Hi all, I've been reading for ages on o2's xda iis or the blue angel and the probs all are having here in the uk but not once have I heard of or seen of anyone having this kind of trouble with the orange m2000. Are there any m2000 owners out there who would like to give some feedback on the issue and let us know if you too are swamped with problems. I personally would like this device to use, but really don't want to go out on a limb when the wind is already blowing. :mrgreen: As far as pda's and phones go, I'm not a whiz and certainly don't want to have to pay for something just to have to do a rom update, as well as take things off that shouldn't be there to start with...like the o2 rubbish I keep reading about. I'm thinking I'd be better off with a nokia 6630 or maybe the o2 xda ii i, but then, I have never been fond of nokias, and don't want to use a stylus all the time... the 2s would have been the answer (I think), or it is the only one that's really appealed to me in function and looks...so now I'm wondering what about an orange m2000, unlocked, using on o2...can you get manual settings to surf the net? any problems with the 2000?
I've got the M2000 and it has exactly the same problems as all the other Blue Angel's, it's just less popular (party cause Orange don't tell anyone they sell it).
I'm now waiting for Orange to send me a replacement because mine is fastly becoming unusable. It's fine most of the time (aside from the usual problems), but when it crashes, a soft reset doesn't work and I have to remove the SD and the SIM card for up to an hour before I get get it to work again.
I know other people with M2000's who don't have these problems so I've hopefully just got a dodgy phone.
Edited to add that while the M2000 doesn't look as pretty as the XDAIIs, Orange don't put on any of the O2 extra rubbish that O2 do which is good. And the phone can easily be unlocked so you can use it with anyone.
to be honest the only problems that i've ever had with my IIs were all down to the 02 active stuff. once i got rid of that and upgraded to the latest rom (think they all ship with this now anyway) it's been trouble free
I had and XDA IIs which I purchased only 2 weeks ago and it never worked properly. I never even got round to installing any useful software. Twice it hard reset itself while I was opening pictures to send as MMS’s. And I had to soft reset it at least once every day. I even removed the 02 active crap but it was still unstable. The other thing with the IIs is the screen. WHY CHANGE IT! My old one is great but the new one has an awful rancid look and you can’t see it at a slight angle, you have to look straight at it.
I’ve sent it back now and am going to try the IIi in the hope that the faster processor and bigger memory make the device more stable. I’m back to using my XDAII now which I have no trouble with at all, its just old and a bit broken.
m2000
Hi guys, thanks for the response...think I'm going to go with the nokia 6630 for the pic quality, real player, and 3g connection. Might check out the o2 xda ii i, but really wanted a keypad. However, I've got plenty of time to see if there are any bugs in both. have you guys checked out howardforums.com? there is lots of useful stuff on there too. Also, I'm wondering about the o2 magician or xda mini. they say o2 is not releasing them here but they are supposed to be pretty good. anyone know about those?
Well I have both ( and all other versions of XDA's as well.. as we have lots).
I personally prefer the Orange m2000, as we got a free memory card and none of that god awful O2 active built into the rom. Seriously.. that O2 active is such a negative thing to my users. (wake up O2 - the XDA2s / M2000 is geared towards business users with their own apps. they seriously do not need or want a damned instant install popup spam menu.
XDA 4 / M5000 / HTC Universal wont be availble till end September.. So its a case of waiting.. (mines on preorder )
The O2 Active stuff is V.V.Easy to remove so I wouldn't worry about that to much and just go for the device you like the look of the most and can get the best price on
just bought an orange spv c500 and im well impressed.. a little hard to operate at first because of the buttons.. been used to touch screen for so long ive forgoten what buttons are for but it does everything my XDAII can in a smaller package. still trying to sort out the gprs settings because its an oarange phone but apart from that..... o2 canstick the XDAIIs where the sun dont shine. :wink:
btw does anyone know the o2 gprs settings for and orange spv c500?
