how do people mess up their phones?
Interesting question. Mind telling us the reason for it?
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Any way, the easiest way is to drop it, or drop something heavy on it.
You can also get creative:
http://www.stuffonmycat.com/index.php?catid=13&blogid=1
(sorry, couldn't find the link with pics of an iPaq that's been in a microwave)
Now, if you want to go the 'high-tech' style try flashing it with a wrong ROM.
Or better yet: pull out the USB cable in the middle of ROM update. It's a nice way to brick your device.
well, the obvious reason id like to know is such that one (and furthermore others who lack thar brainsmarts) understand what not to do before it do be done, but also because explosions are cool as hell
okay so people brick their phones by flashing the wrong rom. in order for a rom to be wrong, itd be a rom based on a machine language that is different than the one my phone came with, correct?
in other words, more explicitly, my question is this: which roms are compatible with the tmo MDA (and furthermore other phones that i dont own but people flash roms with) when i unlock the cid, backup the 2.26 rom, and flash something new? are all roms that run based upon windows mobile 5 compatible with this ppc?
seems to me that being such a risky thing to do and also how prone i and every other rational human being is to **** **** up, it only makes sense to compile a database of what exactly'll **** **** up, pardon my french
and yah that cat deal is funny hahah
Well, I don't know about a database, but when you use an official update tool it warns you about the risks and consequences of flashing the ROM, and even checks for battery charge before letting you proceed.
What is the wrong ROM?
Any ROM image that wasn't specifically designed for your device. WM5 is not a generic product like desktop windows. The machine language is the same, but since ROM image also includes all the hardware drivers (which can not be installed separately from the OS) if you flash say a Wizard with a Universal ROM (not sure if the bootloader will let you, but it might) the device will become unusable.
The main concern in any ROM update is power / communication interrupt during the flash. Anything that brakes the process will likely leave the device unusable.
Another dangerous endeavor is messing with the bootloader. If you screw up the OS or radio ROM chances are you can reflash again, but once your bootloader is screwed so are you. (pardon the language)
Finally, I wouldn't recommend to anyone new to these devices to mess with custom ROMs or to flash different brands.
Reasons:
A) It voids warranty.
B) It's hard to tell if some problems are result of ROM or hardware if you don't know your device well.
yah thats another thing... is there a good registry monitor for ppc that doesnt cost like 40 bux?? i cant find any
...try this one...
i dont know what the deal is, but that file is corrupt upon extracting the file. whatever youre playin at you can go straight to hell, you wont pass go and youll never ****in win, you smelly european. hitler has pineapples for you there hah
or maybe im sposd to install that program on the ppc? lol! whatever it doesnt really matter
what i want is a registry monitor not a registry editor... im not going to waste my time memorizing the registry. what i want (and i speak transcendentally for the rest of humanity) is a registry monitor (that doesnt suck) and that is also free
now deliver you stupid mongoloids, else i **** my pants!
...sorry for messing up register monitor with editor. My english isn't as good as I would like.
(Btw file worked perfectly by opening with pocketRAR3.60)
But maybe this is useful:
http://www.iaccarino.de/silvio/stuff/MobileProfilerReadme.htm
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i dont know what the deal is, but that file is corrupt upon extracting the file. whatever youre playin at you can go straight to hell, you wont pass go and youll never ****in win, you smelly european. hitler has pineapples for you there hah
or maybe im sposd to install that program on the ppc? lol! whatever it doesnt really matter
what i want is a registry monitor not a registry editor... im not going to waste my time memorizing the registry. what i want (and i speak transcendentally for the rest of humanity) is a registry monitor (that doesnt suck) and that is also free
now deliver you stupid mongoloids, else i **** my pants!
