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Confused about all the different roms

Ok, so help me out and all the other people who are in the same situation as i am.
There are so many different roms that i dont know which one is the one to use.
All i (we?) want is one that is fast, very fast
With some extra memory available.
And is stable.
At the moment i see some official roms
the Elite 2.0
Surface
TLR Diamond ROM 2
(and more?)
What is the one to go with?????
Share your opinion if you tryd 2 or more of them.
And what should we be looking for when picking one.
Thank you in advanced!

The Bepe beta rom is the fastest rom I have ever seen on Diamond.
You should give it a try

i am using the latest official dutch one from htc. it is really fast, you can even increase the speed a little more with the tweaks. and offcourse it is in dutch

Each of the ROMs is built upon a philosophy, and the best way to figure out which one is best for you is trying them. Personally, I've chosen for the TLR2 Rom, because I like that it keeps things as if they were stock, and the autoupdater in it is a gold idea.

sandervanzijl said:
i am using the latest official dutch one from htc. it is really fast, you can even increase the speed a little more with the tweaks. and offcourse it is in dutch
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Here number two.
Absolutedly advicable.
Phone is well, what I expect from it now. 100% usable
TLR was ok, but version two was not a succes. Bit sluggish now and then, hangs a bit, got screwed up
(I installed .Net on dutch rom afterwards, version 3.5. Its even better then!)

My Comparison of Sense 2.5 vs Sense 2.1

Let me state that I have tried in the last couple of days the various flavors of NRG's roms (Sense 2.1 vs 2.5), both 6.5 and 6.5.x, as well as Sergio's and some other roms.
After a number of people in various threads said that Sense 2.5 now runs almost as smoothly as Sense 2.1, I decided to give it a try for the first time in about 6-7 months.
NO WAY.
Anyone claiming that sense 2.5 runs as fast, smoothly or is as responsive as Sense 2.1 on a Rhodium is living in fantasy land. Its not even close. Its bitterly clear that Sense 2.5 is designed to run on 1ghz Snapdragon processors.
Is Sense 2.5 more visually appealing? ABSOLUTELY. For anyone who prefers 'eye candy' as their #1 requirement, I highly recommend you guys try NRG's Sense 2.5 ROM's. All the landscape issues of past months have pretty much been resolved, the icons, animations, etc look fantastic.
But its also a whole lot slower. Just switching between tabs causes lag, not to mention loading apps, emails, txt msgs, etc. It it horrific? No. But is it noticeably slower than Sense 2.1? Yea, for me it was without a doubt.
As for the the other Sense 2.5 ROM's... they all look great as well, both the 6.5 and 6.5.x versions. But in each and every instance, the phone was sluggish with some level of frequency.
I think its too bad that so many chefs are now cooking exclusively with Sense 2.5 ... our phones just cant handle the added resource requirements the way HD2's can.
So for now, I will continue to stick with Sense 2.1 rom's, always based on 6.5 since I hate the buttons at the bottom nonsense. But thats just me.

im with you buddy. I hate the buttons on the bottom stuff and all I wanted from sense 2.5 was the full screen. everything else is just a waste for daily use. To much lag from all the extra graphics.

Agree, 2.1 is the best for Rhodium as for performance!

depends on the build.

True. Me too, I was so tempted to flash the new eyecandy sense, but reading the threads, i've noticed only people that flash their phones 3 times a week (as a hobby or just for trying new stuff) are happy with it. I want more functionality, so I thought is not a good idea, now I see is not only me

I'm going to have to chime in and agree with you guys. I love the look and feel of 2.5, but it is too sluggish for me. I don't mean to dis the chef's here that spend a LOT of time so that we can have it, it's just that our processors aren't quite enough to handle the load. I've flashed just about every sense 2.5 here, and they are all quite slower than 2.1.
Oh, and I'm with you guys on the bottom buttons. IMO it just looks ugly, and seems unstable.

Yes, it's a little bit slower. But there has been a great speed improvement compared to the past. And I believe that the advantages still outweigh the disadvantages. I really don't want to go back to sense 2.1. Yes it's faster, but the way 2.5 looks and works is a great improvement.
And for the comparison between 6.5 and 6.5.X, if you like to have a small X button at the top then stick with 6.5. But if you like to use the phone without a stylus then the bottom buttons are really great. You can press the buttons faster so I think you just need to get used to it
For me 6.5.X with sense 2.5 is the best combo

2.1 all the way
the only difference i see in 2.5 is music tab but basically they're almost the same, 2.5 gives you less icon tab if you want more you have modified and that make it slower and them there's landscape for more they do to it its not perfect. common guy just add what you like from 2.5 to 2.1 and that would make a perfect rom.

