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[BENCHMARK] - LVSW vs. WM Black 1.1 vs. WMXL 0.2

Hi Everyone,
To give xda lovers an idea on the performance characteristics of the most popular 3 WM6 releases, i have just spent the last few hours doing a benchmark using SPB.
The test set up was:
1. OS Flash only
2. No additional Apps after fresh Hard Reset (except SPB Benchmark)
3. Imate Jasjam HT647
4. Main test completed only (no storage card or battery life)
The results speak for themselves (the highest achieving score is marked in red)
EDIT: I forgot the Vanilla ROM. Will update tomorrow, time for sleep, its 5am GMT+10. and only 5 hours sleep in the last 2.75 days.

Thanks,
I know everyone was looking for something like this. Now I know I choose the right OS flavor

Excellent work!!! the dark side wins! wow... maybe I should try it after all

I have a request for all rom cooker and publisher:
PLEASE, once relased a rom, write in the FIRST post:
All possible information about used memory at HR (RAM & Programs).
All reg tweaks included
All external programs installed
Other tweaks like video drivers etc.
All new issues resolved (like VoIP & others)
Someone has done it, someone not. Please post yours cooked rom in this way, so we all can do the right choice, in base at our necessity.
regards

Every time I think I have seen just how resourceful this group is someone comes out of the woodwork and does the yet another thing to surprise me.
(That and a friendly act of one-up-manship )

Many thanks i've been wondering if there was much difference in the speed of the ROMs, now i know. Does any one know how the WM6 ROMs compare to WM5 ROMs speeds?

Yeah - the results do speak for themselves. In my humble opinion, they demonstrate that there is almost nothing to choose between the ROMs in this test because the differences are really tiny. I wonder if you'd even get the same results if you ran the tests a second time?
Thanks for running the tests - interesting stuff!

Izzard-UK said:
Yeah - the results do speak for themselves. In my humble opinion, they demonstrate that there is almost nothing to choose between the ROMs in this test because the differences are really tiny. I wonder if you'd even get the same results if you ran the tests a second time?
Thanks for running the tests - interesting stuff!
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Sanity! A valuable exercise, but no meaningful difference. Is there en equivalent table for some WM5 ROMS? I keep hearing that WM6 is quicker.

The tables we saw for the different WM5 roms (especially comparing the stock TyTN rom with the south africa and AKU3.3 test roms) were VERY helpfull and the differences were quite noticeable (stability-wise aswell as speed), the WM6 comparisons are all pretty much the same, did the Vanilla rom get a mention at all??
Once we see a full Hermes WM6 rom (from iMate, HTC, Dopod et all) cooked for LVSW,Black or WMXL i predict we may see a noticeable difference from these current ones.
Good thread

What's really frackin kewl about this whole thing is
1. All the roms kick arse.
2. We have a WM6 ROM
3. Have multiple WM6 roms to choose from
4. Start @ 1. and repeat
Don't you just want to laugh! XDA LIVES and it is livin in WM6!

now i personally havent tried any of the wm6, as me and a few others are currently cooking a rom with PTT, i cant go without this feature so i am being patient... I have loaded a few up on my test phone, but havent fully given them a test drive yet... so im not putting anyone or any rom down with this comment, but its something you must realize... fastest doesnt necessarily mean its the most stable. and even if you find one that is stable with your apps doesnt mean its going to be stable for the next guy, its all trial and error

LSVW seems to be the one that runs the most stable without issue and pretty speedy
WM Black runs the fastest, but most unstable for me. Maybe it just the applications I installed having issues. I will works on it again tonight. (After 5 flash......)
WMXL 2.0 has really good features and runs pretty stable too, but somehow it runs slower than other two. A very good custom ROM.
Again, I am not a preofessional give a fair overview. This is just my experience with all 3.