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Hey! Steady on old chap. :wink:
It would be an interesting conversation between him and Artan ;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=58316
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i dont know what the deal is, but that file is corrupt upon extracting the file. whatever youre playin at you can go straight to hell, you wont pass go and youll never ****in win, you smelly european. hitler has pineapples for you there hah
or maybe im sposd to install that program on the ppc? lol! whatever it doesnt really matter
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what a tit :roll: The kind of yank that makes many europeans stereotype all yanks like him
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O and with yout tactile way of asking people for help, i don't think you'll be getting any, so go **** your pants
first of all, the word is tactful. tactile is a word for wankers, althought the entomology is the same haha.
second, in the spirit of tact i will abstain from british jokes.
third, i aint no yank. i be texan. and if you cant handle my southern drawl, then eat my asshole
finally, on a more serious note, asking for help on this forum is ridiculously taboo. there seems to be an overall theme that asking for help without a concise understanding is like masturbation in the victorian era... tis surely understandable, but the animosity towards stupid people is uncalled for
anyways, my thanks to levenum and to krinkies; that link is just what i was lookin for
my old roommate was dutch and he was super nice too, he never complained when i forgot to flush the toilet lol
my old roommate was dutch and he was super nice too, he never complained when i forgot to flush the toilet lol
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I think I'm gonna puke...
hah well i dont give a ****, as long as ya puke in a cup
hah well i dont give a ****, as long as ya puke in a cup
you gotta love reading threads like these....good for a couple o' chucks when you're too busy in the office...
Related
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=601
Brilliant source to find out about the up and coming mobile os. But my question is will we able to run this OS on the XDA IIs, Blue angel, SPV... well woteva u call them fingy ma jigs PDA fingies.
I say this because ive heard rumours that the OS makes use of more sophisticated hardware than that already available on the XDA IIs.
Oh baring in mind im reletively new to XDA development (looking to develop some groovy stuff for the lil monster using the good ol' trusty .net framework SDK)...
yay!
Erm, read the thread at the top of the page about WM2005 and the XDA2s.
Also, this chap is worth a read. It's my fave thread of all time!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22813
I have a buddy, with a WM2005 build on a blue Angel (Siemens Sx66), so Yes it will work. I have tried and tried to aquire this but he will not share this.... :-(
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I have a buddy, with a WM2005 build on a blue Angel (Siemens Sx66), so Yes it will work. I have tried and tried to aquire this but he will not share this.... :-(
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he is soooo not your friend, i say, get him sooo drunk, wait til he passes out, spike his drink if u must, then do a rom dump and draw on his face with a marker pen while you wait.
give us his address raptor and i guarentee well have the rom
Raptor, I think he's bullshitting you. If not, ask to see his phone for a second, and slip in and SD Card with the Invisible Rom dumper.
good ideas guys... he is serious though, I have seen it (with tight scrutiny)... he works for a wireless service provider that shall rename nameless. I used to work there as well so I know the consequenses he's facing ......
Still good ideas, still might have to try them.
Raptor
Do it!! I'm sure he can afford to take one for the team
Are you sure he hasn't just got the generic PPC WM2005, 'cos we really need the BA specific WM2005 (if I understand correctly)?
Are you sure he hasn't just got the generic PPC WM2005
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Educate Me, what's the difference and how would I tell?
Raptor
Don't worry about his question, Raptor, you already answered it correctly above. He just wasn't reading/paying attention.
Raptor, if you could get us a dump of this guy's rom, you would be forever famous, and we would all be very much in your debt.
Read here as to how:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22861
Simply follow the instructions, and then insert the SD Card into his device, and BAM, rom dumped, secretly and invisibly. THen, take the SD Card back out, switch it to LOCKED, and then give us the .bin file it created, and we will all have WM2005 for our Blue Angels.
See if our good freind Raptor was some how able to obtain this lovely lil .bin file (the ROM), of the wonderful WM2005, hmm wouldnt that upset Mr.Gates in sum way? (Not that im really bothered or anything, cos im all for sharing, because remember, sharing is always caring ).
But cheers for the reassurance Mr.Raptor much appreciated, gna seek means of finding me self a copy (some nerd, some where must have a copy which he will surely borrow me, willingly or unwillingly... muhahahaha)
This reminds me of a thread with Mr happy which came to no avail
Well I do not want to get anyone's hopes of, the ideas to get him drunk and "borrow" his device were merely that, funny ideas. My message was mainly to inform all that contrary to what I have heard, it is working on the BA successfully. I will not be getting this build (unofficailly) from him as I respect his position @ the company and it would put him, his position, and the company @ legal risk.
