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orange m2000 vs o2 xda iis

Hi all, I've been reading for ages on o2's xda iis or the blue angel and the probs all are having here in the uk but not once have I heard of or seen of anyone having this kind of trouble with the orange m2000. Are there any m2000 owners out there who would like to give some feedback on the issue and let us know if you too are swamped with problems. I personally would like this device to use, but really don't want to go out on a limb when the wind is already blowing. :mrgreen: As far as pda's and phones go, I'm not a whiz and certainly don't want to have to pay for something just to have to do a rom update, as well as take things off that shouldn't be there to start with...like the o2 rubbish I keep reading about. I'm thinking I'd be better off with a nokia 6630 or maybe the o2 xda ii i, but then, I have never been fond of nokias, and don't want to use a stylus all the time... the 2s would have been the answer (I think), or it is the only one that's really appealed to me in function and looks...so now I'm wondering what about an orange m2000, unlocked, using on o2...can you get manual settings to surf the net? any problems with the 2000?

I've got the M2000 and it has exactly the same problems as all the other Blue Angel's, it's just less popular (party cause Orange don't tell anyone they sell it).
I'm now waiting for Orange to send me a replacement because mine is fastly becoming unusable. It's fine most of the time (aside from the usual problems), but when it crashes, a soft reset doesn't work and I have to remove the SD and the SIM card for up to an hour before I get get it to work again.
I know other people with M2000's who don't have these problems so I've hopefully just got a dodgy phone.
Edited to add that while the M2000 doesn't look as pretty as the XDAIIs, Orange don't put on any of the O2 extra rubbish that O2 do which is good. And the phone can easily be unlocked so you can use it with anyone.

to be honest the only problems that i've ever had with my IIs were all down to the 02 active stuff. once i got rid of that and upgraded to the latest rom (think they all ship with this now anyway) it's been trouble free

I had and XDA IIs which I purchased only 2 weeks ago and it never worked properly. I never even got round to installing any useful software. Twice it hard reset itself while I was opening pictures to send as MMS’s. And I had to soft reset it at least once every day. I even removed the 02 active crap but it was still unstable. The other thing with the IIs is the screen. WHY CHANGE IT! My old one is great but the new one has an awful rancid look and you can’t see it at a slight angle, you have to look straight at it.
I’ve sent it back now and am going to try the IIi in the hope that the faster processor and bigger memory make the device more stable. I’m back to using my XDAII now which I have no trouble with at all, its just old and a bit broken.

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Hi guys, thanks for the response...think I'm going to go with the nokia 6630 for the pic quality, real player, and 3g connection. Might check out the o2 xda ii i, but really wanted a keypad. However, I've got plenty of time to see if there are any bugs in both. have you guys checked out howardforums.com? there is lots of useful stuff on there too. Also, I'm wondering about the o2 magician or xda mini. they say o2 is not releasing them here but they are supposed to be pretty good. anyone know about those?

Well I have both ( and all other versions of XDA's as well.. as we have lots).
I personally prefer the Orange m2000, as we got a free memory card and none of that god awful O2 active built into the rom. Seriously.. that O2 active is such a negative thing to my users. (wake up O2 - the XDA2s / M2000 is geared towards business users with their own apps. they seriously do not need or want a damned instant install popup spam menu.
XDA 4 / M5000 / HTC Universal wont be availble till end September.. So its a case of waiting.. (mines on preorder )

The O2 Active stuff is V.V.Easy to remove so I wouldn't worry about that to much and just go for the device you like the look of the most and can get the best price on

just bought an orange spv c500 and im well impressed.. a little hard to operate at first because of the buttons.. been used to touch screen for so long ive forgoten what buttons are for but it does everything my XDAII can in a smaller package. still trying to sort out the gprs settings because its an oarange phone but apart from that..... o2 canstick the XDAIIs where the sun dont shine. :wink:
btw does anyone know the o2 gprs settings for and orange spv c500?

c500
Hey, why didn't you send me a pm? You're not gonna believe this. Was on ebay the other night and got a c500 myself. Figured why not give it a shot as I'm familiar with the spv, and also know a lot about the e200, but know nothing about the c500. A guy I work with has 2 e200's, 1 has a switchboard problem and the other, is working on a switchboard problem. I figured out the settings for the spv as well as the spv e200.. Have you ever heard of Modaco.com? go there... look for gprs settings repository or something like that. Loads of settings are there...but the catch is, you have to mess around with them and tweak them to make them work, but it can be done. took me 3 weeks one time of thinking, and pulling my hair out...but eventually was accomplished. This guy that has 2, one is on orange and the other is on o2. The c500 might be different, but if you are willing to work on it with me...so am I. I'll have to send the phone to HTC first to get it fixed as it has a cracked screen (lcd) and outer, but apart from that it's perfect. This is strange...but cool. I think....

