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http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=601
Brilliant source to find out about the up and coming mobile os. But my question is will we able to run this OS on the XDA IIs, Blue angel, SPV... well woteva u call them fingy ma jigs PDA fingies.
I say this because ive heard rumours that the OS makes use of more sophisticated hardware than that already available on the XDA IIs.
Oh baring in mind im reletively new to XDA development (looking to develop some groovy stuff for the lil monster using the good ol' trusty .net framework SDK)...
yay!
Erm, read the thread at the top of the page about WM2005 and the XDA2s.
Also, this chap is worth a read. It's my fave thread of all time!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22813
I have a buddy, with a WM2005 build on a blue Angel (Siemens Sx66), so Yes it will work. I have tried and tried to aquire this but he will not share this.... :-(
Raptor said:
I have a buddy, with a WM2005 build on a blue Angel (Siemens Sx66), so Yes it will work. I have tried and tried to aquire this but he will not share this.... :-(
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he is soooo not your friend, i say, get him sooo drunk, wait til he passes out, spike his drink if u must, then do a rom dump and draw on his face with a marker pen while you wait.
give us his address raptor and i guarentee well have the rom
Raptor, I think he's bullshitting you. If not, ask to see his phone for a second, and slip in and SD Card with the Invisible Rom dumper.
good ideas guys... he is serious though, I have seen it (with tight scrutiny)... he works for a wireless service provider that shall rename nameless. I used to work there as well so I know the consequenses he's facing ......
Still good ideas, still might have to try them.
Raptor
Do it!! I'm sure he can afford to take one for the team
Are you sure he hasn't just got the generic PPC WM2005, 'cos we really need the BA specific WM2005 (if I understand correctly)?
Are you sure he hasn't just got the generic PPC WM2005
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Educate Me, what's the difference and how would I tell?
Raptor
Don't worry about his question, Raptor, you already answered it correctly above. He just wasn't reading/paying attention.
Raptor, if you could get us a dump of this guy's rom, you would be forever famous, and we would all be very much in your debt.
Read here as to how:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22861
Simply follow the instructions, and then insert the SD Card into his device, and BAM, rom dumped, secretly and invisibly. THen, take the SD Card back out, switch it to LOCKED, and then give us the .bin file it created, and we will all have WM2005 for our Blue Angels.
See if our good freind Raptor was some how able to obtain this lovely lil .bin file (the ROM), of the wonderful WM2005, hmm wouldnt that upset Mr.Gates in sum way? (Not that im really bothered or anything, cos im all for sharing, because remember, sharing is always caring ).
But cheers for the reassurance Mr.Raptor much appreciated, gna seek means of finding me self a copy (some nerd, some where must have a copy which he will surely borrow me, willingly or unwillingly... muhahahaha)
This reminds me of a thread with Mr happy which came to no avail
Well I do not want to get anyone's hopes of, the ideas to get him drunk and "borrow" his device were merely that, funny ideas. My message was mainly to inform all that contrary to what I have heard, it is working on the BA successfully. I will not be getting this build (unofficailly) from him as I respect his position @ the company and it would put him, his position, and the company @ legal risk.
Raptor
Damn. Oh well. I would, just in retaliation for these companies not offering us updates just to steal more money from us, and then lying about it.
Honestly, I have no respect for companies that provide sub-standard support for their products.
unless there's carrier branding, they would never know where it came from.
if not do it for your country
he said it was the SX66, so who sells that?? Cingular!!
His profile says he uses Bell Mobility South.
that's the same company
I SO knew that .
Hello All,
I'm willing to dedicate the time and effort to develop applications and maybe create a Free CID Unlocker. I'm in 3rd Year I.T & Business Management, I've completed a course in Microsoft Visual Basic. I'm interested in learning more about Windows Mobile 5/6 to further develop applications based on people's needs. I don't want to promise anything but I'm willing to put in all efforts if someone can guide me in the right way. I'm interested in developing applications, yes i'm a newbie to applications development but not a newbie to smartphone/pocket pc phones. I've owned an I-Mate Jam and currently own the HTC s621/Dash/Excalibur. I'd love to develop applications and most of all find a way to CID Unlock the excalibur. If someone who has experience in this field can help me or guide me to the right guides to pursue applications development for Windows Mobile/Pocket Pc, I'd really appreciate it. 2 Members are ready to donate, they are r0p3 and egosumpaul. i don't mind co-working with a group of people to develop a free CID unlocker and maybe applications. Yes, i know nothing in terms of applications development but everyone at one point don't know anything as well. There's always a start somewhere and I want to start now as I'm also going to be specializing in Telecommunications & Networking.