Raptor
Damn. Oh well. I would, just in retaliation for these companies not offering us updates just to steal more money from us, and then lying about it.
Honestly, I have no respect for companies that provide sub-standard support for their products.
unless there's carrier branding, they would never know where it came from.
if not do it for your country
he said it was the SX66, so who sells that?? Cingular!!
His profile says he uses Bell Mobility South.
that's the same company
I SO knew that .
Hi Guys,
So, this is the placeholder thread for a ROM we intend to produce... we want ideas... donations would be a plus, we don't actually have a Diamond.
Also, we want people familiar with building and extracting NBHs, or with a bit of savvy, who we can trust who we want to give our signing certificate to so they can sign ROMs (for yourself, and for other people)
Those interested, please post!
count me in!!!
Probably a noob question but anyways. Is this another team working on another project? I already donated to Tom's work. It doesn't really matter, I just want really nice things to happen really fast to the beloved Diamond. In fact I decided to wait for the Touch Pro but guess all this will jump start it when it finally arrives.
I'll help in any way I can...
count me in if u guys feel i can apply for the team. read my works to know more about me
Me too, know the basics, but I'm not so retarded that I can't follow instructions to do anything you need once I've got one.
Rory
Count me in!
Count me in (if you are not full). Classed as a noob here...Elsewhere less so. I read more than I write. Anything to help "put back" into the xda-dev's....Plus, just seen I live up the road from mrvanx...Might even know him LOL.
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Probably a noob question but anyways. Is this another team working on another project? I already donated to Tom's work. It doesn't really matter, I just want really nice things to happen really fast to the beloved Diamond. In fact I decided to wait for the Touch Pro but guess all this will jump start it when it finally arrives.
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yes, another project... since Tom Codon is just a feckless untalented twit who uses other people to release **** (yep, jocky made his (unworking) Hard-SPL, not Tom), he had success with the Nike project in getting a free device, so he fancied freeloading his way to one here. (interestingly, I was originally slated to get a device... enough money was made but it seems that disappeared into Tom's pocket)
So, I frankly don't like this crap, so we're stepping in to take over basically... this is partly why we're releasing the Hard-SPL with signing, so good Ole Tom doesn't rip us off and resume his game.
I was originally uninvolved in these politics, then people started telling me how Tom was deliberately trying to avoid working with me so he could release a Hard-SPL and keep the stuff to himself, well, I guess that ****ing backfired now.
Anyway folks, me, cmonex, bepe and walshieau plan to bang out a a suitable ROM for your delight.
So, anybody with ROMs, skills and anything to contribute, PM Me or Cmonex (or post here, we'll get around to PMing you)!
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Count me in (if you are not full). Classed as a noob here...Elsewhere less so. I read more than I write. Anything to help "put back" into the xda-dev's....Plus, just seen I live up the road from mrvanx...Might even know him LOL.
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Hmm we might have a 'northern' team for the project lol.
i'll help if i can.
Olipro said:
yes, another project... since Tom Codon is just a feckless untalented twit who uses other people to release **** (yep, jocky made his (unworking) Hard-SPL, not Tom), he had success with the Nike project in getting a free device, so he fancied freeloading his way to one here. (interestingly, I was originally slated to get a device... enough money was made but it seems that disappeared into Tom's pocket)
So, I frankly don't like this crap, so we're stepping in to take over basically... this is partly why we're releasing the Hard-SPL with signing, so good Ole Tom doesn't rip us off and resume his game.
I was originally uninvolved in these politics, then people started telling me how Tom was deliberately trying to avoid working with me so he could release a Hard-SPL and keep the stuff to himself, well, I guess that ****ing backfired now.
Anyway folks, me, cmonex, bepe and walshieau plan to bang out a a suitable ROM for your delight.
So, anybody with ROMs, skills and anything to contribute, PM Me or Cmonex (or post here, we'll get around to PMing you)!
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So there is a reason to some signing! Never realised there were any politics here! As I've said already, I'll help with anything wanted...
Yeah, I think HTC are going to **** themselves a bit when they find this... and believe me they will, they're not particularly fast off the mark at catching this crap, but they'll find it eventually.
