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methods of destruction??

how do people mess up their phones?

Interesting question. Mind telling us the reason for it?
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Any way, the easiest way is to drop it, or drop something heavy on it.
You can also get creative:
http://www.stuffonmycat.com/index.php?catid=13&blogid=1
(sorry, couldn't find the link with pics of an iPaq that's been in a microwave)
Now, if you want to go the 'high-tech' style try flashing it with a wrong ROM.
Or better yet: pull out the USB cable in the middle of ROM update. It's a nice way to brick your device.

well, the obvious reason id like to know is such that one (and furthermore others who lack thar brainsmarts) understand what not to do before it do be done, but also because explosions are cool as hell
okay so people brick their phones by flashing the wrong rom. in order for a rom to be wrong, itd be a rom based on a machine language that is different than the one my phone came with, correct?
in other words, more explicitly, my question is this: which roms are compatible with the tmo MDA (and furthermore other phones that i dont own but people flash roms with) when i unlock the cid, backup the 2.26 rom, and flash something new? are all roms that run based upon windows mobile 5 compatible with this ppc?
seems to me that being such a risky thing to do and also how prone i and every other rational human being is to **** **** up, it only makes sense to compile a database of what exactly'll **** **** up, pardon my french
and yah that cat deal is funny hahah

Well, I don't know about a database, but when you use an official update tool it warns you about the risks and consequences of flashing the ROM, and even checks for battery charge before letting you proceed.
What is the wrong ROM?
Any ROM image that wasn't specifically designed for your device. WM5 is not a generic product like desktop windows. The machine language is the same, but since ROM image also includes all the hardware drivers (which can not be installed separately from the OS) if you flash say a Wizard with a Universal ROM (not sure if the bootloader will let you, but it might) the device will become unusable.
The main concern in any ROM update is power / communication interrupt during the flash. Anything that brakes the process will likely leave the device unusable.
Another dangerous endeavor is messing with the bootloader. If you screw up the OS or radio ROM chances are you can reflash again, but once your bootloader is screwed so are you. (pardon the language)
Finally, I wouldn't recommend to anyone new to these devices to mess with custom ROMs or to flash different brands.
Reasons:
A) It voids warranty.
B) It's hard to tell if some problems are result of ROM or hardware if you don't know your device well.

yah thats another thing... is there a good registry monitor for ppc that doesnt cost like 40 bux?? i cant find any

...try this one...

i dont know what the deal is, but that file is corrupt upon extracting the file. whatever youre playin at you can go straight to hell, you wont pass go and youll never ****in win, you smelly european. hitler has pineapples for you there hah
or maybe im sposd to install that program on the ppc? lol! whatever it doesnt really matter
what i want is a registry monitor not a registry editor... im not going to waste my time memorizing the registry. what i want (and i speak transcendentally for the rest of humanity) is a registry monitor (that doesnt suck) and that is also free
now deliver you stupid mongoloids, else i **** my pants!

...sorry for messing up register monitor with editor. My english isn't as good as I would like.
(Btw file worked perfectly by opening with pocketRAR3.60)
But maybe this is useful:
http://www.iaccarino.de/silvio/stuff/MobileProfilerReadme.htm

glaukos said:
i dont know what the deal is, but that file is corrupt upon extracting the file. whatever youre playin at you can go straight to hell, you wont pass go and youll never ****in win, you smelly european. hitler has pineapples for you there hah
or maybe im sposd to install that program on the ppc? lol! whatever it doesnt really matter
what i want is a registry monitor not a registry editor... im not going to waste my time memorizing the registry. what i want (and i speak transcendentally for the rest of humanity) is a registry monitor (that doesnt suck) and that is also free
now deliver you stupid mongoloids, else i **** my pants!
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Hey! Steady on old chap. :wink:

