft reset)on BSB6.5L + SPB Mobile Shell 3 Running
Keep it in mind that Nataly is WM6.1 and BsB is WM6.5.
1)
Spb Benchmark index 741.55
CPU index 1766.19
File system index 344.06
Graphics index 3551.07
2)
Spb Benchmark index 765.9
CPU index 1776.53
File system index 359.16
Graphics index 3336.17
I also attached XML Result Files.
Good Luck!
Now that all new ROMS are being cooked with Windows 6.5, I wonder if those of us that prefer 6.1 have finally reached the end of our Trinity journey.
Personally, as a user of SPB Mobile Shell 3.1, I really don't need the memory expense of a flashy start menu with icons, or an extended scrolling today page. As a result, I have now been using the same ROM (the excellent Team CV93+Oggi's WM6.1 21042 UltraLite) for a record period of time! I guess as always it boils down to personal preference, but... is that the end of the road for new build 6.1 ROMS?
Hi
every body
Hi Mattster_spv
the last 6.1 fast and stable 21042 or 21046.
21042 fast and stable
21046 stable ~~
LAST LAST 6.1 21018 for me no stable no fast ...comparaison 21042...
Actually i work for very very optimize 21042...
share kitchen optimize surelly end july.
with other packtage : examply mouse for trinity (style omnia )
HH+ for today and manilla last version ...
Personalize my style blue sky
Regard Oggi
oggi1969 said:
Actually i work for very very optimize 21042...
share kitchen optimize surelly end july.
with other packtage : examply mouse for trinity (style omnia )
HH+ for today and manilla last version ...
Personalize my style blue sky
Regard Oggi
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This would be great!!
Like Mattster I'm using 6.1 with MS3, and if you are trying to optimize even more the 21042, it's really great news.
Thank you for wonderfull work( and Chanvi also)
No,
Just cook a rom whithout chome (or disable the plugin in today screen)...
For start menu, you will need to install quickmenu.
If you don't want the new themes (scroll bars etc...), use a tsk from a 6.1 theme
Voila! wm 6.5 whith 6.1 appareance
Hi
@Mac_es
YES..... But ?,, programs and settings 6.5 not similart ....
programs and setting 6.5 versus programs and settings 6.1 Ram 2 Mo
example: " 6.5 light " with methode (no chome, no manilla, )quick menu
Just cook a rom whithout chome (or disable the plugin in today screen)...
For start menu, you will need to install quickmenu.
If you don't want the new themes (scroll bars etc...), use a tsk from a 6.1 theme
Voila! wm 6.5 whith 6.1 appareance
first boot after reset ...Ram 28
example: " 6.1 light 21042 optimize" (no today , no manila ) quick menu
first boot after reset ...30 ram
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Chanvi Cook 6.5 kitchen great look fast and stable . kitchen (20 / 28 Ram )
My... Cook 6.1 kitchen look ... presonalize . fast and stable . kitchen (22 / 30 Ram )
Because IGO8 and another app consumer big ram and trinity is very very poor Ram.
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Just choise...
Sorry for my bad english
Regard Oggi
oggi1969 said:
Hi
@Mac_es
YES..... But ?,, programs and settings 6.5 not similart ....
programs and setting 6.5 versus programs and settings 6.1 Ram 2 Mo
example: " 6.5 light " with methode (no chome, no manilla, )quick menu
Just cook a rom whithout chome (or disable the plugin in today screen)...
For start menu, you will need to install quickmenu.
If you don't want the new themes (scroll bars etc...), use a tsk from a 6.1 theme
Voila! wm 6.5 whith 6.1 appareance
first boot after reset ...Ram 28
example: " 6.1 light 21042 optimize" (no today , no manila ) quick menu
first boot after reset ...30 ram
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Chanvi Cook 6.5 kitchen great look fast and stable . kitchen (20 / 28 Ram )
My... Cook 6.1 kitchen look ... presonalize . fast and stable . kitchen (22 / 30 Ram )
Because IGO8 and another app consumer big ram and trinity is very very poor Ram.
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Just choise...