I have all resources, programs-wise and all windows mobile 6 ROMS. My device is application unlocked with security prompt off. Incase I do need programming software, i can get that as well, so no worries in the department of software, just need the guidance to do this, people start with no knowledge and with a few helping hands, we all can get somewhere. I see many people ask for FREE CID/SIM unlocking solution for the HTC Excalibur.
OFFER: 20 $
TESTING: I'm ready to test
SUPPORT: 2 Members (Egosumpaul & r0p3 - hats off to their determination) as of now, one willing to pay 20 $ and another one willing to pay 40 $ i think. total - 20 + 20 + 40 = 80 $
who's with me? please don't back off, i'd love to see support through this, i have hope - i hope we can get somewhere, if IMEI can do it, so can we - they are people too, sure they might be professionals but at one point they were like us, i don't mean to talk highly of me or anyone nor am i putting them down - i just don't want to pay 38 $ for CID Unlocking, I want to make a FREE CID Unlocking Solution for everyone. guide me in the right track and i'll try my best to do it. if someone's willing to make it and already are experienced, then please do so
Thanks in advance for everyone's support !
Co nfirm my 20...
20 Views & 1 Reply? C'mon I honestly thought i'd see more positivity in this thread. Everyone wants a Free CID/SIM Unlocker but if we don't work together, It's not going to be easy. If someone has any knowledge on this topic, please feel free to post, you don't have to make a donation, just enlighten me atleast. I have hope, even if i can't do it, i'll try and get somewhere - if not me, someone else.
Thanks for the support, egosumpaul - i noticed you linked my thread on gsm-forum as well. i appreciate it.
hmm..i don't think anyone's even interested, i'm gonna wait till tommorow and see - i hope to see some responses.
I agree with you lukybandit.
I made a poll here and am very disappointed about the result.
Seems most of the people are not willing to pay or even help.
Maybe they think "I don't care - somebody will do it - don't bother about it"
They don't see the hard work and time to crawl through Assembler code of IPL/SPL and the risk to completely break the device when patching it the wrong way.
Also see here for background
As for your idea of a CID unlock:
I think the better way would be a patched IPL/SPL that doesn't check for CID/VendorID and .nbh signing because it has more value since you can also flash cooked/modified ROMs.
Like pof did it with his USPL here for the HTC Touch for example (I donated 30$ for his work btw.)
SIM unlock would be another hard way to crack the encryption.
Good luck lukybandit that people wake up and support you!!!
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I agree with you lukybandit.
I made a poll here and am very disappointed about the result.
Seems most of the people are not willing to pay or even help.
Maybe they think "I don't care - somebody will do it - don't bother about it"
They don't see the hard work and time to crawl through Assembler code of IPL/SPL and the risk to completely break the device when patching it the wrong way.
Also see here for background
As for your idea of a CID unlock:
I think the better way would be a patched IPL/SPL that doesn't check for CID/VendorID and .nbh signing because it has more value since you can also flash cooked/modified ROMs.
Like pof did it with his USPL here for the HTC Touch for example (I donated 30$ for his work btw.)
SIM unlock would be another hard way to crack the encryption.
Good luck lukybandit that people wake up and support you!!!
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Thanks for the support r0p3, and yeah... maype pof would like to take the challenge, he did a great job with the Touch.
I'm very interested in the subject of how these bootloaders work and the whole CID lock process, but know almost nothing about it. I'm curious but don't want to brick my device too much, as I already partially bricked it by playing with the registry... took a long time to hard reset it. I'd like to help but don't really know where to begin other than to say that we need complete ROM dumps from a CID locked device and a CID unlocked device... the by comparing them, we can see whats changed.
I'm just quickly replying to build interest and support for this cause - egosumpaul, mixx, r0p3 and me are willing to donate 20 $ for the cause so let's see more interest in this subject. c'mon now, almost everybody have their free SIM & CID unlockers, what about us? let's do something about it. i'm just going to have lunch and come back then post a detailed reply.
So Far, 4 Donors Ready - Let's See Some More - Cmon !
r0p3 said:
I agree with you lukybandit.
I made a poll here and am very disappointed about the result.
Seems most of the people are not willing to pay or even help.
Maybe they think "I don't care - somebody will do it - don't bother about it"
They don't see the hard work and time to crawl through Assembler code of IPL/SPL and the risk to completely break the device when patching it the wrong way.
Also see here for background
As for your idea of a CID unlock:
I think the better way would be a patched IPL/SPL that doesn't check for CID/VendorID and .nbh signing because it has more value since you can also flash cooked/modified ROMs.
Like pof did it with his USPL here for the HTC Touch for example (I donated 30$ for his work btw.)