It would be an interesting conversation between him and Artan ;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=58316

glaukos said:
i dont know what the deal is, but that file is corrupt upon extracting the file. whatever youre playin at you can go straight to hell, you wont pass go and youll never ****in win, you smelly european. hitler has pineapples for you there hah
or maybe im sposd to install that program on the ppc? lol! whatever it doesnt really matter
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what a tit :roll: The kind of yank that makes many europeans stereotype all yanks like him

glaukos said:
now deliver you stupid mongoloids, else i **** my pants!
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O and with yout tactile way of asking people for help, i don't think you'll be getting any, so go **** your pants

first of all, the word is tactful. tactile is a word for wankers, althought the entomology is the same haha.
second, in the spirit of tact i will abstain from british jokes.
third, i aint no yank. i be texan. and if you cant handle my southern drawl, then eat my asshole
finally, on a more serious note, asking for help on this forum is ridiculously taboo. there seems to be an overall theme that asking for help without a concise understanding is like masturbation in the victorian era... tis surely understandable, but the animosity towards stupid people is uncalled for
anyways, my thanks to levenum and to krinkies; that link is just what i was lookin for
my old roommate was dutch and he was super nice too, he never complained when i forgot to flush the toilet lol

my old roommate was dutch and he was super nice too, he never complained when i forgot to flush the toilet lol
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I think I'm gonna puke...

hah well i dont give a ****, as long as ya puke in a cup

hah well i dont give a ****, as long as ya puke in a cup

you gotta love reading threads like these....good for a couple o' chucks when you're too busy in the office...

Dude, someone runs my rom!!!

Dude, i swear this isn't me! Someone it appears DOES run my rom!!! Yay! lol...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MESE:IT&viewitem=&item=170117422972&rd=1&rd=1
(check the screen shots!)
Ok, it's out of my system, back to work...

Maybe that is why he is selling it?

LOL!, Thanks jerk...

Shadowmite,
I was not aware that you have your own WM6 ROM
Where is it?

etreby71 said:
Shadowmite,
I was not aware that you have your own WM6 ROM
Where is it?
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I will go out on a limb and guess it is at that link in his sig on rapidshare - called Shadowmite_ROM_v1.rar (or something like that)

Not good...
Flattering though it may be, if it were me I'd be contacting the seller and "suggesting" they not be selling it with a WM6 cooked ROM. IMO, it puts XDA in a precarious position. I found one running CUSTEL's ROM a couple weeks ago and the listing was subsequently cancelled after I notified him of it.

vp3G said:
Flattering though it may be, if it were me I'd be contacting the seller and "suggesting" they not be selling it with a WM6 cooked ROM. IMO, it puts XDA in a precarious position. I found one running CUSTEL's ROM a couple weeks ago and the listing was subsequently cancelled after I notified him of it.
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I know people who purchased phones from distributors in Europe with LVSW ROMs pre-installed

Is the ebay seller called Savings Explosion... or Saving Sex Plosion?

question: why was your ROM not advertised in it's on thread here?

Cause it's nothing special... If I ever do something I consider worthy I'll let everyone know...

And may i add knowing Shadow he might just come out with the best ROM we have seen so far. But thats just a personal hunch from my experience with his work back in the Palm days

Shadowmite said:
Cause it's nothing special... If I ever do something I consider worthy I'll let everyone know...
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well dood, you are apparently a hero wth "M4D SK|LLZ"
so we we wait with patience & interest

I'd be tempted to notify that seller that there are atleast 2 porkies on that auction, but Im sure they already know.
1. The main listing it is described as new. (later its described as lightly used)
2. Its described as still under warranty.