Sorry for my bad english
Regard Oggi
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Of course, wm6.5 eats more ram but you have a more finger friendly os... fex
Whith chanvi's kitchen whith the cab for quickmenu and removing honeycomb he gets 23MB ram free. Also, if you delete all png related to themes you should gain some more ram...
I'm only saying that you can get a 6.5 rom whith 6.1 UI...
I'm using TomTom so whith 21MB RAM free (my own build 23001 whith CHOME plus everything I need) I'm really happy
@mac_es
,-) .....
oggi1969 said:
Actually i work for very very optimize 21042...
share kitchen optimize surelly end july.
with other packtage : examply mouse for trinity (style omnia )
HH+ for today and manilla last version ...
Personalize my style blue sky
Regard Oggi
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Hi Oggi.
Thanks for letting us know. This is great news!
Mattster.
mac_es said:
No,
Just cook a rom whithout chome (or disable the plugin in today screen)...
For start menu, you will need to install quickmenu.
If you don't want the new themes (scroll bars etc...), use a tsk from a 6.1 theme
Voila! wm 6.5 whith 6.1 appareance
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Hi mac_es,
Yes, I tried this but eventually had the sensation that all I was doing was turning a 6.5 into a 6.1, so then I thought... why not just stick with 6.1?!
Interesting hearing peoples comments though.
I guess one big factor is if the user wants (like most of us) for their device to have the latest technology (which is why we're all addicted to flashing!).
The votes are fairly 50:50 so far.
Mattster.
I am biased towards WM6.5
Hi Friend,
I urge you to try Chanvi's recent 23001... Dude- it is both smart, quick, well managed memory, and the kitchen is awesome.
None of the WM6.1 I used to flash was not that good. i am sire oggi will come up with a superb WM6.1 and it is most likely be as good as the WM6.5, however, I find it hard to believe you still use Win98 right? XP was a natural way to go, and WM7 will be the next thing (ignore Vista for the analogy..)
Same is with WM6.5 in a year from now I wish you a new phone (WVGA and lots of RAM) but if you will still have trinity for any reason (I will probably keep it) then Wm6.5 is the closest to the new generation phones.
BigE
PS: I voted W6.5 and now it is not 50:50 ..
Hi to all
I liked very much the Rom's of Team CV93+Oggi.
The 21042 is fantastic concerning free Rom. The 6.5 Rom are also great and with QM the free Rom is not bad.
But with this roms and no additional SW I have had some problems:
1. when I made a call from a fix net to my trinity than the display appears only after 1-2 beeps on the fix phone and then it takes another beep before my trinity start to ring
2. sometimes I had missed call/sms but good network
The only solution for me was to install SPB Phone Suite to be rememered all 5 minutes for missed calls or sms.
Now I'm back to good old 017TNYSTD:
1. before I can hear first beep on fixnet phone the dispaly goes on and with first beep or a little later my trinity rings, also with many additional SW
Do you have the same expirience?
My favourite rom would be 21042 because of the free space (iGO8) but the phone part of my Trinity has to be 100% working.
Do you have an idea?
@Oggi,
could it be fixed on new 21042
Regards,
sole71
Hi
@Sole71
1) Sorry for my bad english .
2) What's this ? SW...
I will change the driver of the parties telephony.
I do not know if this will solve your problem.
I cook as Rom french and I have no problem on the Rom in France.
Because my english is very very bad .
Maybe the change of driver solve your problem.
Can be ???? ...
I modified a lot to do and that can very time ....women, kids, work, sports, friends, party, ect ... So not until the last week of July.
How to get the ROM "Team CV93+Oggi's WM6.1 21042 UltraLite"
I've had a few people IM me asking where I got this ROM from, so I thought I'd post the answer here:
To get this ROM you need to "create" it using Chanvi's Kitchen. Don't worry, it's not really "create", it's just selecting it and hitting a button. Follow these steps:
1. Scroll down to POST 2 of the thread below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513421
There you will see a link for WM 6.1 Kitchen AND Emulator WM 6.5 from MS. Click on 21042 WM 6.1 WWE+FRA Kitchen for Trinity [/B]
If you prefer, just click on the following link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=5330c72c2c98e20d7069484bded33bcd48c3279b870421d7
2. Download and save the Kitchen zip to your desktop. Once downloaded open it up and copy the folder inside to your desktop.
