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Hi Everyone,
To give xda lovers an idea on the performance characteristics of the most popular 3 WM6 releases, i have just spent the last few hours doing a benchmark using SPB.
The test set up was:
1. OS Flash only
2. No additional Apps after fresh Hard Reset (except SPB Benchmark)
3. Imate Jasjam HT647
4. Main test completed only (no storage card or battery life)
The results speak for themselves (the highest achieving score is marked in red)
EDIT: I forgot the Vanilla ROM. Will update tomorrow, time for sleep, its 5am GMT+10. and only 5 hours sleep in the last 2.75 days.
Thanks,
I know everyone was looking for something like this. Now I know I choose the right OS flavor
Excellent work!!! the dark side wins! wow... maybe I should try it after all
I have a request for all rom cooker and publisher:
PLEASE, once relased a rom, write in the FIRST post:
All possible information about used memory at HR (RAM & Programs).
All reg tweaks included
All external programs installed
Other tweaks like video drivers etc.
All new issues resolved (like VoIP & others)
Someone has done it, someone not. Please post yours cooked rom in this way, so we all can do the right choice, in base at our necessity.
regards
Every time I think I have seen just how resourceful this group is someone comes out of the woodwork and does the yet another thing to surprise me.
(That and a friendly act of one-up-manship )
Many thanks i've been wondering if there was much difference in the speed of the ROMs, now i know. Does any one know how the WM6 ROMs compare to WM5 ROMs speeds?
Yeah - the results do speak for themselves. In my humble opinion, they demonstrate that there is almost nothing to choose between the ROMs in this test because the differences are really tiny. I wonder if you'd even get the same results if you ran the tests a second time?
Thanks for running the tests - interesting stuff!
Izzard-UK said:
Yeah - the results do speak for themselves. In my humble opinion, they demonstrate that there is almost nothing to choose between the ROMs in this test because the differences are really tiny. I wonder if you'd even get the same results if you ran the tests a second time?
Thanks for running the tests - interesting stuff!
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Sanity! A valuable exercise, but no meaningful difference. Is there en equivalent table for some WM5 ROMS? I keep hearing that WM6 is quicker.
The tables we saw for the different WM5 roms (especially comparing the stock TyTN rom with the south africa and AKU3.3 test roms) were VERY helpfull and the differences were quite noticeable (stability-wise aswell as speed), the WM6 comparisons are all pretty much the same, did the Vanilla rom get a mention at all??
Once we see a full Hermes WM6 rom (from iMate, HTC, Dopod et all) cooked for LVSW,Black or WMXL i predict we may see a noticeable difference from these current ones.
Good thread
What's really frackin kewl about this whole thing is
1. All the roms kick arse.
2. We have a WM6 ROM
3. Have multiple WM6 roms to choose from
4. Start @ 1. and repeat
Don't you just want to laugh! XDA LIVES and it is livin in WM6!
now i personally havent tried any of the wm6, as me and a few others are currently cooking a rom with PTT, i cant go without this feature so i am being patient... I have loaded a few up on my test phone, but havent fully given them a test drive yet... so im not putting anyone or any rom down with this comment, but its something you must realize... fastest doesnt necessarily mean its the most stable. and even if you find one that is stable with your apps doesnt mean its going to be stable for the next guy, its all trial and error
LSVW seems to be the one that runs the most stable without issue and pretty speedy
WM Black runs the fastest, but most unstable for me. Maybe it just the applications I installed having issues. I will works on it again tonight. (After 5 flash......)
WMXL 2.0 has really good features and runs pretty stable too, but somehow it runs slower than other two. A very good custom ROM.
Again, I am not a preofessional give a fair overview. This is just my experience with all 3.
Penske MB said:
LSVW seems to be the one that runs the most stable without issue and pretty speedy
WM Black runs the fastest, but most unstable for me. Maybe it just the applications I installed having issues. I will works on it again tonight. (After 5 flash......)