Next week I'll throw a big piece of **** in the bonfire by releasing a sim unlocker.
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Yeah, I think HTC are going to **** themselves a bit when they find this... and believe me they will, they're not particularly fast off the mark at catching this crap, but they'll find it eventually.
Next week I'll throw a big piece of **** in the bonfire by releasing an unlocker.
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Olipro - Top of HTCs most wanted...
HTCs locking down of devices seems to fail as soon as someone who knows what they are doing even touches their systems...
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Olipro - Top of HTCs most wanted...
HTCs locking down of devices seems to fail as soon as someone who knows what they are doing even touches their systems...
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Since they can never lock down the OS to prevent you running your own apps (because that'd never sell) they can't stop us putting stuff in RAM, so no matter what they try, we always have an angle to load our own stuff to flash.
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Since they can never lock down the OS to prevent you running your own apps (because that'd never sell) they can't stop us putting stuff in RAM, so no matter what they try, we always have an angle to load our own stuff to flash.
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If they manage to completely rebuild the bootloader, you'd need to work out how to use it, which would at least slow you down...
i beleive "Hard-SPL" is a trademark of Oilpro (you know if you a hermes user)
ps: his old avatar is look more trustable, beleive me
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If they manage to completely rebuild the bootloader, you'd need to work out how to use it, which would at least slow you down...
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For sure it will take HTC longer to rebuild the bootloader completely
vua777 said:
i beleive "Hard-SPL" is a trademark of Oilpro (you know if you a hermes user)
ps: his old avatar is look more trustable, beleive me
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You called?
Job well done, everyone is applauding...
However if you delay SSPL/HSPL version to flash unsigned ROMs, someone may patch your patch.
Olipro said:
this is partly why we're releasing the Hard-SPL with signing, so good Ole Tom doesn't rip us off and resume his game.
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Now YOU are talking about a rip-off? You, who even ripped your signature?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296734
Olipro said:
I was originally uninvolved in these politics, then people started telling me how Tom was deliberately trying to avoid working with me so he could release a Hard-SPL and keep the stuff to himself, well, I guess that ****ing backfired now.
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If you're not into politics why are you making things harder by confronting everyone all the time? Don't you see you are like tom_codon yourself, "shamelessly" accepting donations and "keeping the stuff" to yourself?
Oli and cmonex do a lot for this community whether you realize it or not. It seems like every new device that hits has oli and cmonex working on tools like hard spl and unlockers to further our tweaking and hacking needs. I can see why he gets frustrated with the state of things, he works quite hard on solving these technical challenges and all he gets for it is ripped off as in the case of people selling his unlockers on ebay. He may not seem like the friendliest of guys here but even if you don't like him you should at least respect him. I tip my hat to you oli and cmonex, you put up with more crap here than I likely would.
This is a warning to all members of xda-developers.
One member, Olipro, is charging £75 for his "secret" to "cheaply" unbrick a bricked phone.
You could do that. You could let him break the law and void your warranty. Or you could give HTC a call. That's exactly what I did this morning, and they have said my bricked HTC Touch is still under warranty, and not only will they fix it for FREE, providing they don't find out that I tried to load a cooked ROM, but they are actually sending someone out to collect it for free!
So if they don't find evidence that I tried to load a cooked ROM they'll fix it completely free, including returning it.
If they DO find that an "illegal" ROM has been loaded to it, they will charge me £50 and fix it.
How's THAT for excellent customer service? Even if they do find that I have tampered with it they will only charge £50, compared to Olipro's £75.
So let this be a warning to everyone. DO NOT PAY OLIPRO TO "FIX" YOUR BRICKED PHONE!
*BUMP* This is really important!
Should be stickied.
I find it really hard to belive Olipro would do that!
Even if he did, it is his right to charge you for a service. And because it's a free world with a free market, YOU have the option to go with one service or the other.
There's always the option of sending it back or trying to learn the unbrick procedure like Olipro did. ...not to mention the option of leaving it stock, untouched, if we are to speak about warranty issues.
seriously... Olipro has spurred many fronts in Phone customization... and for those of us without warranties and whatnot his price is kinda fair... hes not an organization that probably gets tax creds for shipping and fixing your **** ups...