2.5 has every tab redone to be more efficient. some builds even have the twitter client, document viewer, ebook reader, and foot prints. some builds, like the 2011 are made for this hardware and work really well. its up to what you like. and 2.1 will probably always be faster. but i like features. if you prefer 2.1, by all means use that instead. im not going to try and convert anybody to 2.5 like a mormon going door to door.

Like the above poster mentioned if your flashing often then I think that everything is snappy. I had so many crashing/freezing problems when 2.5 was cooked in. Everything disappeared when I flashed e2 att rom to my tilt 2 or if I used titanium. I love flashy stuff myself but at the end of the day I need something thats reliable. I want the device waiting on my input not the other way around.

and what about the official upgrade with sense 2.5 that tp2 got is it fast like on hd2 or still slow

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and what about the official upgrade with sense 2.5 that tp2 got is it fast like on hd2 or still slow
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I had high hopes when I heard about the official ROM with Sense 2.5...but it just wasn't meant to be. To me, it's slow.
Having gone back to stock WinMo 6.1 ROM, the performance was like night and day...

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and what about the official upgrade with sense 2.5 that tp2 got is it fast like on hd2 or still slow
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Im very interested in that also. Aren't most of the 2.5 manila that installed in most roms from other devices thats tweak to use with tp2. I would give a look at any official rom. Im running official without bloat and havent had a single problem.

the official 2.5 is just sluggish. None of my performance tweaks seems to work. Thats all. Tried it for 4 days and didnt encounter any problem with it except for slow and buggy messaging app. The home screen is noticeably slower when you have the weather up and running.
Overall, i needed a great response from my device, so i revert back to the official 2.1

It surprises me that nobody mentioned that tf3d/sense is just eye-candy in the first place! If you want a fast and stable rom, go for one without it.
Myself, I haven't noticed any severe lag on sense 2.5. It is a bit slower at some times (messaging), but nothing that pushes me back to 2.1.
Just my 2 cents...

i want the today quick launch icons from 2.5 thats all

I have up dated to the new ROM and I really like it asthetically it's pleasing but, as others have said, 2.5 is sluggish on a few things which is slowly becoming annoying. This is notibly when using the hardware keyboard pressing FN and then SMS, very slow.
Not that keen on the SMS app, preferred 2.1's and the calendar has too much of a delay in the agenda view to show all day appointments. The 'built-in' facebook features also seem to be slower than before. I may well go back to 2.1, we'll see.
My 2pence worth.

First of all thanks a lot for making this post as i 'm new to all this and i 'm currently expirimenting with different roms and i couldn't miss the slugginess you all refer too. I had decided that i would put energy rom which looked cool but when talk became action i was kind of disappointed. +i hate the people tab from 2.5. I want to have 3 people in there not 9. why make me? So switched to 2.1 and from now on i will only be looking for roms with that.
Thanks again.

Try the simplicity ROM, its buttery smooth and fast. Energy looks great and has a ton of cooked-in features and apps, but not the fastest. Other fast, lightweight ROMs are Jackos and Valkyrie. Haven't tried those myself, but good comments by other users.
And don't forget, most ROMs take a while to "settle" right after you flash. Give it at least an hour before you start freaking out about lag and slowness.

gunner13 said:
First of all thanks a lot for making this post as i 'm new to all this and i 'm currently expirimenting with different roms and i couldn't miss the slugginess you all refer too. I had decided that i would put energy rom which looked cool but when talk became action i was kind of disappointed. +i hate the people tab from 2.5. I want to have 3 people in there not 9. why make me? So switched to 2.1 and from now on i will only be looking for roms with that.
Thanks again.
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Are you relying on the information in an eight month old thread? Sense works wonderfully on the Rhodium. It requires a bit more work than TF3D, but the rewards are well worth it. As far as the people tab goes, you could simply use CHT to put a few contacts in one of the side pages. There's also OCT to look into to overclock the CPU. Running at a constant 748.8MHz makes the entire ROM buttery smooth. I, like most users here find that the benefits far outweigh any negative effects that you might find in the UI. Yes, it requires a bit more tweaking, but it is by far a better one than TF3D.
If you must go for a TF3D ROM, Jackos has a really good one available that you might want to consider.