WMXL 2.0 has really good features and runs pretty stable too, but somehow it runs slower than other two. A very good custom ROM.
Again, I am not a preofessional give a fair overview. This is just my experience with all 3.
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i completely agree with you...i tried all three and lsvw seems to be the most stable
Same OS, the test results didn't show any significant different..........just a little bit.
It will be better and perfect test ,if u compare with WM5.
Thk
Hi guys,
the benchmarks I did last night for the 3 roms were done after a clean HR with no additional hacks patches, hence, as they were release by the chef's.
There isnt a significant difference in speed between the three but you will notice that WMXL has around 20mb of free RAM on a fresh HR as it loads more UI data etc in RAM to provide a faster response (this was checked with SKTOOLS).
It will be interesting to see how these roms compare against an official WM6 hermes ROM if one will ever be released.
Nonetheless, as these roms are cooked, expect to find bugs or undisclosed features. If bugs are found, the chefs will try and resolve them etc. Also remember that even though our HERMES are essentially the same, some ROMS wonts work on som devices, so you might have to see what works for you. luckily my JASJAM is compatible with all the roms posted so far so it is pretty universal.
Enjoy the contributions guys and if you can, please donate the xda-developers for the help it has iven you.
I agree that LSVW ROM is the most stable among 3 WM6 ROMs
hatori said:
Same OS, the test results didn't show any significant different..........just a little bit.
It will be better and perfect test ,if u compare with WM5.
Thk
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i will do this soon, give ma an hour....or so.....
mtty is getting a work out.
I will flash SA1.35 and an AKU3.3 ROM.
and then post the results in the first post.
Ping Jasjammin, did you do the WM6 v WM% benchmark? Be good to see how they compare on a fresh comparable install
It seems that schaps has fallen behind with releasing the latest 6.1 (due to personal things that he has to deal with), and I've been looking to install a new release on my phone. Which version out today comes closest to what schaps had?
I'm currently using Pays v3.05 lite and I would say its pretty close to schaps ROM's.
MrDSL said:
I'm currently using Pays v3.05 lite and I would say its pretty close to schaps ROM's.
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Did you notice battery drain with Pays ROM?
Cheers
ibeqa said:
Did you notice battery drain with Pays ROM?
Cheers
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Honestly I think I need a new battery because its been messed up for awhile so I couldnt say for sure.
ive changed from schaps to pays and the battery drain is over! it's a bug from all schaps versions
My clean version is similar to Schaps'. See link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372118
tehCORE said:
ive changed from schaps to pays and the battery drain is over! it's a bug from all schaps versions
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I have to say thats a bit unfair. My battery life is much better since I upgraded from WM5 std ROM to Schaps 4.31.
It seems each of us has a different experience and that can be as simple as installed apps location or as random as brand of storage card.
The Chefs put in a lot of effort and to slate a whole series of ROMS from one Chef is unfair and quite probably unjust as I know of several people who are also using Schaps ROMS and experience no such issue.
did you noticed the WM6.1 build number of 4.40 rom by schaps ? is by far the highest ....
Not behind ... just the opposite
Schaps 4.40 - BETA!
Did you noticed, that Schaps 4.40 is not stable BETA version? There are newer and better WM6.1 ROMs. Pays and ShadoW are very good.
I've also been looking for something...waiting for Schaps really. So, should I go Pays?
Faria / Dr Puttingham WM6.1 Collaboration rom
Haven't tried K's or Pays wm6.1 roms but i have to say the Faria/Dr Puttingham collaboration has been my favourite so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368317
Currently waiting for their latest release which should be out in a couple of days.
I am waiting for a good Schaps 6.1 ROM as well, but I need something new. I might install 4.3x just to get some touchflo going. I am still on 4.0.
what's the advantage of using wm6.1 over wm6?
Ok, so help me out and all the other people who are in the same situation as i am.
There are so many different roms that i dont know which one is the one to use.
All i (we?) want is one that is fast, very fast
With some extra memory available.
And is stable.