As your phone is dead, you can always send it to me... You won't get anything back, nor will you get any money, but at least you'll sleep well knowing you've made a good donation to the cause...
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As your phone is dead, you can always send it to me... You won't get anything back, nor will you get any money, but at least you'll sleep well knowing you've made a good donation to the cause...
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How much to you charge for shipping?
EDIT: Leaving the thread open so oli can say his piece.
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This is a warning to all members of xda-developers.
One member, Olipro, is charging £75 for his "secret" to "cheaply" unbrick a bricked phone.
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Guinness costs money, it isn't free....
Demon X said:
This is a warning to all members of xda-developers.
One member, Olipro, is charging £75 for his "secret" to "cheaply" unbrick a bricked phone.
You could do that. You could let him break the law and void your warranty. Or you could give HTC a call. That's exactly what I did this morning, and they have said my bricked HTC Touch is still under warranty, and not only will they fix it for FREE, providing they don't find out that I tried to load a cooked ROM, but they are actually sending someone out to collect it for free!
So if they don't find evidence that I tried to load a cooked ROM they'll fix it completely free, including returning it.
If they DO find that an "illegal" ROM has been loaded to it, they will charge me £50 and fix it.
How's THAT for excellent customer service? Even if they do find that I have tampered with it they will only charge £50, compared to Olipro's £75.
So let this be a warning to everyone. DO NOT PAY OLIPRO TO "FIX" YOUR BRICKED PHONE!
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I see where you're coming from...but at the same time, I think Olipro charges 25 more than HTC because he'll be teaching you the secret to unlock your bricked phone...as opposed to HTC unlocking it once...
Now, if you like flashing ROMs, I'm pretty sure you're gonna end up bricking your phone one way or another, and everytime that happens, you're going to rely on Olipro's "secret" method to unlock your phone...now let's assume for the sake of the argument that you brick your phone twice in a month...that means that your total cost per fix is 12.50...not a bad deal, considering that it's kinda frustrating to find solutions online, even in a site as comprehensive and as superb as this one.
I agree with what was mentioned above...Olipro DOES have the right to present a bill for his services. After all, we're not communists...and after all, he IS sharing something that he learned by himself...you also have the right to NOT take him up on that offer. I seriously doubt that he'll take that against you anyway.
I also understand how it can be upsetting, specially after finding out that the manufacturer can fix it for free, provided that they don't find out about the ROM being touched. Nowadays, our li'l Elves and Elfins have become our constant companions...and like a good companion, I'd get seriously pissed too if my Elf/Elfin got bricked.
Sorry for the long-winded note...just my two cents. Anyway, good luck with your device =) Let us know what happens.
ps...by the way, if HTC themselves are gonna repair it, can you confirm to us (after they give you back your device) if they put in WM6.1? I know they are planning to release that on the Touch, and I was just wondering if they might install that on your device already.
Cheers!
JOKE OR DISCREDIT !!!
vivi
Firstly, how did you brick? Its pretty easy to not brick, and if you do, then you can fix it easily unless you ****ed it up by being a total idiot.
Secondly Flashing a cooked ROM or SPL or anything to your device constitutes breach of warranty, so although HTC said they'll do it for £50, they might just say **** you.
Lastly, you have no right to criticise him. He has made hacked SPL's for Many of the devices on XDA, and so loads of us are indebted to him. Plus, you made a grave mistake by opening this thread, because you are now going to feel an extremely intelligent guy raping you intellectually.
Btw, i like your thinking mrvanx
Rory
Do you blacklist service providers because there rates are more expensive than others?
Everyone has the option to shop where they want and pay what they are willing to pay for the service.
Belizibub said:
Do you blacklist service providers because there rates are more expensive than others?
Everyone has the option to shop where they want and pay what they are willing to pay for the service.
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I'd think it's more likely an idiot tax... After all, if you research what you're doing, and read things properly, then do things properly, then the chance of you bricking your device is very, very low...
If you're just too silly to read and want someone else to fix your screwups, then 75 quid is more than appropriate...