SIM unlock would be another hard way to crack the encryption.
Good luck lukybandit that people wake up and support you!!!
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Hello r0p3,
i really appreciate your efforts and the interest in the subject. I'm glad you're willing to donate and work for the cause. I've seen your threads and it's sad that people aren't really motivated to donate and help but let's not loose hope. We're 4 but hopefully soon we will have the support we need. For now, let's focus on what we can do to help. I've pm'ed you, check your pm. Thanks for the support once again.
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I'm very interested in the subject of how these bootloaders work and the whole CID lock process, but know almost nothing about it. I'm curious but don't want to brick my device too much, as I already partially bricked it by playing with the registry... took a long time to hard reset it. I'd like to help but don't really know where to begin other than to say that we need complete ROM dumps from a CID locked device and a CID unlocked device... the by comparing them, we can see whats changed.
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hey uccellino, i never thought about that one but a smart thought, I'm willing to dump my ROM - if anyone could guide me in the right way as to how to do it, I'll do it right away then hopefully we can get a member to dump his unlocked ROM. also, i know nothing about the subject too but that's how we learn, we always start somewhere so atleast we're at a better stage - the fact that we're willing to learn, put in the time and efforts - trust me, i don't want to brick my device either but i'll try my best and help. Thanks once again for the support.
UPDATE:
ok, i was playing around with HTC Trinity SIM_CID Unlocker downloadble at this link
http://rapidshare.com/files/20880414/HTC_Trinity_SIM_CID_Unlock_v1.zip
made by pof last night and even though i really didn't get anywhere, i was able to run the Unlocker on my device. It did not SIM or CID Unlock the device but here are the list of errors i got:
Couldn't list locked facilities
Couldn't reset facility01
Couldn't reset facility02
Couldn't reset facility04
Couldn't reset facility08
Couldn't reset facility10
Couldn't reset facility16
Couldn't reset facility32
Couldn't get CID1
Couldn't set SuperCID1
Couldn't get CID2
Couldn't set SuperCID2
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Final Result: Device SIM/Network lock removed and set to SuperCID
now i tried upgrading the rom image to WM6 after i did that and unfortunately i get the [ERROR 294] Invalid Vendor ID.
so it's clear that it did not work but here's the deal
the program did run so we could maybe use the same program layout, dump the rom's of locked and unlocked devices, compare them and maybe get somewhere.
now i'll try and get in touch with pof - the creator of this program for some help since he is an experienced guy and know's what he's doing. so the program runs but does not execute the code because obviously the code is different, we're looking to break in the code so for example:
Couldn't reset facility01
Couldn't reset facility02
Couldn't reset facility04
Couldn't reset facility08
Couldn't reset facility10
Couldn't reset facility16
Couldn't reset facility32
we can see that the program tries to reset facilities by doubling the facility number that is 01 to 02 to 04 etc. now i will have a look at r0p3's thread "SSPL possible for excalibur" and see if i can get some information there. I will upload the HTC Trinity SIM/CID Unlocker for those willing to look into this into more detail. if someone can tell me what exactly i'm looking for, i'm willing to go into the software specifics. i know it's not much but atleast we know the program works on our device, just does not break the code. I will also provide links to the WM6 ROM ImageS and to the ROM Bootloader update.
1) HTC Russian WM6 ROM
- http://rapidshare.com/files/42890131....1_4.1.13..exe
2) T-MOBILE WWE WM6 ROM
- http://rapidshare.com/files/28455965/RUU_Excalibur_TMO_US_1.22.531.4_4.1.13.34_02.79.90_Ship.exe
3) ROM Bootloader update
- ftp://xda:[email protected]
4) OLD ROM IMAGE
ftp://xda:[email protected]_WWE_1.11.405.4_4.1.13.28_02.63.90_Ship.exe
5) Application Unlock (Just Incase)
- ftp://xda:[email protected]
6) IMEI DASH V2 Unlocker
- http://www.imei-check.co.uk/DASHv2Unlock.zip
7) Mobile Registry Editor (Could Prove Handy)
- http://www.breaksoft.com/Download/MR...stryEditor.zip
alright, i've included all links to potential requirements. if there's anything else - please let me know. I'm also copying from the previous thread that is
SSPL possible for Excalibur
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308564
please refer for background purposes.
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Originally Posted by pof
SSPL has an hermes or trinity IPL embedded, that won't work on excalibur. The hermes SSPL works on breeze because breeze & hermes IPLs are quite the same, but compare them with an excalibur IPL and you'll see what i mean.
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You can probably replace the resource on the exe with an excalibur IPL, or try to contact Des for help with SSPL.