At the moment i see some official roms
the Elite 2.0
Surface
TLR Diamond ROM 2
(and more?)
What is the one to go with?????
Share your opinion if you tryd 2 or more of them.
And what should we be looking for when picking one.
Thank you in advanced!
The Bepe beta rom is the fastest rom I have ever seen on Diamond.
You should give it a try
i am using the latest official dutch one from htc. it is really fast, you can even increase the speed a little more with the tweaks. and offcourse it is in dutch
Each of the ROMs is built upon a philosophy, and the best way to figure out which one is best for you is trying them. Personally, I've chosen for the TLR2 Rom, because I like that it keeps things as if they were stock, and the autoupdater in it is a gold idea.
sandervanzijl said:
i am using the latest official dutch one from htc. it is really fast, you can even increase the speed a little more with the tweaks. and offcourse it is in dutch
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Here number two.
Absolutedly advicable.
Phone is well, what I expect from it now. 100% usable
TLR was ok, but version two was not a succes. Bit sluggish now and then, hangs a bit, got screwed up
(I installed .Net on dutch rom afterwards, version 3.5. Its even better then!)
With the introduction of the 6.5 ROM, we all know that this rom is to heavy for the trinity user. Realisiticly seen we are left with the 6.1. So. The question that are arises, is there anyone here that is able to cook a good, quality, stable rom that is clean, has touchflow extracted from 6.5 and with uptodate software, kinda like the tytnn rom or the flinx one.
are you blind? there are nice working and fast WM6.5 roms out there, i'm using one myself so... pointless topic.
thanx
jedai said:
are you blind? there are nice working and fast WM6.5 roms out there, i'm using one myself so... pointless topic.
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hello, can you indicate your favorite rom 6.5 for trinity? tank you!
vimafeje said:
hello, can you indicate your favorite rom 6.5 for trinity? tank you!
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I'm using this one and I'm quite happy with it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494727
joefso said:
With the introduction of the 6.5 ROM, we all know that this rom is to heavy for the trinity user. Realisiticly seen we are left with the 6.1. So. The question that are arises, is there anyone here that is able to cook a good, quality, stable rom that is clean, has touchflow extracted from 6.5 and with uptodate software, kinda like the tytnn rom or the flinx one.
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....really don't be so "blind"eheheheh!!!!my trinity is going very well wuth rubenalf ita tranlsation,jml today 5.5,tomtom7,videocalling,wifi going well,navisat working,google maps,Icontact,s2p music player,4 gyga microsd,diamond clock with animation -
- the only problem is my battery,after 2 years of really hard working now I'm really thinking about changing it!!
those 6.5 roms are slow on the trinity devices. Let's be honest. If you break the 6.5 down and strip it off, then it runs with poor memory. Conclusion? Trinity will not be able to take the 6.5 fully.
... pointless topic
Super Ultra Lite version of 28014. Fast, staible, lots of free space.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600957
I am agry with jedai ... pointless topic!
there is not much free memory, we can trim down any rom and make it as small as we want. But can we make 6.5 so that it has a lot of free memory? No.
little reflection
trinity is a very very good device!!!
but last period roms have recentely become beautiful and heavy for our little jewel.
Unfortunately, the development of this work no longer leads to great satisfaction as before
I thank all the heroes - cooks who have allowed us to see with interest our device for several years without tiring us.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!
r75
joefso said:
there is not much free memory, we can trim down any rom and make it as small as we want. But can we make 6.5 so that it has a lot of free memory? No.
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WM 6.5 23504 Lite
26.07MB Free Ram - While Running SPBMS 3.5, it settles in to 18-22MB
74.87MB Free Storage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580402
I don't know about you, but seems to me this is plenty of free RAM. It's even more than some of the older builds. There will be more updates to come still, just working out bugs on the latest builds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600957
yes I agree withbguys about 6.5 is too heavy to be honest and u can't run programs need a lot of memory or need a cpu preformane ...
