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orange m2000 vs o2 xda iis

Hi all, I've been reading for ages on o2's xda iis or the blue angel and the probs all are having here in the uk but not once have I heard of or seen of anyone having this kind of trouble with the orange m2000. Are there any m2000 owners out there who would like to give some feedback on the issue and let us know if you too are swamped with problems. I personally would like this device to use, but really don't want to go out on a limb when the wind is already blowing. :mrgreen: As far as pda's and phones go, I'm not a whiz and certainly don't want to have to pay for something just to have to do a rom update, as well as take things off that shouldn't be there to start with...like the o2 rubbish I keep reading about. I'm thinking I'd be better off with a nokia 6630 or maybe the o2 xda ii i, but then, I have never been fond of nokias, and don't want to use a stylus all the time... the 2s would have been the answer (I think), or it is the only one that's really appealed to me in function and looks...so now I'm wondering what about an orange m2000, unlocked, using on o2...can you get manual settings to surf the net? any problems with the 2000?

I've got the M2000 and it has exactly the same problems as all the other Blue Angel's, it's just less popular (party cause Orange don't tell anyone they sell it).
I'm now waiting for Orange to send me a replacement because mine is fastly becoming unusable. It's fine most of the time (aside from the usual problems), but when it crashes, a soft reset doesn't work and I have to remove the SD and the SIM card for up to an hour before I get get it to work again.
I know other people with M2000's who don't have these problems so I've hopefully just got a dodgy phone.
Edited to add that while the M2000 doesn't look as pretty as the XDAIIs, Orange don't put on any of the O2 extra rubbish that O2 do which is good. And the phone can easily be unlocked so you can use it with anyone.

to be honest the only problems that i've ever had with my IIs were all down to the 02 active stuff. once i got rid of that and upgraded to the latest rom (think they all ship with this now anyway) it's been trouble free

I had and XDA IIs which I purchased only 2 weeks ago and it never worked properly. I never even got round to installing any useful software. Twice it hard reset itself while I was opening pictures to send as MMS’s. And I had to soft reset it at least once every day. I even removed the 02 active crap but it was still unstable. The other thing with the IIs is the screen. WHY CHANGE IT! My old one is great but the new one has an awful rancid look and you can’t see it at a slight angle, you have to look straight at it.
I’ve sent it back now and am going to try the IIi in the hope that the faster processor and bigger memory make the device more stable. I’m back to using my XDAII now which I have no trouble with at all, its just old and a bit broken.

m2000
Hi guys, thanks for the response...think I'm going to go with the nokia 6630 for the pic quality, real player, and 3g connection. Might check out the o2 xda ii i, but really wanted a keypad. However, I've got plenty of time to see if there are any bugs in both. have you guys checked out howardforums.com? there is lots of useful stuff on there too. Also, I'm wondering about the o2 magician or xda mini. they say o2 is not releasing them here but they are supposed to be pretty good. anyone know about those?

Well I have both ( and all other versions of XDA's as well.. as we have lots).
I personally prefer the Orange m2000, as we got a free memory card and none of that god awful O2 active built into the rom. Seriously.. that O2 active is such a negative thing to my users. (wake up O2 - the XDA2s / M2000 is geared towards business users with their own apps. they seriously do not need or want a damned instant install popup spam menu.
XDA 4 / M5000 / HTC Universal wont be availble till end September.. So its a case of waiting.. (mines on preorder )

The O2 Active stuff is V.V.Easy to remove so I wouldn't worry about that to much and just go for the device you like the look of the most and can get the best price on

just bought an orange spv c500 and im well impressed.. a little hard to operate at first because of the buttons.. been used to touch screen for so long ive forgoten what buttons are for but it does everything my XDAII can in a smaller package. still trying to sort out the gprs settings because its an oarange phone but apart from that..... o2 canstick the XDAIIs where the sun dont shine. :wink:
btw does anyone know the o2 gprs settings for and orange spv c500?

c500
Hey, why didn't you send me a pm? You're not gonna believe this. Was on ebay the other night and got a c500 myself. Figured why not give it a shot as I'm familiar with the spv, and also know a lot about the e200, but know nothing about the c500. A guy I work with has 2 e200's, 1 has a switchboard problem and the other, is working on a switchboard problem. I figured out the settings for the spv as well as the spv e200.. Have you ever heard of Modaco.com? go there... look for gprs settings repository or something like that. Loads of settings are there...but the catch is, you have to mess around with them and tweak them to make them work, but it can be done. took me 3 weeks one time of thinking, and pulling my hair out...but eventually was accomplished. This guy that has 2, one is on orange and the other is on o2. The c500 might be different, but if you are willing to work on it with me...so am I. I'll have to send the phone to HTC first to get it fixed as it has a cracked screen (lcd) and outer, but apart from that it's perfect. This is strange...but cool. I think....