[Q] why dont people cook roms ?

ok so i just got the lg expo and i am coming from the htc hd2 and i must say i am very dissapointed that there are not more cooked roms for the expo. and to be honest im not really sure what exactly the dragon rom does? i got my expo already loaded with it and dont see anything different. i mean with the hd2 there were roms that looked nothing like stock and ran just amazing but there is nothing for the expo.....why? why dont we have cool roms? why?

burro breath said:
ok so i just got the lg expo and i am coming from the htc hd2 and i must say i am very dissapointed that there are not more cooked roms for the expo. and to be honest im not really sure what exactly the dragon rom does? i got my expo already loaded with it and dont see anything different. i mean with the hd2 there were roms that looked nothing like stock and ran just amazing but there is nothing for the expo.....why? why dont we have cool roms? why?
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So you didn't run the stock rom at all?
Dragonstorm is a huge improvement and much more in line with what you'd expect from a new win mobile. LG's interface appealed to a few, but most were not fans. The stock rom was also an older build (with the start menu at the top).
If you visit lg-expo.com you can find a couple of sense based roms if that's more what you were looking for, but that's more htc-ish obviously and a few things aren't working quite right yet.
I think the quality of Dark's work is a large factor in the lack of other roms. It's got everything you need and you've got room to add whatever you want.
I also think theres a decent number of people are cooking "privately". I have reasons for not sharing any of my builds so far (time, apps I cooked, etc), but fear not, I do intend to eventually. In the meantime, I look forward to seeing your builds.

I too would like to see more choices in the expo rom section; But I do quite like darks rom.

But see what I don't understand is what is different? I never ran the stock rom but this dragon rom seriously feels stock to me. I mean the hd2 stock rom was better then this. I'm NOT saying it's a poor quality rom and I do want to be clear that this rom does work well. But I'm used to having loads of style and setup options and customized themes out the wazoo. So I seriously look forward to some sweet Roms in the future.

Dark's ROMs are built to improve speed, memory, GPS, etc. He lays out a great foundation for you to add apps. If you add to much in your ROM, it will gobble up all the phone mempry. These ROM are fast and free up phone memory. The stock ROM were bogged down by useless apps. If your looking for a more flashy ROM there is a touchflow ROM at lg-expo.com

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Dark's ROMs are built to improve speed, memory, GPS, etc. He lays out a great foundation for you to add apps. If you add to much in your ROM, it will gobble up all the phone mempry. These ROM are fast and free up phone memory. The stock ROM were bogged down by useless apps. If your looking for a more flashy ROM there is a touchflow ROM at lg-expo.com
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More stuff in rom does NOT equal more ram used up. more services and more stuff running equals more ram used. Just make sure to keep that clear yes ATT bloat does use up more ram but its not the fact that it uses more rom space its that it runs more programs.

burro breath said:
But see what I don't understand is what is different? I never ran the stock rom but this dragon rom seriously feels stock to me. I mean the hd2 stock rom was better then this. I'm NOT saying it's a poor quality rom and I do want to be clear that this rom does work well. But I'm used to having loads of style and setup options and customized themes out the wazoo. So I seriously look forward to some sweet Roms in the future.
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You're trying to compare a HTC device's ROM to an LG device's ROM. Obviously they are going to be different. You can't really compare the two, stock or otherwise especially when the stock HD2 comes with Sense and the eXpo stock has the LG Idles instead.
Like posted before, there is a Sense build posted over at lg-expo.com that has actually been downgraded back from 2.5 to 2.1. Sense was never designed to run on this device so it's pretty awesome that thekingvrock got it working cooked into a ROM. Personally I'm waiting for an Android build, but the Sense ROM is pretty nice.
You also have to keep in mind that the device itself is still relatively new since not many people were able to get it at launch with all of the delays. Plus not everyone that was able to get a device earlier on were devs or anyone that could even make a full rom. HTC devices have been out for years and the architecture is similar enough to have plenty of ROM options shortly after launch. It's going to take some time for more roms to come out for the eXpo, but it has the potential to be a pretty damn good device.

Well I'd love android on this [email protected] phone. I'm always looking here and on lg-expo.com

questions... newbie help

I recently ventured into flashing my evo and it was quite easy to root, and return to stock. thank you guys for all of the information posted or else i wouldnt have been able to do it..
My questions are about roms.. Which Rom is the best to use for performance and battery conservation..
So far I love HTC sense, but i'd like more battery and less lag out of it.
Rom's I have tried are:
Cynagen 6
Fresh 3.5
and another i can't remember the name but it was based off of android 2.1
All of these roms ATE my battery.. within an hour-hour and a half I was down to nothing, and It sat in my pocket the whole time, after running quadrant.
I did however notice, my phone would never go to sleep on either rom, not sure if i messed up with rooting it or not.
Any suggestions on what rom to use? I don't want to wait two years for the new sense ui and am curious about gingerbread.
The rom im looking into as of now is CM7-EX.v9, Mixed replies for problems/no problems in that thread though.
As i have said I am new to this, new to linux, etc.. any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. thank you and thanks or all of the great things on this forum.

Personally I'm using a customized version of MikFroyo 4.4. I'd have to say what he's done to speed up the system is amazing. A lot of tedious work. I turn it into a "senseless" version and remove an ishload of other apps and use ADW Launcher EX. All in all, it's the best ROM I've used. Battery life is pretty decent as well.