So if I understand right I "only" would have to replace the Hermes IPL-Data with Excalibur IPL-Data in this SSPL and chances are good that it works.
So the SPL generated in RAM can be the same?
- r0p3
Of course, you must also patch it to bypass nbh signature checks... This was the "Holy Grail" achieved first by Des.
- Sleuth255
Yes I have read about this - the SSPL.exe generates a (patched) SPL in RAM so far I understand - and this SPL (generating code) can remain the same, am I right?
- r0p3
You need to patch ipl so it doesn`t hang on boot. we didn`t do it with breeze as it is the same as hermes. In spl you need to patch the cid check and nbh check function. Also, it`s omap, not samsung - the addresses are different
- sp3dev
ok that's the important posts from the thread.
hmm - I will see what I can figure out even though my programming skills are a little bit rusty...so all in all, that's all the information i thought we needed for now, if there's anything else i can add, please notify me. like i said i'm willing to put in the efforts and time involved in this project. let's do something about this as we are a big community and it disappoints me to see so many people not come forward, support or donate for the cause.
sorry about the long post. hope to see a free cid and sim unlock solution, that's all. Good Luck !
p.s: r0p3, can you please upload your ROM dump image? thanks.
Willing To Donate Information
I have a T-Mobile Dash that I've had SIM/CID unlocked, and I'm willing to donate and information you need. I'm a total nub when it comes to WinMo Firmware hacking, and I really don't know much about modern Smartphone designs (got out of PDAs a while back, then they took a quantum leap on me, and it's a whole new vocabulary). I have next to no programming experience, and I'm running Mac OS X, but I'm willing to give you ROM dumps and the like, if you need them.
I'd donate money, but I'm having enough trouble paying for my schooling and books and trying to find a new job. Sorry
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I have a T-Mobile Dash that I've had SIM/CID unlocked, and I'm willing to donate and information you need. I'm a total nub when it comes to WinMo Firmware hacking, and I really don't know much about modern Smartphone designs (got out of PDAs a while back, then they took a quantum leap on me, and it's a whole new vocabulary). I have next to no programming experience, and I'm running Mac OS X, but I'm willing to give you ROM dumps and the like, if you need them.
I'd donate money, but I'm having enough trouble paying for my schooling and books and trying to find a new job. Sorry
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perfect, thanks a lot. i'll try and find someone who can ask you to go through the proper steps required to extract a rom. it's ok - i understand, i'm going through the same but lol i want windows mobile 6 on my phone and at the same time help the community by trying to get the proper support to develop a free sim & cid unlocker. thanks in advance. i can provide a locked rom, no problem - i'm just unaware as to how to extract a rom, i'm going out for a bit but when i come back, i'll do some research and find out how to extract roms.
thanks once again, the support is slow but it's getting there, alright
i'm very disappointed at the response, 401 views and only 12 replies? you've got to be kidding me, this is pathetic ! i'm lost for words, say even if i take 300 views instead of 401 views, that's almost 300 people that's seen this thread and only 12 replies, what kind of support or response is this? you guys want a free CID/SIM but don't want to donate or support, forget donation - even a little bit of help...say ok i'll cut it down to 100 people viewed my thread, out of those 100 people, say only 10 people have knowledge on this subject - still only 12 replies which the majority is me. this is sad, i honestly can't believe the fact that i've barely gotten support for the right cause. i'm still willing to help and do whatever it takes, can people please start supporting this thread so we can get out there and do the dirty work to develop a free unlocking solution, please. thanks in advance
p.s: you don't have to donate, it's not necessary but just some technical support or guidance could really help us. why am i wasting my time, why'd i waste my time and wrote that update with links if noone really is ready to help me and the other members that are willing to do this? honestly, thanks to those who have shown interest in this cause and for your generous offer for donation.
lukybandit said:
... I'm willing to dump my ROM - if anyone could guide me in the right way as to how to do it, I'll do it right away then hopefully we can get a member to dump his unlocked ROM....
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Actually the idea is from pof (thanks ), who wrote this:
Excalibur uses Samsung OneNAND chip, itsme developed a tool to access the non-OS sections of the chip, ie: where the CID area is stored.
The simlock data is stored on the first 0x20000 bytes of the gsmsection.
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For those interested:
OneNAND the chip
bkondisk.zip a tool to read off data -
More info on using this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285003&highlight=bkondisk (thanks itsme )
So can someone who has unlocked their device please dump an image?