Penske MB said:
LSVW seems to be the one that runs the most stable without issue and pretty speedy
WM Black runs the fastest, but most unstable for me. Maybe it just the applications I installed having issues. I will works on it again tonight. (After 5 flash......)
WMXL 2.0 has really good features and runs pretty stable too, but somehow it runs slower than other two. A very good custom ROM.
Again, I am not a preofessional give a fair overview. This is just my experience with all 3.
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i completely agree with you...i tried all three and lsvw seems to be the most stable

Same OS, the test results didn't show any significant different..........just a little bit.
It will be better and perfect test ,if u compare with WM5.
Thk

Hi guys,
the benchmarks I did last night for the 3 roms were done after a clean HR with no additional hacks patches, hence, as they were release by the chef's.
There isnt a significant difference in speed between the three but you will notice that WMXL has around 20mb of free RAM on a fresh HR as it loads more UI data etc in RAM to provide a faster response (this was checked with SKTOOLS).
It will be interesting to see how these roms compare against an official WM6 hermes ROM if one will ever be released.
Nonetheless, as these roms are cooked, expect to find bugs or undisclosed features. If bugs are found, the chefs will try and resolve them etc. Also remember that even though our HERMES are essentially the same, some ROMS wonts work on som devices, so you might have to see what works for you. luckily my JASJAM is compatible with all the roms posted so far so it is pretty universal.
Enjoy the contributions guys and if you can, please donate the xda-developers for the help it has iven you.

I agree that LSVW ROM is the most stable among 3 WM6 ROMs

hatori said:
Same OS, the test results didn't show any significant different..........just a little bit.
It will be better and perfect test ,if u compare with WM5.
Thk
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i will do this soon, give ma an hour....or so.....
mtty is getting a work out.
I will flash SA1.35 and an AKU3.3 ROM.
and then post the results in the first post.

Ping Jasjammin, did you do the WM6 v WM% benchmark? Be good to see how they compare on a fresh comparable install

Latest/Best ROM?

Which is the latest or best/most stable ROM to use at present?
Currently using Schaps_WM6Pro_WWE_4.20_Full.exe
Any advice welcome
cheers

I'm on Schaps 4.01 and I will change to 4.21 when released if the majority of bugs has been fixed since 4.20.

Any ideas when 4.21 is going to be released?

You know how to bring on the wrath of touchy members! You just wait for the onslaught of "there is no BEST" or "try them all and find out for yourself" oh so helpful answers.
Personally I've been through all the custels Blacks etc and ended up with Schaps 4.2 but have moved Radio from 1.54 to 1.48 to get better battery life, which seem to offer an improvement.

strangely enough, thats actually what I have as well
SPVM3100
Schaps 4.20
Radio 1.48

richard_g_johnston said:
strangely enough, thats actually what I have as well
SPVM3100
Schaps 4.20
Radio 1.48
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I'm on Schaps 4.01 still, tried 4.2 but wasn't quite as stable Imo. Using radio 1.48 too as that seems to give me the best reception.

I just updated my radio and it seems ok but I will be going back to work tomorrow and the reception in La. is not so good in port so I will be able to tell if 1.48 gets better reception. I'll get back in a couple of days after testing how far offshore each gets....

Actually Schaps 4.21 already released under Kaiser upgrading so dunno if its works well on TyTN or not . I'm using Schaps 4.01 currently I like it better than 4.20

All these new roms are makin my head spin!

So I visited the forum tonight for the first time in a month (feels like 3! ) and I find many new ROMs floating around. Interestingly there is a lot more use of touchflo and the cube - obviously some of the wrinkles have been ironed out since last time
Basically, I wanna try some new ROMs, and there are a couple that have caught my eye (Faster Again, K's Rom), but I would also like to hear if there are others that I should, in your opinion, not overlook. Positive/negative aspects would be appreciated as well.

I have tried the K's ROM V1.21. Very fast. Together with the TouchFLO and TouchCube from eFrost + Kona, it is the best for me so far.

i agree K's rom, is very fast and stable

K's also
Completly agre.
K's is the faster and most stable I ever flash to my hermes.

TNT rom is the best one for me.