If you like sense then try myn's rls 5

As for roms, what do you need to have and what can you do without? AOSP roms still don't have full functionality but do have really sweet custom things added in that could make up for it.
As for speed, I have compared CM6.1 to the Sense rom I am using now and the Sense one is faster/smoother. It has Mikfroyo 4.4 as the base but is even faster than that one. Battery life is OK.
However, if you are not even getting 2hrs out of your battery then something is wrong. You need to investigate or change some settings because no matter what combo you are using should get at least half a day out of it.

1) Make sure you wipe everything before you flash (I'd recommend Calkulin's format all zip)
2) Let ROMs and their respective kernels "settle into your phone." This usually takes 2-3 days.
3) Pick ROMs that don't emphasize speed/power (CM) as much and more on user experience (Myn's)
4) Check my sig if none of these help (however they should )

You may also want to check and see if you are on the newest pri 1.90 if so you can try flashing back to pri1.77 this has helped some people with the 100% wake issue. Then I would suggest another kernel possibly. Good luck.
Oh and +1 for mikfroyo!

mikfroyo seems to be the way to go... someone told me that the battery life would be junk for a few days but i wasn't sure.. i was more worried about the awake time and the up time being the same, meaning something was keeping my battery on.
I like the sense, in fact i'd love to try the new sense for the htc desire on it to see how it is.. looks amazing.
bloatware and what not i can do without
i dont have 4g in my area
i'd like to have both cameras working(i use them alot with my daughter)
mostly its a weather/texting machine.. sound like i got the wrong phone lol.. but i love the advantages of it.

ruckus226 said:
I recently ventured into flashing my evo and it was quite easy to root, and return to stock. thank you guys for all of the information posted or else i wouldnt have been able to do it..
My questions are about roms.. Which Rom is the best to use for performance and battery conservation..
So far I love HTC sense, but i'd like more battery and less lag out of it.
Rom's I have tried are:
Cynagen 6
Fresh 3.5
and another i can't remember the name but it was based off of android 2.1
All of these roms ATE my battery.. within an hour-hour and a half I was down to nothing, and It sat in my pocket the whole time, after running quadrant.
I did however notice, my phone would never go to sleep on either rom, not sure if i messed up with rooting it or not.
Any suggestions on what rom to use? I don't want to wait two years for the new sense ui and am curious about gingerbread.
The rom im looking into as of now is CM7-EX.v9, Mixed replies for problems/no problems in that thread though.
As i have said I am new to this, new to linux, etc.. any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. thank you and thanks or all of the great things on this forum.
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i really like KINGSrom Ultra v5.0 also get the 4.3.2 the nosbc,nohavs,nouv version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763

[Q] Custom or Stock ROM

Once I am certain that my One X is fault free I want to Root and install a custom ROM on it. But I heard some feedback on another Thread that the custom ROM they were on was actually worse than the Stock ROM and they were going back to Stock.
What I would like is some feedback from current users of custom ROM's on the One X.
Whether you think it has improved your experience of using the One X?
What ROM you are on?
Is battery life improved?
What's not working?
Any other thoughts?
This is NOT a "What Custom ROM is best" thread, because that is down to individual preference. I just want to gauge whether I am gaining anything by Unlocking (voiding my warranty) and flashing custom.
Any thoughts apreciated....

I'm on Coredroid 2.0 for the last week and so far all is great, battery either better or the same, no issues, looks better than stock so I keep it.
I do have stock backup just in case but looks like I won't need it.
I'v been using Coredroid ROMs on my previous phones and always liked it so it was easy choice for me.

just to add i have flashed first Android Revolution and it blew me away. But now i am using LeeDroid and i highly recommend it due to the fact how well the Leedroid tweaks blend with the rom and how lite and fast it is for me that is.. Stock rom is good as well but with all the bloatware removed i am more than happy.
Battery life best always to judge over a few cycles but so far not bad my friend. I would go for Leedroid for now. and you have few nice mods in themes and apps to play with to.

Honestly many Roms are similar so bloatware removed, mods available. Just choose one you visually like

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Honestly many Roms are similar so bloatware removed, mods available. Just choose one you visually like
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have to admit CoreDroid looks nice and visually eye candy material...looking forward when we get some good themes going as well

Took the plunge and have flashed Android Revolution HD, as I used that on my Sensation.
Hope my phone doesn't break now!!

not too impressed with arhd battery life. tried insertcoin tht wasnt very good either for battery but both emntioned roms very speedy. i think the three stock rom is optimized for our network 3g consumption and the reason three didnt release the 1.28 update like the rest is because of the radio [posibly and the network handling protocols within the rom.
hmmm im back on stock for now removed bloatware with titanium much much better just want a theme.
ics browser is better and and so it the phone app in my opnion would love them to be flashable like on my sensation but still keep sense!