O2 woes. Dead O2 after getting it back from customer support

hey all, my XDA II O2 is dead, i have a bit of a story to tell about it too. the poor thing won't boot up past the O2 spash screen.
i was initially selling my O2 around the traps as a working unit, then someone asked me to show them landscape view, and i didn't know how. i soon found out i needed to upgrade to 2003se or 2005. so on my homage to flashing my O2's ROM. i went and tried a 2005 and some random version radio stack hoping to upgrade two things at once, then, only one worked. my OS flash was fine, but my radio ROM didn't work at all. so basically i could get into WM2003, 2003SE, 2005 fine but couldnt use my simcard.
i've tried countless times to manually fix it aswell as using the official O2 ROM update off their site. then i went and sent it to O2 customer service or whatever it's called this year . they charged me $45AUD for general service fee which included flashing the radio and OS roms up to the latest. then they ring me up one morning saying my poor O2 needs a new motherboard (somewhere between $350 - 450 i think). i asked why, they said because it wouldn't power on at all. so i tried turning it on, it didnt work all of a sudden, so to speak.
i still had to pay the $45aud and ended up without a working O2, at all.
i felt furious but helpless and tried not to have to pay the fee, but had to.
long story short, heh, i need to do something with my shell of a XDA II, either sell, sell parts, fix, find a special ROM flash that might fix it. i don't know, i've tried so hard and have gotten nowhere. so, guys, any insight in what i could/should do?? any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks! :shock:

OH OH OH also, on that note, i can't go into bootloader mode or any other mode at all, so i cant re-flash

Threaten to sue. It worked partially when you sent it to them as it would power up - they've made it worse.
Richard

hey, thanks for the reply..
i've left it too long, i got so discouraged from touching it after getting it back.
i will ring them up/ get their details on who to ...ring next, i guess.
thanks!

damnation said:
hey, thanks for the reply..
i've left it too long, i got so discouraged from touching it after getting it back.
i will ring them up/ get their details on who to ...ring next, i guess.
thanks!
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If all else fails I can sell you a working mainboard for a LOT less than $400 aus but I would need to know which LCD type you have.
Richard

Threaten to have a ghay german cannibal come knocking jk

sending back to get fixed need advice on OS version

hi im gonna send my phone back because the call/answer button doesnt work very well, i have flashed the phone to original htc but on the new windows mobile 6, i have downgraded the ipl and spl so i dont have olipro. Just wanted to know if its fine to send back phone on the new os or is it prefered if it was back on wm5 instead of 6?
i dont want them complaining its my fault for the button not working well, but i do know its hardware related but you know how companies will squirm out of paying to fix their problem.
Any advice would be grateful.
Kidd

I've seen many comments in many threads about returning phones under warranty and the consensus is that IPL/SPL or ROM probably doesn't matter. Nobody seems to notice....

I bricked my 8525 a couple of months ago while out in Los Altos, CA.
Took it into the AT&T dealership near Stanford. They exchanged it no questions asked. They basically looked it over to see if it had been dropped (looking for deep scratches), and checked the fluid indicator near the battery to ensure it had not gotten wet.
I don't think they care what version the phone is running, but I'm not 100% positive.

if ur phone is htc branded then yes it is okay as u are sending it back with a official htc rom. if its another then send it back with that carriers rom. better safe the sorry.
EDIT: i see u have a htc tytn so yes dont worrry about it as long as spl and ipl are the same as original.

thanks for the advice, hopefully the wont complain about the little scratches, im abit clumsy this past few weeks. Cheers all

AT&T Tilt 2 Problems > Please Help!

Hey guys, so I've had the tilt 2 for about 2 weeks now and for the past couple of days I've had some problems with it. My phone sometimes REALLY laggy, this tends to happen MOSTLY when I'm trying to access my messages. The screen freezes for like a minutes and then lags a lot. I eventually have to hold down the power key and turn off the phone which takes a while, I try to stray away from taking the battery out. Also it seems as if sometimes the phone is acting really slow, trust me though I am very pleased with this phone, however these few issues have been bothering me.
Is their a reason why my phone lags and freezes every once in a while and is there a way to stop this?
Is their anyway to speed up my phone? If so how?
Also, I called AT&T and had my old LG Incite replaced with the Tilt 2, they shipped me the Tilt 2 and I shipped them back my LG Incite, they did this all for no cost what so ever on my part, shipping was free and I got my phone the next day I ordered it (First class mail I presume). Now the question is am I still eligible for the 30-day warranty? I'm not sure if that's exactly whats its called but I know when you buy a phone from a store you have up to 30 days to replace it for another new phone (same exact phone) if you had any problems with it. Can I get my Tilt 2 replaced for a new Tilt 2?