I just hope HTC does fix your phone, cuz if they don't, if I were Oli, I would let you hang in the dry with that paper weight for being an idiot
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I just hope HTC does fix your phone, cuz if they don't, if I were Oli, I would let you hang in the dry with that paper weight for being an idiot
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Esko if you'd read the original post, HTC IS going to fix his phone and they will ONLY charge him if they find evidence of tampering....
My 2 cents is: if its true that oli charges that price with a crash course in unbricking it might not be so bad.
But if he just unbricks your phone, he is charging an extortionate price! (in dutch: woekerprijs).
I find this strange because in the short time I've been here, I've seen many good posts by him! Olipro isnt someone I'd ask to unbrick my phone anyway I'd maybe ask him which posts i should read for my particular case.
Oh, I get it. It's perfectly fine to pay someone to teach you how to rob a bank and then rob a bank as many times as you want. I never knew that!
So, anyone here selling tutorials on how to rob a bank?
I was told during my conversation with HTC that custom ROMs in general are illegal - Thus this whole site isn't exactly innocent. But if no money is being made then HTC aren't going to take down the site. However, Olipro is SELLING custom ROMs. Excuse me, but where is he buying these copies of Windows Mobile and HTC's copyrighted software from in order to resell them?
As for my Touch, UPS came and collected it and it is now with HTC.
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Oh, I get it. It's perfectly fine to pay someone to teach you how to rob a bank and then rob a bank as many times as you want. I never knew that!
So, anyone here selling tutorials on how to rob a bank?
I was told during my conversation with HTC that custom ROMs in general are illegal - Thus this whole site isn't exactly innocent. But if no money is being made then HTC aren't going to take down the site. However, Olipro is SELLING custom ROMs. Excuse me, but where is he buying these copies of Windows Mobile and HTC's copyrighted software from in order to resell them?
As for my Touch, UPS came and collected it and it is now with HTC.
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Your logic is dumb and full of holes. Oli has done so much for the phone community and the fact that you would post on here about something like this proves that you don't think through things thoroughly.
Custom ROMS are not illegal, they are illegal if they include software that is not "free and open".
The problem you have is that you don't think for yourself. Instead of reading enough to un-brick your own device you pushed it to somebody else. Then, when HTC told you, "custom ROMS are illegal" you said, AHAH! XDA is partially at fault as well.
A better, more mature and more logical response would be to ask yourself why you didn't read enough to NOT brick your device to begin with.
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...Olipro is SELLING custom ROMs....
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If he was selling ROMs we would be VERY aware of it, as it happens he ISNT selling ROMs and I will VERY gladly stand by that statement.
I think the lesson to be learnt here is that quite clearly you didnt understand the risks of flashing your device, and obviously didnt prepare yourself for the consequences if it went wrong.
Nearly ALL veterans of this site have had a bad flash and it is one of the risks of freeing your device from the ROM on it. If you dont want to lose your device like this again, dont meddle with the software on it. Easy.
dude let me try to make it simple...maybe you'd understand that
its not illegal to put a custom rom even though it voids ur warranty
so the point im trying to make is WHY DID U COME TO THIS SITE if U DIDNT WANT TO PUT CUSTOM ROMS? is this a site where u can get free sex??? no .. the only reason any one comes here is to better their device , to make it more usable and sometimes to LEARN how to add your personal touches to it..and if something goes wrong its not any one elses fault except your own .. if you try to fix it and fail then you have to options ... either get some one from here to help you out or go the the manufacturer and try to get them to do the repair ..
if the former is the case (i suppose its same with the latter aswell) the price they would charge is upto them ....even if oli charges you 150$ for unbricking your phone its still less than the 300-800$ DEAD PAPER WEIGHT you would have cos of your stupidity !!!!
see how simple it is!! now go **** ur self!
Bit more heated than it needs to be, this..
I'm not sure there's a debate to have. Some noob people would 'brick themselves' (as we say in UK) if they bricked their phone and be frightened to touch it and make it worse. If someone's offering to do it for them for a fee, seems simple enough to me.
The 'noone need flash their phone in the first place' debate is irrelevant really. Someone just needn't use such a service if they don't want to. It's quite debrickable if you want to do it. Someone can do it for you if you're too nervous after that first ****-up.