c500
Hey, why didn't you send me a pm? You're not gonna believe this. Was on ebay the other night and got a c500 myself. Figured why not give it a shot as I'm familiar with the spv, and also know a lot about the e200, but know nothing about the c500. A guy I work with has 2 e200's, 1 has a switchboard problem and the other, is working on a switchboard problem. I figured out the settings for the spv as well as the spv e200.. Have you ever heard of Modaco.com? go there... look for gprs settings repository or something like that. Loads of settings are there...but the catch is, you have to mess around with them and tweak them to make them work, but it can be done. took me 3 weeks one time of thinking, and pulling my hair out...but eventually was accomplished. This guy that has 2, one is on orange and the other is on o2. The c500 might be different, but if you are willing to work on it with me...so am I. I'll have to send the phone to HTC first to get it fixed as it has a cracked screen (lcd) and outer, but apart from that it's perfect. This is strange...but cool. I think....
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Ok, so overall not impressed with the BA. It clearly has some serious issues... but I never expected this!
I noticed today that when the screen is on (ie. during a phonecall) my handset now makes a high pitched whistling noise emmitting from the screen!! It's audiable from a good 2.5 feet away and is horribly annoying!
Anyone else had this problem/found a solution? If someone could check to see if they all do it I would be very appreciative
-Mike
Yes, I had exactly the same problem. After various emails and telephone calls I sent it back to my distributor (expansys) and they sent it to Dubai. Exactly 4 weeks later it came back with a brand new screen.
Don't get too excited though, as the whistle came back after about 6 weeks. Just got used to it now. :evil:
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Yeah, I can vouch for you guys here...
I'm currently on handset #3, and into month #5 with my Orange UK Contract. Within a month or so, the whistle comes back, and Orange send me a new phone.
I'm sure they must now have it in their diaries to just ship me a new one!
Thankfully I have Orange's insurance, which means I get new phones... but they've recently changed their T&C to say that I must pay £15.00 to process the exchange.
As far as I'm aware, if the unit is faulty within the first 12 months, it is Orange's obligation with HTC to provide me a new unit, FOC - statutory consumer rights etc? Or is that the first 3 months for an exchange, and 12 months for repair?!
Either way, their insurance (which costs £5/month) has gone down in value for money a LOT now.
R.
Damnit. Mine went today for repair. Apparantly it has to have the same fault three times before 02 will replace it
This truly is the worst handset I ever had for reliability.
Yep same problem here. Started after about a month....not found a cure.
strange, i never had this problem!!!! :?:
does it make any difference with Asia IIs? I haven't had that issue yet. Only issue i have is when the phone is in Vibration mode .. the volume slider starts to vibrate and make a buzzing noise (kinda annoying).
XDA IIs Asia model owners
did any on the XDA IIs owners with asia model ever face this problem? put in ur views!
Yeah, I had the handset just over a month. Maybe its just the odd one has some kinda dodgy component which after about that time has an adverse effect on the screen. Strange, I hate this thing so much but after a day of no PDA I miss it terribly
mike: whats ur country
hi mike,
whats ur country of origin and was ur XDA iis of Asian origin?
Sorry no, It's UK
I've had an O2 XDA IIs for about 3 months, other than it crashing randomly when I got it, it has been absolutely fantastic.
The crashing was fixed by removing the O2 software.
I've had an O2 XDA IIs for about 3 months, other than it crashing randomly when I got it, it has been absolutely fantastic.
The crashing was fixed by removing the O2 software.
Mine also crashes randomly, 02 software or not.
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Mine also crashes randomly, 02 software or not.
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maybe you could try an IMATE rom 1.40 i have this and it solved all the minor problems that i had when i was on the pants o2 rom!!!
Apparently, the whistling we are hearing is from the backlight circuit.
I can't remember whether the BA uses fluorescent or elctroluminescent devices for backlight, but if you listen to almost ANY EL device (mp3 players, watches, etc) you will find they, too, eminate a slight whistle.