IF your ROM is nothing special and you don't distribute it, how come this guy has a copy?
You wouldn't be selling an 8525 on ebay now would you?
Oh yes, nice splash
Shadowmite said:
Cause it's nothing special... If I ever do something I consider worthy I'll let everyone know...
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vp3G said:
Flattering though it may be, if it were me I'd be contacting the seller and "suggesting" they not be selling it with a WM6 cooked ROM. IMO, it puts XDA in a precarious position. I found one running CUSTEL's ROM a couple weeks ago and the listing was subsequently cancelled after I notified him of it.
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i think wheather or not someone sells a modded phone running wm6 should be between the author of the rom and the seller not anyone else. there are some people out there that would just rather pay for someones time rather than taking the risk of flashing a rom themselve. further more the amount of crying some members do about noob questions being asked i dont see why anyone should care other than the seller and chef. if it was your rom and you had an issue with someone selling there phone with it on it then you should contact the seller. i have sold several phones with roms on them other than the ones i have cooked and i make sure i donate money to not only the cooks but others as well. you are not the ebay police and there are plenty of sites to links to roms for these phones xda is not the only one i h8 to burst your bubble. and by the way if you werent paying attention the roms have been removed from xda if you remember. so he didnt get it from here so no reason why M$ should be worried anymore. obviously shadowmite doesnt care so dont consern your self with things that dont consern you. im not trying to be a **** but people such as yourself are not bending over backwards to help people mod there phones so if someone is nice enough to offer it you shouldnt bother them. feel free to pm me if you would like to have a further discusion no reason to bring this back up in the forum to bring any unwanted attention.

ba ha ha ha
ba ha ha ha ha. I think this is probably the first time I laughed out loud reading this forum~! You did, after all, set that up rather well [makes volleyball gesture...]
Honestly though, with these dang threads around here asking questions like "Why is everybody around here a-holes?" and such, it's good to read light-hearted humor. I think we can always use another ROM chef around here~! It'd be cool to check out your dish as well.
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LOL!, Thanks jerk...
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I'm selling my JasJam in a few days time and it will go with i-mate's own ROM in it; everything will be as it were: IPL, SPL, OS, ExtROM and Radio. Luckily with the latest radio ROMs all traces or previous adventures with SuperCID and all can be wiped.

Elite Team ROM Project & Signing Team

Hi Guys,
So, this is the placeholder thread for a ROM we intend to produce... we want ideas... donations would be a plus, we don't actually have a Diamond.
Also, we want people familiar with building and extracting NBHs, or with a bit of savvy, who we can trust who we want to give our signing certificate to so they can sign ROMs (for yourself, and for other people)
Those interested, please post!

count me in!!!

Probably a noob question but anyways. Is this another team working on another project? I already donated to Tom's work. It doesn't really matter, I just want really nice things to happen really fast to the beloved Diamond. In fact I decided to wait for the Touch Pro but guess all this will jump start it when it finally arrives.

I'll help in any way I can...

count me in if u guys feel i can apply for the team. read my works to know more about me

Me too, know the basics, but I'm not so retarded that I can't follow instructions to do anything you need once I've got one.
Rory

Count me in!

Count me in (if you are not full). Classed as a noob here...Elsewhere less so. I read more than I write. Anything to help "put back" into the xda-dev's....Plus, just seen I live up the road from mrvanx...Might even know him LOL.

demonizator said:
Probably a noob question but anyways. Is this another team working on another project? I already donated to Tom's work. It doesn't really matter, I just want really nice things to happen really fast to the beloved Diamond. In fact I decided to wait for the Touch Pro but guess all this will jump start it when it finally arrives.
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yes, another project... since Tom Codon is just a feckless untalented twit who uses other people to release **** (yep, jocky made his (unworking) Hard-SPL, not Tom), he had success with the Nike project in getting a free device, so he fancied freeloading his way to one here. (interestingly, I was originally slated to get a device... enough money was made but it seems that disappeared into Tom's pocket)
So, I frankly don't like this crap, so we're stepping in to take over basically... this is partly why we're releasing the Hard-SPL with signing, so good Ole Tom doesn't rip us off and resume his game.
I was originally uninvolved in these politics, then people started telling me how Tom was deliberately trying to avoid working with me so he could release a Hard-SPL and keep the stuff to himself, well, I guess that ****ing backfired now.
Anyway folks, me, cmonex, bepe and walshieau plan to bang out a a suitable ROM for your delight.
So, anybody with ROMs, skills and anything to contribute, PM Me or Cmonex (or post here, we'll get around to PMing you)!

Blartiartfast said:
Count me in (if you are not full). Classed as a noob here...Elsewhere less so. I read more than I write. Anything to help "put back" into the xda-dev's....Plus, just seen I live up the road from mrvanx...Might even know him LOL.
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Hmm we might have a 'northern' team for the project lol.
i'll help if i can.