Still not sure why a debate's sprung up.
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Your logic is dumb and full of holes. Oli has done so much for the phone community and the fact that you would post on here about something like this proves that you don't think through things thoroughly.
Custom ROMS are not illegal, they are illegal if they include software that is not "free and open".
The problem you have is that you don't think for yourself. Instead of reading enough to un-brick your own device you pushed it to somebody else. Then, when HTC told you, "custom ROMS are illegal" you said, AHAH! XDA is partially at fault as well.
A better, more mature and more logical response would be to ask yourself why you didn't read enough to NOT brick your device to begin with.
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Custom ROMs are illegal. M$ just has the common sense to not take down this site and destroy what little image it has.
Olipro is perfectly justified in what he does. He doesn't owe it to you to fix your problems.
I've read about it everywhere but can't find an explanation of what it is or what is does. It's like everyone knows what it is so there's no need to explain it anymore lol.
grant9908 said:
I've read about it everywhere but can't find an explanation of what it is or what is does. It's like everyone knows what it is so there's no need to explain it anymore lol.
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Have you done a search yet? There are a couple of sticky threads on hardspl and rom flashing at the top of the Rhodium Rom Development sub-forum. They tell you all you need to know.
Grant: read the sticky's and wiki at the ROM forum.....
Short answer, hard spl changes the bootloader on the phone thus "unlocking" it for other ROMs. Without hard spl, you can't flash other ROMs. Read the stickys and good luck.
I have a TP2 and I have no clue what "flashing ROMs" means. what would be the benefit of doing this? If it's cool and helpful I'm all aboard, I just don;t know what it's talking about. Are we talking about Game ROMs, or apps etc. etc. etc.
ROMS, etc.
Grant,
This site is full of very technical minds, who disassemble code to build updated operating systems and tweaks for their devices. It takes a while to sort through all the acronyms that are used. I've been reading on this site for several years, and I'm still lost most of the time!
Do a lot of reading before you try ANY of this stuff; or your new, very expensive pocket pc phone (or whatever you call yours?) becomes a very expensive paper-weight!
This is a great resource site, but you have to become fluent in the language before you can converse with these people. Good luck, and happy learning!
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I have a TP2 and I have no clue what "flashing ROMs" means. what would be the benefit of doing this? If it's cool and helpful I'm all aboard, I just don;t know what it's talking about. Are we talking about Game ROMs, or apps etc. etc. etc.
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Grant, start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
Read through that about 3 times and it'll finally start making some sense.
Overall, many people are quite happy with the ROM (operating system) and programs that come with the phone and thus leave it the way it is. Others feel that it is quite to slow and bulky (uses too much memory with crapware that you don't ever use) and thus want to put a nicer looking, faster, smoother ROM on the phone. Also, this allows us to keep up to date with the newest ROMs as they are realeased.
Downsides: you've got to learn about flashing, you're ROM may be buggy since it's newer or it may be more stable if it's just a stock rom with crapware removed. Either way, to do any of this, you must first hard spl to allow the phone to take other ROMs. If you don't hard spl first, you phone will be mad at you and not wake up! Be warned that if you do this, you void your warranty (albeit there are ways to go back explained on the hard spl page) and you may become very very addicted and make posts on XDA froums on a holiday at 7 am in bed with your wife giving you dirty looks!
I've read everything 7 or more times lol and it did start to make sense =D after about 7 hours or reading last night I finally figured everything out, I think mike would be the best ROM to go with but I'm going to leave mine stock for now.
Welcome aboard Grant. I think the sentiment is pretty much same with most (except our all know elite who bring us most of these ...) of us. This site is very intimidating in the begining, but quite addictive later on. I still do not post regularly but takes some time to read almost everyday. But I can tell you one thing, whatever it takes, once you have flashed a custom ROM from these great developers here you will never go back to stock. It changes everything, stability, speed, functionality customization etc. and the most common complain, signal stregth, when you start playing with different ROM and RADIO combinations. Its fun.