I'm wondring about if this radio rom is spending battery 1.38.00.11 cuz I'm running out of battery so fast when I'm using internet and if there's a better one how I can change it cuz I tried too many times to change and didn't work
i just tried the 23504 Blue. It's slow. . . I keep on returning to finx latest rom with adjusted page pool settings. This rom is pretty fast, stable and has sufficient ram. If anybody is convinced trinity can handle 6.5 like that. Show me.
i also tried 6.5 and went back to 6.1.
Sure you can use 6.5 but it's slower, no matter how lite the version is. Start installing some stuff (specially recent versions which are also heavier) and everything feels even slower.
Nowadays no one produces software thinking about how it will run on our old trinity.
I'm even considering going back to 6.0 to see if i can get some more speed, don't think i'll be missing much from 6.1 anyway.
I'm currently on tomme45i's 6.1 which is a very good rom but it is also a bit slower (and buggier, imho) than finx's.
well, i'm using a 6.1 rom from tommie45, for me, it's the better rom i have ever try!!!
i dont know how, but his roms are the most stable and complete for trinity. it's my opinion!
i gave up on tommie45's rom and got back to finix 3.7.2.
It's not as pretty (b&w icons, uglier in general) and some functionality is less practical but... it feels much faster!
I recommend doing the same if the rom you are using feels slow.
Im using SuperSport WM6.5 build 23506 LITE and there hasn't been so much problems with it, but I can agree, 6.1 is faster, but the pro's in this rom is to many for me to use 6.1...
If I find the thread I'll put the link to it here.
Today at the phone store, they said they couldn't order the htc 3600 ( trinity ) anymore.......
PentaMedia said:
Im using SuperSport WM6.5 build 23506 LITE and there hasn't been so much problems with it, but I can agree, 6.1 is faster, but the pro's in this rom is to many for me to use 6.1...
If I find the thread I'll put the link to it here.
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wifi work? video call? bluetooth?
yeah it's a shame right? 3 years ago this phone was at the pinnacle of mobile communications, and today omg there's so many other things out there
however trinity and windows mobile is not dead! i've retired to a blackberry for my telephone call needs, but the trinity is now a dedicated GPS/dictionary. anyone else using it purely as a non-phone pda now?? and which rom??
I saw that there is an ATT rom i was wondering if there is a pre configured rom version that is fully functional with the US T-mobile. System? Ie a kinda like an improvement on the current 6.5 rom tmo put out.
The stock tmo rom isnt bad tho wish it had some of the speed of the cooked roms tho and maybe the 2.5 sense.
There is the Timor ROM. It hasn't been updated in a while and I thought he took out too much, but if you search here you can find it.
Honestly, I was tempted to modify the stock 6.5 ROM and try and put 2.5 in it, but even with the tutorials, building a ROM isn't easy.
Maybe we could take up a collection for a chef to do a stock ROM upgrade?
HOnestly doesnt sound like a BAD idea. NRG profile says T-MO and i think he in the states? IDK
I like the stock its not that bad but I love the functionality of the cooked roms. A mix of both would be great. It be great if there was a cab to upgrad sense to a new version?
Ok, what would we like to see in this ROM?
Stock T-Mobile 6.5 release (with all t-mo apps?)
Sense 2.5
.NET CF 3.5
FM Radio
WiFi hotspot
Anything else? What would you remove or add?
Thats it really that in addition to stock would be a dream!
speed
2.5 is awesome, but fast 2.5 is Great
yeah i would like this also... I want a faster and better performance...
Try Timor or Josh's Black series...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576076
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572938
Do we actually want the stock ROM or do we want a newer build?
I'll be honest, I've had problems with every custom ROM, either battery life (yes, I waited several days, the battery life isn't there) or having to reboot several times a day.
I'm back on stock for now because it just works better. I need something that's reliable on the T-Mobile network and I don't care about any other networks.
So, I'm voting for a direct change to the stock 6.5 ROM.
Is anyone else interested in a ROM like this? If we want it done, we can pledge some money and hire a chef.