I'm using Shamanix's Grass v2, and it's the best I've found (althought all this is personal opinion!) for speed vs functionality
The best advice would be to look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320370

I am 100% (well 99% as Internet Sharing fix is still under development ) happy with Shamanix 2.2 - stable & very fast. Altough I didn't tried new K's rom...

TNT or K's

I am using Pays 1.23 (Faster Again), and love the speed and 78 mb of storage.

I am using Pays Rom its very stable and FAST!

I vote Pay's as well. Tried a couple and this one seems to be most stable and quick without the bloat.

Wow thanks for all the quick responses guys! Looks like i've got 4 solid ones to try out.

I dont know about anyone else but i have taken a liking to Shaps 4.22

mmm i'll stick with TNT SE

It would prove a lot more useful if when you recommend a rom you state WHICH ONES YOU HAVE TRIED! Don't worry about hurting the cooks feelings!
I have tried Schaps 4.22 and now I am using K's 1.30. The first thing to impress me was that selecting new sms was pretty instantaneous where as with all the other Roms I've used to date I had to watch the busy symbol for a couple seconds.

mcorrie1121 said:
Wow thanks for all the quick responses guys! Looks like i've got 4 solid ones to try out.
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Welcome Back! TNT Special Edition or K's Full! Have fun flashing!

i've tried K's all of Shaps' and vp3g's, the Pandora Naked 6.....i feel like i've tried them all but I always find myself coming back to Shamanix's Grass 1.3. It's fast, light and stable. For me anyway it has the right combination of space and functionality. The Naked ROM was, well, a little too naked and some of the others came w/ a bit too much. 64MB of storage and over 31MB of program memory on a cold boot w/ the apps included in Grass v1.3 not to mention the speed and stability i've found make it my choice.
happy flashing!

Started off with K's and will try a few days, so far so good. A fully functional Touchflo is soooo nice

bchau said:
I have tried the K's ROM V1.21. Very fast. Together with the TouchFLO and TouchCube from eFrost + Kona, it is the best for me so far.
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Did you find that the touchflo/touchcube thing slowed down your phone? I want to try it out but i'm really enjoying how fast my phone is running with just k's and I don't want to bog it down. Thanks.

so ks is the best? ^^ ,
working touchflo?
btw.. full or lite?

WM6.1 vs. WM6 1.33 ROM

Looks like there is a lot of hype about the new WM6.1 ROM released by Kavana. However, there also seems to be a lot of issues with this new ROM, making me question whether to or not to wait. So I ask all of those who tried the new WM6.1 ROM from the WM6.0 1.33 ROM, is it worth it? I know that the 1.33 ROM was a huge improvement over the original T-Mobile ROM and was definetely a worthy upgrade. Is it the same with the WM6.1 ROM?

i like 6.1 so far. there's a couple of quarks with it... as is to be expected since there's no official release yet. my biggest thing was the fact that 6 leaked memory so bad. this one seems to be better at NOT doing that.

See last post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1997417#post1997417

The end of the Trinity ROM developement

With the introduction of the 6.5 ROM, we all know that this rom is to heavy for the trinity user. Realisiticly seen we are left with the 6.1. So. The question that are arises, is there anyone here that is able to cook a good, quality, stable rom that is clean, has touchflow extracted from 6.5 and with uptodate software, kinda like the tytnn rom or the flinx one.

are you blind? there are nice working and fast WM6.5 roms out there, i'm using one myself so... pointless topic.

thanx

jedai said:
are you blind? there are nice working and fast WM6.5 roms out there, i'm using one myself so... pointless topic.
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hello, can you indicate your favorite rom 6.5 for trinity? tank you!