Howdy
Well I think you are having the same issues a lot of us have had, and the thing is most actually flash a non-stock ROM.
HTC has released some patches for the laggy SMS issue you can find that here
Also I have heard to never ever pull the battery there is an actual reset button located above the stylus on the side of the phone, but you must remove the cover!
As for the thirty day warranty you may very well still be eligible I actually went through 3 Fuze's before I received a Tilt 2 (albeit it was unreleased... at the time I received 2 Fuze's), but the only way to be sure is to contact AT&T. I'd say your best bet would to be to attempt and obtain another Tilt 2 just to rule out faulty hardware, and then run the patches and see if that is better!
Oh and try jumping over to the ROM forum and read up on Flashing a custom ROM, but PLEASE beware if you do this you will have to revert the device to factory ROM, SPL, and Radio prior to sending it to AT&T! Essentially it "voids" the warranty, but you can easily return the device to stock with a little know how!
Good luck to you and have a Merry Christmas!
Edit: Sorry I kinda missed "is there anyway to speed it up" and yeah there are a lot of ways: Try looking for Advanced Config, Clean RAM (to keep your memory freed up), and there is a thread somewhere that lists bloatware that can be removed. However, the best and quickest way would to be to look into a Custom ROM, in fact there is a "bloat free" version of the AT&T ROM available on this forum!

My now pitiful experience with the M8

I love this phone. It's sexy, fast, and did I say sexy? But I'm on my second one now. The first had five stuck pixels and the top was pealing off. This one has none of that, but the touch screen is bugged. If I touch the backspace key on the Google Keyboard, I'll hit P somehow then it will select something random on the screen. If I'm scrolling through the homescreen, an app will open out of nowhere. If I press the back button, it will register it as a slide all the way up the screen and open Google now. I don't know if this is software, but so far it looks like I'm going to have to get another M8. If that one has problems, I'm going to the S5, no matter how ugly and bloatware ridden it is. I can't believe I've gotten two lemons in a row.
On that note, does T-Mobile offer replacements 14 days after getting the replacement, or is it only 14 days after getting the original device? I unlocked the bootloader so I don't want to send it in to HTC.

Get that info from your carrier. Go within these 14 days to a tmobile shop or just call them.
We are not tmobile here

Mr Hofs said:
Get that info from your carrier. Go within these 14 days to a tmobile shop or just call them.
We are not tmobile here
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I realize that, I was just seeing if somebody may have had a similar experience, and hoping this was a bug I'm experiencing now, like how my old GNex couldn't detect corners of the screen.

Gatortribe said:
I realize that, I was just seeing if somebody may have had a similar experience, and hoping this was a bug I'm experiencing now, like how my old GNex couldn't detect corners of the screen.
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I had the phantom in the keyboard after installing insert coin 2.10 but after updating to 2.3.2 its all good, now the only thing that pisses me off is the whelp message on firewater s off lol :good::good:

Sometimes it makes me happy to live in "technology backwards Australia" (relatively). A year and a bit ago, my 1 year old son thought my HTC ONE X would look better in a bucket of water, maybe he was trying to make a boat.. It had been around 6 months since I had it, I don't get "insurance", IMHO, a scam for most cases over here. Drying it out with silca + rice, I got it going again except it wouldn't read the SIM card. I took it in one of the local carrier shops (Vodafone), we're discussing the possible costs, and she sees my "very colourful" ViperROM, naturally no Vodafone look or apps (LOL).
The girl says it will be "a cost involved" if I want HTC to examine + repair and/or replace phone yada yada. Memory says she said it was $50 to get HTC to look at the phone to let me know if it was repairable etc.. So, I say thanks, go home, look for Vodafone RUU. Go back to stock, go to the other shop, I talk about the phone not working, playing dumb. The attendant guy says "Ok, let see what I can do for you". He goes to a cupboard, finds a refurbished HTC ONE X, and swaps it over on the spot.. Yay for people who don't "dig deeper", as all the phone stuff was less than a day old, that kinda looks suss, unless factory reset would make the files have similar timestamps etc..
But meh, I got a new phone replacement basically, well I didn't have the POGO pins working so my cheap ebay powered case wasn't worth getting extra time, but that was ok, ROM improvements plus my own 10plus hours a day helping out some ROM + kernel devs suss out the battery, we were getting a "pretty good" daily use per charge as opposed to the start, plus I owned 2 or 3 Nexus 7s by then... heh.
And it was somewhat mind blowing walking past the phone shops with the wife+ kids seeing the M8 on release day, no "fanfare" or trying to show off the M8 as a great flagship, it was on display next to an iPhone 4 and a Note (2 or 3).. And then the S5 on it's release did get the little bit of extra 'showing off', but overall, to most ignorant people (non insult), they were just other phones there, well besides how most people know someone or have had a galaxy themselves so therefore may be drawn to that.
And I spent a bit of time at the carrier shops recently as my wife (plus myself) were able to get a new phone, which my wife did, I mainly was inquiring about cheaper or better plans of similar cost since I was happy with my G2. I get a date personally that I have to wait to get a new plan as Vodafone want to intice people to get new phones so they can finish their plans earlier than 'just' getting out of contract to another sim plan.
True to Murphey's law, my G2 got hosed that night, HAHA. Had one 'big death' like that, did the stuff needed to reload the phone with a tot file etc, but the EFS partiton was truly hosed. Baseband, simcard, wifi was truly dead on stock JB, Kitkat and various custom roms I installed that night. Next day, M8 baby!

I got a perfect unit.
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