Olipro said:
yes, another project... since Tom Codon is just a feckless untalented twit who uses other people to release **** (yep, jocky made his (unworking) Hard-SPL, not Tom), he had success with the Nike project in getting a free device, so he fancied freeloading his way to one here. (interestingly, I was originally slated to get a device... enough money was made but it seems that disappeared into Tom's pocket)
So, I frankly don't like this crap, so we're stepping in to take over basically... this is partly why we're releasing the Hard-SPL with signing, so good Ole Tom doesn't rip us off and resume his game.
I was originally uninvolved in these politics, then people started telling me how Tom was deliberately trying to avoid working with me so he could release a Hard-SPL and keep the stuff to himself, well, I guess that ****ing backfired now.
Anyway folks, me, cmonex, bepe and walshieau plan to bang out a a suitable ROM for your delight.
So, anybody with ROMs, skills and anything to contribute, PM Me or Cmonex (or post here, we'll get around to PMing you)!
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So there is a reason to some signing! Never realised there were any politics here! As I've said already, I'll help with anything wanted...

Yeah, I think HTC are going to **** themselves a bit when they find this... and believe me they will, they're not particularly fast off the mark at catching this crap, but they'll find it eventually.
Next week I'll throw a big piece of **** in the bonfire by releasing a sim unlocker.

Olipro said:
Yeah, I think HTC are going to **** themselves a bit when they find this... and believe me they will, they're not particularly fast off the mark at catching this crap, but they'll find it eventually.
Next week I'll throw a big piece of **** in the bonfire by releasing an unlocker.
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Olipro - Top of HTCs most wanted...
HTCs locking down of devices seems to fail as soon as someone who knows what they are doing even touches their systems...

l3v5y said:
Olipro - Top of HTCs most wanted...
HTCs locking down of devices seems to fail as soon as someone who knows what they are doing even touches their systems...
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Since they can never lock down the OS to prevent you running your own apps (because that'd never sell) they can't stop us putting stuff in RAM, so no matter what they try, we always have an angle to load our own stuff to flash.

Olipro said:
Since they can never lock down the OS to prevent you running your own apps (because that'd never sell) they can't stop us putting stuff in RAM, so no matter what they try, we always have an angle to load our own stuff to flash.
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If they manage to completely rebuild the bootloader, you'd need to work out how to use it, which would at least slow you down...

i beleive "Hard-SPL" is a trademark of Oilpro (you know if you a hermes user)
ps: his old avatar is look more trustable, beleive me

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If they manage to completely rebuild the bootloader, you'd need to work out how to use it, which would at least slow you down...
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For sure it will take HTC longer to rebuild the bootloader completely

vua777 said:
i beleive "Hard-SPL" is a trademark of Oilpro (you know if you a hermes user)
ps: his old avatar is look more trustable, beleive me
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You called?

Job well done, everyone is applauding...
However if you delay SSPL/HSPL version to flash unsigned ROMs, someone may patch your patch.
Olipro said:
this is partly why we're releasing the Hard-SPL with signing, so good Ole Tom doesn't rip us off and resume his game.
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Now YOU are talking about a rip-off? You, who even ripped your signature?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296734
Olipro said:
I was originally uninvolved in these politics, then people started telling me how Tom was deliberately trying to avoid working with me so he could release a Hard-SPL and keep the stuff to himself, well, I guess that ****ing backfired now.
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If you're not into politics why are you making things harder by confronting everyone all the time? Don't you see you are like tom_codon yourself, "shamelessly" accepting donations and "keeping the stuff" to yourself?

Oli and cmonex do a lot for this community whether you realize it or not. It seems like every new device that hits has oli and cmonex working on tools like hard spl and unlockers to further our tweaking and hacking needs. I can see why he gets frustrated with the state of things, he works quite hard on solving these technical challenges and all he gets for it is ripped off as in the case of people selling his unlockers on ebay. He may not seem like the friendliest of guys here but even if you don't like him you should at least respect him. I tip my hat to you oli and cmonex, you put up with more crap here than I likely would.