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Welcome aboard Grant. I think the sentiment is pretty much same with most (except our all know elite who bring us most of these ...) of us. This site is very intimidating in the beginning, but quite addictive later on. I still do not post regularly but takes some time to read almost everyday. But I can tell you one thing, whatever it takes, once you have flashed a custom ROM from these great developers here you will never go back to stock. It changes everything, stability, speed, functionality customization etc. and the most common complain, signal strength, when you start playing with different ROM and RADIO combination. Its fun.
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Now that you say all this I have a good question for you! my TP2 is 400 speed and I want to start playing playstation games on it, would flashing it over make it run faster for this purpose? and what would be the best one to go to for this purpose (and I disabled TF3D as well )
Can you flash a ROM in powercuts?
I too have just about got what it means to Hardspl and Flash a ROM. I live in a remote part of India where there are at least 4 power cuts a day (usually when you need the pump for a shower or are downloading). What would happen in the (extremely probable) event of a power cut whilst installing a new ROM? Is it possible to download to a PC first then connect to the TP2 later. How long do you need power for? Many thanks.
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I too have just about got what it means to Hardspl and Flash a ROM. I live in a remote part of India where there are at least 4 power cuts a day (usually when you need the pump for a shower or are downloading). What would happen in the (extremely probable) event of a power cut whilst installing a new ROM? Is it possible to download to a PC first then connect to the TP2 later. How long do you need power for? Many thanks.
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Yes, you can just use your laptop to flash the rom. Make sure you have enough power on your laptop though. You wouldn't want the laptop to die in the middle of a flash. Same with your phone. It needs a minimum of 50% power. I would make sure to leave the laptop disconnected from the outlet though. You wouldn't want a surge or anything connecting with your phone.
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Now that you say all this I have a good question for you! my TP2 is 400 speed and I want to start playing playstation games on it, would flashing it over make it run faster for this purpose? and what would be the best one to go to for this purpose (and I disabled TF3D as well )
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You download the ROMs first then flash then on you device (TP2). You also download Hard-SPL and run it from you laptop, BUT it does require an internet connection as it connects at some point while in the process. It dosen't take very long, but not sure what would happen if you lost internet while you where running Hard-SPL.
Man, grant thats a challenge for me, never tried games, not a big fan. But yes if you want speed try the lean ROMs, almost all chefs have a lite version. If you want you can start paying with the kichen to have your own version. Let us know how your things fan out.
davidgee, for your question, when you are doing Hard SPL try to work with a laptop or UPS to avoid the power failure during the process, it can even brick your device. But for ROM or Radio flashing just use the SD card method, in brief copy the nbh file to card and boot to bootloader. Check the wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Rhodium
Ok, so Ive been waiting all month for my week long ban to lift and have been pretty good but this I cant ignore.....
I just saw a © attached to a generic ass script that honestly isnt even set ideally with the following stated inside:
"Dont kang my ****, bro. You need a license to use this script."
Ppwwaaaahahahah!
Who does one think they are to include that message in now generic, unoriginal modifications that have been used by everyone, for everyone?
I may not use those exact settings in that exact order, but they sure arent "your ****" and I think one's head would have to have grown too large in order to display that level of d-baggery.
Furthermore, including such a clause in a publiclically distributed OS is offensive. I "used" it by default as it was included in something I thought was worth trying out....
SOMEBODY ARREST ME!
IVE COMMITTED INFRINGEMENT!
(same individual also patented oxygen, be careful which nobles you inhale)
Bye guys! It was nice to say hi =)
-kebz
I think it was meant as a joke of some sort. If it was truly serious then I would agree it's asinine. That being said, this has already been hashed out in another thread which was closed.
So NB4 lock
Have a great day
I really dont think it was a joke, Ive been half expecting it from unsaid someone
and about it being discussed elsewhere... Ive been absent due to a loooong ban.. so .. Oops.
Had to hop on the woman's phone 'cause Ive been going through serious ROM withdrawals and the tremors were becoming unbearable.
=)
(PS. that ROM is...unfortunately...beautiful) #sighs#
Woooooow.... ibtl.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
Yeah, Im already bent over fully expecting a spanking....
But when papa punishes you and forgets to ever let you out of the closet youll eventually **** all over yourself even if you just want to eat supper with the family.....
Do I even need to say anything?