tytn to spv m3100

Right, well i had enough on my tytn!! Contacted orange and got a new contract and getting an spv m3100 (free).
my question is, have i made the right move? I'm thinking about updating the rom, but will i still have the same issues? ie, not turning back on sometimes after i turn it off? also, text messeges not being sent? I use the black pro rom at the moment. is there a new updated version that most people are happy with? i have insured it with orange, so if it f**cks up on the upgrade or after, i can always "lose" it.

Let me get this right - you had a TyTN and now you have a SPV M3100?
These are the same devices, same hardware.
I guess the problems you are describing are caused by software - not by hardware.
Regarding a new ROM version - have you tried to read this forum? There are plenty out there.

as said its the same device?
tho be its now black than pink

same device, maybe so. but htc seem to suck at customer service. prolly the same with orange, but i'll be insuring the phone.
maybe, my tytn is duff. i had problems from day one but htc did nuttin about it! decided to go back on contract for a couple of reasons. 1 being gprs/g3 is way cheaper, and whats more the device is free!!
anyway, i'll give it a go, and if i'm not happy within 14 days, i'll be sending it back and getting something else, maybe an m700.
cheers anyway

wouldnt it have been worth trying some dif roms on your tytn and see if that solves the problem.
Probably a bit silly taking out a new contract on an old phone that you already have when the tytn 2 is due to be released any day now.
Might be worth a play with your tytn more while you are still in your 14days.
Also if you are porting your pay as you go number across to your contract, and the process has already started then you will loose your number if you give the phone back in 14 days.

rjefferis said:
wouldnt it have been worth trying some dif roms on your tytn and see if that solves the problem.
Probably a bit silly taking out a new contract on an old phone that you already have when the tytn 2 is due to be released any day now.
Might be worth a play with your tytn more while you are still in your 14days.
Also if you are porting your pay as you go number across to your contract, and the process has already started then you will loose your number if you give the phone back in 14 days.
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all good valid points.
I'm sure orange isn't going to release the new version for a while, but then i really don't know about these things.
I will try a couple more roms (tried 3 already), but to be honest, i really hate the looks of the tytn!! looks fully out dated! it's deffo going on ebay!
i'm not going to port the number over (unless they can do it as a line 2). Also, i am gonna stick with the orange contract, i'll just change devices. i like the m700 (more so if there's a black version).
Thanks for the comments!

Txt messages not being sent is not down to the phone but a network problem. I have no problem with the phone not turning on with the Schaps 3.54 rom so give that a try if you haven't.

Removing Orange branding from Orange HTC Tytn 2

Can anybody advise on this?
i got a tytn 2 as i was really impressed with a colleagues one he got direct from HTC.
mine on the other hand is from Orange, and although still reasonably impressive, its not a patch on th HTC rom.
help would be most appreciated.
thanks
Dan

\windows\startup would prob contain
much of the startup stuff you dont want
otherwise you can try looking in the kaiser forum for other roms

thanks, installed the HTC ROM..... Sim is now locked, don't seem to be too many soloutions for unlocking Orange. have scoured these pages looking but alas it's not looking at all good. oops.

Screen Issue

Evening Guys,
Got a slight problem, at some point today my phone's screen has gone a little, erm, wrong
In the perfect centre of the screen a a block has appeared measuing 2 Inch High by 1 Inch Wide, and has a oil on water effect, that section of the screen is still touch sensitive but I wonder if something has broken, the screen image is displayed OK underneath which made me wonder what has actually gone wrong ?
Any explanations ?
Also, If this is bad and I claim on my mobile insurance, I am obviously going to flash the latest official ROM to it, but I also need to return the SPL to a stock one obviously, can someone give me a link to the one I should put on, I currently have on HardSPL SPL-1.93.OliNex.
Much appreciated, this is bizzare, any help or advice would be helpful.
Many thanks.

This is an issue a few people have and some managed to get it repaired under warranty see 4WINMOBILE, HTCWIKI and HERE.
As for returning to stock ROM and SPL there is also a post (or two) on that subject. (HERE)
If you need any help returning to stock, I will offer my assistance to you.

That would be appreciated mate, if you could point me at the correct official SPL I should flash to my device that would be great.