3. Open the foldfer and click on Ervius Kitchen exe.
A box will appear.
4. Re-select Trinity (important to do this) then select the ultralite rom in the drop down menu on the right.
5. Click on the Create Rom.
6. Whilst the ROM is being put together, connect your device via usb to get Active Sync going. When the ROM is ready, the familiar flash screen will appear and I guess you know it from there!
Any problems give me a shout.
Mattster.
Nice thread Mattster!!
I also miss WM6.1 ROMs... I use iGO8 and RAM is always a problem! If only we had more memory
I would gladly move to WM6.5 but I need the RAM for iGO8.
Interested to see what Oggi can come with!
Go WM6.1!
joncgde2 said:
Nice thread Mattster!!
I also miss WM6.1 ROMs... I use iGO8 and RAM is always a problem! If only we had more memory
I would gladly move to WM6.5 but I need the RAM for iGO8.
Interested to see what Oggi can come with!
Go WM6.1!
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Hi joncgde.
Thanks for the post.
If you use iGO8, user "BigE" could have a lot of good advice for you. He is somewhat of an expert at tweaking the Trinity to work well iGO8, even with a 6.5 ROM. He speaks very well of Chanvi's recent 23001.
That said, the votes for users of just Windows 6.1 vs users of just 6.5 are at present 50:50, plus there are other users who enjoy both. Interesting stuff.
Mattster.
hi Mattster_spv, i guess we are somewhat similar. a fast naked rom with simple UI. i have voted wm6.1 for this reason. i guess our trinity is not a good candidate to run wm6.5. i still preferred the good old htc home than chome (too many steps). i'm a big fan of finixnover and chanvi & oggi. my device still running th elast cooked rom of finix's. it would definitely make my day if the great cooker would just keep on updating wm6.1 rom. thanks.
callmepaper said:
i'm a big fan of finixnover and chanvi & oggi. my device still running th elast cooked rom of finix's. it would definitely make my day if the great cooker would just keep on updating wm6.1 rom. thanks.
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Hi Callmepaper.
I totally agree. The only real reason I don't use Finix's last light rom is that it's too black. Looks great but sometimes hard to see in the sun. Such a shame he broke his Trinity!
Mattster.
p.s. Apologies for incorrect link above. I have changed the instructions now on how to get Chanvi & Oggi's UltraLite 6.1. Please see post above.
oggi1969 said:
Hi
@Sole71
1) Sorry for my bad english .
2) What's this ? SW...
....
I modified a lot to do and that can very time ....women, kids, work, sports, friends, party, ect ... So not until the last week of July.
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@Oggi,
1) mine is not better
2) SW Software (cabs)
It's not a problem to wait until last week of July, because I'm at holliday
Merci beaucoup pour ton travail!!!
sole71
Mattster_spv said:
Hi joncgde.
Thanks for the post.
If you use iGO8, user "BigE" could have a lot of good advice for you. He is somewhat of an expert at tweaking the Trinity to work well iGO8, even with a 6.5 ROM. He speaks very well of Chanvi's recent 23001.
That said, the votes for users of just Windows 6.1 vs users of just 6.5 are at present 50:50, plus there are other users who enjoy both. Interesting stuff.
Mattster.
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I recommend you visit and try SafeMode 3.1. See www.monocube.com
I have only 10M free RAm when i use the phone as Phone/PDA. When i want to use iGO I reset the phone, and start it in 'safe mode'. Than I run iGO with freaking 31M free RAM although i have WM6.5 !!!!!!!!!
I enjoy both worlds- tons of free RAm when needed for iGO, or beautiful GUI, graphics and features otherwise. For whom who thinks Trinity can not deal with WM6.5 - I was that pesimistic too, until Chanvi the great proved me wrong...
BigE
Of the 53 votes so far:
43% of you prefer Roms with Windows 6.1.
26% of you only use Roms with Windows 6.5.
30% of you use both.
Very interesting. Keep voting people!