vimafeje said:
hello, can you indicate your favorite rom 6.5 for trinity? tank you!
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I'm using this one and I'm quite happy with it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494727

joefso said:
With the introduction of the 6.5 ROM, we all know that this rom is to heavy for the trinity user. Realisiticly seen we are left with the 6.1. So. The question that are arises, is there anyone here that is able to cook a good, quality, stable rom that is clean, has touchflow extracted from 6.5 and with uptodate software, kinda like the tytnn rom or the flinx one.
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....really don't be so "blind"eheheheh!!!!my trinity is going very well wuth rubenalf ita tranlsation,jml today 5.5,tomtom7,videocalling,wifi going well,navisat working,google maps,Icontact,s2p music player,4 gyga microsd,diamond clock with animation -
- the only problem is my battery,after 2 years of really hard working now I'm really thinking about changing it!!

those 6.5 roms are slow on the trinity devices. Let's be honest. If you break the 6.5 down and strip it off, then it runs with poor memory. Conclusion? Trinity will not be able to take the 6.5 fully.

... pointless topic
Super Ultra Lite version of 28014. Fast, staible, lots of free space.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600957
I am agry with jedai ... pointless topic!

there is not much free memory, we can trim down any rom and make it as small as we want. But can we make 6.5 so that it has a lot of free memory? No.

little reflection
trinity is a very very good device!!!
but last period roms have recentely become beautiful and heavy for our little jewel.
Unfortunately, the development of this work no longer leads to great satisfaction as before
I thank all the heroes - cooks who have allowed us to see with interest our device for several years without tiring us.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!
r75

joefso said:
there is not much free memory, we can trim down any rom and make it as small as we want. But can we make 6.5 so that it has a lot of free memory? No.
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WM 6.5 23504 Lite
26.07MB Free Ram - While Running SPBMS 3.5, it settles in to 18-22MB
74.87MB Free Storage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580402
I don't know about you, but seems to me this is plenty of free RAM. It's even more than some of the older builds. There will be more updates to come still, just working out bugs on the latest builds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600957

yes I agree withbguys about 6.5 is too heavy to be honest and u can't run programs need a lot of memory or need a cpu preformane ...
I'm wondring about if this radio rom is spending battery 1.38.00.11 cuz I'm running out of battery so fast when I'm using internet and if there's a better one how I can change it cuz I tried too many times to change and didn't work

i just tried the 23504 Blue. It's slow. . . I keep on returning to finx latest rom with adjusted page pool settings. This rom is pretty fast, stable and has sufficient ram. If anybody is convinced trinity can handle 6.5 like that. Show me.

i also tried 6.5 and went back to 6.1.
Sure you can use 6.5 but it's slower, no matter how lite the version is. Start installing some stuff (specially recent versions which are also heavier) and everything feels even slower.
Nowadays no one produces software thinking about how it will run on our old trinity.
I'm even considering going back to 6.0 to see if i can get some more speed, don't think i'll be missing much from 6.1 anyway.
I'm currently on tomme45i's 6.1 which is a very good rom but it is also a bit slower (and buggier, imho) than finx's.

well, i'm using a 6.1 rom from tommie45, for me, it's the better rom i have ever try!!!
i dont know how, but his roms are the most stable and complete for trinity. it's my opinion!

i gave up on tommie45's rom and got back to finix 3.7.2.
It's not as pretty (b&w icons, uglier in general) and some functionality is less practical but... it feels much faster!
I recommend doing the same if the rom you are using feels slow.

Im using SuperSport WM6.5 build 23506 LITE and there hasn't been so much problems with it, but I can agree, 6.1 is faster, but the pro's in this rom is to many for me to use 6.1...
If I find the thread I'll put the link to it here.

Today at the phone store, they said they couldn't order the htc 3600 ( trinity ) anymore.......

PentaMedia said:
Im using SuperSport WM6.5 build 23506 LITE and there hasn't been so much problems with it, but I can agree, 6.1 is faster, but the pro's in this rom is to many for me to use 6.1...
If I find the thread I'll put the link to it here.
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wifi work? video call? bluetooth?

yeah it's a shame right? 3 years ago this phone was at the pinnacle of mobile communications, and today omg there's so many other things out there
however trinity and windows mobile is not dead! i've retired to a blackberry for my telephone call needs, but the trinity is now a dedicated GPS/dictionary. anyone else using it purely as a non-phone pda now?? and which rom??