I will admit to being a viewer, keenly interested in the success of this tool, but honestly I am a follower. I had a Wizard and hacked the snot out of it, how? Using stuff off this wonderful forum. I didn't develop anything and I followed everything I read step by step because otherwise I have absolutely no idea what I am doing with PDA's, XDA's, Smartphones and all the other stuff. Unfortunitely I am also broke at the moment. That could change and if it does I would be willing to donate as this forum has always provided wonderful wonderful advise for me in more then one type of phone, operating system, etc. I never wrote anything in this thread before because I don't know what I have to offer. I don't have time, money, or knowledge. Guess you could say I am a bottom feeder. Not that I don't try. But I felt guilty about reading this thread without saying anything given your comments about people not supporting but are viewing. This could be a large part of the reason.
Anyway, there is my two cents. Sorry.
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More info on using this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285003&highlight=bkondisk (thanks itsme )
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that's the thread I tried at that time to get a ROM dumped and flash it back.
But with that OS-image I was not able to extract the files out of it.
Got the files at that time only with imgfs-Tools and the "-nosplit" Option
So can someone who has unlocked their device please dump an image?
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Ok - here is the dump of IPL/SPL/GSM I had done with bkondisk - I think those are exactly what we need to explore and patch for a CID/SIM unlock
also have a look in the WIKI here
lukybandit said:
I have all resources, programs-wise and all windows mobile 6 ROMS.
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So what's the beg for donations for? Most of us here work on this stuff and give back to the community because we gain the knowledge that others share with us. Pardon me if I come off all high and mighty but you're really in the wrong forums. XDA developers have been around a VERY long time and it survived by what services are provided for free. Only recently has it been infiltrated by nubes who aren't interested in development and just want a free ROM or a free unlock solution. If people feel like donating to help the cause, give it to XDA Developers to help defray the hosting costs. Especially the additional influx by people just downloading ROMS and utilities. And if you use any of the tools developed by others, shouldn't they receive a substantial part of your donations?
You also realize, that most of the people begging for the free unlocking service are too cheap to pay for what has existed for a long time. I paid my 40 bucks the day my Dash arrived and have been enjoying throwing ROMS on it since. So those of us that already paid, we are not interested. Those who didn't are looking for a FREE solution. Yours isn't free. You want 20 bucks for the dream of a solution. I'm pretty sure you won't be able to come up with it, personally. Prove me wrong, please. But do it for free.
-Mc
Donations for...
McHale said:
So what's the beg for donations for? Most of us here work on this stuff and give back to the community because we gain the knowledge that others share with us. Pardon me if I come off all high and mighty but you're really in the wrong forums. XDA developers have been around a VERY long time and it survived by what services are provided for free. Only recently has it been infiltrated by nubes who aren't interested in development and just want a free ROM or a free unlock solution. If people feel like donating to help the cause, give it to XDA Developers to help defray the hosting costs. Especially the additional influx by people just downloading ROMS and utilities. And if you use any of the tools developed by others, shouldn't they receive a substantial part of your donations?
You also realize, that most of the people begging for the free unlocking service are too cheap to pay for what has existed for a long time. I paid my 40 bucks the day my Dash arrived and have been enjoying throwing ROMS on it since. So those of us that already paid, we are not interested. Those who didn't are looking for a FREE solution. Yours isn't free. You want 20 bucks for the dream of a solution. I'm pretty sure you won't be able to come up with it, personally. Prove me wrong, please. But do it for free.
-Mc
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I´m willing to donate to the guy who makes the effort (since time is a scarce good...), or to the forum, if the developer suggests that. Anyway, I still prefer not to pay to imeicheck -for example- but motivate the guys to free the app. and make it available to everybody.
No sin that, right?
egosumpaul said:
I´m willing to donate to the guy who makes the effort (since time is a scarce good...), or to the forum, if the developer suggests that. Anyway, I still prefer not to pay to imeicheck -for example- but motivate the guys to free the app. and make it available to everybody.
No sin that, right?
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Not that it's a sin, but we see someone come along every once in a while "borrow" the tools that are made available (for free) on this site and use them to come up with a utility or a tool that they try to make money on.
Look at all the programs that take the reg patches we discover and put a front end on it and sell it for 30 bucks? It makes people no longer want to support the community because someone else makes money from it.
So in essence, it slowly destroys the community.
Now, he has a beautiful plan. If everyone on here pays him 20 bucks to help motivate him and he can't fulfill your dream, no harm no foul. Your 20 bucks didn't go for a guarentee.
Or, you could pay IMEI-CHECK 40 bucks and it will be onlocked... GUARENTEED.
I am not associated with IMEI-CHECK in any way. But if they offer a service that nobody else offers, they can charge whatever they want. 40 bucks isn't bad. Besides, they didn't beg anyone for money to figure things out and they didn't use anyone else's tools.