WARNING: Do NOT get ripped off.

This is a warning to all members of xda-developers.
One member, Olipro, is charging £75 for his "secret" to "cheaply" unbrick a bricked phone.
You could do that. You could let him break the law and void your warranty. Or you could give HTC a call. That's exactly what I did this morning, and they have said my bricked HTC Touch is still under warranty, and not only will they fix it for FREE, providing they don't find out that I tried to load a cooked ROM, but they are actually sending someone out to collect it for free!
So if they don't find evidence that I tried to load a cooked ROM they'll fix it completely free, including returning it.
If they DO find that an "illegal" ROM has been loaded to it, they will charge me £50 and fix it.
How's THAT for excellent customer service? Even if they do find that I have tampered with it they will only charge £50, compared to Olipro's £75.
So let this be a warning to everyone. DO NOT PAY OLIPRO TO "FIX" YOUR BRICKED PHONE!

*BUMP* This is really important!
Should be stickied.

I find it really hard to belive Olipro would do that!
Even if he did, it is his right to charge you for a service. And because it's a free world with a free market, YOU have the option to go with one service or the other.
There's always the option of sending it back or trying to learn the unbrick procedure like Olipro did. ...not to mention the option of leaving it stock, untouched, if we are to speak about warranty issues.

seriously... Olipro has spurred many fronts in Phone customization... and for those of us without warranties and whatnot his price is kinda fair... hes not an organization that probably gets tax creds for shipping and fixing your **** ups...

As your phone is dead, you can always send it to me... You won't get anything back, nor will you get any money, but at least you'll sleep well knowing you've made a good donation to the cause...

CRCinAU said:
As your phone is dead, you can always send it to me... You won't get anything back, nor will you get any money, but at least you'll sleep well knowing you've made a good donation to the cause...
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How much to you charge for shipping?
EDIT: Leaving the thread open so oli can say his piece.

Demon X said:
This is a warning to all members of xda-developers.
One member, Olipro, is charging £75 for his "secret" to "cheaply" unbrick a bricked phone.
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Guinness costs money, it isn't free....

Demon X said:
This is a warning to all members of xda-developers.
One member, Olipro, is charging £75 for his "secret" to "cheaply" unbrick a bricked phone.
You could do that. You could let him break the law and void your warranty. Or you could give HTC a call. That's exactly what I did this morning, and they have said my bricked HTC Touch is still under warranty, and not only will they fix it for FREE, providing they don't find out that I tried to load a cooked ROM, but they are actually sending someone out to collect it for free!
So if they don't find evidence that I tried to load a cooked ROM they'll fix it completely free, including returning it.
If they DO find that an "illegal" ROM has been loaded to it, they will charge me £50 and fix it.
How's THAT for excellent customer service? Even if they do find that I have tampered with it they will only charge £50, compared to Olipro's £75.
So let this be a warning to everyone. DO NOT PAY OLIPRO TO "FIX" YOUR BRICKED PHONE!
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I see where you're coming from...but at the same time, I think Olipro charges 25 more than HTC because he'll be teaching you the secret to unlock your bricked phone...as opposed to HTC unlocking it once...
Now, if you like flashing ROMs, I'm pretty sure you're gonna end up bricking your phone one way or another, and everytime that happens, you're going to rely on Olipro's "secret" method to unlock your phone...now let's assume for the sake of the argument that you brick your phone twice in a month...that means that your total cost per fix is 12.50...not a bad deal, considering that it's kinda frustrating to find solutions online, even in a site as comprehensive and as superb as this one.
I agree with what was mentioned above...Olipro DOES have the right to present a bill for his services. After all, we're not communists...and after all, he IS sharing something that he learned by himself...you also have the right to NOT take him up on that offer. I seriously doubt that he'll take that against you anyway.
I also understand how it can be upsetting, specially after finding out that the manufacturer can fix it for free, provided that they don't find out about the ROM being touched. Nowadays, our li'l Elves and Elfins have become our constant companions...and like a good companion, I'd get seriously pissed too if my Elf/Elfin got bricked.
Sorry for the long-winded note...just my two cents. Anyway, good luck with your device =) Let us know what happens.
ps...by the way, if HTC themselves are gonna repair it, can you confirm to us (after they give you back your device) if they put in WM6.1? I know they are planning to release that on the Touch, and I was just wondering if they might install that on your device already.
Cheers!