The emphasis, however, is on _SLIGHT_.
It's due to the high-frequency AC power that is used to give the glow - what we're hearing is the oscillator... well... oscillating.
That is (so I'm told) the technical blurb - and I've listened to all my other EL things I own, and yes, they do whistle too, very very quietly.
So - whistling BA owners - we have FAULTY DEVICES. :-(
R.
Wowzers you know your stuff. My whistling was immediately noticable when it first started and from a distance so it's defo not slight lol.
Cheers for the technical Jargon! I'll use it as ammuntion in the 02 shop when I try to trade this for a 2i
i spent 10min listening to my screen and another 10min on the phone to test out this theory. no whistling BA's here. maybe it's a bad batch of BA?
So the 02 shop just rang me at home. Apparantly the repair centre has decided that I have damaged the screen and that I have to pay £160 for a new screen or £17.50 to get it sent back unrepaired.
I'm not happy considering I KNOW I didn't damage the handset. If it was sat on the desk not doing it, I didnt move it, then it started doing it then I'd say I had nothing to do with it. I especially don't want to pay £160 to get a screen back which will only start whistling again in a month.
02 are scum.
Ello,
I currently have an XDA IIs (Blue Angel). When I picked it up, it was beautiful. But now, it's starting to irritate me.
1. The whistling screen is louder than ever and it's driving me insane!
2.1 After updating to the newest official O2 ROM, the general speed of the machine is terrible! It crashes all the time (especially using TomTom).
2.2 After updating, I can no longer watch videos off my SD card without them jumping about, playing audio static every other second, of simply not accepting it at all!
So, I'm thinking of getting a new XDA - but which one??
This is what I use my XDA IIs for:
> TomTom Navigator 5 - I use this every day (when it works).
> Playing videos - 99% of the time of my 1GB SD card.
> E-mail
> Internet - lots of browsing and data transfers - - I try to use wi-fi whenever possible.
-I'm told that if I use 3G, then data charges won't be quite so massive, but I can't find any evidence of this.
> I'd love to get Skype working, but so far I've been unsuccessful.
I'd also love to get video calling going, but I read that O2 are going to start charging at rather high prices and not taking it out of the inclusive minutes - ergh.
+Plus, a usable camera would be nice.
What are your experiences? Any advice?
ANY help here would be very much appreciated!
Big thanks in advance!
-b
If you want video calling and want to stick with O2 then you'll need the XDA Pro. (O2's version of the HTC Universal)
Don't know about O2's charges but GPRS and 3G data with Orange cost the same. £1 per MB on the tarrif I'm on. 3G is just faster and would probably cost more because you're likely to use it more because of the usable speed.
I use tomtom every day on my Xdaiis with the latest official O2 ROM and it never crashes. Are you using it in corporate mode? Also considering your issue with videos too, I'd wonder if it's your SD card that is at fault rather than your device. Perhaps it might be worthwhile backing up everything on the card, formatting it and then putting everything back on. If possible try another SD card altogether.
however none of this will fix your whistling screen, or quell your desire to upgrade.
On O2 the universal is the xda exec, on t-mobile it's the mda pro and on Orange it's the SPV m5000, you might want to take a look at those, t-mobile do good data packages withj their walk & web tariffs, but it's t-mobile, Orange have the best 3g coverage but screw the device up a bit with their crappy homescreen software, O2 have the better looking device, with least modifications if you turn off O2 active, but their 3g coverage is not too impressive.
Nice one, peeps.
I thought the O2 Exec was the universal?