I don't know what the vodaphone version came with but I would use 1.37 and the latest UK WWE official ROM and send it back to HTC (UK) which are based in Milton Keynes.
As long as you remove the customisation then all should be OK.
EDIT: did you see my first post for a link to the SPL info posted by cmonex

Yeah, it's a O2 device anyway, but I have a vodafone contract, purchased the device a few months ago on Ebay, got vodafone to add to my mobile insurance the day it arrived.
Been fine for months and most of today, and then that happened. Damn my luck.
Have you a link to the 1.37 Official SPL ? Or whicever the O2 one is.
EDIT: Opps, thanks for that, got what I need, I'll be ringing Vodafone in the morning to sort out the return.

[Q] Dutch to English

Hi...some advice please. Tomorrow I will pick up an HTC Desire (unlocked) from my provider here in Holland. The issue is that I am English.....and ASAP I will need to change the Android 2.1 Dutch into a WWE system. I have flashed my previous HTCs but want some advice on Flashing this phone.
Question 1) Which flash do you recommend I download from this site (there seem to be loads of std WWE files?
Question 2) Anything to be careful with?
Question 3) I have downloaded Unrevoked3 software....is this what I should use for an unlocked phone?
Many thanks in advance for the answers.
Trafford

Is it coming from a Dutch operator? If not, when you first turn it on it'll ask your language...

Yes its a Dutch operator and a Dutch Operating system. Thats why I need WWE. I cannot read Dutch and all alerts etc will be dutch even if by selecting English will give some things in English....been there 4 times now with previous HTC phones in Holland.

Im dutch too i can help you
Just ask te seller to set the language to english?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

The T-Mobile shop said it was only available in Dutch so I took their word for it. It arrives tomorrow so I will see if thats all thats needed. My experience from before is that this is not the answer. Your ROM is NLD and I need WWE

Trafford, I work in a T-Mobile store and today I sold a Samsung Galaxy which I turned to English for a customer. The day before yesterday I sold another android phone and turned it to Chinese... I don't think you need to change the ROM just for the language... Also in my memory, I was able to change the T-Mobile HTC Desire to English without any problems or Dutch pop-ups. Can't check it though, rooted and customized a while ago.

That sounds great Sjraar. The T-Mobile guy asked and was told it was Dutch....so of course I decided to check for a new ROM. He also said it was unlocked. Does that mean it is Rooted or unrooted?? or is locking and rooting unconnected?

Sjraar said:
Trafford, I work in a T-Mobile store and today I sold a Samsung Galaxy which I turned to English for a customer. The day before yesterday I sold another android phone and turned it to Chinese... I don't think you need to change the ROM just for the language... Also in my memory, I was able to change the T-Mobile HTC Desire to English without any problems or Dutch pop-ups. Can't check it though, rooted and customized a while ago.
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If you work in a phone store, you should know that it depends from where your company imports the phones.. when they're smart, they buy wwe because it can be cheaper.

I hope it is WWE it will save some hassle. By the way.....He also said it was unlocked. Does that mean it is Rooted or unrooted?? or is locking and rooting unconnected?

I'm not completely sure, but I think they bought WWE versions and then put a small T-Mobile branding over it. There's no sign of web 'n walk logo's and stuff. Just the bootscreen was T-Mobile, but when I flashed a diffrent ROM, that went away...

trafford said:
I hope it is WWE it will save some hassle. By the way.....He also said it was unlocked. Does that mean it is Rooted or unrooted?? or is locking and rooting unconnected?
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It's unlocked to any network, but it's still unrooted, so that you need to do. I used the UnRevoked option, but check whether the phone has an SLCD or AMOLED. Read something somethere that you need to be careful with that, and even though it states on the box that the phone has an AMOLED screen, it might be a SLCD. HTC hasn't yet changed the boxes...

Well I guess I will see tomorrow if they get it as promised. Thanks for your replies everyone. I was thinking of flashing to Android 2.2 .....what do you think?

When we checked the spec on the computer in the shop it said Amoled, that was my reason for having the desire instead of the HD2 which he had in stock but Windows 6.5 and no AMOLED so I went for the desire. I better check that too....how will I know the difference?

found this
After hearing that HTC will officially switch to Super LCD screens from AMOLED back in July due to AMOLED display panel shortages on Samsung's side, we now got to a point where new HTC Desire devices hit the market from the new production batch sporting SLCD screens. If you want to make sure your device has a SLCD screen, read below for a few hints:
1. Check the box your Desire came with at the section Display: if it states "3.7 inch AMOLED touch-sensitive screen" then you've got an AMOLED display but if it says "3.7-inch touch-sensitive screen" then you've got an SLCD display.