JOKE OR DISCREDIT !!!
vivi

Firstly, how did you brick? Its pretty easy to not brick, and if you do, then you can fix it easily unless you ****ed it up by being a total idiot.
Secondly Flashing a cooked ROM or SPL or anything to your device constitutes breach of warranty, so although HTC said they'll do it for £50, they might just say **** you.
Lastly, you have no right to criticise him. He has made hacked SPL's for Many of the devices on XDA, and so loads of us are indebted to him. Plus, you made a grave mistake by opening this thread, because you are now going to feel an extremely intelligent guy raping you intellectually.
Btw, i like your thinking mrvanx
Rory

Do you blacklist service providers because there rates are more expensive than others?
Everyone has the option to shop where they want and pay what they are willing to pay for the service.

Belizibub said:
Do you blacklist service providers because there rates are more expensive than others?
Everyone has the option to shop where they want and pay what they are willing to pay for the service.
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I'd think it's more likely an idiot tax... After all, if you research what you're doing, and read things properly, then do things properly, then the chance of you bricking your device is very, very low...
If you're just too silly to read and want someone else to fix your screwups, then 75 quid is more than appropriate...

I just hope HTC does fix your phone, cuz if they don't, if I were Oli, I would let you hang in the dry with that paper weight for being an idiot

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I just hope HTC does fix your phone, cuz if they don't, if I were Oli, I would let you hang in the dry with that paper weight for being an idiot
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Esko if you'd read the original post, HTC IS going to fix his phone and they will ONLY charge him if they find evidence of tampering....
My 2 cents is: if its true that oli charges that price with a crash course in unbricking it might not be so bad.
But if he just unbricks your phone, he is charging an extortionate price! (in dutch: woekerprijs).
I find this strange because in the short time I've been here, I've seen many good posts by him! Olipro isnt someone I'd ask to unbrick my phone anyway I'd maybe ask him which posts i should read for my particular case.

Oh, I get it. It's perfectly fine to pay someone to teach you how to rob a bank and then rob a bank as many times as you want. I never knew that!
So, anyone here selling tutorials on how to rob a bank?
I was told during my conversation with HTC that custom ROMs in general are illegal - Thus this whole site isn't exactly innocent. But if no money is being made then HTC aren't going to take down the site. However, Olipro is SELLING custom ROMs. Excuse me, but where is he buying these copies of Windows Mobile and HTC's copyrighted software from in order to resell them?
As for my Touch, UPS came and collected it and it is now with HTC.

Demon X said:
Oh, I get it. It's perfectly fine to pay someone to teach you how to rob a bank and then rob a bank as many times as you want. I never knew that!
So, anyone here selling tutorials on how to rob a bank?
I was told during my conversation with HTC that custom ROMs in general are illegal - Thus this whole site isn't exactly innocent. But if no money is being made then HTC aren't going to take down the site. However, Olipro is SELLING custom ROMs. Excuse me, but where is he buying these copies of Windows Mobile and HTC's copyrighted software from in order to resell them?
As for my Touch, UPS came and collected it and it is now with HTC.
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Your logic is dumb and full of holes. Oli has done so much for the phone community and the fact that you would post on here about something like this proves that you don't think through things thoroughly.
Custom ROMS are not illegal, they are illegal if they include software that is not "free and open".
The problem you have is that you don't think for yourself. Instead of reading enough to un-brick your own device you pushed it to somebody else. Then, when HTC told you, "custom ROMS are illegal" you said, AHAH! XDA is partially at fault as well.
A better, more mature and more logical response would be to ask yourself why you didn't read enough to NOT brick your device to begin with.