Any more for any more?
hey all, my XDA II O2 is dead, i have a bit of a story to tell about it too. the poor thing won't boot up past the O2 spash screen.
i was initially selling my O2 around the traps as a working unit, then someone asked me to show them landscape view, and i didn't know how. i soon found out i needed to upgrade to 2003se or 2005. so on my homage to flashing my O2's ROM. i went and tried a 2005 and some random version radio stack hoping to upgrade two things at once, then, only one worked. my OS flash was fine, but my radio ROM didn't work at all. so basically i could get into WM2003, 2003SE, 2005 fine but couldnt use my simcard.
i've tried countless times to manually fix it aswell as using the official O2 ROM update off their site. then i went and sent it to O2 customer service or whatever it's called this year . they charged me $45AUD for general service fee which included flashing the radio and OS roms up to the latest. then they ring me up one morning saying my poor O2 needs a new motherboard (somewhere between $350 - 450 i think). i asked why, they said because it wouldn't power on at all. so i tried turning it on, it didnt work all of a sudden, so to speak.
i still had to pay the $45aud and ended up without a working O2, at all.
i felt furious but helpless and tried not to have to pay the fee, but had to.
long story short, heh, i need to do something with my shell of a XDA II, either sell, sell parts, fix, find a special ROM flash that might fix it. i don't know, i've tried so hard and have gotten nowhere. so, guys, any insight in what i could/should do?? any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks! :shock:
OH OH OH also, on that note, i can't go into bootloader mode or any other mode at all, so i cant re-flash
Threaten to sue. It worked partially when you sent it to them as it would power up - they've made it worse.
Richard
hey, thanks for the reply..
i've left it too long, i got so discouraged from touching it after getting it back.
i will ring them up/ get their details on who to ...ring next, i guess.
thanks!
damnation said:
hey, thanks for the reply..
i've left it too long, i got so discouraged from touching it after getting it back.
i will ring them up/ get their details on who to ...ring next, i guess.
thanks!
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If all else fails I can sell you a working mainboard for a LOT less than $400 aus but I would need to know which LCD type you have.
Richard
Threaten to have a ghay german cannibal come knocking jk
Hi all,
this is my first post on this site. I was planning on getting an XDA orbit through o2 this week as an upgrade to my current contract. This would be my first PDA phone and i was looking forward to it and all the possiblities it includes. However after reading the posts on here i'm having second thoughts. This is mainly down to the MicroSD memory corruption issue. First of all is the likely to happen to my orbit if i get one, will there be a fix for it and is it a big enough problem for me not to bother and look at an alternative instead.Also does anybody use there PDA though a mac instead of a PC and does it cause many compatibility issues?
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance
James
JimboXiii said:
However after reading the posts on here i'm having second thoughts. This is mainly down to the MicroSD memory corruption issue. First of all is the likely to happen to my orbit if i get one, will there be a fix for it and is it a big enough problem for me not to bother and look at an alternative instead.
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Much as I admire the technology and form factor of the Orbit, I certainly could not advise you to get one until the MicroSD issue has been resolved.
Can you really afford to have a device which functions as your telephone/calendar/to do list/phone book/navigation device, but which you never know whether it will be OK or corrupted when you need to use it? Read through the (> 46 page long) thread here and take a guess on how likely you are to experience this problem.
HTC were supposed to be developing a fix, but it has been a long time now and nothing has been forthcoming. There has also been speculation that WM6 will be provided free of charge to owners, but this is a HTC decision not an O2 one. If you buy an O2 branded Orbit, you will need to wait until O2 decide whether they will make WM6 available. If they do, it may or may not be a chargeable upgrade, and there will certainly be a further delay while they apply the O2 customisations to the build.
Hi
I have had my Orbit for around 4 months now. I read the tread mentioned above and did worry about card corruption. So far it has only happened to me once (touch wood) but I had synced my whole SD card to my pc, so all i needed to do was reformat it using either my phone or a card reader an copy all the data back again, worked a treat.
have a look for 'Mob Sync' i got a free version from http://www.xda-orbit.com/
Apart from the card issue I have been really happy with mine.
I strongly recommend you to wait with final decision until Windows Mobile 6 for this device. I bought HTC Artemis (unbranded) and I regularly read HTC's answers that they are working on SD card problem issue. If this bug will exist in HTC P3300 with WM6 I will return device. It's not possible to use this as "Personal Digital Assistant" when your data are gone from time to time.