-Mc
Well hello.
First off i want to appologise for my bad english and for not knowing so much about how things work around windows mobile upgrading. Ive tried to read as much as possible but some things i just dont get.
The issue is about a Samsung SGH-i320 wich i dont know is a PPC or a Smartphone or if it belongs between any other smartphone fammily. Because of the BlackJack or SGH-i600U being out, the price on the i320 has sunken to an affordable price. So i bought one and im happy!... Well as happy as i can get for 212,74 EUR...
What ive read there is a WM6 upgrade out for the i600 somewhere ?
But can i theoreticly cook or make a ROM from that for my i320? Cuz what i understand the only difference in hardware is the cam and wifi abilities...
Or is there like a ROM that is universal for some mobiles/smartphone familys?
Thx for ur patience and time...
Welcome to the forum!
No need to apologize, your English is fine. And learning new things about our phones is why we are all here.
Your phone is a 'Smartphone'. It is very simple to tell the difference between a smartphone and pocket pc: smartphone does not have a touch screen but pocket pc does.
Note that 'Smatrtphone' is both the name of the Microsoft platform that runs your phone and a general term for phones that can do more than just calls and simple java applets.
Now there is no and can not be a 'universal' ROM for windows mobile devices because even devices with identical hardware may have different memory mapping or bootloader.
It is theoretically possible to make ROM for one device from a device that is close to it but we do not have cooking tools for Samsung phones here.
This forum is mainly about HTC made devices.
That said I am fairly sure someone somewhere is working on i320 so keep searching.
Please do not try to upgrade directly with the i600 ROM. You will kill your phone.
Thank u very much for ur perfect answer
U even got me to understand u...
Ok so trying to upgrade my phone with the i600 ROM is a extremly bad idea eh? hehe
Well i just have to keep my eyes open and see if something happens...
Thank u so much Now i have to take care of my kids.
The answer was not fully perfect; we simply can assume no WM6 version will ever be available for this phone ?
Hey guys,
I just bought the HTC 8525 (old hardware I know), but it's a start considering this is my first PDA. Anyway, it is currently running Windows Mobile 5, and I would like to upgrade to WM6, because I am finding this quite difficult, for numerous reasons. Number 1, I basically have no idea how to do this, and number two the links that I have found that supposedly have the update for my phone are broken.
To make things clear, I am not asking for a direct answer. I am asking for the resources to learn how to update to WM6 if possible.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Seems like no one is interested or did you get answers elsewhere. I have same question.
I am not familair with that hardware but my staring point would be the XDA-Wiki, if that fails then google and hopefully another forum, maybe even another language...
Good luck
OK, so I can't load hardspl v7 into my spv m3100, but I do now know that the bootloader is spl 1.40 olipro.
Is this OK to load WM6, and do I need to watch for CID clashes.
Am I able to use the official HTC wm6 rom, or do I need to use a customised version?
I'd appreciate some guidance, as I don't want to brick my machine!
I am now using activesync 4.5 on a windows pc.
Many thanks,
Robert
Hi,
All I do on my spv m3100 is download the version that i want (schapps, pdaviet etc), connect my spv to the pc and sync it (backing up any crucial data) and then double click the ruu wrapper - the program then asks you if you want to auto detect which version of bootloader you want to use which on mine it is usually hard spl, then the program takes over and hey prsto 5 minutes later I'm loading my programs back onto my newly flashed spv ! I have found that this is the best way for me - the mods will be able to give more info but I took the plunge 20 months ago and must have flashed my device with a new rom about once a week!
Take Care,
Seriously
I'm seriously wondering if they can incorporate a noob rule called the don't open new threads without searching RULE . that would seriously help!
revrob said:
OK, so I can't load hardspl v7 into my spv m3100, but I do now know that the bootloader is spl 1.40 olipro.
Is this OK to load WM6, and do I need to watch for CID clashes.
Am I able to use the official HTC wm6 rom, or do I need to use a customised version?
I'd appreciate some guidance, as I don't want to brick my machine!
I am now using activesync 4.5 on a windows pc.
Many thanks,
Robert
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Hey bro, if you have the oli pro spl on your device then loading a origenal rom with spl integrated is not a good idea. Look for the official wm6 rom only without spl, radio or extended. Here is a link to the official rom without radio, spl or extended. http://rapidshare.com/files/63200881/RUU_signed.nbh You will also need the ruuwrapper.exe file to install this rom on your hermes wich you can find in any custom rom here on xda under the hermes thread. Oh dont mind these neigh sayers bashing the noobs, some ppl here are still nice enough to help you and dont think they are the flashing gods.