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...Olipro is SELLING custom ROMs....
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If he was selling ROMs we would be VERY aware of it, as it happens he ISNT selling ROMs and I will VERY gladly stand by that statement.
I think the lesson to be learnt here is that quite clearly you didnt understand the risks of flashing your device, and obviously didnt prepare yourself for the consequences if it went wrong.
Nearly ALL veterans of this site have had a bad flash and it is one of the risks of freeing your device from the ROM on it. If you dont want to lose your device like this again, dont meddle with the software on it. Easy.

dude let me try to make it simple...maybe you'd understand that
its not illegal to put a custom rom even though it voids ur warranty
so the point im trying to make is WHY DID U COME TO THIS SITE if U DIDNT WANT TO PUT CUSTOM ROMS? is this a site where u can get free sex??? no .. the only reason any one comes here is to better their device , to make it more usable and sometimes to LEARN how to add your personal touches to it..and if something goes wrong its not any one elses fault except your own .. if you try to fix it and fail then you have to options ... either get some one from here to help you out or go the the manufacturer and try to get them to do the repair ..
if the former is the case (i suppose its same with the latter aswell) the price they would charge is upto them ....even if oli charges you 150$ for unbricking your phone its still less than the 300-800$ DEAD PAPER WEIGHT you would have cos of your stupidity !!!!
see how simple it is!! now go **** ur self!

Bit more heated than it needs to be, this..
I'm not sure there's a debate to have. Some noob people would 'brick themselves' (as we say in UK) if they bricked their phone and be frightened to touch it and make it worse. If someone's offering to do it for them for a fee, seems simple enough to me.
The 'noone need flash their phone in the first place' debate is irrelevant really. Someone just needn't use such a service if they don't want to. It's quite debrickable if you want to do it. Someone can do it for you if you're too nervous after that first ****-up.
Still not sure why a debate's sprung up.

alaiwy said:
Your logic is dumb and full of holes. Oli has done so much for the phone community and the fact that you would post on here about something like this proves that you don't think through things thoroughly.
Custom ROMS are not illegal, they are illegal if they include software that is not "free and open".
The problem you have is that you don't think for yourself. Instead of reading enough to un-brick your own device you pushed it to somebody else. Then, when HTC told you, "custom ROMS are illegal" you said, AHAH! XDA is partially at fault as well.
A better, more mature and more logical response would be to ask yourself why you didn't read enough to NOT brick your device to begin with.
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Custom ROMs are illegal. M$ just has the common sense to not take down this site and destroy what little image it has.
Olipro is perfectly justified in what he does. He doesn't owe it to you to fix your problems.

Is there still interest in a Free Tilt2/Touch pro 2 HardSPL/ unlocker?

Since this is an older phone I'm thinking of trying to come up with a free Hard SPL and an unlocker for this phone. I know there is a HardSPL made by olinex group, but it only allows one free hardspl (I have 5 lines on my plan and thinking of getting TP2s for all of them) and theya re charging for the unlocking. I would like to check if there is still an interest in such a free tool. I don't want to spend a lot of time on something that I would only benefit from very few times and no one else would be interested in using.

Perhaps bug Olipro, see if he'd be willing to do that...? I can't imagine they're making too much money off the project anymore...

ccengineer said:
Since this is an older phone I'm thinking of trying to come up with a free Hard SPL and an unlocker for this phone. I know there is a HardSPL made by olinex group, but it only allows one free hardspl (I have 5 lines on my plan and thinking of getting TP2s for all of them) and theya re charging for the unlocking. I would like to check if there is still an interest in such a free tool. I don't want to spend a lot of time on something that I would only benefit from very few times and no one else would be interested in using.
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Yes, definitely.

Yeah please do it!! Im new to all this but I know I really need the HardSPL flash software.