@richiev4
I'm happy with all that great features of Artemis too and I wish you luck with your device, but remember that data corruption problem occurs randomly. My device worked flawlessly 2 weeks, other time 3 hours so you never know.
So stay tuned and save your money if you can...
Cheers
I was in that delimma 2 weeks ago, saw extensive support for P3300 with the HTC itself committing to releasing the WM6 ROM's as well for it, so I ended up getting the P3300
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I was in that delimma 2 weeks ago, saw extensive support for P3300 with the HTC itself committing to releasing the WM6 ROM's as well for it, so I ended up getting the P3300
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Well that's a level of commitment that I certainly haven't seen from HTC! They have known about the Data Card Corruption issue for quite a long time now, and they still haven't actually done anything about it.
Also, the original question was about getting an O2 Orbit, not a HTC P3300. Even if HTC do release a WM6 ROM, there is no guarantee that it will actually fix the data corruption problem or that O2 will decide to release it. And even if O2 do decide to release it, there is no guarantee that it will be free of charge to their customers. Plus there would be (another) delay while they add the O2 customizations.
The lifetime of a Smartphone or PDA is probably below 1 year now. Why spend money on a device that you cannot rely on, in the hope that there might be a fix some time in the future? If I knew then what I know now, I would not have bought my Orbit.
Sadly, in Canada these phones are not available to buy thru a contract, you have to buy them unlocked and at full price.
Right, well i had enough on my tytn!! Contacted orange and got a new contract and getting an spv m3100 (free).
my question is, have i made the right move? I'm thinking about updating the rom, but will i still have the same issues? ie, not turning back on sometimes after i turn it off? also, text messeges not being sent? I use the black pro rom at the moment. is there a new updated version that most people are happy with? i have insured it with orange, so if it f**cks up on the upgrade or after, i can always "lose" it.
Let me get this right - you had a TyTN and now you have a SPV M3100?
These are the same devices, same hardware.
I guess the problems you are describing are caused by software - not by hardware.
Regarding a new ROM version - have you tried to read this forum? There are plenty out there.
as said its the same device?
tho be its now black than pink
same device, maybe so. but htc seem to suck at customer service. prolly the same with orange, but i'll be insuring the phone.
maybe, my tytn is duff. i had problems from day one but htc did nuttin about it! decided to go back on contract for a couple of reasons. 1 being gprs/g3 is way cheaper, and whats more the device is free!!
anyway, i'll give it a go, and if i'm not happy within 14 days, i'll be sending it back and getting something else, maybe an m700.
cheers anyway
wouldnt it have been worth trying some dif roms on your tytn and see if that solves the problem.
Probably a bit silly taking out a new contract on an old phone that you already have when the tytn 2 is due to be released any day now.
Might be worth a play with your tytn more while you are still in your 14days.
Also if you are porting your pay as you go number across to your contract, and the process has already started then you will loose your number if you give the phone back in 14 days.
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wouldnt it have been worth trying some dif roms on your tytn and see if that solves the problem.
Probably a bit silly taking out a new contract on an old phone that you already have when the tytn 2 is due to be released any day now.
Might be worth a play with your tytn more while you are still in your 14days.
Also if you are porting your pay as you go number across to your contract, and the process has already started then you will loose your number if you give the phone back in 14 days.
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all good valid points.
I'm sure orange isn't going to release the new version for a while, but then i really don't know about these things.
I will try a couple more roms (tried 3 already), but to be honest, i really hate the looks of the tytn!! looks fully out dated! it's deffo going on ebay!
i'm not going to port the number over (unless they can do it as a line 2). Also, i am gonna stick with the orange contract, i'll just change devices. i like the m700 (more so if there's a black version).
Thanks for the comments!
Txt messages not being sent is not down to the phone but a network problem. I have no problem with the phone not turning on with the Schaps 3.54 rom so give that a try if you haven't.