@joshkoss if you hate the fact he is asking something that has been asked a million times, why bother posting just to moan? Is that not just adding to the spam of the board.
@revrob Why exactly can you not install hard splv7, have you cid unlocked your device first using this unlocker ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a.zip
If you havent you wont be able to install hardspl or anything else
extract and run the program and then attempt to install hardspl v7. If you are successful then you will be able to install any other rom. Even an official rom with the minimum amount of risk
Without Hardspl installed you can only install your providers rom e.g. Oranges' rom update. With Hardspl installed you can install any hermes rom regardless of what version of hermes it was designed for
Hope that helps
It's sounds like you've used Pof's unlocker, is that why you have HardSPL 1.40?
There should be no reason why you can't update it to HardSPL 2.10. I can't remember if 1.40 has the same features when it doesn't allow itself to be overwritten (and can't be arsed to check as that's your job.
It's as Scousemartin states plus you need to do a little more reading but if you want to minimise bricking your phone use a MicrsoSD card, you should be fine doing it that way and 1.40 but try to install 2.10.
scousemartin said:
@joshkoss if you hate the fact he is asking something that has been asked a million times, why bother posting just to moan? Is that not just adding to the spam of the board.
@revrob Why exactly can you not install hard splv7, have you cid unlocked your device first using this unlocker ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a.zip
If you havent you wont be able to install hardspl or anything else
extract and run the program and then attempt to install hardspl v7. If you are successful then you will be able to install any other rom. Even an official rom with the minimum amount of risk
Without Hardspl installed you can only install your providers rom e.g. Oranges' rom update. With Hardspl installed you can install any hermes rom regardless of what version of hermes it was designed for
Hope that helps
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Point accepted!! Sorry, it just peeves me off.. Guess i need to find some other way to vent my frustrations then adding to the frustrations of others..
I'm sorry JoshKoss but I have to agree with Scousemartin, while I may be a newbie here I do spend alot of time on other forums and happen to be a moderator on some. I must say it does erk me a little when I see negative posts like that. We were all newbies with silly questions at some point and IMHO I think the only silly question is the one that people don't ask.
At the very least you could be more positive in your approach by suggesting use of the search feature and suggesting a couple of search links. Often a search feature wont find the answer your after if you don't know exactly what to look for in the first place. Also I think alot of people when it comes to flashing are affraid of bricking their device and a little bit of positive help is all they need or just a little push in the right direction.
I must say though in some cases I agree that sometimes the questions may be a little too simple and there is a billion threads already present on the topic so it may get frustrating. If you really feel it's been said too much and posted to death may I suggest two things.
1. Simply just point them to a current thread on the topic and say Howdy or Welcome while your at it. Make folks welcome you never know what they too might have to sahre later on down the track. Give them too many negitives straight off and they will prolly just leave this forum. This is currently a fantastic forum but it is only so because of the members in it !
2. The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything". If you feel it's a pointless thread why vailidate it with a comment even, just move on and give it no more thought.
I hope I haven't upset you or anyone else for that matter with my opinion as it's only mine. But I feel the world in general spends too much time on negative, I try to always look for a way to make any input I give to be positive. What goes round, comes round, be nice, stay happy and always remember it's more fun to make love than it is to make war.
geez what a load of dribble from a newbie ROLF..
Apologies for the angst I caused some people last night.
I know how it feels, as I post on other forums in totally unrelated areas - and sometimes newbie questions can frustrate .......
However, I did manage to flash Schaps 4.31 WM6 onto my spv m3100, and all seems to be OK - much better than WM5
I still haven't got HardSPL 7 onto the machine yet, but I will try again. I had followed MrVanx's guide to the letter, but some people report success if they tick a box which he doesn't mention - so I'll try that later on today.
Many thanks,
Robert
You can flash hard spl via the sd card method. Its posted on the "hard SPL or how not to brick your Hermes" thread. Page 116. All links to softwares needed as well as instructions there.
Cheers...
You can also use SSPL which also allows you to flash anything. You just execute from SD card.
NP Revrob, no angst here with anyone. I was replying to what was said but not really at the person who made the comment but more just in general really. It can be frustrating for both senior members and newbies alike. I just like to always get folks working/talking with a positive aspect to things as there is more than enough things to bring us down in this day and age.
"it's all good"
Dude
Dalork said:
I'm sorry JoshKoss but I have to agree with Scousemartin, while I may be a newbie here I do spend alot of time on other forums and happen to be a moderator on some. I must say it does erk me a little when I see negative posts like that. We were all newbies with silly questions at some point and IMHO I think the only silly question is the one that people don't ask.