It doesn't look like this phone is as popular any more. Only two people interested in this. So I'm definitely not going to dedicate a lot of time to this. So I might work on it when I have time to kill but will not give it high priority. I'll keep monitoring the thread to see if this changes.

ccengineer said:
It doesn't look like this phone is as popular any more. Only two people interested in this. So I'm definitely not going to dedicate a lot of time to this. So I might work on it when I have time to kill but will not give it high priority. I'll keep monitoring the thread to see if this changes.
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If you go over to ppcgeeks.com I think you'll find it's still very popular.

ccengineer said:
It doesn't look like this phone is as popular any more. Only two people interested in this. So I'm definitely not going to dedicate a lot of time to this. So I might work on it when I have time to kill but will not give it high priority. I'll keep monitoring the thread to see if this changes.
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It would be nice, i have just setup 10 devices without HSPL using stock Roms, but i would love to be able to freely HSPL phones we are looking at setting up about another 15 at this stage, we can get a lot of these phones for $190NZ.
If i was able to HSPL them we might get another 50+
It is true that these phones are getting older now, but in saying that they are a good quality phone that preforms as expected no matter what i throw at it.

Well, count me as third one And nand is coming for the tp2, so interest will grow.

ImTuxy said:
Well, count me as third one And nand is coming for the tp2, so interest will grow.
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Coming? 'tis here...

Yes, but that thread says [testing]. Thats ok, because for me [stable] is less interesting. But my wife definitely wants [stable] and doesn't want to make an exception to that general rule when it comes to her phone

ccengineer said:
It doesn't look like this phone is as popular any more. Only two people interested in this. So I'm definitely not going to dedicate a lot of time to this. So I might work on it when I have time to kill but will not give it high priority. I'll keep monitoring the thread to see if this changes.
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One more person wants it!
After unlocking my first one, I really wanted to use it on the second one I found at a great price.
I have a great deal of respect for the folks (guy/gal) that originally cracked the boot loader, but it has been over a month since I requested to use it on a second device, and despite polite correspondence, my "ticket" is still "open".
I can understand them being busy with newer devices, but I think it is kind of sad that they have the code, and will not even respond to requests for it.
A simple "we no longer support this device" would have been appreciated, as apposed to leaving people hanging for a ticket that will never be addressed.
Even kinder, if they are not gaining revenue from it, maybe set it free!

cheftimothy said:
After unlocking my first one, I really wanted to use it on the second one I found at a great price.
I have a great deal of respect for the folks (guy/gal) that originally cracked the boot loader, but it has been over a month since I requested to use it on a second device, and despite polite correspondence, my "ticket" is still "open".
I can understand them being busy with newer devices, but I think it is kind of sad that they have the code, and will not even respond to requests for it.
A simple "we no longer support this device" would have been appreciated, as apposed to leaving people hanging for a ticket that will never be addressed.
Even kinder, if they are not gaining revenue from it, maybe set it free!
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thanks
cajun
I've just used your keyboard fix after installing kwbr's Tilt 2 rom. Thank you very much, worked beautifully. I'd thank everyone on that thread except I'm not allowed.
Took me ages to get ActiveSync to work in XP, had to install a CAB supplied on the hard spl thread to get it to work. Thanks for your efforts.

I'd like to unlock mine just for the sake of it, plan on keeping it with sprint but who knows in future? which is why I'd unlock mine lol, but since I have no real need presently I'm not tempted enough to pay for it, since the cost of the unlock is more than what phone is now worth :S

Got an ebay replacement for my TP2 and got the "commercial" error message from the Rhodium HardSPL file. Not looking to jip anyone, just want to get my replacement back to the way my old phone was. PM'd Olipro, but I know they are busy (no response yet to ticket).
So if this thread leads to another way to HSPL these things then that would make my phone very happy.
Cajunflavoredbob, could you PM me too?
Thanks.

Count me in. I still use mine as primary phone, but will upgrade soon and nice to have unlocked. Also interested on the behind the scenes as to how it all worked, read the other thread in ppc a few minutes ago and wondered if there were any interest in this. Also wonder if anyone has the stuff from the other groups I could look at, even if it would not work for me.

Yeah I bought off eBay a bad ESN Verizon one for 40$ thinking it would have worked perfectly with GSM networks here in Italy to then find out that I would have had to pay another 20$ to Olinex just to unlock it. I owned one and paid that fee in 2009 (and that's why I bought one again... I loved it so much...) and he didn't ever answer my ticket where I was asking for this favor seeing I already donated and it would be dumb anyway to pay 20$ to unlock a 40$ worth phone...

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No PMs, please.