At the very least you could be more positive in your approach by suggesting use of the search feature and suggesting a couple of search links. Often a search feature wont find the answer your after if you don't know exactly what to look for in the first place. Also I think alot of people when it comes to flashing are affraid of bricking their device and a little bit of positive help is all they need or just a little push in the right direction.
I must say though in some cases I agree that sometimes the questions may be a little too simple and there is a billion threads already present on the topic so it may get frustrating. If you really feel it's been said too much and posted to death may I suggest two things.
1. Simply just point them to a current thread on the topic and say Howdy or Welcome while your at it. Make folks welcome you never know what they too might have to sahre later on down the track. Give them too many negitives straight off and they will prolly just leave this forum. This is currently a fantastic forum but it is only so because of the members in it !
2. The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything". If you feel it's a pointless thread why vailidate it with a comment even, just move on and give it no more thought.
I hope I haven't upset you or anyone else for that matter with my opinion as it's only mine. But I feel the world in general spends too much time on negative, I try to always look for a way to make any input I give to be positive. What goes round, comes round, be nice, stay happy and always remember it's more fun to make love than it is to make war.
geez what a load of dribble from a newbie ROLF..
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Dude, I agree with you totally! don't worry about it, I really appreciate your words.. I've had a rough couple days and totally took it out on a noob! Sorry and Peace out man!
revrob said:
Apologies for the angst I caused some people last night.
I know how it feels, as I post on other forums in totally unrelated areas - and sometimes newbie questions can frustrate .......
However, I did manage to flash Schaps 4.31 WM6 onto my spv m3100, and all seems to be OK - much better than WM5
I still haven't got HardSPL 7 onto the machine yet, but I will try again. I had followed MrVanx's guide to the letter, but some people report success if they tick a box which he doesn't mention - so I'll try that later on today.
Many thanks,
Robert
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It aint you that caused it man, I'm the harborer of frustrations don't worry about it, you asked a valid question and I'm the one that rained on the parade!! Take it easy and good luck
And on your question, I've had good luck with flashing from SD card, Check the wiki in my first link for flashing from your SD card and give it a go!
Joshkoss,
hey no biggie and certainly no need for sorries either, like I said it wasn't really intended to be directed at you personally just was rasing a point of my own opinion. On the other hand I'm sorry to hear things haven't been good for you. I do hope that whatever is giving or gave you a rough time is either sorted out or start to improve for you as quick as possible. Cheer up and don't let things bring you down my friend, life is to be lived and enjoyed. lol I must sound so weird but hey I like to wish everyone well. SMILE
Don't ask me how or why, but I downloaded HardSPL v7 from a different mirror to the one I had been using previously (and I'm sorry I can't remember which one - I've been doing much downloading of files yesterday and today!), and flashed it on Windows XP, and it worked!!! - so that is now safely installed as well.
Now to upgrade the Radio ROM .......
Revrob, be careful when doing this, would REALLY suggest using the sd card method as there is less chance of little "accidents". The radio rom is the part of the Hermes MOST LIKELY TO BRICK IT... Any interruptions can corrupt the memory area making it impossible to reflash. You WILL have a PERMANENT BRICK (OS will work but no Phone functionality so technically a brick). In this case, less flashing=longer life..
Just a word of caution.
Also, the radio rom doesn't need to be upgraded to the latest to be best. It seems to be the carrier that determines what is the best for them and you could find that you loose reception, have MAJOR battery drain or both...
Try to find out what radio your carrier is using and stick with it...
Cheers....
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Revrob, be careful when doing this, would REALLY suggest using the sd card method as there is less chance of little "accidents". The radio rom is the part of the Hermes MOST LIKELY TO BRICK IT... Any interruptions can corrupt the memory area making it impossible to reflash. You WILL have a PERMANENT BRICK (OS will work but no Phone functionality so technically a brick). In this case, less flashing=longer life..
Just a word of caution.
Also, the radio rom doesn't need to be upgraded to the latest to be best. It seems to be the carrier that determines what is the best for them and you could find that you loose reception, have MAJOR battery drain or both...
Try to find out what radio your carrier is using and stick with it...
Cheers....
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Excellent advice... which is why I strongly recommend always using a MicroSD card. I have seen too many people brick there phones and not have HardSPL on either. With the MicroSD card it's virtually impossible to cause a "break" in the upgrade procedure, whereas using USB/Activesynce it is all too easy to cause or have one.
Even if you do have HardSPL it is a much faster process than using the USB cable and saves you the hassle of finding out how to unbrick your phone with HardSPL installed on it.
When it happens bricking your phone is the worst feeling in the world, but thankfully it's becoming less and less common!